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Thank you for sharing this. It is very

helpful.

Did you find her PH Diet on her site?

I cannot seem to locate it.

Thanks,

P~

From: bird mites [mailto:bird mites ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008

4:34 PM

bird mites

Subject: Re: ESP

Botanicals Question - Z

Howdy, I just received a very nice email, with a few

helpful tips,

from Trisha at ESP botanicals. I just had to share it. B

Dear Bob,

I will be sending you some information on the mite situation, it is

emerging all over the country. There are a few things we have

learned about this situation:

Wash clothing in Borax, Arm and Hammer washing soda, Arm and Hammer

organics, use vinegar (apple cider) for cleaning windows and in your

environment.

Take baths with 1 cup of epsom salts, 1/4 Cup of Borax, 1/2 cup of

Baking soda. You can add Tea Tree Oil and Peppermint to the bath 10

drops of each. I am sending a spray out to spray on Bedding. and on

your skin when you go outside to keep you from getting more biting.

If you take a look at my site there is a PH Diet, it is necessary to

Ph your body, many people seem to get better when their bodies are

more in an alkaline state. You can buy a Ph buffer at the health food

store, if it is hard for you to maintain a diet then you can use the

Ph buffer as ordered.

Stay away from Bleach, Ammonia and other harsh chemicals.

If you go to www.jcrowsmarketplace.com you can buy Lugols solution

take 2 drops with a shot of apple cider vinegar

twice a day. Add 3 drops of Lugols solution when washing clothes that

also seems to help.

I will be sending you more guidelines with your order.

Sincerely,

Trisha

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program,

since I am

at

> a

> > > > > healing plateau

> > > > > > with not much more coming out of my skin.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on

my

> chest,

> > > > > stomach, and

> > > > > > torso. They do not seem to be going away or

getting

> better.

> > In

> > > > > fact, I seem

> > > > > > to be getting more of them, even while I

experience less

> of

> > > the

> > > > > biting and

> > > > > > crawling. They are not itchy or causing lesions,

but I

> know

> > > that

> > > > > they were

> > > > > > not on my skin before this!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they

make

those

> > > tiny

> > > > > red spots

> > > > > > come off your skin, too, or do you still have

them on

your

> > > > bodies?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising.

Although

> we

> > > do

> > > > > not have a

> > > > > > hot tub.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sue and and others, is that pulling the

red spots

> out

> > > of

> > > > > your skin?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to

pour on

> > your

> > > > > eyes ESP

> > > > > > Botanicals, or was it something else?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > P~

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Pamela,

Go the the homepage and scroll down just a little bit. You will come

to four boxes in a row, the second one in is the diet suggestions.

It will help you if you follow it.

B

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program, since I am

> at

> > a

> > > > > > healing plateau

> > > > > > > with not much more coming out of my skin.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on my

> > chest,

> > > > > > stomach, and

> > > > > > > torso. They do not seem to be going away or getting

> > better.

> > > In

> > > > > > fact, I seem

> > > > > > > to be getting more of them, even while I experience

less

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > biting and

> > > > > > > crawling. They are not itchy or causing lesions, but I

> > know

> > > > that

> > > > > > they were

> > > > > > > not on my skin before this!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they make

> those

> > > > tiny

> > > > > > red spots

> > > > > > > come off your skin, too, or do you still have them on

> your

> > > > > bodies?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising.

Although

> > we

> > > > do

> > > > > > not have a

> > > > > > > hot tub.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sue and and others, is that pulling the red

spots

> > out

> > > > of

> > > > > > your skin?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to pour

on

> > > your

> > > > > > eyes ESP

> > > > > > > Botanicals, or was it something else?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Many thanks all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P~

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Pamela

She always sends a copy of the diet with her products.

I loosely follow the ph diet

basically I eat Lots of fruits and vegetables (not potatoes)

lots of yogurt, cottage cheese, chicken.

limit grains, meat (red in particular), dairy (except those

mentioned) and starchy veges.

basically its not a diet where you are not allowed to eat these

foods, its just a diet where you should eat them in a ratio of 80/20.

If you dont want to follow the diet, or you cant, you can just buy a

buffer ph instead. You can also take baking soda mixed in water to

help ph your system.

z

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program, since I

am

> at

> > a

> > > > > > healing plateau

> > > > > > > with not much more coming out of my skin.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on my

> > chest,

> > > > > > stomach, and

> > > > > > > torso. They do not seem to be going away or getting

> > better.

> > > In

> > > > > > fact, I seem

> > > > > > > to be getting more of them, even while I experience

less

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > biting and

> > > > > > > crawling. They are not itchy or causing lesions, but I

> > know

> > > > that

> > > > > > they were

> > > > > > > not on my skin before this!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they make

> those

> > > > tiny

> > > > > > red spots

> > > > > > > come off your skin, too, or do you still have them on

> your

> > > > > bodies?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising.

Although

> > we

> > > > do

> > > > > > not have a

> > > > > > > hot tub.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sue and and others, is that pulling the red

spots

> > out

> > > > of

> > > > > > your skin?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to pour

on

> > > your

> > > > > > eyes ESP

> > > > > > > Botanicals, or was it something else?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Many thanks all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P~

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Pam;

that EV coconut (oil) is a must have, for skin and hair, the asian ladies use it all the time for shiny hair, besides it's anti-fungal benefits and in our case the mites. Mix it with the EV Olive oil too sometimes. I love the young coconut fresh as well, great nourishment and enriched with just about everything beneficial.

