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I sometimes have trouble with the 'tone' of how several persons write

on this forum, but I don't blame them (or myself for that matter).

I am not sure, but till now I have seen that Kate is used to ask her

questions straight away and she is very precise in language and about

spelling. To me that seems like an Asperger-thing of her. She is

accurate about those kind of things and wants things to be written

correctly because than she can see if she understood well what was

written.

My question in all this is : what is meant by ESP?

>

>

> Its in the way you ask Kate, You imply stupidity on the behalf of

the other person, the way you phrase things imply that you think your

superior to everyone else in the group and that the rest of us are

too stupid to talk to you. You don't come out and say your confused

or misunderstand you say things like these words don't exist. You

take fault with everything that other people say and nit pick on

semantics in a mean (perceived) way not asking for clarification.

Maybe if you tried being a little nicer with the way you ask for

things it wouldn't come off as you picking on people. I see your

posts and Ignore them most of the time, I don't even take the time to

read them because I don't want to get angry at the way you write. In

effect I don't read most of your posts, your style of writing has

caused me to turn you off.

>

> Beth

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" My question in all this is : what is meant by ESP? "

Kate ought to be able to answer this for you, but I will, since I am

here:

ESP = Extra Sensory Perception

Tom

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Thank you!

.... starting re-reading the posts using 'ESP' to understand better : )

>

> " My question in all this is : what is meant by ESP? "

>

> Kate ought to be able to answer this for you, but I will, since I am

> here:

>

> ESP = Extra Sensory Perception

>

> Tom

> Administrator

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That is some good info Z. And it is true that using pyrethines is a useless endevor against these buggers. If using a flea bomb drives them into the carcks for 2 days until they are ready to go crazy again then it must be true that it would do the same when applied to skin. I tried the flea bombs and I used sevin dust on my carpets (same active ingrediant) it is true it doesn't work. When reading about bird mites that is how I found out about Bifitherin which is the only pesticide on the market I have found kills them. Not that I am suggesting any one put this on there skin. Just saying the use of pesticides in general on the 8 legged vampires.

From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker@...>Subject: ESPbird mites Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 10:29 AM

So I got my new order from Trisha (as I had run out) and after unboxing all the extras that she kindly sent too, I thought that perhaps she might like to know how people on this forum are finding her products so I sent her a link to the esp thread. I thought this email from her would be of interest to some on this forump.s. she brings up an interesting topic, has anyone else experience the magnetic feeling she mentions? I know that at the height of this I would get electric shocks from absolutely everything.. ..really hard ones from the car door when I went to open it.....I wonder if that was part of this.From the looks at the Birdmites website, thank you for talking about the products. Who would have ever thought this stuff would work on Mites??? Go Figure. Dr Kolbs Suggestions are on my website, they are just suggestions. People need to realize that the chemicals they are putting

on their body in the form of pyrethines.. .such as lindane and kwell with drive this deeper into your body. Also another interesting thing to note is that anything based in proplyls ie. isoproypl alcohol, proyplene glycol (transmission fluid) will feed these monsters. People need to start reading their labels. No perfumes should be used, this syndrome is highly magnetic, many people have been saying, "I feel like pigpen in Charlie Brown, I attract everything to my body."I believe after listening to hundreds of sufferers the the body somehow has to be demagnatized, from its polar state. Hulda in her book a cure for all Cancers talks about the use of a Zapper that people can put on their wrists, this can help but I think if we can clean up the environment, the skin and use safe internals, we are one step ahead of the game. Chemicals are cheap to make and sell, one ingredient in the

