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Its just not fair. I am so sorry, such a miserable scourge we suffer.

I'm so sad.

About a month ago, I met a young woman. We hung out a few times. We started to like each other. No one had gotten the mites from me since January and I felt as though I was almost completely free. I told her about the mites and about how people had caught them. But we had been getting to know each other and she wanted to spend time with me. I had had friends ride in my car and they didn't get anything and roommates who don't get anything. I've visited friends' apartments and they haven't gotten anything. So, we both thought it was safe. Neither of us slept at the other person's place and we didn't even so much as kiss, we've only hugged and held hands and she's been in my car and in our living room. We both cried today and prayed that she get rid of them and I get rid of them. I can't believe that my worst fear has come true. My worst fear was that I would come to like someone and they would get the

mites. It's so horrible. I've tried to help her and I don't know how she will fare in the fight. Pray for her. A few nights ago, I heard rustling in my room. Today, I found out that one of my roommates had a rodent chew a hole in his clothes. This is why things are getting worse and why this has happened.

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Can I ask you a question? Why do you go by Loviatar, the Goddess of Misery? I will pray for both of you. My heart has been breaking this last week. I/we have got to believe there will be an end. What is she going through? Can any of us be of assistance? God Bless you both, and may he have mercy on us all.

I'm so sad.

About a month ago, I met a young woman. We hung out a few times. We started to like each other. No one had gotten the mites from me since January and I felt as though I was almost completely free. I told her about the mites and about how people had caught them. But we had been getting to know each other and she wanted to spend time with me. I had had friends ride in my car and they didn't get anything and roommates who don't get anything. I've visited friends' apartments and they haven't gotten anything. So, we both thought it was safe. Neither of us slept at the other person's place and we didn't even so much as kiss, we've only hugged and held hands and she's been in my car and in our living room. We both cried today and prayed that she get rid of them and I get rid of them. I can't believe that my worst fear has come true. My worst fear was that I would come to like someone and they would get the

mites. It's so horrible. I've tried to help her and I don't know how she will fare in the fight. Pray for her. A few nights ago, I heard rustling in my room. Today, I found out that one of my roommates had a rodent chew a hole in his clothes. This is why things are getting worse and why this has happened.

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I am so sorry this has happened to your friend (and you). Please be

sure I will pray for both of you as I do all the sufferers on this

forum. Can you get your landlord to exterminate for rodents? If

not, you might be able to get the city health dept to put pressure on

him/her.

You will never get rid of them as long as rodents are able to get

into your apartment.

Joan

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> Its just not fair.  I am so sorry, such a miserable scourge we

suffer.

>

>

>

> I'm so sad.

>

>

> About a month ago, I met a young woman. We hung out a few times. We

> started to like each other. No one had gotten the mites from me

since

> January and I felt as though I was almost completely free. I told

her

> about the mites and about how people had caught them. But we had

been

> getting to know each other and she wanted to spend time with me. I

had

> had friends ride in my car and they didn't get anything and

roommates

> who don't get anything. I've visited friends' apartments and they

> haven't gotten anything. So, we both thought it was safe. Neither

of

> us slept at the other person's place and we didn't even so much as

> kiss, we've only hugged and held hands and she's been in my car and

in

> our living room. We both cried today and prayed that she get rid of

> them and I get rid of them. I can't believe that my worst fear has

> come true. My worst fear was that I would come to like someone and

> they would get the mites. It's so horrible. I've tried to help her

> and I don't know how she will fare in the fight. Pray for her.

>

> A few nights ago, I heard rustling in my room. Today, I found out

that

> one of my roommates had a rodent chew a hole in his clothes. This

is

> why things are getting worse and why this has happened.

>

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Thank you all for your kind words and prayers. She is itching and

has bites, but no crawling as of yet. The landlord issue is

difficult since I am already in public housing and it seems they

don't care about codes at all. The city government tends to be

rather negligent. I'll try to trap the rodents. When I moved into

my room, I put out poison and traps right away. Nothing in the

traps. Hopefully they're eating the poison.