I love to dribble TTO into my hair for a quick fix of getting rid of any on the attack mites on my scalp or hair. Just smells too much in public, I am with patients and some of the hospital settings I am going to have so many smells already embedded, that I feel I may just blend in, well in some cases, I still proceed with caution

I love my selsun blue medicated shampoo, it really works and tingles nicely, leave it on my head wrapped in plastic for some challenging nights when particularly mite plagued..

Best wishes for a soon to be mite free very happy existence !

M

From: Pamela <pamelab@...>Subject: RE: Re: ESP Botanicals & Dietbird mites Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 12:28 PM

Thank you for sharing this. It is very helpful.

Did you find her PH Diet on her site?

I cannot seem to locate it.

Thanks,

P~

From: bird mites [mailto: bird mites ] On Behalf Of Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:34 PMbird mitesSubject: Re: ESP Botanicals Question - Z

Howdy, I just received a very nice email, with a few helpful tips, from Trisha at ESP botanicals. I just had to share it. BDear Bob,I will be sending you some information on the mite situation, it is emerging all over the country. There are a few things we have learned about this situation:Wash clothing in Borax, Arm and Hammer washing soda, Arm and Hammer organics, use vinegar (apple cider) for cleaning windows and in your environment. Take baths with 1 cup of epsom salts, 1/4 Cup of Borax, 1/2 cup of Baking soda. You can add Tea Tree Oil and Peppermint to the bath 10 drops of each. I am sending a spray out to spray on Bedding. and on your skin when you go outside to keep you from getting more biting. If you take a look at my site there is a PH Diet, it is necessary to Ph your body, many people seem to get

better when their bodies are more in an alkaline state. You can buy a Ph buffer at the health food store, if it is hard for you to maintain a diet then you can use the Ph buffer as ordered. Stay away from Bleach, Ammonia and other harsh chemicals. If you go to www.jcrowsmarketpla ce.com you can buy Lugols solution take 2 drops with a shot of apple cider vinegar twice a day. Add 3 drops of Lugols solution when washing clothes that also seems to help. I will be sending you more guidelines with your order. Sincerely, Trisha> > > > > >> > > > > > I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program, since I am at > a > > > > > healing plateau> > > > > > with not much more coming out of my skin.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on my > chest, > > > > > stomach, and> > > > > > torso. They do not seem to be going away or getting > better. > > In > > > > > fact, I seem> > > > > >

to be getting more of them, even while I experience less > of > > > the > > > > > biting and> > > > > > crawling. They are not itchy or causing lesions, but I > know > > > that > > > > > they were> > > > > > not on my skin before this!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they make those > > > tiny > > > > > red spots> > > > > > come off your skin, too, or do you still have them on your > > > > bodies?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising. Although > we > >

> do > > > > > not have a> > > > > > hot tub. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sue and and others, is that pulling the red spots > out > > > of > > > > > your skin?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to pour on > > your > > > > > eyes ESP> > > > > > Botanicals, or was it something else?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks all,> > > > >

> > > > > > > P~> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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Hi, Pamela! The info on diet is here:

http://www.espbotanicals.com/news_ph_correct_diet_.html

Couldn't find it on her homepage, either. Trisha seems to be working

on her webpages - you can always search " diet " , which is how I

located it.

Someone said they used the esp routine twice a day & I've only been

using it once. So I checked the instructions that came with the New

Hope set. They didn't mention how often a day to use them. But I did

notice the alternate instructions:

" For Ulcerations and Persons who have crawling, itching and Biting

sensations. We have some recommended feedback from sufferers. Apply

soap and water to skin and let dry on skin for 24 hours, like a

masque, bathe in 1 cup of Epsom salts with added 1/4 cup borax and

1/4 cup Arm and Hammer Baking soda then shower off and apply the soap

again for 24 hours, do this for 2-3 days, then apply balm or Serum

for 2 days. Then repeat Steps above. "

So I tried that tack, substituting my Instant Ocean baths for the

Epsom salt, borax & baking soda bath, then soaping up in the shower

afterwards. Normally I let it dry the 5 minutes, rinsed it off & put

on the body balm. This time I didn't rinse the soap & skipped the

balm entirely accordingly. Too chilly letting the soap dry so I could

dress - used the hairdryer trick.

And - got to watch as an assortment detached from my skin into the

soap residue! Maybe a dozen mites, and not from red spots, either.

Makes me think they have to be in place a bit before they cause the

spot effect...

But the shocker was watching one of the " baby fuzz " fine hairs that

I've been seeing in the bath scum actually detach from between my

fingers - exactly like a staple. It raised out of the skin with 2

ends coming up & a horizontal between them. When fully out, it

relaxed into a baby hair.

What the heck is that??

More like it came out as curlicues - single hairs with a loop in the

middle. A number of gold and some white pearls emerged. Half a dozen

tiny white worms...and one tiny gnat fly came to the surface, too.

Caught all the interlopers thus revealed & must say I am actually

gratified. Knew the debris in the bath had to be coming from me. To

see their individual exits from my skin was ultimately validating.

(Still have no real clue to the individual identities of this motley

crew. " Wire worm " came to mind for the hair-like imposter. Turned up

Haemonchus on a search & will pursue as time allows. Hoping it's

organic & not manmade - looks like a hair - what a disguise, who'd

suspect? Been offline for a few days while our cable was out...)

On my third day of trying this approach, letting the soap dry &

leaving on till the next day's bath. Minimal crawl on my face & neck,

instantly relieved by a little more soap on the spot.

The New Hope soap is the least expensive of the esp botanicals line

at only $7 a pop:

http://www.espbotanicals.com/main_line_new_hope.html

So now we know another way to prove to an unbeliever that you've got

something invading your skin - soap up, let dry & behold the circus!

Like you, my scalp & all from the neck up has been the worst for me.

