Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 > > Does anyone know if taking these 2 at the sametime is ok or is it > counter productive? > I have been taking the Albenzadol for almost a month and still having > symptoms. I have been taking iver on and off for 8 months and this > last month 1/wk. > Any input would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Cyndi > Cyndi, I don't know if it's considered counter-productive, but I have been taking albendazole daily also for about a month with Iver at 7 day intervals. My activity and reactions amplified at first and now seem to be improving? It seems like every symptom I have ever had up to a point is what I seem to be experiencing in reverse. Currently I have a rash on the whole of my upper torso. With the combination of topicals, cleanses, diet change, and supplements, their hiding places are showing up. I can't believe my skin didn't show this at all, its no wonder I couldn't seem to get better. What are you experiencing with your combo? Anything similar? Do you feel like you get worse and then better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Hi, I have read that it is good to rotate those 2...so you would not take them at the same time--but take 1 for a while (a month) and then stop that one and take the other. I am also wondering about my stuff I am taking all at the same time ....it is hard to fit it all in 1 day: albendazole 2xday itraconazole 1xday opaline 2xday MMS 2xday milk thistle what do you think about me taking all this at the same time ?(not same time of day) It seems like so much that it could hurt my already hurt liver! Sometimes I feel like it is helping and then some nights are just awful!!! Oh--get this --I got fired from my waitressing job! We got a new manager that disliked me from the start--then I started making mistakes which i blame on my depression and brain fog from my Morgellons. I didnt tell them about my sickness. It is the first time i have been fired from a job!!!! And I am 40 yrs old and have had lots of jobs....it is so sad and disturbing!! Anyone have any stories to help me cope with my getting fired? It feels so weird that someone actually thought I was that bad at my job. I have had so many customers at that restaurant tell me that I was the best waitress they ever had.... Sorry--I guess I needed to vent... LL --- fritolay66 <fritolay66@...> wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know if taking these 2 at the sametime > is ok or is it > > counter productive? > > I have been taking the Albenzadol for almost a > month and still having > > symptoms. I have been taking iver on and off for > 8 months and this > > last month 1/wk. > > Any input would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Cyndi > > > > > Cyndi, I don't know if it's considered > counter-productive, but I have > been taking albendazole daily also for about a month > with Iver at 7 day > intervals. My activity and reactions amplified at > first and now seem > to be improving? It seems like every symptom I have > ever had up to a > point is what I seem to be experiencing in reverse. > Currently I have a > rash on the whole of my upper torso. With the > combination of topicals, > cleanses, diet change, and supplements, their hiding > places are showing > up. I can't believe my skin didn't show this at > all, its no wonder I > couldn't seem to get better. What are you > experiencing with your > combo? Anything similar? Do you feel like you get > worse and then > better? > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Re: Re: Iver & Albenzadol Hi LL, Lucy, you wouldn't believe all the stuff I ingest everyday twice a day.....lol The milk thistle I wouldn't worry about as it strengthens and protects your liver. I will try to list: ReNew Life CandiGone Cleanse ReNew Life Heavy Metal Detox Cleanse Natures Way Thysilian Mineral Intestinal Cleanse ReNew Life ParaGone Cleanse I started cleansing some months ago and have continued. I started with Thysilian and ParaGone. I rotate the CandiGone, Heavy Metal, and ParaGone. I also do combination cleanses in which currently I am doing the CandiGone and Heavy Metal. I had planned on doing some harder core cleanses in the very near future. That being Dr. Hulda s Parasite cleanse and Colonix Intestinal Cleanse. I believe I have Morgellons. My mite lesions match any Morgellons pic's I have seen. Clearly under microscope, I have seen mites as well as in my environment. The mite connection is multifaceted. 1) Mite infestation 2) Internal parasite infection 3) Bacterial components whether introduced by the mites or as a result of the mites. 