Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 -- Minc, Please let me know more on this colon therapy!!!My boy has been having bloody diarrhea and things have been seen by us that resemble magets!!!Surely not,I hope! We are waiting for the test to come back from our ped gastro. He is immune deficient with chronic mucocutaneous candidiasis primary deficiency and diarrhea is common. But this is the first time we have ever seen this!!! My husband tried to reassure me that it isn't magets but he does admit that it is not suppose to be there!! This was so spooky that I want to know how this can happen!! I wonder if this is what you are talking about?! Please let me know and if a regular ped gastrologist at a children's hospital is going to recognize this if you think! Please let me hear from you----I'm nervous now!!!! Kerri - In @y..., " Minc " <minc@t...> wrote: > I apologize; someone sent me a private letter making inquiries about ear > candling and I had just downloaded a mail program that allows me to add > animated figures to my letters and lost that letter so am posting publicly. > > Ear candling can be performed on autistic children without a problem as long > as they have already been taught to obey and sit still. I taught my > daughter to comply and she will sit on a chair for as long as I tell her to, > eat whatever I put in front of her and mimics dance steps for me as part of > a T'ai Chi routine. She also performs yoga. > > So I cannot say all autistic children can sit still during candling, but > that it is possible and that would be dependent upon how compliant your > child is. They will have to sit still and likely it is best to lay them > down on a bed. Then have someone else put the long (12 inch) cone to their > ear and perhaps you lay beside them to offer reassurance. > > I had to train my daughter to chew her supplements and the way I did that > was by chewing them myself so she never had the chance to learn that was > abnormal. She will eat anything and endure any horrible taste because she > saw me do it without making a face (and that was tough to do!) and she > thinks it is normal and a part of her life. > > And she gained respect for me by having seen me eat them ... > > So as we already know each child is different and each " behaviour > modificational program " is varied and mine is perhaps unique since I always > concern myself with her spiritual growth (I am a spiritual inspirationalist > by profession and write a daily column on the net), then you'll have to > gauge yourself whether or not your own " little grasshopper " will regard you > as ultimate authority over them and do what you tell them or show them is to > be done. > > You'll have to start somewhere, and since you'll be shocked at what comes > out of their ears, it is worth trying and perhaps even performing it on > another member of your family first where the child can see what is going to > happen and take some security and trust from that performance. > > The cone is 12 inches long and you light the larger end. It will not catch > fire; it will cause smoke and there should be no chance that ashes shall > fall or that the child shall be harmed. Even if they resist and shake their > head, someone is going to be holding that cone to insure vaccum, so would > have time to move it away. > > You let it burn until it is approximately 6 inches gone, then remove it and > look inside. > > Masses of junk will be inside and you will be astounded. > > We have been doing this to Lacey Marie since she was only four years old but > at that time I also had a daughter who would sit through a colon therapy > with tubing up her behind. Her brother was kind enough to allow her to > watch (I have very convenient children <grin> and my son calls me " Mahatma, " > which means " Great Mother.) > > We found, by the way, 3 large (2 inch!) parasites up the colon of my son > when he was that age and I know he did not swallow them whole; that they had > been microscopic and due to slow digestion and intake of beef, had time to > grow THAT large inside his digestive system! > > Also, when I advertised colon therapy as being helpful to autistic children > on my autism column years ago, many of the mothers decided they would try it > themselves first. All who tried it (14) found large parasites and some of > them were two-headed mutations that horrified them. > > But better out than in! > > My daughter fell asleep during the colon therapy, by the way, so that's how > non-invasive it actually is. I did give it a boost up by keeping her > sleeping schedule short the night previous, however. > > If you have a hyperactive child who fights when you try to make him sit > still, one therapy that worked for us was Jin Shin Jytsu. It is known to > enhance one's ability to achieve inner peace and it induces a meditative > state that is calming. > > You might also choose a time, perhaps after a warm bath, when the child > feels refreshed and ready to rest and be quietened. > > You can find ear candles at any health food store such as Whole Foods Market > or SunHarvest or have them order them from the smaller ones. There should > be lots of websites available also. I remember making a study of them for > my column and finding many websites, so if you cannot find them perhaps they > could be ordered over the net. > > Hope this was helpful. We're working our way towards teaching the > fundamentals of