So the same evening I began this alternate use of the soap, I tried

the Lice routine from her website, also at the link directly above.

Used her esp organic shampoo followed by the body balm (took half the

jar) to scalp & hair. Left on twice as long as she states & wrapped

with saran, since I'm not using any cotton towels at this stage.

Washed out & flea combed my hair but couldn't quite get all the balm

out. Fine - left the remainder so I have sort of a gel style that

lets me comb it through easily. Also covered my head with a Buzz Off

kerchief (the cheapest product in that line - $7?) just to prevent

any re-attack. No scalp itch for 3 days - a record for me!

Consequently, minimal face crawls stopped by more soap suds. This is

great!

When I ordered the New Hope kit, shampoo & lip balm (for $129) had

asked for Rush delivery (overnight). Received a very thoughtful email

that they were temporarily out of a couple of the ingredients but

would send it along shortly. Took a week to arrive, but the overnite

charge was 1/3 less than the website calculated. And they tucked in

$110 of extras - serum, spray, shampoo & lip balm. Poor business

sense but great people & products! The instructions for the spray are

to apply when going outdoors - but you know I'm wearing it indoors.

It's pretty stinky but potent. One spray on any area is plenty &

shield your eyes if you spray your face.

With my scalp now off-limits to predation, my energy level's almost

normal again. What a relief in every sense. Been conducting some

serious hunt & eliminate manuevers...

Know you'll love the esp, Pamela! Best wishes, Sue

I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program, since I am at a healing

plateau with not much more coming out of my skin.

I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on my chest, stomach,

and torso. They do not seem to be going away or getting better. In

fact, I seem to be getting more of them, even while I experience

less of the biting and crawling. They are not itchy or causing

lesions, but I know that they were not on my skin before this!

Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they make those tiny red

spots come off your skin, too, or do you still have them on your

bodies?

The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising.

Although we do not have a hot tub.

Sue and and others, is that pulling the red spots out of your

skin?

Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to pour on your eyes

ESP Botanicals, or was it something else?

Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.

Many thanks all,

P~

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Thanks, Z!

I would love to return to eating fruit!

I thought it was off-limits for us, and

the biting was always so bad when I did.

Also, what exactly is a ph buffer?

Many thanks,

P~

From: bird mites [mailto:bird mites ] On Behalf Of zmooks

Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008

10:49 PM

bird mites

Subject: Re: ESP

Botanicals & Diet

Pamela

She always sends a copy of the diet with her products.

I loosely follow the ph diet

basically I eat Lots of fruits and vegetables (not potatoes)

lots of yogurt, cottage cheese, chicken.

limit grains, meat (red in particular), dairy (except those

mentioned) and starchy veges.

basically its not a diet where you are not allowed to eat these

foods, its just a diet where you should eat them in a ratio of 80/20.

If you dont want to follow the diet, or you cant, you can just buy a

buffer ph instead. You can also take baking soda mixed in water to

help ph your system.

z

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program,

since I

am

> at

> > a

> > > > > > healing plateau

> > > > > > > with not much more coming out of my skin.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am most concerned about these tiny red

spots on my

> > chest,

> > > > > > stomach, and

> > > > > > > torso. They do not seem to be going away or

getting

> > better.

> > > In

> > > > > > fact, I seem

> > > > > > > to be getting more of them, even while I

experience

less

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > biting and

> > > > > > > crawling. They are not itchy or causing

lesions, but I

> > know

> > > > that

> > > > > > they were

> > > > > > > not on my skin before this!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Z, Lou, and others using the products, did

they make

> those

> > > > tiny

> > > > > > red spots

> > > > > > > come off your skin, too, or do you still

have them on

> your

> > > > > bodies?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The dead sea salt routine also sounds

promising.

Although

> > we

> > > > do

> > > > > > not have a

> > > > > > > hot tub.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sue and and others, is that pulling

the red

spots

> > out

> > > > of

> > > > > > your skin?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you

used to pour

on

> > > your

> > > > > > eyes ESP

> > > > > > > Botanicals, or was it something else?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Many thanks all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > P~

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Hi Sue,

I am so happy for you! Three days is so fantastic!

I am so glad that you are on the mend.

(Although I have to admit that the phrase “a

mite chew toy” was pretty funny, I wouldn’t wish that on anyone!)

I got the soaps and teas in the mail

today. Thanks for everyone’s suggestions and reports.

Sounds like I need that Buzz off kerchief.

I got the New Hope kit plus the shampoo, but not the

lip balm.

How do you like the lip balm?

Many thanks for your in-depth email,

I have seen the loopy hairs, too!

Which soap do you use when you feel crawly

on your face?

As I write I am wrapped in saran wrap with

the body balm on my hair!

It smells great!

~Pamela

From: bird mites [mailto:bird mites ] On Behalf Of Sue

Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008

5:15 PM

bird mites

Subject: Re: ESP

Botanicals & Diet

Hi, Pamela! The info on diet is here:

http://www.espbotanicals.com/news_ph_correct_diet_.html

Couldn't find it on her homepage, either. Trisha seems to be working

on her webpages - you can always search " diet " , which is how I

located it.

Someone said they used the esp routine twice a day & I've only been

using it once. So I checked the instructions that came with the New

Hope set. They didn't mention how often a day to use

them. But I did

notice the alternate instructions:

" For Ulcerations and Persons who have crawling, itching and Biting

sensations. We have some recommended feedback from sufferers. Apply

soap and water to skin and let dry on skin for 24 hours, like a

masque,

jVB

b8-=athe

in 1 cup of Epsom salts with added 1/4 cup borax and

1/4 cup Arm and Hammer Baking soda then shower off and apply the soap

again for 24 hours, do this for 2-3 days, then apply balm or Serum

for 2 days. Then repeat Steps above. "

So I tried that tack, substituting my Instant Ocean

baths for the

Epsom salt, borax & baking soda bath, then soaping up in the shower

afterwards. Normally I let it dry the 5 minutes, rinsed it off & put

on the body balm. This time I didn't rinse the soap & skipped the

balm entirely accordingly. Too chilly letting the soap dry so I could

dress - used the hairdryer trick.

