Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 Marsrover_89 asks about 'average Indian CD4 counts'. I think this comes from a concern that if 'normal' counts are lower in an Indian population, then current guidelines for treatment of HIV might lead to over-treatment or undue anxiety among people diagnosed with HIV who become aware of their CD4 counts. How realistic a concern this may be, given limited access to treatment and the indisputably low CD4 counts (expressed as a number of cells per cubic millimetre) reported in people who actually go on treatment, is for readers to make up their own minds about. Western guidelines have changed, even in the USA, from advocating treatment for adults when CD4 counts are below 500 to proposing treatment when they fall repeatedly below 350 - with the real goal, at least here in the UK, being to make sure that treatment starts before a threshold of 200 is crossed. WHO currently recommends treatment at or below a level of 200. [CD4 values in young children are much higher, even in the presence of disease, so different treatment criteria may be needed.] I would not have thought there was any reason to do extensive surveys of healthy populations, since CD4 count doesn't mean much outside of specific contexts - such as monitoring HIV disease, where perhaps what matters most is the trend over time. However, what information I've seen lately (see below) doesn't suggest that Indian average CD4 counts in healthy HIV negative adults are any different to those seen in Western Europe or North America. When reading any claims about CD4 counts in any population, especially in the older literature, a question that needs to be asked is whether the laboratory that carried out the tests takes part in a quality assurance scheme, since there can otherwise be significant inter-laboratory variation. Others may be able to say if such a scheme currently exists in India or how extensive it might be. (Brazil, for example, has a substantial national CD4 quality assurance scheme which is also linked in to an international quality assurance scheme, NEQAS, run from Sheffield in the UK.) A small study from Chennai presented at the Paris IAS conference last month claimed to show (but in fact did not show, because it was too small and did not apply appropriate analytical methods) that total lymphocyte counts could be substituted for CD4 counts. This was based on testing the blood of 11 people without HIV and 5 people with HIV/AIDS. Quoting the relevant sections from the abstract: " 2 ml of EDTA-treated whole blood was collected in a vacutainer tube from 11 normal healthy individuals and five HIV-infected patients who were classified as symptomatic from Tambaram sanatorium hospital. These samples were transported to the laboratory (DEM) and processed on the same day. Flow cytometer (Beckman coulter-USA) [was used] for enumerating CD4 T cells " ... " The CD4 T cell values ranged between 690-2420 per mm3 in case of the normal individuals and 74-268 per mm3 CD4 T cells in HIV-infected persons. ... The mean CD4 T cell counts in normals was 1177 per mm3 and 172 per mm3 in HIV-infected persons. " REFERENCE: Srihari BJ et al. Correlation of CD4 T cells with total lymphocyte counts (TLC) - a marker for monitoring HIV/AIDS patients in resource limited settings. Antiviral Therapy 8 (Suppl. 1): abstract 477. 2003. Hope this is helpful - and perhaps it can prompt someone who has greater expertise and knowledge to cite another larger and more relevant Indian study. n Meldrum, International Editor, www.aidsmap.com NAM, Lincoln House, 1 Brixton Road, London, England SW9 6DE E-mail: <julian@...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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