I chose the name Loviatar because in ancient times, people asked her

to call back her children, the plagues. While she was the source of

plagues, as their mother, she was also the solution, because she

could take them back to her bossom. I feel this way since I got this

last November, having accidentally afflicted so many of my loved ones-

-some of which have gotten rid of it and others who still struggle.

At the same time, I work hard at finding solutions the best I can--in

a way, to take back the plague. I just wish the trajedy would not

continue.

>

> Can I ask you a question?  Why do you go by Loviatar, the Goddess

of Misery?  I will pray for both of you.  My heart has been breaking

this last week.  I/we have got to believe there will be an end.  What

is she going through?  Can any of us be of assistance?  God Bless you

both, and may he have mercy on us all.

>

>

>

> I'm so sad.

>

>

> About a month ago, I met a young woman. We hung out a few times. We

> started to like each other. No one had gotten the mites from me

since

> January and I felt as though I was almost completely free. I told

her

> about the mites and about how people had caught them. But we had

been

> getting to know each other and she wanted to spend time with me. I

had

> had friends ride in my car and they didn't get anything and

roommates

> who don't get anything. I've visited friends' apartments and they

> haven't gotten anything. So, we both thought it was safe. Neither

of

> us slept at the other person's place and we didn't even so much as

> kiss, we've only hugged and held hands and she's been in my car and

in

> our living room. We both cried today and prayed that she get rid of

> them and I get rid of them. I can't believe that my worst fear has

> come true. My worst fear was that I would come to like someone and

> they would get the mites. It's so horrible. I've tried to help her

> and I don't know how she will fare in the fight. Pray for her.

>

> A few nights ago, I heard rustling in my room. Today, I found out

that

> one of my roommates had a rodent chew a hole in his clothes. This

is

> why things are getting worse and why this has happened.

>

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Very interesting. I hope I wasn't being too nosy..... You are in a most difficult situation.

I'm so sad.> > > About a month ago, I met a young woman. We hung out a few times. We > started to like each other. No one had gotten the mites from me since > January and I felt as though I was almost completely free. I told her > about the mites and about how people had caught them. But we had been > getting to know each other and she wanted to spend time with me. I had > had friends ride in my car and they didn't get anything and

roommates > who don't get anything. I've visited friends' apartments and they > haven't gotten anything. So, we both thought it was safe. Neither of > us slept at the other person's place and we didn't even so much as > kiss, we've only hugged and held hands and she's been in my car and in > our living room. We both cried today and prayed that she get rid of > them and I get rid of them. I can't believe that my worst fear has > come true. My worst fear was that I would come to like someone and > they would get the mites. It's so horrible. I've tried to help her > and I don't know how she will fare in the fight. Pray for her. > > A few nights ago, I heard rustling in my room. Today, I found out that > one of my roommates had a rodent chew a hole in his clothes. This is > why things are getting worse and why this has

happened.>

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I think there is an important lesson here. We need to be POSITIVE! If

you havent seen movie/book " the secret " please do so. In essence, OUR

THOUGHTS BECOME REALITY. So if you are constantly thinking about how

afraid you are going to meet someone and infest them well then is

probably going to happen!

Part of prayer for me is visualizing what I want. I also refrain from

negative proclamations or reaffirmations of things yet to come because

I dont want to be responsible for everything bad in my life. I believe

our thoughts, statements and beliefs have a lot more to do with what

happens to us than we could ever suspect!

We just have to be positive in the extreme. Affirm the positive and

watch it come into being. If there is a will there is a way. WE WILL

BREAK FREE FROM THIS SCOURGE!

>

> Can I ask you a question? Why do you go by Loviatar, the Goddess of

Misery? I will pray for both of you. My heart has been breaking this

last week. I/we have got to believe there will be an end. What is

she going through? Can any of us be of assistance? God Bless you

both, and may he have mercy on us all.