And - got to watch as an assortment detached from my skin into the

soap residue! Maybe a dozen mites, and not from red spots, either.

Makes me think they have to be in place a bit before they cause the

spot effect...

But the shocker was watching one of the " baby fuzz " fine hairs that

I've been seeing in the bath scum actually detach from between my

fingers - exactly like a staple. It raised out of the skin with 2

ends coming up & a horizontal between them. When fully out, it

relaxed into a baby hair.

What the heck is that??

More like it came out as curlicues - single hairs with a loop in the

middle. A number of gold and some white pearls emerged. Half a dozen

tiny white worms...and one tiny gnat fly came to the surface, too.

Caught all the interlopers thus revealed & must say I am actually

gratified. Knew the debris in the bath had to be coming from me. To

see their individual exits from my skin was ultimately validating.

(Still have no real clue to the individual identities of this motley

crew. " Wire worm " came to mind for the hair-like imposter. Turned up

Haemonchus on a search & will pursue as time allows. Hoping it's

organic & not manmade - looks like a hair - what a disguise, who'd

suspect? Been offline for a few days while our cable was out...)

On my third day of trying this approach, letting the soap dry &

leaving on till the next day's bath. Minimal crawl on my face & neck,

instantly relieved by a little more soap on the spot.

The New Hope

soap is the least expensive of the esp botanicals line

at only $7 a pop:

http://www.espbotanicals.com/main_line_new_hope.html

So now we know another way to prove to an unbeliever that you've got

something invading your skin - soap up, let dry & behold the circus!

Like you, my scalp & all from the neck up has been the worst for me.

So the same evening I began this alternate use of the soap, I tried

the Lice routine from her website, also at the link directly above.

Used her esp organic shampoo followed by the body balm (took half the

jar) to scalp & hair. Left on twice as long as she states & wrapped

with saran, since I'm not using any cotton towels at this stage.

Washed out & flea combed my hair but couldn't quite get all the balm

out. Fine - left the remainder so I have sort of a gel style that

lets me comb it through easily. Also covered my head with a Buzz Off

kerchief (the cheapest product in that line - $7?) just to prevent

any re-attack. No scalp itch for 3 days - a record for me!

Consequently, minimal face crawls stopped by more soap suds. This is

great!

When I ordered the New Hope

kit, shampoo & lip balm (for $129) had

asked for Rush delivery (overnight). Received a very thoughtful email

that they were temporarily out of a couple of the ingredients but

would send it along shortly. Took a week to arrive, but the overnite

charge was 1/3 less than the website calculated. And they tucked in

$110 of extras - serum, spray, shampoo & lip balm. Poor business

sense but great people & products! The instructions for the spray are

to apply when going outdoors - but you know I'm wearing it indoors.

It's pretty stinky but potent. One spray on any area is plenty &

shield your eyes if you spray your face.

With my scalp now off-limits to predation, my energy level's almost

normal again. What a relief in every sense. Been conducting some

serious hunt & eliminate manuevers...

Know you'll love the esp, Pamela! Best wishes, Sue

I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program, since I am at a healing

plateau with not much more coming out of my skin.

I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on my chest, stomach,

and torso. They do not seem to be going away or getting better. In

fact, I seem to be getting more of them, even while I experience

less of the biting and crawling. They are not itchy or causing

lesions, but I know that they were not on my skin before this!

Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they make those tiny red

spots come off your skin, too, or do you still have them on your

bodies?

The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising.

Although we do not have a hot tub.

Sue and and others, is that pulling the red spots out of your

skin?

Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to pour on your eyes

ESP Botanicals, or was it something else?

Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.

Many thanks all,

P~

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Pamela

I have switched diets, I did do the lyme diet for about 4 months and

it was very good I think, BUT I just didnt feel very healthy, for

some reason....I think it was all the meat eatting.....

So I switched tactics to the ph diet. and I have the same good

results....how ever I dont have the 'mites' now, so perhaps you

could use a buffer instead if you are worried. A ph buffer is just

a supplement in pill form which puts your body in an alkaline

state...disease is said to not be able to survive in a body which is

alkaline.

and Sue, you know I am so happy to have read your email. I have

used these products for 9 months now, and when I began using them

the instructions did say to put them on twice a day.....which I have

been religiously doing, not realizing that this is all still a work

in progress and that there is another (cheaper!!!!) way to apply

them.

So I am so happy you wrote that, as its terrific stuff, but I do go

through it really fast....I will be putting more of an emphasis on

the soap from now on....

As for those 'hairs' that seem to have a life of their own when they

emerge from your skin....I have seen those too....I hope to never

see anything like that again.....:)

anyway I am so happy that you have had some good days, and may be

onto something great with your new found application method

z

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program, since I

> am

> > at

> > > a

> > > > > > > healing plateau

> > > > > > > > with not much more coming out of my skin.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on my

> > > chest,

> > > > > > > stomach, and

> > > > > > > > torso. They do not seem to be going away or getting

> > > better.