karate to Lacey (the forms and not the actual defending or > attacking), so concentrated our efforts on absolute recognition of myself as > her ultimate authoritive figure, her " Sensei " to be obeyed with reverence > ... in order to teach her respect. > > She now complies and will move into yoga positions, so I cannot say your > child will sit still or not and have offered my best. > > I can only say the parents on The Minc List were successful in using ear > candles so it can be done. > > Many, however, had trouble getting the children to lay quietly for colon > therapy and I think parental attitude development and conveyance is vital to > any child, especially the autistic, and it can be manifested in routine > introductions slowly, as BabySteps ... so someday you can ask for anything > and the child has complete trust and performs. > > Good luck! I think it is a worthwhile experience. > > Minc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Minc, Thanks for the comprehensive explanation of ear candles and colon testing/parasites. I have just added that to my list of things to have done for my 4y7m son who I know has parasites and ameobas. I have tried oil of oregano and grapefruit seed extract and am moving on to a Flagyl generic that is GFCF and dread the thought of having him on an antibiotic for 10 days. Sharon in Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Minc, What is this colon therapy you are talking about? Thanks, Tari [ ] Ear Candles I apologize; someone sent me a private letter making inquiries about ear candling and I had just downloaded a mail program that allows me to add animated figures to my letters and lost that letter so am posting publicly. Ear candling can be performed on autistic children without a problem as long as they have already been taught to obey and sit still. I taught my daughter to comply and she will sit on a chair for as long as I tell her to, eat whatever I put in front of her and mimics dance steps for me as part of a T'ai Chi routine. She also performs yoga. So I cannot say all autistic children can sit still during candling, but that it is possible and that would be dependent upon how compliant your child is. They will have to sit still and likely it is best to lay them down on a bed. Then have someone else put the long (12 inch) cone to their ear and perhaps you lay beside them to offer reassurance. I had to train my daughter to chew her supplements and the way I did that was by chewing them myself so she never had the chance to learn that was abnormal. She will eat anything and endure any horrible taste because she saw me do it without making a face (and that was tough to do!) and she thinks it is normal and a part of her life. And she gained respect for me by having seen me eat them ... So as we already know each child is different and each " behaviour modificational program " is varied and mine is perhaps unique since I always concern myself with her spiritual growth (I am a spiritual inspirationalist by profession and write a daily column on the net), then you'll have to gauge yourself whether or not your own " little grasshopper " will regard you as ultimate authority over them and do what you tell them or show them is to be done. You'll have to start somewhere, and since you'll be shocked at what comes out of their ears, it is worth trying and perhaps even performing it on another member of your family first where the child can see what is going to happen and take some security and trust from that performance. The cone is 12 inches long and you light the larger end. It will not catch fire; it will cause smoke and there should be no chance that ashes shall fall or that the child shall be harmed. Even if they resist and shake their head, someone is going to be holding that cone to insure vaccum, so would have time to move it away. You let it burn until it is approximately 6 inches gone, then remove it and look inside. Masses of junk will be inside and you will be astounded. We have been doing this to Lacey Marie since she was only four years old but at that time I also had a daughter who would sit through a colon therapy with tubing up her behind. Her brother was kind enough to allow her to watch (I have very convenient children <grin> and my son calls me " Mahatma, " which means " Great Mother.) We found, by the way, 3 large (2 inch!) parasites up the colon of my son when he was that age and I know he did not swallow them whole; that they had been microscopic and due to slow digestion and intake of beef, had time to grow THAT large inside his digestive system! Also, when I advertised colon therapy as being helpful to autistic children on my autism column years ago, many of the mothers decided they would try it themselves first. All who tried it (14) found large parasites and some of them were two-headed mutations that horrified them. But better out than in! My daughter fell asleep during the colon therapy, by the way, so that's how non-invasive it actually is. I did give it a boost up by keeping her sleeping schedule short the night previous, however. If you have a hyperactive child who fights when you try to make him sit still, one therapy that worked for us was Jin Shin Jytsu. It is known to enhance one's ability to achieve inner peace and it induces a meditative state that is calming. You might also choose a time, perhaps after a warm bath, when the child feels refreshed and ready to rest