Re: Further question for Rich-intestinal mucosa

[Guest guest]

Hi, Pam.

These things are new to me, too. Thanks for posting them! The

thyroid certainly plays a lot of important roles. I am continually

amazed by all the interactions in the human body. As I mentioned in

my earlier post, I still believe that in many cases, glutathione

depletion is the cause for the thyroid problems in CFS, as it is the

cause for so many other aspects of the pathogenesis and

pathophysiology. I think that bringing glutathione back up can

restore the thyroid to proper operation if the autoimmune damage

process has not gone too far. This seems to be the experience of

and of CS on this list.

Rich

>

> Hi Rich

>

> One other thing that stuck me from the seminar by Dr Mouton was

about

> the role of betacarotene and Vitamin A. He stated that if

hypothyroid

> one will have too high betacarotene and the signs will be

> yellow/orange palms and feet but Vitamin A will be low and this

causes

> damage to all the mucosa in the body but especially the intestinal

> mucosa will be damaged and this will affect the workings of the

immune

> system. Again we know that PWCFS have massive gut issues and I

wonder

> if you had thought about this role of the thyroid as contributing

to

> these problems?

>

> Obviously he stressed the need for extra vitamin A but not in the

form

> of betacarotene but basically the only way to deal with the

intestinal

> problems would be to get the thyroid working properly. I found it

> especially interesting because I used to have very bad gut issues

and

> they have improved a lot, presumably as I have had some

> thyroid/adrenal treatment but I still have the soles of my feet

that

> are on the orange side and I know my thyroid isn't optimised yet.

>

> The other very obvious problem of when the thyroid isn't working

> properly then one can have a very compromised immune sytem again

> another problem with PWCFS have and for me it has been on of my

main

> problems for many years.

>

> Thanks again,

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, Pam.

>

> These things are new to me, too. Thanks for posting them! The

> thyroid certainly plays a lot of important roles. I am

continually

> amazed by all the interactions in the human body. As I mentioned

in

> my earlier post, I still believe that in many cases, glutathione

> depletion is the cause for the thyroid problems in CFS, as it is

the

> cause for so many other aspects of the pathogenesis and

> pathophysiology. I think that bringing glutathione back up can

> restore the thyroid to proper operation if the autoimmune damage

> process has not gone too far. This seems to be the experience of

> and of CS on this list.

>

> Rich

Rixch & all,

It is Dr. Cheney's theory* that if there is no blood flow to the

skin that this will cause dysregualtion of the thyroid because the

thyroid uses the skin to thermoregulate.

No blood flow to the skin causes toxins to build up and you get MCS

also.

*Ref: April 2005 newsletter at www.virtualhometown.com/dfwcfids

Al

[Guest guest]

Another orange skinned alien reports in.

I have had very similar problems for years.

Orange toned skin, esp. hands, and face (never looked

at the soles of my feet ). Lots of gut problems,

and clinical signs of hypothyroidism.

Dr. Cheney's theory of reduced microcirculation could

apply here. However, I did not test out as having heart problems.

Dr. Cheney told me that some of his patients, including me,

are " other than " .

So, there are other causes of this orange skin/ gut thing,

than the diastolic cardiomyopathy/microcirculation.

Anti-histamines helped my gut problems quite a bit in

the last few months. I gained 20 much needed pounds on them,

felt a lot better, and had my gut calm down a bit.

Lately, I have added Enzymedica Digest Gold Enzymes. My

digestion and gut are much better with these, and I have

lost some of the orange hue to my skin. Others have even

commented on my improved skin tone.

Zippy

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<doggy532001@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rich

>

> One other thing that stuck me from the seminar by Dr Mouton was

about

> the role of betacarotene and Vitamin A. He stated that if

hypothyroid

> one will have too high betacarotene and the signs will be

> yellow/orange palms and feet but Vitamin A will be low and this

causes

> damage to all the mucosa in the body but especially the intestinal

> mucosa will be damaged and this will affect the workings of the

immune

> system. Again we know that PWCFS have massive gut issues and I

wonder

> if you had thought about this role of the thyroid as contributing

to

> these problems?

>

> Obviously he stressed the need for extra vitamin A but not in the

form

> of betacarotene but basically the only way to deal with the

intestinal

> problems would be to get the thyroid working properly. I found it

> especially interesting because I used to have very bad gut issues

and

> they have improved a lot, presumably as I have had some

> thyroid/adrenal treatment but I still have the soles of my feet

that

> are on the orange side and I know my thyroid isn't optimised yet.

>

> The other very obvious problem of when the thyroid isn't working

> properly then one can have a very compromised immune sytem again

> another problem with PWCFS have and for me it has been on of my

main

> problems for many years.

>

> Thanks again,

>

> Pam

>