Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 I am so interested to hear how you go with her environmental spray! Are you currently using her products too? I have been wondering what kind of results people are having with the esp products...??? I still use them all the time, just hoping that its been worth the purchase for all of you.... z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 > > > I am so interested to hear how you go with her environmental spray! > Are you currently using her products too? > I have been wondering what kind of results people are having with the > esp products...??? > I still use them all the time, just hoping that its been worth the > purchase for all of you.... > z > I've seen these products mentioned, but don't know much about them. Do they work on dogs and cats? Do they work on people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Hi Z, I'm still having a lot of skin problems. But if I hadn't found the espbotanicals I wouldn't be able to function at all. I'm so grateful. I did try to get tested for lyme. I went to my dr. and she gave me a kit. I went and got my blood drawn and carefully sent it to a place in Floriday on Thursday. They assured me it would arrive the following day. Tuesday I got a letter from the place in Florida. My blood didn't arrive until Monday plus they don't deal with NY. After checking with the UPS co., my package had been in 3 different airports before it arrived at its final destination. yikes. Anyway, thank God for espbotanicals and for Tricia. Lou From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker@...>Subject: Re: ESP Botanicals HOT NEWS!bird mites Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 3:47 AM I am so interested to hear how you go with her environmental spray!Are you currently using her products too?I have been wondering what kind of results people are having with the esp products...? ??I still use them all the time, just hoping that its been worth the purchase for all of you....z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I love the soap and shampoo for cleansing. My skin is really sensitive and it seems to tolerate it well. I often stand in front of the sink soaping my whole body, keeping the bar of soap wet and then letting the lather dry on me, leaving it on for a couple of hours before I bathe. Seems to help pull them outta me. I sometimes use the balm on my whole body but I especially love it in my hair. I use it as a hair gel, rubbing it into my scalp and along the hairline, leaving it in all day. It has brought, with using a nit comb underwater when I bathe, scalp and ear buggies down about 95%. I love the repellant..no chemical smell...just essential oils! Definately worth buying..Thanks! b > > From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker@...> > Subject: Re: ESP Botanicals HOT NEWS! > bird mites > Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 3:47 AM > > > > > > > > I am so interested to hear how you go with her environmental spray! > Are you currently using her products too? > I have been wondering what kind of results people are having with the > esp products...? ?? > I still use them all the time, just hoping that its been worth the > purchase for all of you.... > z > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 They should send you another test kit. The one you have is compromised since it has sat so long. When sending out tests, the LLMD's send them out at the first of the week to avoid sitting over the weekend. They find many that have sat over the weekend come back negative and upon retesting find positives where they were negatives. More on salt in a different post......Frito Re: ESP Botanicals HOT NEWS!bird mitesDate: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 3:47 AM I am so interested to hear how you go with her environmental spray!Are you currently using her products too?I have been wondering what kind of results people are having with the esp products...? ??I still use them all the time, just hoping that its been worth the purchase for all of you....z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Lou Been wondering about you friend, I cant believe they screwed up your shipment so badly....I bet the lyme test costs a lot, as for the blood draw, that probably cost too.....like Frito said you should ask them to give you a second shot at it. So you mentioned you are still having skin problems. Is that just things still being drawn out all the time? or are you getting new bumps, or worse? I'm just glad you dont have the mites to fight on top of not feeling so great. Lets just hope you get some more help from your doc Wow, thats cool that you have had such an improvement on your skelp... And I bet the balm works great as a hair gel for guys All I know is that once its in there, come hell or high water, you cant get it out... I was using the balm full body twice a day for many many months, but your right not to over use it....now I just use it once or twice a week, but put the soap on really thickly every day. z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Hi Z, I don't know where to go from here with the lyme testing. My dr. gave me the kit for the place in Florida and they don't do New York?!? anyway, yes I'm still having tons of stuff come out daily. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Maybe I should try the essiac tea if I could get the address again? Lots of itching and then sandy stuff and tiny black whisker things. This is strange but I was thinking about this today and wondering if anyone else has had the same experience. I have been taking a class for the last week and a half and the whole time I'm there, 8 hrs. a day I don't itch or feel crawlies. It's like I'm normal. But then when I get home it starts. I know the mites are gone. So could it be my environment or just coincidence. thanks, Lou From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker@...