and be quietened. You can find ear candles at any health food store such as Whole Foods Market or SunHarvest or have them order them from the smaller ones. There should be lots of websites available also. I remember making a study of them for my column and finding many websites, so if you cannot find them perhaps they could be ordered over the net. Hope this was helpful. We're working our way towards teaching the fundamentals of karate to Lacey (the forms and not the actual defending or attacking), so concentrated our efforts on absolute recognition of myself as her ultimate authoritive figure, her " Sensei " to be obeyed with reverence ... in order to teach her respect. She now complies and will move into yoga positions, so I cannot say your child will sit still or not and have offered my best. I can only say the parents on The Minc List were successful in using ear candles so it can be done. Many, however, had trouble getting the children to lay quietly for colon therapy and I think parental attitude development and conveyance is vital to any child, especially the autistic, and it can be manifested in routine introductions slowly, as BabySteps ... so someday you can ask for anything and the child has complete trust and performs. Good luck! I think it is a worthwhile experience. Minc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 In a message dated 4/24/01 1:26:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sharon.morris@... writes: << have tried oil of oregano and grapefruit seed extract and am moving on to a Fla >> What kind of response did you see with the oil of oregano? They put grapefruit extract in a product called yeast cleanse. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2001 Report Share Posted April 26, 2001 I use oil of oregano with my son and it seems to help but biocidin does not help as much. I was planning to alternate the two but now I have to rethink my strategy. Vicky jcanna1111@... wrote: > > In a message dated 4/24/01 1:26:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > sharon.morris@... writes: > > << have tried > oil of oregano and grapefruit seed extract and am moving on to a Fla > >> > > What kind of response did you see with the oil of oregano? They put > grapefruit extract in a product called yeast cleanse. Good luck. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Ear candling (not for small children or ones who can't sit for up to 40 mins) is the most beneficial thing I use to do for all sinus problems. It is relatively inexpensive and probably more beneficial than meds. I am going back SOON. " Ms. Michele " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Having used these quite a bit many years ago, the claim that the wax all comes from the candle just doesn't wash with me unless they were using a particular brand that was poorly made. There were many times I used the candles and got quite a bit of wax and then later used the same brand and got nothing. The concern over safety is valid though especially when using them with kids. You need to be extremely careful. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 OK, You all got me sort of fascinated by the ear candle discussion, so I did a little digging to learn more, and among other more positive commnets, I found this article. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/candling.html Having never tried ear candling, I can't really offer an opinion here, but thought some of you might be interested to read this. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Sorry about the ear candling suggestion! I've used it and you can see the ear wax when you cut it open, it is a much darker color then the other wax. It is a pleasant feeling. My son says it makes him feel better. I think there is always dangerous aspects to everything. Sometimes Quackwatch slams everything. They even day the Feingold Diet doesn't work. But I would never want to propose anything dangerous to anyone. So thats my bottom line on that. Jerri Caroline Glover wrote: > OK, > > You all got me sort of fascinated by the ear candle discussion, so I did a > little digging to learn more, and among other more positive commnets, I > found this article. > > http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/candling.html > > Having never tried ear candling, I can't really offer an opinion here, but > thought some of you might be interested to read this. > > Caroline > > > > > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute, the Parent Coalition, or the list moderator(s). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Jerri, Thanks... I'm certainly not trying to put anyone on the spot! There are a thousand sides to every issue and I just wanted to put that one out there because it does seem that there are risks that people should be aware of. As you said, there are risks to everything... which why I always wear shoes (clean ones!) in the house (I've had two too many broken toes...ouch). I'm sure you were very careful. Caroline > From: Jerri Gann <njgann@...