Re: Rich / all : Glutathione useless to help with mer...

[Guest guest]

Hi, CS.

I certainly don't blame you for asking a lot of questions and trying

to figure out how to get well. I'm reminded of the saying from

Hillel, the Jewish rabbi (I don't happen to be Jewish, but I can

identify with what he said): " If I'm not for myself, who is for me? "

(I guess I should add that he followed this with some more: " If I am

all for myself, who am I? " and " If not now, when? " so I guess some

balance is called for, but that doesn't diminish the need to be your

own advocate, especially when you have something like CFS. So keep

it up!) And when you talk about weeding out a multitude of useless

things, I'm reminded of Edison's statement about trying to

find something that would work as the filament material for his

light bulb. He tried a large number of things, none of which

worked. Somebody asked him if he was discouraged about that. His

reply was something to the effect that he wasn't, because he now

knew that 100 (or some such number) things wouldn't work, and that

was progress. So maybe that's the way to look at it, because he

eventually got to the carbon filament, and the oldest burning

lightbulb in the world still burns in a firehouse here in Livermore,

CA, USA, and it has a carbon filament! So I hope that will inspire

you!

Concerning the sauna, I don't have much experience with that, so

maybe others can help. Jim on this list has promoted far infrared

heaters as part of a protocol for fibromyalgia. Marcia did not have

a good experience with it. There was also a guy named Bob

who makes saunas who posted to the list in early November, but I

don't know if he's still here. He seemed to have done his homework

on the effects of sauna. I don't know how much documentation there

is about taking out heavy metals with sauna.

I think the best guide to how long to stay in the sauna is to get

out before you feel bad, and do it for a shorter time than you think

you can. I think it is easy to overdo the sauna, because it feels

good, but you can become dehydrated and also depleted of several

minerals if you do too much of it too fast.

I know that you have been struggling to find some other way to take

out mercury that doesn't reguire chelation. I'm guessing that that

is either not available to you or that you don't want to take

whatever risk might be involved with chelation. I wish I could give

you a sure thing. People have made claims for a variety of things,

and there are some products on the market that combine a few of

them. However, I don't think documented evidence is there to

support them. No guarantees, but you might look into cilantro

(Chinese parsley). There is a guy named Dr. Omura who discovered

that when he ate Vietnamese soup he was able to measure a lot of

mercury in his urine. He narrowed it down to the cilantro that was

in the soup. Here are a couple of abstracts:

Acupunct Electrother Res. 1995 Aug-Dec;20(3-4):195-229.

Role of mercury (Hg) in resistant infections & effective treatment

of Chlamydia trachomatis and Herpes family viral infections (and

potential treatment for cancer) by removing localized Hg deposits

with Chinese parsley and delivering effective antibiotics using

various drug uptake enhancement methods.

Omura Y, Beckman SL.

Heart Disease Research Foundation, New York, USA.

The authors found that antibiotics used to treat various infections

often were ineffective in the presence of abnormal localized

deposits of heavy metals like Hg and Pb, which were often observed

to co-exist with Chlamydia trachomatis, Herpes Simplex Types I & II,

Cytomegalovirus(CMV), and other micro-organisms. Our earlier

research revealed that despite rigorous treatment with antibiotics

together with various drug uptake enhancement techniques, subjects

who had been treated for Chlamydia trachomatis infections, seemingly

successfully with disappearance of their symptoms, were often

experiencing recurrences within several months after completion of

their treatment despite taking precautions against reinfection.

