Re: Whey Protein (Cystine) and Yeast/Janet

[Guest guest]

" Yes I was looking at Renew Pro when I read this. The Whey Protein I have

now also has lactorferrin in it, 36 mg. This is the worst yeast infection I

have every had. Something is feeding it! I realize how important it is to build

glutathione. What are other options??? "

*****When you start to boost glutathione what you may find is that alot of

latent pathogens suddenly start to flare up - as they tend to hide amongst

the toxins. When I was at this stage I started to add supplements to kill of

the pathogens. ie lactoferrin for 4 weeks then coconut oil for 4 weeks and

then manuka honey.

Regards

CS

[Guest guest]

Hi, Janet.

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote:

>

> HI CS/ All

>

> I was just reseaching Renew Pro (Whey Protein) on the net. One thing they

list is an intolerance is CANDIDA!!! I am going to stop the Whey Protien

Isolate I take and see how I respond. If I can't take that, where do I go from

there???

>

> Thank you all for your help,

>

> Janet

> in San Diego

***Are you sure you looked up RenewPro specifically? It's not like all whey

proteins. It has lactoferrin in it to counter act candida build up. It actually

can help quell it, just the opposite of the conclusion you seem to be drawing.

[Guest guest]

HI ,

Yes I was looking at Renew Pro when I read this. The Whey Protein I have now

also has lactorferrin in it, 36 mg. This is the worst yeast infection I have

every had. Something is feeding it! I realize how important it is to build

glutathione. What are other options???

Thank you for your help,

Janet

in San Diego

davidhall2020 <davidhall@...> wrote:

Hi, Janet.

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote:

>

> HI CS/ All

>

> I was just reseaching Renew Pro (Whey Protein) on the net. One thing they

list is an intolerance is CANDIDA!!! I am going to stop the Whey Protien

Isolate I take and see how I respond. If I can't take that, where do I go from

there???

>

> Thank you all for your help,

>

> Janet

> in San Diego

***Are you sure you looked up RenewPro specifically? It's not like all whey

proteins. It has lactoferrin in it to counter act candida build up. It actually

can help quell it, just the opposite of the conclusion you seem to be drawing.

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

On May 30, 2006, at 10:05 PM, Janet s wrote:

> HI ,

>

> Yes I was looking at Renew Pro when I read this. The Whey Protein

> I have now also has lactorferrin in it, 36 mg. This is the worst

> yeast infection I have every had. Something is feeding it! I

> realize how important it is to build glutathione. What are other

> options???

Other options:

-- Liposomal Glutathione (Essential Wellness makes it). It's not

nearly as cheap as RenewPro, but you probably get much better

absorption. Tastes like hell. Makes me pass wind that smells of fire

and brimstone, like Hades. But it does a good job of keeping the

levels up.

-- Injections. The folks who sell the liposomal also sell an IV or IM-

ready glutathione that doctors can prescribe, and compounding

pharmacists can make up into shots.

-- Talk to Rich about getting some genetic testing done, and using a

course of supplements to open your methylation channels. The most

expensive option, but also the one that's most likely to create real

long-term benefit.

All things considered, RenewPro is cheapest and easiest -- if you can

make it work.

BTW, I'm working with my local doctor and compounding pharmacy to re-

create the B12/glutathione/AMP injections that I've been ordering

from FFC for the past nine months. (The cost and hassle of getting

them overnighted to Canada from LA every six weeks has just been

insane.) These shots were basically what made grad school happen --

pure effing magic that gave me back my brain and my life.

It's been an interesting reverse-engineering process, but I think

we're nearing the end of it. When I know for sure I've gotten it

right, I'll write up a post talking about what's in it, and discuss

strategies for getting other doctors on board for those who want to

try this, too.

Sara

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara,

I am waiting on my genetic testing now. Sent that in on 5/15. I know the Renew

Pro is the cheapest and easiest way! Dog gone it! I hope I can make it work. I

can get my doc to do B-12, glutathione. Is AMP, the same as ATP??? I wish they

could make that into a subligual. Are you working in that direction??? I will be

real interested to see how you do with this.

Thank you so much for your help.

Janet

in San Diego

Mercuria <mercuria@...> wrote:

On May 30, 2006, at 10:05 PM, Janet s wrote:

> HI ,

>

> Yes I was looking at Renew Pro when I read this. The Whey Protein

> I have now also has lactorferrin in it, 36 mg. This is the worst

> yeast infection I have every had. Something is feeding it! I

> realize how important it is to build glutathione. What are other

> options???