patent is 1600.00 a pound, the butters have all gone up in price so if it is costly its because it costs a lot to make this. LOL I know many persons question the pricing, but believe it, I don't make a whole heck of a lot on this stuff, especially if you look at the fact that I formulate it, package it and ship it. I do have some sufferers who volunteer to help me and that is a Godsend. I have been fighting against the use of chemicals in skin care for over 10 years now and have been working with Skin Deep Org, and Environmental Working Group that questions current poisons on the market. Also with www.certichem. com in regard to the hormonal disruption caused by pesticides, Genetically Modified Foods, plastic jars that companies use to put their skin care in. Z, you are so kind to go on the web and speak about my products, I do appreciate it a lot. I shut down my office and shop in October

of this year due in order to bring the prices down on my products. This saves me 4000.00 per month in overhead and allows me to work out of my home. I have kind of taken a back seat to all the Morgs politics, it is so much more than fibers and everyone is stuck on the fibers. Science is not working quickly enough for me and everyone wants a magic bullet,if there was one I would surely have found it. Right now, I am lying very low and watching like a cat to see what the next MD or PHd pulls our of their hat. Many people don't want to listen to some RN in Florida because I don't have PHd or MD after my name, then my work doesn't count in the "Medical Chemical World"So I just am quietly doing what I do and taking it one person at a time. Love and Light, Trisha

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Jeannine

Yes, I had the horrible experience of the flea bombs too - I think

anyone on here that has used a bomb has had the worst night of their

lives right afterwards :) Its just completely incredible what

these 'things' can with stand....I used enough of those pesticides

to kill me, but it did nothing to them....

How are you going in your battle? Are you making progress with this?

z

>

> From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker@...>

> Subject: ESP

> bird mites

> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 10:29 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> So I got my new order from Trisha (as I had run out) and after

> unboxing all the extras that she kindly sent too, I thought that

> perhaps she might like to know how people on this forum are

finding

> her products so I sent her a link to the esp thread. I thought

this

> email from her would be of interest to some on this forum

>

> p.s. she brings up an interesting topic, has anyone else

experience

> the magnetic feeling she mentions? I know that at the height of

> this I would get electric shocks from absolutely

> everything.. ..really hard ones from the car door when I went to

open

> it.....I wonder if that was part of this.

>

> From the looks at the Birdmites website, thank you for talking

about

> the products.

> Who would have ever thought this stuff would work on Mites??? Go

> Figure.

> Dr Kolbs Suggestions are on my website, they are just suggestions.

> People need to realize that the chemicals they are putting on

their

> body in the form of pyrethines.. .such as lindane and kwell with

> drive this deeper into your body.

> Also another interesting thing to note is that anything based in

> proplyls ie. isoproypl alcohol, proyplene glycol (transmission

> fluid) will feed these monsters.

> People need to start reading their labels.

> No perfumes should be used, this syndrome is highly magnetic, many

> people have been saying, " I feel like pigpen in Charlie Brown, I

> attract everything to my body. "

> I believe after listening to hundreds of sufferers the the body

> somehow has to be demagnatized, from its polar state.

> Hulda in her book a cure for all Cancers talks about the use

> of a Zapper that people can put on their wrists, this can help but

I

> think if we can clean up the environment, the skin and use safe

> internals, we are one step ahead of the game.

> Chemicals are cheap to make and sell, one ingredient in the patent

> is 1600.00 a pound, the butters have all gone up in price so if it

> is costly its because it costs a lot to make this. LOL

> I know many persons question the pricing, but believe it, I don't

> make a whole heck of a lot on this stuff, especially if you look

at

> the fact that I formulate it, package it and ship it. I do have

> some sufferers who volunteer to help me and that is a Godsend.

> I have been fighting against the use of chemicals in skin care for

> over 10 years now and have been working with Skin Deep Org, and

> Environmental Working Group that questions current poisons on the

> market.

> Also with www.certichem. com in regard to the hormonal disruption

> caused by pesticides, Genetically Modified Foods, plastic jars

that

> companies use to put their skin care in.

> Z, you are so kind to go on the web and speak about my products, I

> do appreciate it a lot.