>

>

>

> I'm so sad.

>

>

> About a month ago, I met a young woman. We hung out a few times. We

> started to like each other. No one had gotten the mites from me since

> January and I felt as though I was almost completely free. I told her

> about the mites and about how people had caught them. But we had been

> getting to know each other and she wanted to spend time with me. I had

> had friends ride in my car and they didn't get anything and roommates

> who don't get anything. I've visited friends' apartments and they

> haven't gotten anything. So, we both thought it was safe. Neither of

> us slept at the other person's place and we didn't even so much as

> kiss, we've only hugged and held hands and she's been in my car and in

> our living room. We both cried today and prayed that she get rid of

> them and I get rid of them. I can't believe that my worst fear has

> come true. My worst fear was that I would come to like someone and

> they would get the mites. It's so horrible. I've tried to help her

> and I don't know how she will fare in the fight. Pray for her.

>

> A few nights ago, I heard rustling in my room. Today, I found out that

> one of my roommates had a rodent chew a hole in his clothes. This is

> why things are getting worse and why this has happened.

>

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Lord, I just want to pray for Loviator and his new

friend that he has come to know recently. I pray for

your protection over her, and especially her emotions.

I pray that in this fight, that Loviator will find a

friend in this that cares and will stand by him in

this battle. I pray for strength and dependence on

You. I pray for a way to get rid of these rodents and

wisdom in what to do next. Thank you that you care

for us and that you see our hurts. Bring comfort and

peace to Loviator.

Amen

--- loviatar3 <loviatar3@...> wrote:

> About a month ago, I met a young woman. We hung out

> a few times. We

> started to like each other. No one had gotten the

> mites from me since

> January and I felt as though I was almost completely

> free. I told her

> about the mites and about how people had caught

> them. But we had been

> getting to know each other and she wanted to spend

> time with me. I had

> had friends ride in my car and they didn't get

> anything and roommates

> who don't get anything. I've visited friends'

> apartments and they

> haven't gotten anything. So, we both thought it was

> safe. Neither of

> us slept at the other person's place and we didn't

> even so much as

> kiss, we've only hugged and held hands and she's

> been in my car and in

> our living room. We both cried today and prayed

> that she get rid of

> them and I get rid of them. I can't believe that my

> worst fear has

> come true. My worst fear was that I would come to

> like someone and

> they would get the mites. It's so horrible. I've

> tried to help her

> and I don't know how she will fare in the fight.

> Pray for her.

>

> A few nights ago, I heard rustling in my room.

> Today, I found out that

> one of my roommates had a rodent chew a hole in his

> clothes. This is

> why things are getting worse and why this has

> happened.

>

>

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Whom is being negative? What are you talking about?

I'm so sad.> > > About a month ago, I met a young woman. We hung out a few times. We > started to like each other. No one had gotten the mites from me since > January and I felt as though I was almost completely free. I told her > about the mites and about how people had caught them. But we had been > getting to know each other and she wanted to spend time with me. I had > had friends ride in my car and they didn't get anything and roommates > who don't get anything. I've visited friends' apartments and they > haven't gotten anything. So, we both thought it was safe. Neither of > us slept at the other person's place and we didn't even so much as > kiss, we've

only hugged and held hands and she's been in my car and in > our living room. We both cried today and prayed that she get rid of > them and I get rid of them. I can't believe that my worst fear has > come true. My worst fear was that I would come to like someone and > they would get the mites. It's so horrible. I've tried to help her > and I don't know how she will fare in the fight. Pray for her. > > A few nights ago, I heard rustling in my room. Today, I found out that > one of my roommates had a rodent chew a hole in his clothes. This is > why things are getting worse and why this has happened.>

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Thank you dzorro. I'll share what you wrote with her.