> > > > In

> > > > > > > fact, I seem

> > > > > > > > to be getting more of them, even while I experience

> less

> > > of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > biting and

> > > > > > > > crawling. They are not itchy or causing lesions, but

I

> > > know

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > they were

> > > > > > > > not on my skin before this!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they make

> > those

> > > > > tiny

> > > > > > > red spots

> > > > > > > > come off your skin, too, or do you still have them

on

> > your

> > > > > > bodies?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising.

> Although

> > > we

> > > > > do

> > > > > > > not have a

> > > > > > > > hot tub.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sue and and others, is that pulling the red

> spots

> > > out

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > your skin?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to

pour

> on

> > > > your

> > > > > > > eyes ESP

> > > > > > > > Botanicals, or was it something else?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Many thanks all,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > P~

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Sue,

You have a lot of knowledge on the ESP Botanicals products. I am just wondering if you know wether or not the soap will get rid of those little red pin pricks that Pamala had mentioned. I have been using the bentonite clay and it has helped with the large pimple things that I broke out in last month. The clay even pulled out mites that were in them. But those little red pin prick ones aren't going away. If you or any one else has further knowledge on the subject suggestions are much appriciated.

Thanks,

Jeannine.

From: Sue <sue@...>Subject: Re: ESP Botanicals & Dietbird mites Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 3:15 PM

Hi, Pamela! The info on diet is here:http://www.espbotan icals.com/ news_ph_correct_ diet_.htmlCouldn't find it on her homepage, either. Trisha seems to be working on her webpages - you can always search "diet" , which is how I located it.Someone said they used the esp routine twice a day & I've only been using it once. So I checked the instructions that came with the New Hope set. They didn't mention how often a day to use them. But I did notice the alternate instructions:"For Ulcerations and Persons who have crawling, itching and Biting sensations. We have some recommended feedback from sufferers. Apply soap and water to skin and let dry on skin for 24 hours, like a masque, bathe in 1 cup of Epsom salts with added 1/4 cup borax and 1/4 cup Arm and Hammer Baking soda then shower off

and apply the soap again for 24 hours, do this for 2-3 days, then apply balm or Serum for 2 days. Then repeat Steps above."So I tried that tack, substituting my Instant Ocean baths for the Epsom salt, borax & baking soda bath, then soaping up in the shower afterwards. Normally I let it dry the 5 minutes, rinsed it off & put on the body balm. This time I didn't rinse the soap & skipped the balm entirely accordingly. Too chilly letting the soap dry so I could dress - used the hairdryer trick.And - got to watch as an assortment detached from my skin into the soap residue! Maybe a dozen mites, and not from red spots, either. Makes me think they have to be in place a bit before they cause the spot effect...But the shocker was watching one of the "baby fuzz" fine hairs that I've been seeing in the bath scum actually detach from between my fingers - exactly like a staple. It

raised out of the skin with 2 ends coming up & a horizontal between them. When fully out, it relaxed into a baby hair. What the heck is that??More like it came out as curlicues - single hairs with a loop in the middle. A number of gold and some white pearls emerged. Half a dozen tiny white worms...and one tiny gnat fly came to the surface, too.Caught all the interlopers thus revealed & must say I am actually gratified. Knew the debris in the bath had to be coming from me. To see their individual exits from my skin was ultimately validating.(Still have no real clue to the individual identities of this motley crew. "Wire worm" came to mind for the hair-like imposter. Turned upHaemonchus on a search & will pursue as time allows. Hoping it's organic & not manmade - looks like a hair - what a disguise, who'd suspect? Been offline for a few days while our cable was

out...)On my third day of trying this approach, letting the soap dry & leaving on till the next day's bath. Minimal crawl on my face & neck, instantly relieved by a little more soap on the spot.The New Hope soap is the least expensive of the esp botanicals line at only $7 a pop:http://www.espbotan icals.com/ main_line_ new_hope. htmlSo now we know another way to prove to an unbeliever that you've got something invading your skin - soap up, let dry & behold the circus!Like you, my scalp & all from the neck up has been the worst for me. So the same evening I began this alternate use of the soap, I tried the Lice routine from her website, also at the link directly above. Used her esp organic shampoo followed by the body balm (took half the jar) to scalp & hair. Left on

twice as long as she states & wrapped with saran, since I'm not using any cotton towels at this stage. Washed out & flea combed my hair but couldn't quite get all the balm out. Fine - left the remainder so I have sort of a gel style that lets me comb it through easily. Also covered my head with a Buzz Off kerchief (the cheapest product in that line - $7?) just to prevent any re-attack. No scalp itch for 3 days - a record for me! Consequently, minimal face crawls stopped by more soap suds. This is great!When I ordered the New Hope kit, shampoo & lip balm (for $129) had asked for Rush delivery (overnight). Received a very thoughtful email that they were temporarily out of a couple of the ingredients but would send it along shortly. Took a week to arrive, but the overnite charge was 1/3 less than the website calculated. And they tucked in $110 of extras - serum, spray, shampoo &

lip balm. Poor business sense but great people & products! The instructions for the spray are to apply when going outdoors - but you know I'm wearing it indoors. It's pretty stinky but potent. One spray on any area is plenty & shield your eyes if you spray your face.With my scalp now off-limits to predation, my energy level's almost normal again. What a relief in every sense. Been conducting some serious hunt & eliminate manuevers...Know you'll love the esp, Pamela! Best wishes, SueI am considering the ESP Botanicals Program, since I am at a healing plateau with not much more coming out of my skin.I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on my chest, stomach, and torso. They do not seem to be going away or getting better. In fact, I seem to be getting more of them, even while I experience less of the biting and crawling. They are not itchy or causing lesions,

but I know that they were not on my skin before this!Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they make those tiny red spots come off your skin, too, or do you still have them on your bodies?The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising. Although we do not have a hot tub.Sue and and others, is that pulling the red spots out of your skin?Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to pour on your eyes ESP Botanicals, or was it something else?Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.Many thanks all,P~

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Hi, Jeannine! Yes, the esp botanicals New Hope soap will heal the

little red pinprick spots - more quickly if left on to dry & remain

as in the " alternate method " combined with the Epsom salt, borax &

baking soda baths or salt baths - but used by itself, too.