4) Systemic Fungal Infection, most have this due to antibiotics, exposure to meats in which contain these, etc., etc. 5) Heavy Metal or Insecticide Toxicity. 6) Diet in which feeds these conditions. We have all talked about pheromones. I believe what keeps them on one person and not the next has to do with yeast (fungus). Decomposition. It is an attractant and it is their preferred food source. In my case, my fungal skin infection is due to and a result of a systemic yeast overload. When one experiences a systemic yeast infection, it can account for a lot of troubles and is incredibly hard for the medical field to identify. Heavy metals or toxic substances are attracted to and incorporated into fungal colonies. These colonies can invade anywhere in the body including the brain and blood. Perfect food sources for mites of any kind and whatever they bring with them. These types of infections or toxicities take a long time to effect a cure. Diets will effect your outcome and the length of time in treating. Feed the yeast, breed the yeast, attract more heavy metals and toxic substances, more food for the mites, a never ending cycle. This is a very brief summation of what I have found and why I do what I do. Daily, I take: 2-4 tbsps of Extra Virgin Coconut Oil..........kills yeast, internal parasites When not doing the Thysialin I take Milk Thistle twice a day. 3-5,000 mgs of Ester C 1000 mg's Calcium Caltrate w/ 600 IU's of Vitamin D 50-100 mg's of Zinc Vitamin B Complex once per day Vitamin B1 once per day Super Omega Complex once per day Carnivora twice per day Alfalfa twice per day Opaline Dry Oxy 2-3 times per day @ two capsules each dose 1-2 tblsps of Organic High Lignan Flax Oil intermittently Brown Rice Protein atleast once per day, not eating much meat lately. Jarrow-Jarro-dophilus twice per day Not to mention what I am doing topically. So, keep hammering it away little by little. I thought knowing how much I am doing might help you in evaluating what you are doing. Don't get depressed, there is only so much one can do everyday, just do it and in time we will win. I am really very sorry you lost your job. I lost mine too a while back. It was incredibly demeaning, but I now believe I am in a better place, and I believe you will be too. Don't give up. I was so scared to start working again but I had to and its been okay so far. It will be allright, it just sucks going through it. You will be able to look back one day and it is exactly that in which keeps me going. You will be in a better place. I can't take most multivitamin complexes because they contain nickel of which I am very allergic to. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 The idea of alternating them makes sense, especially since these bugs seem to get resistent so quickly. It's hard to know if taking all those things on the same day is bad for you. My doctor said that there is no information available for long term ivermectin use, all the literature discusses using one or two doses for scabies, worms, or lice etc. So, it seems we're experimenting and taking a risk just by taking the stuff like we do. I'm so sorry you got fired! That's horrible. I know I keep wondering what my future holds. As a student, I have a terrible time concentrating on my assignments and all the rituals involved with the mites are exhausting. I see a lot of homeless people around my school and sometimes I wonder if I'll be one of them someday because of these mites. I hope you can find work quickly so you can also take care of yourself! I'm also looking for work for the summer. I keep wondering about jobs where I would have to sit or stand in the same place--it is not good with mites, I don't think. What I've been taking off and on for some months: Ivermectin once a week Cayenne Pepper capsules 3X day Garlic 3X day B1 (Thiamin) 100mg 3X day Omega 3 3X day Vitamin C 500mg 1X day And sometimes B6 and B12 1X day Now starting with OxyCaps which I think is the same as Opamine, its an oxygen supplement. > > > > > > Does anyone know if taking these 2 at the sametime > > is ok or is it > > > counter productive? > > > I have been taking the Albenzadol for almost a > > month and still having > > > symptoms. I have been taking iver on and off for > > 8 months and this > > > last month 1/wk. > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated. > > > Thanks, > > > Cyndi > > > > > > > > > Cyndi, I don't know if it's considered > > counter-productive, but I have > > been taking albendazole daily also for about a month > > with Iver at 7 day > > intervals. My activity and reactions amplified at > > first and now seem > > to be improving? It seems like every symptom I have > > ever had up to a > > point is what