> I shut down my office and shop in October of this year due in

order

> to bring the prices down on my products. This saves me 4000.00 per

> month in overhead and allows me to work out of my home. I have

kind

> of taken a back seat to all the Morgs politics, it is so much more

> than fibers and everyone is stuck on the fibers.

> Science is not working quickly enough for me and everyone wants a

> magic bullet,

> if there was one I would surely have found it.

>

> Right now, I am lying very low and watching like a cat to see what

> the next MD or PHd pulls our of their hat.

> Many people don't want to listen to some RN in Florida because I

> don't have PHd or MD after my name, then my work doesn't count in

> the " Medical Chemical World "

> So I just am quietly doing what I do and taking it one person at a

> time.

>

> Love and Light,

> Trisha

>

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Hi KJ,

Just wanted to say that my balm(and baby's) has lasted a long time

and i spread it on pretty liberally. I put it on over a light layer

of soap, while my skin is still warm and wet from the shower. (before

i dry) Are you putting it on dry skin?

My son did that when we first got the baby balm and used almost half

a jar, i had to show him how to use it. Now he just uses the serum,

because it is easier for him.

Good Luck

Holly

>

> =================================================================

> Hi, my friends,

>

> I sent this email to Trish yesterday

>

> Trish,

> I know you have been asked this question so often you probably

> have a stock answer for it:

>

> I have gone through my New Hope Balm so fast that I have just

> a few days left of it.

>

> How close is your New Hope 2 formula to being ready to sell

> and will it be as hard a formulation or will it (hopefully)

> be easier to spread and go a bit farther?

>

> Is there an organic additive that would aid in that area or

> would any additive interfere with the properties of the

> essential oils?

>

> Would heating the balm (to make it easier to spread) interfere

> with its effectiveness?

>

> Thank you, Trish,

> katiejill

>

> and she said I could share her reply with all of you:

>

> ,

>

> Are you warming the balm up in the palms of your hands

> before using it??

>

> It can not be spread on the skin directly from the jar.

> Don' heat it, it will degrade the oils.

>

> The reason it is so dense is because of the density of

> the butters and the climate when it is cold. You have to

> warm it in your palms first,

>

> You can add some Extravirgin olive oil to it and a bit of

> peppermint. you can add some Olive EXTRA VIRGIN and some

> peppermint to it if you are getting low.

>

> We are two weeks away from being able to even package the

> New Hope 2. We are working on a way to make it a bit softer

> without blending in a blender, which adds air to it and makes

> if fluffy but it lasts far less long, less beeswax and less

> hard butters more oils.

>

> Hope this helps, I can't wait to get the New Herbal Oil Soap

> Soak for the Bath and the New Hope 2 done. I have been

> formulating, tossing it out and finally have the right mix.

>

> [Also, let the soap dry between baths/showers] it is

> organic and [keeping it dry will make it last] longer.

>

> ------------------------------

>

> In a later email she added this info:

>

> Also if you haven't done this yet go to

>

> www.vaxa.com

>

> Order the following [because a] PH of 7-7.35 is crucial:

>

> PH Buffer

> PH strips (for checking ph of urine)

>

> also they have a really good product called

>

> Parasitin

>

> Burn Menthol Chips in your home. Here are two good sources:

>

> www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com

> www.essentialwholesale.com

>

> Sincerely with Prayers for Healing,

> Trisha

>

> =================================================================

>

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The balm goes over very well when the skin is wet... but I was

wondering if that would lessen the penetrating effect of the balm.

With some force and elbow grease, you can use your palms to spread

the balm on dry (non-wet) skin but you do eat up a lot of balm this

way even when trying to conserve.

Is it okay to apply over damp skin?

> >

> > =================================================================

> > Hi, my friends,

> >

> > I sent this email to Trish yesterday

> >

> > Trish,

> > I know you have been asked this question so often you probably

> > have a stock answer for it:

> >

> > I have gone through my New Hope Balm so fast that I have just

> > a few days left of it.