My experience with these products is limited to the last 3 weeks,

unlike the real experts here who've used them for extended periods.

Haven't even gotten around to using the Lotion in a Bar that came

with the set. Just can't help raving on about them...

My favorites are the soap & the Serum. ESP Serum is pricey at $59 for

2 liquid ounces, but goes much further on wet skin than the New Hope

Body Balm (one drop does an arm) for the same price & is better on my

face & neck, being lighter & more easily absorbed. Can actually feel

it penetrating deeply & love the combo scent of the ingredients.

Leaves my skin so silky & relieved - such a contrast to the tight

textured surface the mite damage causes. The first time applying it

to thighs & back rolled off a top layer of something (biofilm?) that

turned to crumbs that literally fell away from me. (Good thing I was

standing on paper towels discarded afterwards.) Serum is great rubbed

on the scalp, too, applied to a single crawl or bite or massaged in

all over, without affecting my hair except for a light gloss near the

roots.

The Body Balm is wonderful, too, but takes much longer for me to

apply & leaves a waxy feel I like less than the smooth of the Serum.

Since I have them both, I'm alternating them.

Soaped up face & neck yesterday in the bath & used one of those

magnifying make-up mirrors to watch the soap dry. (So easily amused

lately!) With the aid of the mirror, could see lots more stuff

emerging that was invisible otherwise. Tore a paper towel into tiny

bits & enjoyed dispatching every one wiped off. Then did my arms,

then legs - a really long but productive bath - using the magnifying

mirror to catch a small army. Entire hordes died in the scum along

the bathtub water line. There must be millions of these...must agree

the only good one is a gone one.

Enjoying the shampoo - unlike any organic I've used. Two pumps does

the trick & I don't even need to follow with a conditioner for my

thick but fine long hair.

And Pamela, love the lip balm! Only need to apply it a couple times a

day. Very slight sheen to it, and absolutely no scumming, unlike

other beeswax balms I've tried. The New Hope soap is the one I mean

to wet & rub on an itch, crawl or bite - only soap I'm using now.

How's your scalp doing since the Balm & saran treatment?

These products are so unique. No wonder they're patented. Each has an

individual purpose that I'm only beginning to understand.

Best wishes, Sue

I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program, since I am at a healing

plateau with not much more coming out of my skin.

I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on my chest, stomach,

and torso. They do not seem to be going away or getting better. In

fact, I seem to be getting more of them, even while I experience

less of the biting and crawling. They are not itchy or causing

lesions, but I know that they were not on my skin before this!

Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they make those tiny red

spots come off your skin, too, or do you still have them on your

bodies?

The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising.

Although we do not have a hot tub.

Sue and and others, is that pulling the red spots out of your

skin?

Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to pour on your eyes

ESP Botanicals, or was it something else?

Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.

Many thanks all,

P~

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Feel the same way sue, great products. Im a male and you know us guys

don't like to use lotions and what not. But honestly that esp new hope

skin products hydrated my skin I think the best they ever been in my

life! The small bar lotion I've had as a little skin eraser, that I pull

out when I get a little blemish or bums and take the whole bar a rub it

on the affected are and walla days later gone. I been getting

compliments of the soft sweet smell too. I've yet to do the full body

application and leave over night, going to try tonight and see how it

goes. But all in all the esp new hope line seriously is a good deal for

anyone.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 4:32 pm, Sue wrote:

> Hi, Jeannine! Yes, the esp botanicals New Hope soap will heal the

> little red pinprick spots - more quickly if left on to dry & remain

> as in the " alternate method " combined with the Epsom salt, borax &

> baking soda baths or salt baths - but used by itself, too.

>

> My experience with these products is limited to the last 3 weeks,

> unlike the real experts here who've used them for extended periods.

> Haven't even gotten around to using the Lotion in a Bar that came

> with the set. Just can't help raving on about them...

>

> My favorites are the soap & the Serum. ESP Serum is pricey at $59 for

> 2 liquid ounces, but goes much further on wet skin than the New Hope

> Body Balm (one drop does an arm) for the same price & is better on my

> face & neck, being lighter & more easily absorbed. Can actually feel

> it penetrating deeply & love the combo scent of the ingredients.

> Leaves my skin so silky & relieved - such a contrast to the tight

> textured surface the mite damage causes. The first time applying it

> to thighs & back rolled off a top layer of something (biofilm?) that

> turned to crumbs that literally fell away from me. (Good thing I was

> standing on paper towels discarded afterwards.) Serum is great rubbed

> on the scalp, too, applied to a single crawl or bite or massaged in

> all over, without affecting my hair except for a light gloss near the

> roots.

>

> The Body Balm is wonderful, too, but takes much longer for me to

> apply & leaves a waxy feel I like less than the smooth of the Serum.

> Since I have them both, I'm alternating them.

>

> Soaped up face & neck yesterday in the bath & used one of those

> magnifying make-up mirrors to watch the soap dry. (So easily amused

> lately!) With the aid of the mirror, could see lots more stuff

> emerging that was invisible otherwise. Tore a paper towel into tiny

> bits & enjoyed dispatching every one wiped off. Then did my arms,

> then legs - a really long but productive bath - using the magnifying

> mirror to catch a small army. Entire hordes died in the scum along

> the bathtub water line. There must be millions of these...must agree

> the only good one is a gone one.