Other options:

-- Liposomal Glutathione (Essential Wellness makes it). It's not

nearly as cheap as RenewPro, but you probably get much better

absorption. Tastes like hell. Makes me pass wind that smells of fire

and brimstone, like Hades. But it does a good job of keeping the

levels up.

-- Injections. The folks who sell the liposomal also sell an IV or IM-

ready glutathione that doctors can prescribe, and compounding

pharmacists can make up into shots.

-- Talk to Rich about getting some genetic testing done, and using a

course of supplements to open your methylation channels. The most

expensive option, but also the one that's most likely to create real

long-term benefit.

All things considered, RenewPro is cheapest and easiest -- if you can

make it work.

BTW, I'm working with my local doctor and compounding pharmacy to re-

create the B12/glutathione/AMP injections that I've been ordering

from FFC for the past nine months. (The cost and hassle of getting

them overnighted to Canada from LA every six weeks has just been

insane.) These shots were basically what made grad school happen --

pure effing magic that gave me back my brain and my life.

It's been an interesting reverse-engineering process, but I think

we're nearing the end of it. When I know for sure I've gotten it

right, I'll write up a post talking about what's in it, and discuss

strategies for getting other doctors on board for those who want to

try this, too.

Sara

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Janet.

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote:

>

> HI ,

>

> Yes I was looking at Renew Pro when I read this. The Whey Protein I have now

also has lactorferrin in it, 36 mg. This is the worst yeast infection I have

every had. Something is feeding it! I realize how important it is to build

glutathione. What are other options???

***Well, it seems you may have had high blood cysteine levels well before NAC,

nondenatured whey use or any treatments. Cysteine is what feeds the yeast.

***What is happening in many PWCs who test for high plasma cysteine? Mercury

toxicity!

***Problems with methylation tie in with this just as well so you're on the

right track in getting the Amy Yasko, Ph.D. genomic panels done, etc..

Also get Garden of Life's Fungal Defense in a bottle. I think needs.com has it

as well as local health food stores in San Diego. This will dramatically reduce

candida.

***Liposomal glutathione could help bypass the gut microflora/yeast, but it is

expensive and using the Fungal Defense for a few weeks before resuming a

nondenatured whey like The True Whey or RenewPro might be the quickest route to

relief while allowing to move ahead in building glutathione. Adding additional

lactoferrin to the whey use could help your cause as well.

***It's a solveble problem, but ultimately the worst thing you have to deal with

sounds like mercury to me.

Mercury chelation therapy, after these others things are moving along smoothly,

may be your final piece to your CFS puzzle.

[Guest guest]

On May 30, 2006, at 11:31 PM, Janet s wrote:

> Hi Sara,

>

> I am waiting on my genetic testing now. Sent that in on 5/15. I

> know the Renew Pro is the cheapest and easiest way! Dog gone it! I

> hope I can make it work. I can get my doc to do B-12, glutathione.

> Is AMP, the same as ATP??? I wish they could make that into a

> subligual. Are you working in that direction??? I will be real

> interested to see how you do with this.

Not the same, but close enough. There are doctors using both.

Sara

[Guest guest]

" So with taking the Fungal Defense and the oregano, should I at the same

time, take probotics?? In other words, do I kill it first, then come in with

building the good bacteria or can I do both at once. (Kill & restore.) "

I would would try working up your supps one by one until you notice a

reduced benefit in each and then switch to the next and then start adding

probiotics after the course.

Regards

Cs

[Guest guest]

Hi, Janet.

Janet s <jgstev716@...> wrote:

>

> HI ,

>

> So I have ordered Lactoferrin, going to get some oregano and the Fungal

Defense today! I have also ordered the GSH glutathione.

***Oregeno is in the Garden of Life Fungal Defense formula, no need to get

seperate products. I don't know what you mean by GSH glutatione as GSH IS

glutathione.

So with taking the Fungal Defense and the oregano, should I at the same time,

take probotics?? In other words, do I kill it first, then come in with building

the good bacteria or can I do both at once. (Kill & restore.)

***No. No need to take probiotics after this product in my experience.

Side effects of long term rescription antibiotic use is usually what people

counter with probiotics.

***I suppose taking a probiotic when your done with the the fungal defense

formula and your diflucan wouldn't hurt, but just make sure to get rid of most

of the candida first and foremost.

***Getting back to building glutathione asap and then ultimately chelation of

mercury I sense are the key treatment issues for you. The Amy Yasko testing and

suggestions will help with methylation, if in fact you have a with this system.