>Subject: ESP Botanicals HOT NEWS!bird mites Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 3:27 PM LouBeen wondering about you friend, I cant believe they screwed up your shipment so badly....I bet the lyme test costs a lot, as for the blood draw, that probably cost too.....like Frito said you should ask them to give you a second shot at it.So you mentioned you are still having skin problems. Is that just things still being drawn out all the time? or are you getting new bumps, or worse? I'm just glad you dont have the mites to fight on top of not feeling so great.Lets just hope you get some more help from your doc Wow, thats cool that you have had such an improvement on your skelp...And I bet the balm works great as a hair gel for guys All I know is that once its in there, come hell or high water, you cant get it out...I was using the balm full body twice a day for many many months, but your right not to over use it....now I just use it once or twice a week, but put the soap on really thickly every day. z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Lou I wouldnt worry about you still having stuff come out, thats really to be expected....I stopped looking for a few months, because it was making me crazy....I still dont look much, I just know the esp is doing its stuff.... Thats kind of strange about how you feel completely normal when away from home....could you have a mold problem? You also hear about sick building syndrom, and I do feel that there was something wrong with the home we lived in when we had the mites......though we did have mold specialists take readings and they found nothing....anyway, even though we got rid of the mites I still just didnt feel good there....besides that it was a new house that had a strange unexplainable smell about it no matter what I did. Anyway sorry for the ramble, and I wish I knew where you should go for further lyme testing, I bet Frito would know..... z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Hi Z, Thank you, i thought maybe I should be farther along than I am. I have to give up on the lyme thing for a while cuz I'm still not working and have no insurance. Hopefully I'll be getting work soon. Also, the book Bessie wrote about sounds really interesting. Maybe it will have some answers. lou From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker@...>Subject: Re: ESP Botanicals HOT NEWS!bird mites Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 2:37 AM LouI wouldnt worry about you still having stuff come out, thats really to be expected.... I stopped looking for a few months, because it was making me crazy....I still dont look much, I just know the esp is doing its stuff....:)Thats kind of strange about how you feel completely normal when away from home....could you have a mold problem? You also hear about sick building syndrom, and I do feel that there was something wrong with the home we lived in when we had the mites......though we did have mold specialists take readings and they found nothing....anyway, even though we got rid of the mites I still just didnt feel good there....besides that it was a new house that had a strange unexplainable smell about it no matter what I did.Anyway sorry for the ramble, and I wish I knew where you should go for further lyme testing, I bet Frito would know.....z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Hi Lou, Same things happens to myself, and my friend who was co-infested at the same time, when we are away. Fine, till we walk in the door at home and the stirring starts. I found a few reasons possibly why the activity increases...mine are saying " HI " to kinfolk and " dinner's ready " ..lol Recognition of kin or nestmates Locating or identifying a member of the opposite sex Facilitation of courtship and mating Giving directions for location of food or other resources Regulating spatial distribution of individuals -- aggregation or dispersal; establishing and maintaining a territory Warning of danger; setting off an alarm Advertising one's presence or location Expressing threat or submission (agonistic behaviors) Deception / mimicry > > From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker@...> > Subject: Re: ESP Botanicals HOT NEWS! > bird mites > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 2:37 AM > > > > > > > Lou > I wouldnt worry about you still having stuff come out, thats really to > be expected.... I stopped looking for a few months, because it was > making me crazy....I still dont look much, I just know the esp is doing > its stuff.... > > Thats kind of strange about how you feel completely normal when away > from home....could you have a mold problem? You also hear about sick > building syndrom, and I do feel that there was something wrong with the > home we lived in when we had the mites......though we did have mold > specialists take readings and they found nothing....anyway, even though > we got rid of the mites I still just didnt feel good there....besides > that it was a new house that had a strange unexplainable smell about it > no matter what I did. > > Anyway sorry for the ramble, and I wish I knew where you should go for > further lyme testing, I bet Frito would know..... > > z > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Great info in a humorous manner, like it. Please all, he has described behaviour and pheromone distribution. These things are really taking place.....Frito Re: ESP Botanicals HOT NEWS!