>

> Enjoying the shampoo - unlike any organic I've used. Two pumps does

> the trick & I don't even need to follow with a conditioner for my

> thick but fine long hair.

>

> And Pamela, love the lip balm! Only need to apply it a couple times a

> day. Very slight sheen to it, and absolutely no scumming, unlike

> other beeswax balms I've tried. The New Hope soap is the one I mean

> to wet & rub on an itch, crawl or bite - only soap I'm using now.

> How's your scalp doing since the Balm & saran treatment?

>

> These products are so unique. No wonder they're patented. Each has an

> individual purpose that I'm only beginning to understand.

>

> Best wishes, Sue

>

>

>

> I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program, since I am at a healing

> plateau with not much more coming out of my skin.

>

> I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on my chest, stomach,

> and torso. They do not seem to be going away or getting better. In

> fact, I seem to be getting more of them, even while I experience

> less of the biting and crawling. They are not itchy or causing

> lesions, but I know that they were not on my skin before this!

>

> Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they make those tiny red

> spots come off your skin, too, or do you still have them on your

> bodies?

>

> The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising.

> Although we do not have a hot tub.

>

> Sue and and others, is that pulling the red spots out of your

> skin?

>

> Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to pour on your eyes

> ESP Botanicals, or was it something else?

>

> Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.

> Many thanks all,

> P~

>

>

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Hey there Sue,Thanks for the advice on the soap. I am so broke from all of this I could only afford the soap this month so it may be a while before I can get the shampoo or even the serum. Hopefully the soap will be enough to do the trick. I have been using bentonite clay and that gets rid of the pimply things with the bugs in them but I am wondering if the soap will bring more stuff out of my skin. It would also be nice to get rid of the damages completely.Thanks again,Jeannine.From: Sue <sue@...>Subject: Re: ESP Botanicals & Dietbird mites Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 4:32 PM

Hi, Jeannine! Yes, the esp botanicals New Hope soap will heal the

little red pinprick spots - more quickly if left on to dry & remain

as in the "alternate method" combined with the Epsom salt, borax &

baking soda baths or salt baths - but used by itself, too.

My experience with these products is limited to the last 3 weeks,

unlike the real experts here who've used them for extended periods.

Haven't even gotten around to using the Lotion in a Bar that came

with the set. Just can't help raving on about them...

My favorites are the soap & the Serum. ESP Serum is pricey at $59 for

2 liquid ounces, but goes much further on wet skin than the New Hope

Body Balm (one drop does an arm) for the same price & is better on my

face & neck, being lighter & more easily absorbed. Can actually feel

it penetrating deeply & love the combo scent of the ingredients.

Leaves my skin so silky & relieved - such a contrast to the tight

textured surface the mite damage causes. The first time applying it

to thighs & back rolled off a top layer of something (biofilm?) that

turned to crumbs that literally fell away from me. (Good thing I was

standing on paper towels discarded afterwards.) Serum is great rubbed

on the scalp, too, applied to a single crawl or bite or massaged in

all over, without affecting my hair except for a light gloss near the

roots.

The Body Balm is wonderful, too, but takes much longer for me to

apply & leaves a waxy feel I like less than the smooth of the Serum.

Since I have them both, I'm alternating them.

Soaped up face & neck yesterday in the bath & used one of those

magnifying make-up mirrors to watch the soap dry. (So easily amused

lately!) With the aid of the mirror, could see lots more stuff

emerging that was invisible otherwise. Tore a paper towel into tiny

bits & enjoyed dispatching every one wiped off. Then did my arms,

then legs - a really long but productive bath - using the magnifying

mirror to catch a small army. Entire hordes died in the scum along

the bathtub water line. There must be millions of these...must agree

the only good one is a gone one.

Enjoying the shampoo - unlike any organic I've used. Two pumps does

the trick & I don't even need to follow with a conditioner for my

thick but fine long hair.

And Pamela, love the lip balm! Only need to apply it a couple times a

day. Very slight sheen to it, and absolutely no scumming, unlike

other beeswax balms I've tried. The New Hope soap is the one I mean

to wet & rub on an itch, crawl or bite - only soap I'm using now.

How's your scalp doing since the Balm & saran treatment?

These products are so unique. No wonder they're patented. Each has an

individual purpose that I'm only beginning to understand.

Best wishes, Sue

I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program, since I am at a healing

plateau with not much more coming out of my skin.

I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on my chest, stomach,

and torso. They do not seem to be going away or getting better. In

fact, I seem to be getting more of them, even while I experience

less of the biting and crawling. They are not itchy or causing

lesions, but I know that they were not on my skin before this!

Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they make those tiny red

spots come off your skin, too, or do you still have them on your

bodies?

The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising.

Although we do not have a hot tub.

Sue and and others, is that pulling the red spots out of your

skin?

Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to pour on your eyes

ESP Botanicals, or was it something else?

Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.

Many thanks all,

P~

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That oil and bar of soap is all you really need jeannine, I wet a loafa

and give like a good 4 scrapes with the bar turn of water and scrub my

body head to toe and stand waiting in shower for 4^ mins as recommended

and I can feel the little bastards poppin off me like popcorn no b.s.