I seem to be experiencing in reverse. > > Currently I have a > > rash on the whole of my upper torso. With the > > combination of topicals, > > cleanses, diet change, and supplements, their hiding > > places are showing > > up. I can't believe my skin didn't show this at > > all, its no wonder I > > couldn't seem to get better. What are you > > experiencing with your > > combo? Anything similar? Do you feel like you get > > worse and then > > better? > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Hi Lovitar, I also get those scarry thoughts about becoming homeless because of this. I know I could always live with my mom...but i am too worried about giving her this...I get scared when I just go visit her. Waitressing jobs are good becuase you dont have to sit in one place... Yes -- I have read that they build an immunity to the meds--so it is good to alternate them. The mean woman that fired me doesnt know or care what I am going thru....it seems so unfair that she gets to be healthy when she is making so many people miserable (all the waitresses hate her and are scared of her). LL --- loviatar3 <loviatar3@...> wrote: > The idea of alternating them makes sense, especially > since these bugs > seem to get resistent so quickly. > > It's hard to know if taking all those things on the > same day is bad > for you. My doctor said that there is no > information available for > long term ivermectin use, all the literature > discusses using one or > two doses for scabies, worms, or lice etc. So, it > seems we're > experimenting and taking a risk just by taking the > stuff like we do. > > I'm so sorry you got fired! That's horrible. I > know I keep > wondering what my future holds. As a student, I > have a terrible time > concentrating on my assignments and all the rituals > involved with the > mites are exhausting. I see a lot of homeless > people around my > school and sometimes I wonder if I'll be one of them > someday because > of these mites. I hope you can find work quickly so > you can also > take care of yourself! I'm also looking for work > for the summer. I > keep wondering about jobs where I would have to sit > or stand in the > same place--it is not good with mites, I don't > think. > > What I've been taking off and on for some months: > Ivermectin once a week > Cayenne Pepper capsules 3X day > Garlic 3X day > B1 (Thiamin) 100mg 3X day > Omega 3 3X day > Vitamin C 500mg 1X day > And sometimes B6 and B12 1X day > Now starting with OxyCaps which I think is the same > as Opamine, its > an oxygen supplement. > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if taking these 2 at the > sametime > > > is ok or is it > > > > counter productive? > > > > I have been taking the Albenzadol for almost a > > > month and still having > > > > symptoms. I have been taking iver on and off > for > > > 8 months and this > > > > last month 1/wk. > > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Cyndi > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cyndi, I don't know if it's considered > > > counter-productive, but I have > > > been taking albendazole daily also for about a > month > > > with Iver at 7 day > > > intervals. My activity and reactions amplified > at > > > first and now seem > > > to be improving? It seems like every symptom I > have > > > ever had up to a > > > point is what I seem to be experiencing in > reverse. > > > Currently I have a > > > rash on the whole of my upper torso. With the > > > combination of topicals, > > > cleanses, diet change, and supplements, their > hiding > > > places are showing > > > up. I can't believe my skin didn't show this at > > > all, its no wonder I > > > couldn't seem to get better. What are you > > > experiencing with your > > > combo? Anything similar? Do you feel like you > get > > > worse and then > > > better? > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 Lovitar: Before I forget, I spoke with someone who said that they called a top vet who takes care of race horses, and the vet said that some horses have to stay on ivermectin their whole life (because of persisant worms). So, I just thought I would mention this, because there is concern of cancer, from taking so much ivermectin. Well, Dr. Staninger did mention cancer when we all had our telephone conference with her. I've been on it for 2 years now. If anyone takes ivermectin, they should also take milk thistle, which is good for the liver. Mel Lucy Lu <lucylu62@...