Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 That is the " $64,000 question " ! If we can ever figure out what the common denonimator is about all of us, we may be half way there! LD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Frito and Lady Dee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just read your posts back and forth.....I > > > definitely > > > > > > > identify > > > > > > > > > with what you describe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I didnt just have a few red streaks, I have > had > > > > > hundreds. > > > > > > > > > Some that left a cut and scarred. Some that were just > a > > > red > > > > > mark > > > > > > > > > beneath layers of skin. Some millimeters long, some > > > inches > > > > > long. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am unsure if these are the same thing as > the 'mites' or > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > created by them. I say this as Ray's family had the > > > streaks > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > well. Their streaks ended 3 weeks before the > > > biting/crawling > > > > > > > left. > > > > > > > > > While our red streaks lasted about 3 months after the > > > > > > > > > biting/crawling ended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also didnt start getting these streaks until about > a > > > month > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > the mite plague...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also got small bumps at times right around the > streak > > > > > areas. > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > I would always know when I was getting a streak as I > > > would > > > > > have a > > > > > > > > > tingly sensation in that area. And I almost always > had > > > them > > > > > > > appear > > > > > > > > > on my forearms.... .hairless area like you mentioned > Frito. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for the moles, fiber bundles, black specks, I had > > > those > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Drastic diet change, and adding in the opaline seemed > to > > > > > finally > > > > > > > > > stop the streaking... ...as well as a constant > parasite > > > > > > > cleanse..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I actually found a dermatology site one time and a > lot of > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > were complaining about red streaks, and odd scratches > on > > > > > their > > > > > > > skin - > > > > > > > > > but it was there only symptom. So I think it can > happen > > > > > > > > > independent of the mites too. The dermatologist just > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > > people forget about it and that it would eventually > go > > > away. > > > > > > > > > Some posters on there thought it could be a parasite > and > > > were > > > > > > > > > suggested cleanses.... .you may have stumbled upon > that > > > site > > > > > > > > > already. I dont know the link. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so no Frito your not alone! I'm not able to tell you > what > > > it > > > > > is, > > > > > > > > > people have suggested that it is a parasite related > to > > > > > > > > > morgellons.. ...its really all speculation > though....its > > > an > > > > > > > unknown > > > > > > > > > parasite. What ever it is you can get rid of it, just > > > like > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > mites. I have, so has Ray......... . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 I guess while we are all venting, I could have bought and paid cash for a BMW. Base model perhaps, but I am headed for the loaded version. I can't keep this up. Re: red streaks That is the "$64,000 question"! If we can ever figure out what the common denonimator is about all of us, we may be half way there! LD> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Frito and Lady Dee> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just read your posts back and forth.....I > > > definitely > > > > > > > identify > > > > > > > > > with what you describe.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I didnt just have a few red streaks, I have > had > > > > > hundreds.> > > > > > > > > Some that left a cut and scarred. Some that were just > a > > > red > > > > > mark > > > > > > > > > beneath layers of skin. Some millimeters long, some > > > inches > > > > > long.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am unsure if these are the same thing as > the 'mites' or > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > created by them. I say this as Ray's family had the > > > streaks > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > well. Their streaks ended 3 weeks before the > > > biting/crawling > > > > > > > left. > > > > > > > > > While our red streaks lasted about 3 months after the > > > > > > > > > biting/crawling ended.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also didnt start getting these streaks until about > a > > > month > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > the mite plague......> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also got small bumps at times right around the > streak > > > > > areas. > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > I would always know when I was getting a streak as I > > > would > > > > > have a > > > > > > > > > tingly sensation in that area. And I almost always > had > > > them > > > > > > > appear > > > > > > > > > on my forearms.... .hairless area like you mentioned > Frito.