> bird mites> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 2:37 AM> > > > > > > Lou> I wouldnt worry about you still having stuff come out, thats really to > be expected.... I stopped looking for a few months, because it was > making me crazy....I still dont look much, I just know the esp is doing > its stuff....> > Thats kind of strange about how you feel completely normal when away > from home....could you have a mold problem? You also hear about sick > building syndrom, and I do feel that there was something wrong with the > home we lived in when we had the mites......though we did have mold > specialists take readings and they found nothing....anyway, even though > we got rid of the mites I still just didnt feel good there....besides > that it was a new house that had a strange unexplainable smell about it > no matter what I did.> > Anyway sorry for the ramble, and I wish I knew where you should go for > further lyme testing, I bet Frito would know.....> > z> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I just stated the ESP Botanicals this week. The soap and serum. They are wonderful products. I was not able to do the soap for 24 hours however. The crawling over the soap was to weired. But i did it for five hours the first time and took a bath in tea tree oil. OMG!!!Stingy stuff lined the bath tub. It as like furry stuff or somthing you would finf in your vaccum when you go to empty the canester. After the first bath I resoaped up and managed to keep more soap on for another three hours before I had to wash again. Not so much came out the second time. And after wearing the soap for 6 hours yesterday nothing is coming out of my skin but, still feel some crawling. I have been leaving the soap in my hair and using the serum on my body at bed time. The soap has made my body feel like new despite the crawling. I would not suggest using it on animals since you cant leave it on them. ESP is probably not good for internal organs. J From: lorenuciadoekes <lorenuciadoekes@...>Subject: Re: ESP Botanicals HOT NEWS!bird mites Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 8:51 PM >> > I am so interested to hear how you go with her environmental spray!> Are you currently using her products too?> I have been wondering what kind of results people are having with the > esp products...? ??> I still use them all the time, just hoping that its been worth the > purchase for all of you....> z>I've seen these products mentioned, but don't know much about them. Do they work on dogs and cats? Do they work on people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Very good list of how all creatures instinctively behave, from mites to humans. I think if we remember that all of us are primarily motivated to survive, procreate, eat, sleep... it will help us beat them. We have to know this wily enemy better, because it already knows us too well!!!! katiejill > > > > From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker@> > > Subject: Re: ESP Botanicals HOT NEWS! > > bird mites > > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 2:37 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou > > I wouldnt worry about you still having stuff come out, thats really > to > > be expected.... I stopped looking for a few months, because it was > > making me crazy....I still dont look much, I just know the esp is > doing > > its stuff.... > > > > Thats kind of strange about how you feel completely normal when > away > > from home....could you have a mold problem? You also hear about > sick > > building syndrom, and I do feel that there was something wrong with > the > > home we lived in when we had the mites......though we did have mold > > specialists take readings and they found nothing....anyway, even > though > > we got rid of the mites I still just didnt feel good > there....besides > > that it was a new house that had a strange unexplainable smell > about it > > no matter what I did. > > > > Anyway sorry for the ramble, and I wish I knew where you should go > for > > further lyme testing, I bet Frito would know..... > > > > z > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 J I think you are right to wash off the soap if you are feeling crawly. Are you using the balm full body? Have you tried applying the soap and then once that has dried, applying the balm over top of it? As for the soap scrungies, as you have already noticed some what, that lessons over time. The first few weeks were crazy with strange things coming from my pores....it does get better though.... z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Thanks Z I noticed that the third time i did it stuff stopped coming out. I have the serum but, I did not order the balm. Money is tight. From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker@...>Subject: Re: ESP Botanicals HOT NEWS!bird mites Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 9:18 PM J I think you are right to wash off the soap if you are feeling crawly. Are you using the balm full body? Have you tried applying the soap and then once that has dried, applying the balm over top of it? As for the soap scrungies, as you have already noticed some what, that lessons over time. The first few weeks were crazy with strange things coming from my pores....it does get better though.... z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 J I think the serum is exactly the same as the balm, just in a different form.... so thats good z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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