> > Reply-< > > Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:11:15 -0700 > < > > Subject: Re: Re: Ear Candles > > Sorry about the ear candling suggestion! I've used it and you can see > the ear wax when you cut it open, it is a much darker color then the > other wax. It is a pleasant feeling. My son says it makes him feel > better. I think there is always dangerous aspects to everything. > Sometimes Quackwatch slams everything. They even day the Feingold Diet > doesn't work. But I would never want to propose anything dangerous to > anyone. So thats my bottom line on that. Jerri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 I have to agree...there are many nay sayers that tell me that the protocol isn't going to help our daughter. Heck we took her to a allergist who told not to let anyone tell me that diet would help our daughter's autism. LOL OK so we know that he is wrong. The doctor's who diagnosed autism told me that there were many " fad " ways of helping these children and that none of them are going to work. Hmmm wrong again. And then there was the eye surgery that both of my children had to dampen their nystagmus. (dancing eyes) Of course that doesn't work either. It just so happened that my son went from 20/200 - 20/70 overnight I am sure that it would have happened that day if we didn't have the surgery. LOL Yes I am being sarcastic. My point is that thinking differently or using an alternative form of treatment is not always the horrible thing that people think that it is. Heck my children are living proof. Did I mention that my son is now legally able to get his drivers licenses in the state of NY without restrictions? And what is even better is that now that Zack had the surgery he has started a flurry of people rushing to Dr. Hertle to get the same procedure and so far all of the children have had similar results and yet still when families ask their PO for a referral to have it done they are most often told that it is not safe and not proven. I say the proof is in the pie and I enjoy my pie. LOL That being said I could never put a lit candle in my daughters ear because I would be wearing the wax but more power to those who can. Sheri Caroline Glover <sfglover@...> wrote: Jerri, Thanks... I'm certainly not trying to put anyone on the spot! There are a thousand sides to every issue and I just wanted to put that one out there because it does seem that there are risks that people should be aware of. As you said, there are risks to everything... which why I always wear shoes (clean ones!) in the house (I've had two too many broken toes...ouch). I'm sure you were very careful. Caroline > From: Jerri Gann <njgann@...> > Reply-< > > Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:11:15 -0700 > < > > Subject: Re: Re: Ear Candles > > Sorry about the ear candling suggestion! I've used it and you can see > the ear wax when you cut it open, it is a much darker color then the > other wax. It is a pleasant feeling. My son says it makes him feel > better. I think there is always dangerous aspects to everything. > Sometimes Quackwatch slams everything. They even day the Feingold Diet > doesn't work. But I would never want to propose anything dangerous to > anyone. So thats my bottom line on that. Jerri --------------------------------- Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 In a message dated 10/2/2006 1:01:43 PM Central Standard Time, eszbi5@... writes: <<Did I mention that my son is now legally able to get his drivers licenses in the state of NY without restrictions?>> Wow -- that's wonderful! Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Yes it is wonderful!!! Zack was blind at birth and we had been told that he would never see more than light and dark and now he will be driving in about 2 years time. Of course I have fought for every procedure that he needed, I have educated myself about his condition and I have spent time teaching him to be normal much like I do with our daughter who also has albinism but she also has autism. She has also had the surgery on her eyes and if she could talk she would have shown as much or more improvement visually because the changes in her was amazing. I tell people on other lists just as I have said here. I will never bash or bad mouth another alternative way of doing things because thinking outside of the box has been the best thing in the world for my family. That being said I do not feel comfortable doing what some feel is fine and that's OK too. I feel that the protocol is the best fit for my daughter and is doing great under the care of Dr. Russel at the NNY Autism clinic in upstate NY. I would recommend him to anyone. If anyone wants contact information just let me know. Sheri Googahly@... wrote: In a message dated 10/2/2006 1:01:43 PM Central Standard Time, eszbi5@... writes: <<Did I mention that my son is now legally able to get his drivers licenses in the state of NY without restrictions?>> Wow -- that's wonderful! Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Just to let everyone know these are not typical candles. You get them at a health food store. They are called ear candles. They give you instructions on how to use them. You have to lie still and hold them. Nothing drips in the ear, nothing drips at all. But your child does have to be very still and you need a glass of water near by to put them out. I bought some more to try them on myself again. My son keeps asking for it but I want to try it on myself first. I've been using the Hydrogen Peroxide because I feel better about that then the mineral oil. I only have Baby oil anyway. He is doing better everyday now that I have him on the Famvir and I'm going to try and find away to be able to buy this as long as needed. I hope this will happen because I am convinced he needs the Famvir. Jerri Sheri