> >

> > How close is your New Hope 2 formula to being ready to sell

> > and will it be as hard a formulation or will it (hopefully)

> > be easier to spread and go a bit farther?

> >

> > Is there an organic additive that would aid in that area or

> > would any additive interfere with the properties of the

> > essential oils?

> >

> > Would heating the balm (to make it easier to spread) interfere

> > with its effectiveness?

> >

> > Thank you, Trish,

> > katiejill

> >

> > and she said I could share her reply with all of you:

> >

> > ,

> >

> > Are you warming the balm up in the palms of your hands

> > before using it??

> >

> > It can not be spread on the skin directly from the jar.

> > Don' heat it, it will degrade the oils.

> >

> > The reason it is so dense is because of the density of

> > the butters and the climate when it is cold. You have to

> > warm it in your palms first,

> >

> > You can add some Extravirgin olive oil to it and a bit of

> > peppermint. you can add some Olive EXTRA VIRGIN and some

> > peppermint to it if you are getting low.

> >

> > We are two weeks away from being able to even package the

> > New Hope 2. We are working on a way to make it a bit softer

> > without blending in a blender, which adds air to it and makes

> > if fluffy but it lasts far less long, less beeswax and less

> > hard butters more oils.

> >

> > Hope this helps, I can't wait to get the New Herbal Oil

Soap

> > Soak for the Bath and the New Hope 2 done. I have been

> > formulating, tossing it out and finally have the right mix.

> >

> > [Also, let the soap dry between baths/showers] it is

> > organic and [keeping it dry will make it last] longer.

> >

> > ------------------------------

> >

> > In a later email she added this info:

> >

> > Also if you haven't done this yet go to

> >

> > www.vaxa.com

> >

> > Order the following [because a] PH of 7-7.35 is crucial:

> >

> > PH Buffer

> > PH strips (for checking ph of urine)

> >

> > also they have a really good product called

> >

> > Parasitin

> >

> > Burn Menthol Chips in your home. Here are two good sources:

> >

> > www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com

> > www.essentialwholesale.com

> >

> > Sincerely with Prayers for Healing,

> > Trisha

> >

> > =================================================================

> >

>

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Put in on warm wet skin right out of the shower without drying

yourself off. It spreads easily then using just a dab on a fingertip

& rubbing it on lightly with your palm in each area, working neck

down or toes up. You can always pat a little more hot water on any

area that dries before you get the hang of it. I do my face last

since I can wet that again easily.

Wet skin doesn't lessen the penetrating effect, just helps the balm

slide on. Don't forget the lotion jar in bar afterwards to seal your

skin. Easy to draw it on in stripes & use your palms to smooth in

lightly.

After that, any more balm you want to apply again rubs in easily on

dry skin & goes right through the lotion bar layer without removing

it.

As your skin improves with the New Hope system (soap, balm & bar), it

becomes continually easier to apply the products, in my experience.

Now they just glide on & liquify with little effort.

Hope this helps! Best wishes, Sue

> > >

> > >

=================================================================

> > > Hi, my friends,

> > >

> > > I sent this email to Trish yesterday

> > >

> > > Trish,

> > > I know you have been asked this question so often you

probably

> > > have a stock answer for it:

> > >

> > > I have gone through my New Hope Balm so fast that I have just

> > > a few days left of it.

> > >

> > > How close is your New Hope 2 formula to being ready to sell

> > > and will it be as hard a formulation or will it (hopefully)

> > > be easier to spread and go a bit farther?

> > >

> > > Is there an organic additive that would aid in that area or

> > > would any additive interfere with the properties of the

> > > essential oils?

> > >

> > > Would heating the balm (to make it easier to spread)

interfere

> > > with its effectiveness?

> > >

> > > Thank you, Trish,

> > > katiejill

> > >

> > > and she said I could share her reply with all of you:

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > Are you warming the balm up in the palms of your hands

> > > before using it??