> wrote: Hi Lovitar,I also get those scarry thoughts about becominghomeless because of this.I know I could always live with my mom...but i am tooworried about giving her this...I get scared when Ijust go visit her.Waitressing jobs are good becuase you dont have to sitin one place...Yes -- I have read that they build an immunity to themeds--so it is good to alternate them.The mean woman that fired me doesnt know or care whatI am going thru....it seems so unfair that she gets tobe healthy when she is making so many people miserable(all the waitresses hate her and are scared of her).LL--- loviatar3 <loviatar3 > wrote:> The idea of alternating them makes sense, especially> since these bugs > seem to get resistent so quickly. > > It's hard to know if taking all those things on the> same day is bad > for you. My doctor said that there is no> information available for > long term ivermectin use, all the literature> discusses using one or > two doses for scabies, worms, or lice etc. So, it> seems we're > experimenting and taking a risk just by taking the> stuff like we do. > > I'm so sorry you got fired! That's horrible. I> know I keep > wondering what my future holds. As a student, I> have a terrible time > concentrating on my assignments and all the rituals> involved with the > mites are exhausting. I see a lot of homeless> people around my > school and sometimes I wonder if I'll be one of them> someday because > of these mites. I hope you can find work quickly so> you can also > take care of yourself! I'm also looking for work> for the summer. I > keep wondering about jobs where I would have to sit> or stand in the > same place--it is not good with mites, I don't> think. > > What I've been taking off and on for some months:> Ivermectin once a week> Cayenne Pepper capsules 3X day> Garlic 3X day> B1 (Thiamin) 100mg 3X day> Omega 3 3X day> Vitamin C 500mg 1X day> And sometimes B6 and B12 1X day> Now starting with OxyCaps which I think is the same> as Opamine, its > an oxygen supplement.> > > > > >> > > > Does anyone know if taking these 2 at the> sametime> > > is ok or is it > > > > counter productive?> > > > I have been taking the Albenzadol for almost a> > > month and still having > > > > symptoms. I have been taking iver on and off> for> > > 8 months and this > > > > last month 1/wk.> > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated.> > > > Thanks,> > > > Cyndi> > > >> > > > > > > > > Cyndi, I don't know if it's considered> > > counter-productive, but I have > > > been taking albendazole daily also for about a> month> > > with Iver at 7 day > > > intervals. My activity and reactions amplified> at> > > first and now seem > > > to be improving? It seems like every symptom I> have> > > ever had up to a > > > point is what I seem to be experiencing in> reverse. > > > Currently I have a > > > rash on the whole of my upper torso. With the> > > combination of topicals, > > > cleanses, diet change, and supplements, their> hiding> > > places are showing > > > up. I can't believe my skin didn't show this at> > > all, its no wonder I > > > couldn't seem to get better. What are you> > > experiencing with your > > > combo? Anything similar? Do you feel like you> get> > > worse and then > > > better?> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Mel, Thanks for the info. I somehow doubt this will cause cancer for us since pretty much everything does. I'll have to look into milk thistle. Loviatar > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if taking these 2 at the > > sametime > > > > is ok or is it > > > > > counter productive? > > > > > I have been taking the Albenzadol for almost a > > > > month and still having > > > > > symptoms. I have been taking iver on and off > > for > > > > 8 months and this > > > > > last month 1/wk. > > > > > Any input would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Cyndi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cyndi, I don't know if it's considered > > > > counter-productive, but I have > > > > been taking albendazole daily also for about a > > month > > > > with Iver at 7 day > > > > intervals. My activity and reactions amplified > > at > > > > first and now seem > > > > to be improving? It seems like every symptom I > > have > > > > ever had up to a > > > > point is what I seem to be experiencing in > > reverse. > > > > Currently I have a > > > > rash on the whole of my upper torso. With the > > > > combination of topicals, > > > > cleanses, diet change, and supplements, their > > hiding > > > > places are showing > > > > up. I can't believe my skin didn't show this at > > > > all, its no wonder I > > > > couldn't seem to get better. What are you > > > > experiencing with your > > > > combo? Anything similar? Do you feel like you > > get > > > > worse and then > > > > better? > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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