Re: WHEY PROTEIN...Immunity kicking in?

[Guest guest]

Hi

Lets just say that it took me around a month or two to really be able to

tolerate whey protein.

I dont think it was the whey that is the problem - I think it is the very

low glutathione levels and toxins being stirred up when Whey is taken !!

Regards

CS

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In a message dated 19/06/2006 19:33:43 GMT Standard Time,

edyrayfield@... writes:

Can I ask you what your symptoms were from the whey? Thanks, Edy

*********I thought my head was going to explode with what was being stirred

up!!!

Regards

CS

[Guest guest]

Can I ask you what your symptoms were from the whey? Thanks, Edy

bhammanuk@... wrote: Hi

Lets just say that it took me around a month or two to really be able to

tolerate whey protein.

I dont think it was the whey that is the problem - I think it is the very

low glutathione levels and toxins being stirred up when Whey is taken !!

Regards

CS

[Guest guest]

Dan,

Was this the 1st dose of Immunopro for you?

When I began Immunopro a few years ago, I definitely went down with flu-like

body symptoms the next day...tho not sure about fever.

I was unable or unwilling to remain in that state. I also had followed all of

the 1st patients on it for a few months. (Dr. Cheney's trial and others). So

I'd seen people begin or back way down to miniscule dose, and decided to do

that.

Someone even kindly sent me these teensy, teensy, little spoons in case I was

that sensitive, as some were.

I settled on 1/8th of a teaspoon daily and remained there for awhile. Over a

long period of a time, I inched up slowly, in very small increments.

Even so, I experienced some energy and loss of swelling in face pretty quickly.

I would realize I'd been at a level for awhile, and take it up just a bit, maybe

by 8ths. Intuition, I guess you'd say.

Eventually, (over a year), I had arrived at 2 scoops! Yes, that was very cool.

That is where I have remained. I'm not so good at all the hours of empty stomach

for things I take, so I've only done it in A.M., with rare exception.

I'd love to be disciplined enough to do 2x a day, but oh well...

I'm very happy with how I did it. There'd been alot of discussion about

dumping/moving toxins too fast (with anything), so *no way* was I going to risk

that.

In earlier days there were also more accounts of fasting, for instance, and

people landing in hospitals and long relapses. Nope, that was not for me!

I am so grateful for the patients who shared their daily progress, and the time

I took to observe it, so I'd know how to decide.

Everyone's different, but that's my story in case it helps.

BTW, a couple of months ago, I began Essential Glutathione, taking a teaspoon 2

days in a row. I had the same symptoms and really tired, but kind of in a good

way. In this case, if I'd had the luxury to sleep through it, I would have. But

i do not, so I take it about twice a week, so far, and feel pretty good about

it. I am " partially " basing this on economy, too, at the moment, cause of other

things I'm doing/want to do.

If I remember correctly?, it's more severe patients who have best improvement on

Immunopro.

Katrina

>

> Hello all,

>

> I usually never get a cold or the flu, but after two scoops of whey protein

yesterday, I woke

> up with the chills about 4am, and worsening pain of course, but also a decent

temperature

> -- 100.9. (My body temp is usually around 97.4)

>

> So -- I'm wondering, even though I hurt a lot more, etc., is this a good thing

-- a sign my

> immune system is kicking in -- or TRYING too?

>

> ouch...

>

> Anyone else experience this reaction?

>

>

> Dan

>

[Guest guest]

That may be true. Did you stop taking it for a bit, then slowly ramp up again?

Did you

take anything like activated charcoal or pectin to adsorb the toxins? My fever

is 102 now,

so I caved and took a tylenol...just hurt all over...especially shoulders and

neck.

d.

>

> Hi

>

> Lets just say that it took me around a month or two to really be able to

> tolerate whey protein.

> I dont think it was the whey that is the problem - I think it is the very

> low glutathione levels and toxins being stirred up when Whey is taken !!

>

> Regards

> CS

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hello all,

> >

> > I usually never get a cold or the flu, but after two scoops of whey protein

yesterday, I

woke

> > up with the chills about 4am, and worsening pain of course, but also a

decent

temperature

> > -- 100.9. (My body temp is usually around 97.4)

> >

> > So -- I'm wondering, even though I hurt a lot more, etc., is this a good

thing -- a sign

my

> > immune system is kicking in -- or TRYING too?

> >

> > ouch...

> >

> > Anyone else experience this reaction?

> >

> >

> > Dan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This isn't the first dose, but I haven't taken it for awhile, and never a

" heaping " scoop --

twice yesterday. So I guess I should back down, or stop for awhile?

Thanks for your reply...

d.

> >

> > Hello all,

> >

> > I usually never get a cold or the flu, but after two scoops of whey protein

yesterday, I

woke

> > up with the chills about 4am, and worsening pain of course, but also a

decent

temperature

> > -- 100.9. (My body temp is usually around 97.4)

> >

> > So -- I'm wondering, even though I hurt a lot more, etc., is this a good

thing -- a sign

my

> > immune system is kicking in -- or TRYING too?

> >

> > ouch...

> >

> > Anyone else experience this reaction?

> >

> >

> > Dan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Almost everyone I talk to starts or re-starts whey w/ a very small

dose. I remember someone in our support group who is a Cheney

patient who started w/ 1/2 teaspoon per day, and they worked up from

there. I also recall that initially she tried the recommended dose

and had some real bad reactions.

Mike C

>

> This isn't the first dose, but I haven't taken it for awhile, and

never a " heaping " scoop --

> twice yesterday. So I guess I should back down, or stop for

awhile?

>

> Thanks for your reply...

>

> d.