Update: We'll probably have someone come look at the rodent situation

this coming week. I'm hoping for the best. I found out that the

floor above me had had a rat problem earlier. I set up more and

better traps just to see if I can catch something before the

exterminators come, it isn't a matter I want to sit on my hands for.

>

> > About a month ago, I met a young woman. We hung out

> > a few times. We

> > started to like each other. No one had gotten the

> > mites from me since

> > January and I felt as though I was almost completely

> > free. I told her

> > about the mites and about how people had caught

> > them. But we had been

> > getting to know each other and she wanted to spend

> > time with me. I had

> > had friends ride in my car and they didn't get

> > anything and roommates

> > who don't get anything. I've visited friends'

> > apartments and they

> > haven't gotten anything. So, we both thought it was

> > safe. Neither of

> > us slept at the other person's place and we didn't

> > even so much as

> > kiss, we've only hugged and held hands and she's

> > been in my car and in

> > our living room. We both cried today and prayed

> > that she get rid of

> > them and I get rid of them. I can't believe that my

> > worst fear has

> > come true. My worst fear was that I would come to

> > like someone and

> > they would get the mites. It's so horrible. I've

> > tried to help her

> > and I don't know how she will fare in the fight.

> > Pray for her.

> >

> > A few nights ago, I heard rustling in my room.

> > Today, I found out that

> > one of my roommates had a rodent chew a hole in his

> > clothes. This is

> > why things are getting worse and why this has

> > happened.

> >

> >

>

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When I saw the remark on the meaning of Loviator, " the Goddess of

misery " I was reminded of my adolescence when I sulked and was a very

pessimistic person who rarely caught a break.

I looked through Loviator's post again and read the following, " My

worst fear was that I would come to like someone and they would get

the mites. "

This reminded me of watching " The Secret, " a corny but otherwise

liberating documentary on the power of our thoughts and feelings to

affirm our reality. That is, 'what we focus on when we think and feel

is what we tend to get day to day'.

If I still am not making any sense then I highly recommend finding

the movie at the nearest public library.

I am not trying to say anyone is being negative. I just mean to

suggest a way of being that might mean getting over this scourge

quicker. I myself am still fighting this but even with little in the

way of permanent cures I still try to find the silver lining and be

thankful for what is going right with my life (which believe you me,

isnt much).

If nothing else we have to admonish the fact that being positive, as

apposed to brooding or depression, can help boost the immune system.

With that said I have sigh because I should know! I know what it means

to be sad and even suicidal. I am still working on it myself. Im not

perfect, but I have noticed a difference since I began watching my

thoughts. I spend less time down in the dumps and more of it enjoying

myself, even when I am dealing with a nameless sourge affecting me in

more ways than I ever thought possible.

In any case, I am sorry if I came off as pedantic or like I have it

all figured out. All in all I am just trying to share what works for

me. :/

-kristen

> >

> > Can I ask you a question? Why do you go by Loviatar, the Goddess of

> Misery? I will pray for both of you. My heart has been breaking this

> last week. I/we have got to believe there will be an end. What is

> she going through? Can any of us be of assistance? God Bless you

> both, and may he have mercy on us all.

> >

> >

> >

> > I'm so sad.

> >

> >

> > About a month ago, I met a young woman. We hung out a few times. We

> > started to like each other. No one had gotten the mites from me since

> > January and I felt as though I was almost completely free. I told her

> > about the mites and about how people had caught them. But we had been

> > getting to know each other and she wanted to spend time with me. I

had

> > had friends ride in my car and they didn't get anything and roommates

> > who don't get anything. I've visited friends' apartments and they

> > haven't gotten anything. So, we both thought it was safe. Neither of

> > us slept at the other person's place and we didn't even so much as

> > kiss, we've only hugged and held hands and she's been in my car

and in

> > our living room. We both cried today and prayed that she get rid of

> > them and I get rid of them. I can't believe that my worst fear has

> > come true. My worst fear was that I would come to like someone and

> > they would get the mites. It's so horrible. I've tried to help her

> > and I don't know how she will fare in the fight. Pray for her.