wrote: > I have to agree...there are many nay sayers that tell me that the protocol isn't going to help our daughter. Heck we took her to a allergist who told not to let anyone tell me that diet would help our daughter's autism. LOL OK so we know that he is wrong. The doctor's who diagnosed autism told me that there were many " fad " ways of helping these children and that none of them are going to work. Hmmm wrong again. And then there was the eye surgery that both of my children had to dampen their nystagmus. (dancing eyes) Of course that doesn't work either. It just so happened that my son went from 20/200 - 20/70 overnight I am sure that it would have happened that day if we didn't have the surgery. LOL Yes I am being sarcastic. My point is that thinking differently or using an alternative form of treatment is not always the horrible thing that people think that it is. Heck my children are living proof. Did I mention that my son is now legally able to get his > drivers licenses in the state of NY without restrictions? And what is even better is that now that Zack had the surgery he has started a flurry of people rushing to Dr. Hertle to get the same procedure and so far all of the children have had similar results and yet still when families ask their PO for a referral to have it done they are most often told that it is not safe and not proven. I say the proof is in the pie and I enjoy my pie. LOL That being said I could never put a lit candle in my daughters ear because I would be wearing the wax but more power to those who can. Sheri > > Caroline Glover <sfglover@...> wrote: Jerri, > > Thanks... I'm certainly not trying to put anyone on the spot! There are a > thousand sides to every issue and I just wanted to put that one out there > because it does seem that there are risks that people should be aware of. > As you said, there are risks to everything... which why I always wear shoes > (clean ones!) in the house (I've had two too many broken toes...ouch). > > I'm sure you were very careful. > > Caroline > > >> From: Jerri Gann <njgann@...> >> Reply-< > >> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:11:15 -0700 >> < > >> Subject: Re: Re: Ear Candles >> >> Sorry about the ear candling suggestion! I've used it and you can see >> the ear wax when you cut it open, it is a much darker color then the >> other wax. It is a pleasant feeling. My son says it makes him feel >> better. I think there is always dangerous aspects to everything. >> Sometimes Quackwatch slams everything. They even day the Feingold Diet >> doesn't work. But I would never want to propose anything dangerous to >> anyone. So thats my bottom line on that. Jerri >> > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 I have... I'm not totally convinced they work... only do I say that because the ones I used which appeared to work pulling out gunk... well, I unwrapped another one (a new one) and it looked the same as the used ones... Maybe someone can give you more info on them And after using them, the ear seemed to be a bit better but not a whole lot. SuziFaye <drlyshand@...> wrote: Hi, does anyone here use ear candles? My son complained of an ear ache so we tried that today. If they do work, and they did seem to suck a lot a wax from his ears, is there a way to make them? Two candles were kinda expensive to use on a regular basis like the directions said you should. Or is there something else we should be doing to keep them clean naturally? He's 21 so he's old enough to know better then to let them get as dirty as they were but to be honest, they looked clean when he asked me to take a look.Thanks for any help. faye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 -Fay, I don't think earwax is caused by " being dirty; " I think it is an accumulation of a mucous that is there to protect the ear, but some people just have more than others and it can get dry and and cause trouble. I occasionally use a bit of garlic oil but don't put a swab down in the ear. My neighbor's brother claims he lost a piece of cotton in his ear from a swab and got infected and had a lot of trouble. Just a tiny drizzle of Sweet oil is good too if it can be found at the druggist anymore. these help with the pain, too, usually. warn the oils a bit. trepid. granny lee --- Faye <drlyshand@...> wrote: > Hi, does anyone here use ear candles? My son complained of an ear ache > so we tried that today. If they do work, and they did seem to suck a lot > a wax from his ears, is there a way to make them? Two candles were kinda > expensive to use on a regular basis like the directions said you should. > Or is there something else we should be doing to keep them clean > naturally? He's 21 so he's old enough to know better then to let them > get as dirty as they were but to be honest, they looked clean when he > asked me to take a look. > Thanks for any help. faye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2007 Report Share Posted December 14, 2007 thanks guys for all your comments. It is great to be able to come on here and talk with people who have tried it. I just do not want to do anything that will trigger new symptoms. I am looking forward to it. I will go tomorrow and look forward to a relaxing experience..... Re: Ear Candles Tommy Girl, There's nothing to be nervous about . . . enjoy it! Rogene Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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