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for the moles, fiber bundles, black specks, I had > > > those > > > > > too.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Drastic diet change, and adding in the opaline seemed > to > > > > > finally > > > > > > > > > stop the streaking... ...as well as a constant > parasite > > > > > > > cleanse.....> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I actually found a dermatology site one time and a > lot of > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > were complaining about red streaks, and odd scratches > on > > > > > their > > > > > > > skin -> > > > > > > > > but it was there only symptom. So I think it can > happen > > > > > > > > > independent of the mites too. The dermatologist just > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > > people forget about it and that it would eventually > go > > > away. > > > > > > > > > Some posters on there thought it could be a parasite > and > > > were > > > > > > > > > suggested cleanses.... .you may have stumbled upon > that > > > site > > > > > > > > > already. I dont know the link.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so no Frito your not alone! I'm not able to tell you > what > > > it > > > > > is, > > > > > > > > > people have suggested that it is a parasite related > to > > > > > > > > > morgellons.. ...its really all speculation > though....its > > > an > > > > > > > unknown > > > > > > > > > parasite. What ever it is you can get rid of it, just > > > like > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > mites. I have, so has Ray......... .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > z> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Hi Zooks You now you are cured ... wow how great ! I am Bill from the topix forum, What did you do to get rid of this bug, ? I have tried to follow all that is on the forum, but there are alot of emails. last I read you went to a separate house in New Zealand ...right ? and stayed for a while. I never read any thing that happened after that, would you tell me ..? now you are cured ... wow how great ! Praise God/ Could you please let me know the steps you took and the medicines you used and how long you used them , (As I type to you on my epsom soaked laptop ) God Bless you, Bill From: <amandatheclimber@...>Subject: Re: red streaksbird mites Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 6:17 PM I liked to add a machete and machine gun to that image......> >> > Frito and Lady Dee> > > > I have just read your posts back and forth.....I definitely identify > > with what you describe.> > > > However I didnt just have a few red streaks, I have had hundreds.> > Some that left a cut and scarred. Some that were just a red mark > > beneath layers of skin. Some millimeters long, some inches long.> > > > I am unsure if these are the same thing as the 'mites' or even > > created by them. I say this as Ray's family had the streaks as > > well. Their streaks ended 3 weeks before the biting/crawling left. > > While our red streaks lasted about 3 months after the > > biting/crawling ended.> > > > I also didnt start getting these streaks until about a month into > > the mite plague.....> > > > I also got small bumps at times right around the streak areas. And > > I would always know when I was getting a streak as I would have a > > tingly sensation in that area. And I almost always had them appear > > on my forearms.... .hairless area like you mentioned Frito.> > > > As for the moles, fiber bundles, black specks, I had those too.> > > > Drastic diet change, and adding in the opaline seemed to finally > > stop the streaking... ...as well as a constant parasite cleanse.....> > > > I actually found a dermatology site one time and a lot of people > > were complaining about red streaks, and odd scratches on their skin -> > but it was there only symptom. So I think it can happen > > independent of the mites too. The dermatologist just recommended > > people forget about it and that it would eventually go away. > > Some posters on there thought it could be a parasite and were > > suggested cleanses.... .you may have stumbled upon that site > > already. I dont know the link.> > > > so no Frito your not alone! I'm not able to tell you what it is, > > people have suggested that it is a parasite related to > > morgellons.. ...its really all speculation though....its an unknown > > parasite. What ever it is you can get rid of it, just like the > > mites. I have, so has Ray......... .> > > > z> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Lots and lots of pain killers. You won't notice a thing.....Nah I'm joking. I think is it a combination of stuff; CO2 and heat along with figuring out the right host is by sensing our particular hormones and Urocanic acid(which is present in our skin). Urocanic acid is suppose to be surpressed by mentals which would explain why maybe Arrid Extra Dry works for a while? (It contains aluminum I think?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Frito and Lady Dee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just read your posts back and forth.....I > > > definitely > > > > > > > identify > > > > > > > > > with what you describe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However I didnt just have a few red streaks, I have > had > > > > > hundreds. > > > > > > > > > Some that left a cut and scarred. Some that were just > a > > > red > > > > > mark > > > > > > > > > beneath layers of skin. Some millimeters long, some > > > inches > > > > > long. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am unsure if these are the same thing as > the 'mites' or > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > created by them. I say this as Ray's family had the > > > streaks > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > well. Their streaks ended 3 weeks before the > > > biting/crawling > > > > > > > left. > > > > > > > > > While our red streaks lasted about 3 months after the > > > > > > > > > biting/crawling ended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also didnt start getting these streaks until about > a > > > month > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > the mite plague...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also got small bumps at times right around the > streak > > > > > areas. > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > I would always know when I was getting a streak as I > > > would > > > > > have a > > > > > > > > > tingly sensation in that area. And I almost always > had > > > them > > > > > > > appear > > > > > > > > > on my forearms.... .hairless area like you mentioned > Frito. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for the moles, fiber bundles, black specks, I had > > > those > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Drastic diet change, and adding in the opaline seemed > to > > > > > finally > > > > > > > > > stop the streaking... ...as well as a constant > parasite > > > > > > > cleanse..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I actually found a dermatology site one time and a > lot of > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > were complaining about red streaks, and odd scratches > on > > > > > their > > > > > > > skin - > > > > > > > > > but it was there only symptom. So I think it can > happen > > > > > > > > > independent of the mites too. The dermatologist just > > > > > recommended > > > > > > > > > people forget about it and that it would eventually > go > > > away. > > > > > > > > > Some posters on there thought it could be a parasite > and > > > were > > > > > > > > > suggested cleanses.... .you may have stumbled upon > that > > > site > > > > > > > > > already. I dont know the link. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so no Frito your not alone! I'm not able to tell you > what > > > it > > > > > is, > > > > > > > > > people have suggested that it is a parasite related > to > > > > > > > > > morgellons.. ...its really all speculation > though....its > > > an > > > > > > > unknown > > > > > > > > > parasite. What ever it is you can get rid of it, just > > > like > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > mites. I have, so has Ray......... . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > z > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 I am absolutely covered in red scratches with bite marks at the end.........aaarrgggHHH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Frito Have you changed anything? started anything new? What have you read on the lymebusters forum about them? Are the red streaks a tunnel out or a tunnel in? I know its all pretty much down to oppinion. You are so knowledgable frito, and you have worked much harder than many of us........ Anyway dont let them get you down, of all the symptoms they have to be the mildest.....its more a symbol of this nightmare than anything else z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Frito I took a look on the lymebusters site (thanks for the link) A lot of us will be really interested in anything you find out about those streaks.....thanks for your constant research....you have so much to offer this group. Happy 4th z > > Ahhh, gee Z, if I were so knowledgable, I would of cured everybody on here of this pestilence. But thanks for the upbeat........I really needed some kind thoughts. > I posted on LymeBusters a new thread concerning those red streaks. We shall see what theories we can pick up over the next few days. They really are a great group and have a lot of smarties that can lend a hand. (Kinda like this one, I like my peeps here:).........Frito > > > > Re: Red Streaks > > > Frito > Have you changed anything? started anything new? > What have you read on the lymebusters forum about them? > Are the red streaks a tunnel out or a tunnel in? I know its all > pretty much down to oppinion. > You are so knowledgable frito, and you have worked much harder than > many of us........ > > Anyway dont let them get you down, of all the symptoms they have to be > the mildest..... its more a symbol of this nightmare than anything else > > z > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Frito Well,I guess this forum isnt alone on that one....interesting read It seems like just a big unknown doesnt it! That was a very accurate pic someone posted of one. I took tones of pics of them too, but my eldest daughter went through and deleted every single one...I guess thats a memory she just didnt want. I know you are always working hard at this, and have found success with cleanses and working on the internal, are you on a diet too? Because I did use to see a connection between diet and these streaks....like after not having any for months and months, the day after easter totally crazy covered with them..... z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 It really has been interesting!! There are other threads that pertain as well, did you get a chance to pursue those? I follow the principals of Bee's diet on . the best Ican. I am surrounded by teenage boys and girls, so I can't say I am off the top strict. None-the-less, I am also having great results with my diet. I have noticed a lot of similarities between a candida diet, Lymie diet, and others. I think Bee is the bomb. Incredible info on supplements, immunizations, the germ theory, candida, connections to adrenal and thyroid function, etc. My thoughts on sugar........ I have to take you around the world in order to convey my thoughts properly here and their basis in the summary type of way, sooo...first, I am a morgie. I had bird mites. Those are gone, but left me with something additional. My environment is no longer the issue, it is my body. Anyone familiar with Morgellons is also somewhat familiar with the theories. (To interject, my definition of a parasite is something in which invades, is unwanted, causes problems, and may not necessarily be a bug, but has an organic structure or somepart of it) Irregardless of what our diagnosis is, no matter what theory is out there, no matter what anybody "thinks" "it" is, one or all of what I have been left with is organic. Bird mites, Rat mites, fleas, lice, Morg's, Lyme, on and on. Based solely on the actual STRUCTURE of the aforementioned, sugar is a component in these structures. So is protein, and amino acids. If in fact, a parasite exsists, then any of these components would contribute to the parasite? The exoskeletons of mites, nematodes, etc. are made of layers. Layers of proteins, glycoproteins, amino acids, and glucose is what they use for energy, just like us. So many of the things we use as in med's and pesticides target those internal pathways and transmissions. How is it possible to cut out all sugar in ones diet to actually effect a kill. I don't think it can be done, WE function on that very principal. It may help to cut their activity, but it doesn't get rid of any of these. That is what I want. Please don't go out and get a candy bar after reading this, I think a everything in moderation and what seems to help one is good advice. Also, refined sugar, actually refined anything these days has proven to be unhealthy. I think sugar should be thought of as an additional investment into ones own health. The kind you choose will determine the pay off in the end. They say that life begins in the colon, sugar will breed all sorts of imbalances. It fuels candida as well. As far as parasites, when I do decide to have something (home-made lemon ice sorbet last night), I don't feel anything signifigant as in worsening. At least now anyways, maybe not when I first started the principals of Bee's diet. I eat pizza too once in awhile Z.....don't stop the cleanses and the supplements you were doing. I was told to do this for atleast one year by my Morgie doc. Stay well Z........XXOO......Frito Re: Red Streaks FritoWell,I guess this forum isnt alone on that one....interesting readIt seems like just a big unknown doesnt it! That was a very accurate pic someone posted of one. I took tones of pics of them too, but my eldest daughter went through and deleted every single one...I guess thats a memory she just didnt want.I know you are always working hard at this, and have found success with cleanses and working on the internal, are you on a diet too?Because I did use to see a connection between diet and these streaks....like after not having any for months and months, the day after easter totally crazy covered with them.....z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Frito Wow, you could and SHOULD write a book. I will go back and read some more on the lymebusters forum....there seem to be some smart people on that site, a little too smart, I got a bit lost....but I will perservere (sp?) Thanks for the reminder that I need to keep up with the cleanses. I am about to go online and look for the ones you found the most helpful. The parasite cleanse is found at www.healthwalk.com. It contains a lot of the same sort of ingredients as the hildy clark parasite cleanse, it is a lot cheaper....the only beef I have against it is that it smells bad.....I didnt care when I was in the middle of fighting a plague.....but now I get a bit worried about standing too close when I talk to people I think Som said to take alfalfa with it and it stops the smell....I need to give that a try... So you found a doctor, is it dr staniger? If so, is she expensive? I have heard she doesnt post her protocol online.....I have been sort of following dr. Kolbs protocol as its online and I was/still am worried about a possible morgellons connection for us.... I also agree with you about diet. I know that diet will not kill this, I guess I feel like I hosted this nightmare, and I am willing to spend the rest of my life on some crazy awful diet if it means that this wont blow up in our house again....What ever we had bit me in a motel bed, seemed to go away, then came back full force a few weeks later....it wasnt scabies thats about the only think I am sure about....so I do know that it can go internal then explode back out...I'm pretty sure of that. Anyway just wanted to thank you for that post....gave me lots to think about.....I am so happy for you that you have found a doctor to help you with this.....it sounds like you are improving, and gaining ground all the time..... z > > It really has been interesting!! There are other threads that pertain as well, did you get a chance to pursue those? I follow the principals of Bee's diet on the best Ican. I am surrounded by teenage boys and girls, so I can't say I am off the top strict. None-the-less, I am also having great results with my diet. I have noticed a lot of similarities between a candida diet, Lymie diet, and others.. I think Bee is the bomb. Incredible info on supplements, immunizations, the germ theory, candida, connections to adrenal and thyroid function, etc. > My thoughts on sugar........ > I have to take you around the world in order to convey my thoughts properly here and their basis in the summary type of way, sooo...first, I am a morgie. I had bird mites. Those are gone, but left me with something additional. My environment is no longer the issue, it is my body. Anyone familiar with Morgellons is also somewhat familiar with the theories. (To interject, my definition of a parasite is something in which invades, is unwanted, causes problems, and may not necessarily be a bug, but has an organic structure or somepart of it) Irregardless of what our diagnosis is, no matter what theory is out there, no matter what anybody " thinks " " it " is, one or all of what I have been left with is organic. Bird mites, Rat mites, fleas, lice, Morg's, Lyme, on and on. Based solely on the actual STRUCTURE of the aforementioned, sugar is a component in these structures. So is protein, and amino acids. If in fact, a parasite exsists, then any > of these components would contribute to the parasite? The exoskeletons of mites, nematodes, etc. are made of layers. Layers of proteins, glycoproteins, amino acids, and glucose is what they use for energy, just like us.. So many of the things we use as in med's and pesticides target those internal pathways and transmissions. How is it possible to cut out all sugar in ones diet to actually effect a kill. I don't think it can be done, WE function on that very principal. It may help to cut their activity, but it doesn't get rid of any of these. That is what I want. Please don't go out and get a candy bar after reading this, I think a everything in moderation and what seems to help one is good advice. Also, refined sugar, actually refined anything these days has proven to be unhealthy. I think sugar should be thought of as an additional investment into ones own health. The kind you choose will determine the pay off in the end. They > say that life begins in the colon, sugar will breed all sorts of imbalances. It fuels candida as well. As far as parasites, when I do decide to have something (home-made lemon ice sorbet last night), I don't feel anything signifigant as in worsening. At least now anyways, maybe not when I first started the principals of Bee's diet. I eat pizza too once in awhile > Z.....don't stop the cleanses and the supplements you were doing. I was told to do this for atleast one year by my Morgie doc. Stay well Z.........XXOO......Frito > > > > Re: Red Streaks > > > Frito > Well,I guess this forum isnt alone on that one....interesting read > It seems like just a big unknown doesnt it! That was a very accurate > pic someone posted of one. I took tones of pics of them too, but my > eldest daughter went through and deleted every single one...I guess > thats a memory she just didnt want. > > I know you are always working hard at this, and have found success > with cleanses and working on the internal, are you on a diet too? > Because I did use to see a connection between diet and these > streaks....like after not having any for months and months, the day > after easter totally crazy covered with them..... > > z > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Z......I miss SOM...... He is correct about the alfalfa and you will notice I included it in the cleansing ingredients I posted. I looked at it and forgot to post it, so let's post it here. http://healthwalk.com/ProductsStore/HealthWalkSupplements/ReVoxil/tabid/124/Default.aspx Whenever you ingest large quantities of garlic, taking alfalfa will counteract the smell one acquires in taking it. Taking the "no odor" kind is not as effective or recommended for parasite targeting. Z....you should see some of the threads going on there! Definately pertains to some issues people are having here. I really like this group! I have found that mite issues, Lyme issues, and Morg issues all overlapp each other. There is good info for all on each. They also have a great section on kids. take care all............Frito Re: Red Streaks> > > Frito> Well,I guess this forum isnt alone on that one....interesting read> It seems like just a big unknown doesnt it! That was a very accurate > pic someone posted of one. I took tones of pics of them too, but my > eldest daughter went through and deleted every single one...I guess > thats a memory she just didnt want.> > I know you are always working hard at this, and have found success > with cleanses and working on the internal, are you on a diet too?> Because I did use to see a connection between diet and these > streaks....like after not having any for months and months, the day > after easter totally crazy covered with them.....> > z> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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