> >

> > A few nights ago, I heard rustling in my room. Today, I found out

that

> > one of my roommates had a rodent chew a hole in his clothes. This is

> > why things are getting worse and why this has happened.

> >

>

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Suicidal....Suicide....I don't understand it. Not once through all of this did I ever even think about it. How can any person take so little stock in their own lives or how there life might affect another? Others may view me as a lepar, but I can still have my own rightful place on this planet. I may be scarred and sick, but I can still help someone else, make their life if even for a moment, just a little bit better. As far as thinking, if the extreme positiveness works, so be it. We all have our methods. In addition to thinking, well in my life, thinking never really got me anywhere but perhaps motivated. DOING does get someone somewhere. Positiveness does have its rightful place, but when somebody is pouring their heart out because it is

breaking because they might in some way feel even a little bit responsible for the outcome in which they feared in the first place, is kinda like a slap in the face. The same slap we all got when seeing our physicians, covered in sores, itching from hell, not sleeping at night, and becoming ill, and being told we were the ones responsible for our sores, the itching was imagined, that we may have some pyscho disorder, and heres some anitdepressant meds. Positive thinking is great so long as it doesn't interfer with DOING, Same with depression, same with anger, same with jealousy, etc., etc.

For you to tell me to go to my public library if in fact I still do not understand is condescending and you must think I have any lack for brains. While you are at the public library, might I suggest you get out Webster's dictionary and look up validation as well as empathy.

I'm so sad.> > > > > > About a month ago, I met a young woman. We hung out a few times. We > > started to like each other. No one had gotten the mites from me since > > January

and I felt as though I was almost completely free. I told her > > about the mites and about how people had caught them. But we had been > > getting to know each other and she wanted to spend time with me. Ihad > > had friends ride in my car and they didn't get anything and roommates > > who don't get anything. I've visited friends' apartments and they > > haven't gotten anything. So, we both thought it was safe. Neither of > > us slept at the other person's place and we didn't even so much as > > kiss, we've only hugged and held hands and she's been in my carand in > > our living room. We both cried today and prayed that she get rid of > > them and I get rid of them. I can't believe that my worst fear has > > come true. My worst fear was that I would come to like someone and > > they would get the mites. It's so horrible. I've tried to

help her > > and I don't know how she will fare in the fight. Pray for her. > > > > A few nights ago, I heard rustling in my room. Today, I found outthat > > one of my roommates had a rodent chew a hole in his clothes. This is > > why things are getting worse and why this has happened.> >>

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Thanks ,

This is a really nice mail...

I had an other thought, does some experienced swimming pool and taking saunas??

Saunas couldn't help puting these bugs out of skin??

Some experience?

F.

I'm so sad.> > > > > > About a month ago, I met a young woman. We hung out a few times. We > > started to like each other. No one had gotten the mites from me since > > January

and I felt as though I was almost completely free. I told her > > about the mites and about how people had caught them. But we had been > > getting to know each other and she wanted to spend time with me. Ihad > > had friends ride in my car and they didn't get anything and roommates > > who don't get anything. I've visited friends' apartments and they > > haven't gotten anything. So, we both thought it was safe. Neither of > > us slept at the other person's place and we didn't even so much as > > kiss, we've only hugged and held hands and she's been in my carand in > > our living room. We both cried today and prayed that she get rid of > > them and I get rid of them. I can't believe that my worst fear has > > come true. My worst fear was that I would come to like someone and > > they would get the mites. It's so horrible. I've tried to

help her > > and I don't know how she will fare in the fight. Pray for her. > > > > A few nights ago, I heard rustling in my room. Today, I found outthat > > one of my roommates had a rodent chew a hole in his clothes. This is > > why things are getting worse and why this has happened.> >>

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