Careful examination of the entire body of these symptom-free

patients with the Bi-Digital O-Ring Test revealed that the Chlamydia

trachomatis had retreated to 3 approximately 5 hiding places with

localized increase in uric acid levels: 1) sublingual caruncle, 2) a

small round area in the right and/or left axillae, 3) the genitals

(Corona Glandis area of the Glans Penis at the Fossa Navicularis of

the urethra in the male, and near the orifice of the urethra in the

female), 4) Insulin-like Growth Factor positive horizontal lines,

particularly above and below the knees, 5) the maxillary, ethmoid

and frontal sinuses and the horizontal lines at the base of the

nostrils (particularly small areas where Insulin-like Growth Factors

exist). We found that all these areas contain Insulin-like Growth

Factors I & II which are reduced in the presence of infection. Even

when drug uptake of antibiotics was selectively increased in these 3

approximately 5 areas by various drug uptake enhancement methods

developed by the 1st author, still the infection persisted. In the

spring of 1995, use of Chinese parsley for successful elimination of

Hg deposits existing in various organs of the first author as the

result of the decay of radioactive Thallium 201 injected for cardiac

SPECT, was accidentally discovered after eating Vietnamese soup,

which happened to contain Chinese parsley, also called cilantro. We

also found Chinese parsley accelerates the excretion of Hg, Pb, and

A1 from the body though the urine. Our subjects were given a course

of antibiotics (Doxycycline for Chlamydia trachomatis infection) or

anti-viral agents (EPA with DHA for Herpes Family Viruses) together

with Chinese parsley. Since these vegetable/herbs were eaten, the

amount of effective substance absorbed varied and some people did

not like the taste of these relatively large amounts of either

cooked or raw parsley or its juice, but together with effective

antibiotics delivered by drug uptake enhancement methods to the

infected areas, the substances worked synergistically, rapidly

reducing the generalized symptoms and infection. The micro-organisms

retreated to the 3 approximately 5 areas listed above where, with

continued treatment, they were significantly reduced, but not

completely eliminated. Because of these problems, a pharmaceutical

company was asked to produce a Chinese parsley table containing a

controlled amount in a highly absorbable form. When 11 subjects were

treated with Doxycycline for Chlamydia trachomatis infection, or

anti-viral agents (EPA with DHA) for Herpes Family Viruses, drug

uptake enhancement methods to selectively increase delivery of the

drugs to the affected areas, and Chinese parsley tablets to remove

the heavy metal deposits, the last traces of the infections and

clinical symptoms disappeared completely. Therefore we hypothesized

that the infectious micro-organisms mentioned above, somehow utilize

the Hg or Pb to protect themselves from what would otherwise be

effective antibiotics, and/or that heavy metal deposits in some way

make antibiotics ineffective. Since the micro-organisms retreat to

areas in which Insulin-like Growth Factors I & II normally exist,

they may be utilizing them for their own growth and multiplication.

These phenomena ma

PMID: 8686573 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Acupunct Electrother Res. 1996 Apr-Jun;21(2):133-60.

Significant mercury deposits in internal organs following the

removal of dental amalgam, & development of pre-cancer on the

gingiva and the sides of the tongue and their represented organs as

a result of inadvertent exposure to strong curing light (used to

solidify synthetic dental filling material) & effective treatment: a

clinical case report, along with organ representation areas for each

tooth.

Omura Y, Shimotsuura Y, Fukuoka A, Fukuoka H, Nomoto T.

Heart Disease Research Foundation, New York, USA.

Because of the reduced effectiveness of antibiotics against bacteria

(e.g. Chlamydia trachomatis, alpha-Streptococcus, Borrelia

burgdorferi, etc.) and viruses (e.g. Herpes Family Viruses) in the

presence of mercury, as well as the fact that the 1st author has

found that mercury exists in cancer and pre-cancer cell nuclei, the

presence of dental amalgam (which contains about 50% mercury) in the

human mouth is considered to be a potential hazard for the

individual's health. In order to solve this problem, 3 amalgam

fillings were removed from the teeth of the subject of this case

study. In order to fill the newly created empty spaces in the teeth

where the amalgams had formerly existed, a synthetic dental-filling

substance was introduced and to solidify the synthetic substance,

curing light (wavelength range reportedly between 400-520 nm) was

radiated onto the substance in order to accelerate the solidifying

process by photo-polymerization. In spite of considerable care not

to inhale mercury vapor or swallow minute particles of dental

amalgam during the process of removing it by drilling, mercury

entered the body of the subject. Precautions such as the use of a

rubber dam and strong air suction, as well as frequent water

suctioning and washing of the mouth were insufficient. Significant

deposits of mercury, previously non-existent, were found in the

lungs, kidneys, endocrine organs, liver, and heart with abnormal low-

voltage ECGs (similar to those recorded 1-3 weeks after i.v.

injection of radioisotope Thallium-201 for Cardiac SPECT) in all the

limb leads and V1 (but almost normal ECGs in the precordial leads V2-

V6) the day after the procedures were performed. Enhanced mercury

evaporation by increased temperature and microscopic amalgam

particles created by drilling may have contributed to mercury

entering the lungs and G.I. system and then the blood circulation,

creating abnormal deposits of mercury in the organs named above.

Such mercury contamination may then contribute to intractable

infections or pre-cancer. However, these mercury deposits, which

commonly occur in such cases, were successfully eliminated by the

oral intake of 100 mg tablet of Chinese parsley (Cilantro) 4 times a

day (for average weight adults) with a number of drug-uptake

enhancement methods developed by the 1st author, including different

stimulation methods on the accurate organ representation areas of

the hands (which have been mapped using the Bi-Digital O-Ring Test),

without injections of chelating agents. Ingestion of Chinese

parsley, accompanied by drug-uptake enhancement methods, was

initiated before the amalgam removal procedure and continued for

about 2 to 3 weeks afterwards, and ECGs became almost normal. During

the use of strong bluish curing light to create a photo-

polymerization reaction to solidify the synthetic filling material,

the adjacent gingiva and the side of the tongue were inadvertently

exposed. This exposure to the strong bluish light was found to

produce pre-cancerous conditions in the gingiva, the exposed areas

of the tongue, as well as in the corresponding organs represented on

those areas of the tongue, and abnormally increased enzyme levels in

the liver. These abnormalities were also successfully reversed by

the oral intake of a mixture of EPA with DHA and Chinese parsley,

augmented by one of the non-invasive drug-uptake enhancement methods

previously described by the 1st author, repeated 4 times each day

for 2 weeks.

PMID: 8914687 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Rich

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> " raising glutathione will not take out

> mercury that is already bound to the tissues "

>

> Hi

>

> Are there any natural alternatives to chelation to help get

mercury out of

> the tissues

> that you are aware of ?

>

> Will sauna sessions help with getting mercury out of tissues?

when you say

> tissues - do you mean mercury ound to protein within brain ,

heart , etc...

>

> How long on average is it best to stay in a sauna?

>

> Regards

> CS

>

> ps sorry about all the questions - I have one thing firmly fixed

in my mind

> and that is to beat this thing and im half way there and have

weeded a

> multitude of useless supps in the process!

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks.

Im actually doing very well without going down the chelation route.

regards

CS