> > >

> > > It can not be spread on the skin directly from the jar.

> > > Don' heat it, it will degrade the oils.

> > >

> > > The reason it is so dense is because of the density of

> > > the butters and the climate when it is cold. You have to

> > > warm it in your palms first,

> > >

> > > You can add some Extravirgin olive oil to it and a bit of

> > > peppermint. you can add some Olive EXTRA VIRGIN and some

> > > peppermint to it if you are getting low.

> > >

> > > We are two weeks away from being able to even package the

> > > New Hope 2. We are working on a way to make it a bit softer

> > > without blending in a blender, which adds air to it and makes

> > > if fluffy but it lasts far less long, less beeswax and less

> > > hard butters more oils.

> > >

> > > Hope this helps, I can't wait to get the New Herbal Oil

> Soap

> > > Soak for the Bath and the New Hope 2 done. I have been

> > > formulating, tossing it out and finally have the right mix.

> > >

> > > [Also, let the soap dry between baths/showers] it is

> > > organic and [keeping it dry will make it last] longer.

> > >

> > > ------------------------------

> > >

> > > In a later email she added this info:

> > >

> > > Also if you haven't done this yet go to

> > >

> > > www.vaxa.com

> > >

> > > Order the following [because a] PH of 7-7.35 is crucial:

> > >

> > > PH Buffer

> > > PH strips (for checking ph of urine)

> > >

> > > also they have a really good product called

> > >

> > > Parasitin

> > >

> > > Burn Menthol Chips in your home. Here are two good sources:

> > >

> > > www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com

> > > www.essentialwholesale.com

> > >

> > > Sincerely with Prayers for Healing,

> > > Trisha

> > >

> > >

=================================================================

> > >

> >

>

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Kihun, I put my ESP products on damp to semi-wet skin, especially the

serum, and told Trish this. She didn't tell me not to apply it this

way. It does mkake it go further and I always warm it in my hand. KJ,

hopefully Trish is also working on a pre-shower oil/spice treatment

that you apply before your shower and leave on your skin a bit for

those of us who don't take baths or have tubs.

bob

> > >

> > >

=================================================================

> > > Hi, my friends,

> > >

> > > I sent this email to Trish yesterday

> > >

> > > Trish,

> > > I know you have been asked this question so often you

probably

> > > have a stock answer for it:

> > >

> > > I have gone through my New Hope Balm so fast that I have just

> > > a few days left of it.

> > >

> > > How close is your New Hope 2 formula to being ready to sell

> > > and will it be as hard a formulation or will it (hopefully)

> > > be easier to spread and go a bit farther?

> > >

> > > Is there an organic additive that would aid in that area or

> > > would any additive interfere with the properties of the

> > > essential oils?

> > >

> > > Would heating the balm (to make it easier to spread)

interfere

> > > with its effectiveness?

> > >

> > > Thank you, Trish,

> > > katiejill

> > >

> > > and she said I could share her reply with all of you:

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > Are you warming the balm up in the palms of your hands

> > > before using it??

> > >

> > > It can not be spread on the skin directly from the jar.

> > > Don' heat it, it will degrade the oils.

> > >

> > > The reason it is so dense is because of the density of

> > > the butters and the climate when it is cold. You have to

> > > warm it in your palms first,

> > >

> > > You can add some Extravirgin olive oil to it and a bit of

> > > peppermint. you can add some Olive EXTRA VIRGIN and some

> > > peppermint to it if you are getting low.

> > >

> > > We are two weeks away from being able to even package the

> > > New Hope 2. We are working on a way to make it a bit softer

> > > without blending in a blender, which adds air to it and makes

> > > if fluffy but it lasts far less long, less beeswax and less

> > > hard butters more oils.

> > >

> > > Hope this helps, I can't wait to get the New Herbal Oil

> Soap

> > > Soak for the Bath and the New Hope 2 done. I have been

> > > formulating, tossing it out and finally have the right mix.