Then I wash off walk out shower still naked in sandals to bed room and

rub on there oil or serum on body wet. From having to shake my legs and

constantly scrape at back legs and thighs and arms, this routine has

helped me to keep the bitting down to very minimal were I get bites that

are from the young ones I missed but there bites are so minimal its hard

for me to even decipher if it was a mite or my own delusions. That's how

good this has helped me. Along with the tea tree oil in spray bottle of

killer spritz that I just mist over corners and hampers, dehumidifier at

35%, defusser with menthol and my meds and supplements.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 8:42 pm, jeannine allaire wrote:

> Hey there Sue,

> Thanks for the advice on the soap. I am so broke from all of this I

> could only afford the soap this month so it may be a while before I can

> get the shampoo or even the serum. Hopefully the soap will be enough to

> do the trick. I have been using bentonite clay and that gets rid of the

> pimply things with the bugs in them but I am wondering if the soap will

> bring more stuff out of my skin. It would also be nice to get rid of

> the damages completely.

> Thanks again,

> Jeannine.

>

>

>> From: Sue <sue@...>

>> Subject: Re: ESP Botanicals & Diet

>> bird mites

>> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 4:32 PM

>>

>> Hi, Jeannine! Yes, the esp botanicals New Hope soap will heal the

>> little red pinprick spots - more quickly if left on to dry & remain

>> as in the " alternate method " combined with the Epsom salt, borax &

>> baking soda baths or salt baths - but used by itself, too.

>>

>> My experience with these products is limited to the last 3 weeks,

>> unlike the real experts here who've used them for extended periods.

>> Haven't even gotten around to using the Lotion in a Bar that came

>> with the set. Just can't help raving on about them...

>>

>> My favorites are the soap & the Serum. ESP Serum is pricey at $59 for

>> 2 liquid ounces, but goes much further on wet skin than the New Hope

>> Body Balm (one drop does an arm) for the same price & is better on my

>> face & neck, being lighter & more easily absorbed. Can actually feel

>> it penetrating deeply & love the combo scent of the ingredients.

>> Leaves my skin so silky & relieved - such a contrast to the tight

>> textured surface the mite damage causes. The first time applying it

>> to thighs & back rolled off a top layer of something (biofilm?) that

>> turned to crumbs that literally fell away from me. (Good thing I was

>> standing on paper towels discarded afterwards.) Serum is great rubbed

>> on the scalp, too, applied to a single crawl or bite or massaged in

>> all over, without affecting my hair except for a light gloss near the

>> roots.

>>

>> The Body Balm is wonderful, too, but takes much longer for me to

>> apply & leaves a waxy feel I like less than the smooth of the Serum.

>> Since I have them both, I'm alternating them.

>>

>> Soaped up face & neck yesterday in the bath & used one of those

>> magnifying make-up mirrors to watch the soap dry. (So easily amused

>> lately!) With the aid of the mirror, could see lots more stuff

>> emerging that was invisible otherwise. Tore a paper towel into tiny

>> bits & enjoyed dispatching every one wiped off. Then did my arms,

>> then legs - a really long but productive bath - using the magnifying

>> mirror to catch a small army. Entire hordes died in the scum along

>> the bathtub water line. There must be millions of these...must agree

>> the only good one is a gone one.

>>

>> Enjoying the shampoo - unlike any organic I've used. Two pumps does

>> the trick & I don't even need to follow with a conditioner for my

>> thick but fine long hair.

>>

>> And Pamela, love the lip balm! Only need to apply it a couple times a

>> day. Very slight sheen to it, and absolutely no scumming, unlike

>> other beeswax balms I've tried. The New Hope soap is the one I mean

>> to wet & rub on an itch, crawl or bite - only soap I'm using now.

>> How's your scalp doing since the Balm & saran treatment?

>>

>> These products are so unique. No wonder they're patented. Each has an

>> individual purpose that I'm only beginning to understand.

>>

>> Best wishes, Sue

>>

>>

>>

>> I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program, since I am at a healing

>> plateau with not much more coming out of my skin.

>>

>> I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on my chest, stomach,

>> and torso. They do not seem to be going away or getting better. In

>> fact, I seem to be getting more of them, even while I experience

>> less of the biting and crawling. They are not itchy or causing

>> lesions, but I know that they were not on my skin before this!

>>

>> Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they make those tiny red

>> spots come off your skin, too, or do you still have them on your

>> bodies?

>>

>> The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising.

>> Although we do not have a hot tub.

>>

>> Sue and and others, is that pulling the red spots out of your

>> skin?

>>

>> Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to pour on your eyes

>> ESP Botanicals, or was it something else?

>>

>> Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.

>> Many thanks all,

>> P~

>

>

Adam

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Adam

Your post made me laugh. Because your reaction to these products is

just the same as my husbands. He loves them, and is a huge believer

in their 'goodness' and healing power, he also loves their natural

smell, which is cute and funny at the same time coming from my man.

I also know what you mean about applying the bar to the bumps that

used to come up, it always flattened them almost immediately and

they were gone the next day.

z

> >

> > I am considering the ESP Botanicals Program, since I am at a

healing

> > plateau with not much more coming out of my skin.

> >

> > I am most concerned about these tiny red spots on my chest,

stomach,

> > and torso. They do not seem to be going away or getting better.

In

> > fact, I seem to be getting more of them, even while I experience

> > less of the biting and crawling. They are not itchy or causing

> > lesions, but I know that they were not on my skin before this!

> >

> > Z, Lou, and others using the products, did they make those tiny

red

> > spots come off your skin, too, or do you still have them on your

> > bodies?

> >

> > The dead sea salt routine also sounds promising.

> > Although we do not have a hot tub.

> >

> > Sue and and others, is that pulling the red spots out of

your

> > skin?

> >

> > Sue, was the tea that you brewed that you used to pour on your

eyes

> > ESP Botanicals, or was it something else?

> >

> > Sorry, brain fog is pretty bad today.

> > Many thanks all,

> > P~

> >

> >

> Adam

> Rumblers C.C.

> www.myspace.com/irishbandido

>

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