Re: just curious - raw foodists

[Guest guest]

I believe in it, just can't manage to actually do it.

I eat about 80-90% raw in the summer. In the colder months it slips to about 25% raw. I also doubt I could be 100% raw. Not sure if I'd want to be. I love to cook too much!

Gloria

[Guest guest]

I did eat 100% raw for about a year a couple of years back, but being

married to a non-rawfoodist I just couldn't keep it up. I backslid. I

still try to eat a lot of raw foods, but cook the majority of our foods now.

I just read THE DETOX RAW FOOD DIET and she espouses something called " raw

until dinner, " which I've been doing lately. Seems to make it easier for

me.

I believe in it, just can't manage to actually do it.

Sharyn

-----Original Message-----

From: health

[mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Anne

just curious - how many of you are NOT raw foodists?

[Guest guest]

I understand Sharyn... same situation.. but do eat alot of raw or vegan when I'm at work.. at home I eat a fair amount - not alot of meat either but am married to a "meat & potatos' sort of guy... so makes it interesting. Sometimes I cook two meals... I lean towards the vegan except lately I'm been fairly raw as DH has been cooking some for himself...with me being down... It is very hard to eat raw when you have to cook for the SO. but I do fairly well. Suzi"Sharyn E. Cerniglia" <sharyncern@...> wrote: I did eat 100% raw for about a year a couple of years back, but beingmarried to a non-rawfoodist I just couldn't keep it up. I backslid. Istill try to eat a lot of raw foods, but cook the majority of our foods now.I just read THE DETOX RAW FOOD DIET and she espouses something called

"rawuntil dinner," which I've been doing lately. Seems to make it easier forme.I believe in it, just can't manage to actually do it.Sharyn-----Original Message-----From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Annejust curious - how many of you are NOT raw foodists?

[Guest guest]

I am not RAW. I try but can't afford to do it. My kids eat everything we can carry in the door.

Kathy

-- just curious - raw foodists

Hey all,just curious - how many of you are NOT raw foodists? I myself am not and am just wondering how many of you either eat mainly cooked by choice, or if you subscribe to another system of thought. Thanks! (the cooked veggie eater)

[Guest guest]

Raw until dinner is what Malkmus and Hallelujah Acres has been teaching for a couple decades.

Shari

[Guest guest]

My diet consists of 50-75% raw. I eat tons of fresh fruit and veggies every day.

Carol

http://www.bluegreensolutions.com

[Guest guest]

" just curious - how many of you are NOT raw foodists? "

, I eat at least 50% raw, maybe more. (More in summer for sure!) I am

trying to work up to a lot more.

Lightly steamed veggies are easy for me - that's the way I was raised. But

they are not raw.

Gayla

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

Bill Barnhill is our Inspiration! Go Bill!!!

aeranch@...

[Guest guest]

"I am not RAW. I try but can't afford to do it. My kids eat everything we can carry in the door Kathy"

Kathy, no fresh fruit? No salads? No carrots or celery instead of cooked snacks?

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlBill Barnhill is our Inspiration! Go Bill!!!aeranch@...

[Guest guest]

Suzi, I am in a similar situation - DH is a meat and potatoes guy. But I always start dinner with a BIG salad with everything green, orange, red, yellow on it. When I first met him, he did not recognize salad as food. Now he looks forward to it to start dinner. I found that by giving it to him first when he is hungry, he will enjoy it and get plenty of good raw veggies in him. hee hee....He still does not know that I grated zucchini and yellow squash with the carrots in summer. And I ain't telling - it will work again next summer!

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlBill Barnhill is our Inspiration! Go Bill!!!aeranch@...

RE: just curious - raw foodists

I understand Sharyn... same situation.. but do eat alot of raw or vegan when I'm at work.. at home I eat a fair amount - not alot of meat either but am married to a "meat & potatos' sort of guy...

[Guest guest]

I have days where I am 100% raw and the lowest I've been for the last few months is probably 90% maybe a couple times a month.

More raw than not.

Shari

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My diet consists of mostly raw fruits and veggies, and sprouted grains,

beans and nuts. I jokingly say that I will eventually just get a small

planter, grow some wheat grass or some such, and just graze.

I occasionally fall off the wagon and have chicken, very seldom have

raw beef anymore.

I am not veggie because of philosophical reasons, but rather for health

reasons. Though I love, respect and support those that are so for moral

and ethical reasons.

Hope this answers your query.

Peace, love, laughter

Dominus Vobiscum

>

> Hey all,

>

> just curious - how many of you are NOT raw foodists? I myself am not

> and am just wondering how many of you either eat mainly cooked by

> choice, or if you subscribe to another system of thought.

>

> Thanks!