> > >

> > > [Also, let the soap dry between baths/showers] it is

> > > organic and [keeping it dry will make it last] longer.

> > >

> > > ------------------------------

> > >

> > > In a later email she added this info:

> > >

> > > Also if you haven't done this yet go to

> > >

> > > www.vaxa.com

> > >

> > > Order the following [because a] PH of 7-7.35 is crucial:

> > >

> > > PH Buffer

> > > PH strips (for checking ph of urine)

> > >

> > > also they have a really good product called

> > >

> > > Parasitin

> > >

> > > Burn Menthol Chips in your home. Here are two good sources:

> > >

> > > www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com

> > > www.essentialwholesale.com

> > >

> > > Sincerely with Prayers for Healing,

> > > Trisha

> > >

> > >

=================================================================

> > >

> >

>

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I also wanted to add that sometimes i mix some soap lather in with

the balm(always on damp skin). I started doing this with the baby

because she uses balm every day. Didnt want to run out. Sometimes i

only use the balm 2x a week, leaning on the soap can reduce the cost,

and still do the trick.

> > > >

> > > >

> =================================================================

> > > > Hi, my friends,

> > > >

> > > > I sent this email to Trish yesterday

> > > >

> > > > Trish,

> > > > I know you have been asked this question so often you

> probably

> > > > have a stock answer for it:

> > > >

> > > > I have gone through my New Hope Balm so fast that I have

just

> > > > a few days left of it.

> > > >

> > > > How close is your New Hope 2 formula to being ready to sell

> > > > and will it be as hard a formulation or will it (hopefully)

> > > > be easier to spread and go a bit farther?

> > > >

> > > > Is there an organic additive that would aid in that area or

> > > > would any additive interfere with the properties of the

> > > > essential oils?

> > > >

> > > > Would heating the balm (to make it easier to spread)

> interfere

> > > > with its effectiveness?

> > > >

> > > > Thank you, Trish,

> > > > katiejill

> > > >

> > > > and she said I could share her reply with all of you:

> > > >

> > > > ,

> > > >

> > > > Are you warming the balm up in the palms of your hands

> > > > before using it??

> > > >

> > > > It can not be spread on the skin directly from the jar.

> > > > Don' heat it, it will degrade the oils.

> > > >

> > > > The reason it is so dense is because of the density of

> > > > the butters and the climate when it is cold. You have to

> > > > warm it in your palms first,

> > > >

> > > > You can add some Extravirgin olive oil to it and a bit

of

> > > > peppermint. you can add some Olive EXTRA VIRGIN and some

> > > > peppermint to it if you are getting low.

> > > >

> > > > We are two weeks away from being able to even package

the

> > > > New Hope 2. We are working on a way to make it a bit softer

> > > > without blending in a blender, which adds air to it and

makes

> > > > if fluffy but it lasts far less long, less beeswax and less

> > > > hard butters more oils.

> > > >

> > > > Hope this helps, I can't wait to get the New Herbal Oil

> > Soap

> > > > Soak for the Bath and the New Hope 2 done. I have been

> > > > formulating, tossing it out and finally have the right mix.

> > > >

> > > > [Also, let the soap dry between baths/showers] it is

> > > > organic and [keeping it dry will make it last] longer.

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------

> > > >

> > > > In a later email she added this info:

> > > >

> > > > Also if you haven't done this yet go to

> > > >

> > > > www.vaxa.com

> > > >

> > > > Order the following [because a] PH of 7-7.35 is crucial:

> > > >

> > > > PH Buffer

> > > > PH strips (for checking ph of urine)

> > > >

> > > > also they have a really good product called

> > > >

> > > > Parasitin

> > > >

> > > > Burn Menthol Chips in your home. Here are two good sources:

> > > >

> > > > www.wholesalesuppliesplus.com

> > > > www.essentialwholesale.com

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely with Prayers for Healing,

> > > > Trisha

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