>

> (the cooked veggie eater)

>

[Guest guest]

I am not raw, although I do think it is a

very healthy way of eating.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Gayla

Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007

9:11 PM

health

Subject: Re:

just curious - raw foodists

" just curious - how many of you are NOT raw

foodists? "

, I eat at least 50% raw, maybe more. (More in summer for sure!) I am

trying to work up to a lot more.

Lightly steamed veggies are easy for me - that's the way I was raised. But

they are not raw.

Gayla

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

Bill Barnhill is our Inspiration! Go Bill!!!

aeranchgmail

[Guest guest]

Not raw. When I can, I do. I do eat organic, 75%.

Lynn

in CA.

[Guest guest]

I love to cook too Gloria! (I also don't believe necessarily that

cooked food is not healthy for us!)

Same here, . I need a balance of both cooked foods and raw foods. However I don't eat meat, sugar or dairy. I just listen to what my body wants. In the winter I go heavier on the warming cooked foods and in the summer I tend toward more raw.

It's snowing here and I just made a big pot of Split Pea With Sweet Potato soup. Tonight I plan to make baked bell peppers stuffed with millet and mushrooms. And, of course, my usual....a HUGE salad.

Gloria

[Guest guest]

I love to cook too Gloria! (I also don't believe necessarily that

cooked food is not healthy for us!)

In health , MorningGlory113@... wrote:

>

> I believe in it, just can't manage to actually do it.

>

> I eat about 80-90% raw in the summer. In the colder months it slips

to about

> 25% raw. I also doubt I could be 100% raw. Not sure if I'd want to

be. I love

> to cook too much!

>

> Gloria

>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think a balance is a good idea too Gloria - nice to see another

viewpoint. I do eat meat, but rarely, especially lately. I have cut

out all but molasses, honey, rice syrup and have not been eating much

dairy or wheat either. I think listening to your body is good too. I

was having a discussion with my coworker the other day, tlaking about

what our bodies need in different seasons - depending on what type of

climate you are in etc. She eats mostly macrobiotic/chinese medicine

and we were discussing digestive fire etc. I think often it's eating

for the season and climate - which ends up being a balance of

yin/yang.

Anyway. I LOVE split pea soup - but one question - what do you

usually do with your millet? I've yet to be able to stomach that grain.

LOL Maybe a consistency thing? I've been reccommended to eat it as

breakfast...but just can't stomach it yet.

Thanks Gloria!

--- In health , MorningGlory113@... Same

here, . I need a balance of both cooked foods and raw foods.

> However I don't eat meat, sugar or dairy. I just listen to what my

body wants. In

> the winter I go heavier on the warming cooked foods and in the summer

I tend

> toward more raw.

> It's snowing here and I just made a big pot of Split Pea With Sweet

Potato

> soup. Tonight I plan to make baked bell peppers stuffed with millet

and

> mushrooms. And, of course, my usual....a HUGE salad.

>

> Gloria

>

[Guest guest]

Some doctors advise eating a special high fiber diet, consisting of fresh vegetables, fresh fruits, whole-grain breads, cereals and bran.

I also believe that diverticulitis could be minimized if people would take digestive enzymes and also chew their food well.

Gloria

[Guest guest]

Hi All

I used to eat carrots raw by the handful each day the baby kind or

made to look that way because really they are mature carrots diced

and sliced to appear small. I also ate spinach raw 10 to 15 leaves a

morning and apples at night. I devoured the salad bars at resturants

but never, I REPEAT never ate raw meat! Ive been told growing up that

raw meat might not be safe. Their might be organisms like parasites,

worms,eggs from flies if left on the meat block or other unsanity

practices. Even fish is considered unsafe for water live bacteria and

other undesirables. I've went as far as tell the waiter to take back

my steak if it looks red in the middle, chicken is sometimes watery

or pink by the bone and I chance that observation only. I hear so

many so called health experts say that eating raw veggies, lot of

helpings is good for you...well now my colon is ruined. Or it pre-

ceded my problem and lead to a painful sometimes pouches what they

call diverticulosis. Now I am doing fairly well with high fiber

cereals and *well* cooked veggies as a safe guard--- Until I get the

right combination of raw and some cooked to allow back into my

digestive system I will use caution. Interesting subject and one I

can *Digest*!:-)

Rita

> >

> > Hey all,

> >

> > just curious - how many of you are NOT raw foodists? I myself am

not

> > and am just wondering how many of you either eat mainly cooked by

> > choice, or if you subscribe to another system of thought.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> > (the cooked veggie eater)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Rita, Sounds like you did not have enough fiber in your diet.. Here is some info you may find interesting. Doctors believe a low-fiber diet is the main cause of diverticular disease. The disease was first noticed in the United States in the early 1900's. At about the same time, processed foods were introduced to the American diet. Many processed foods contain refined, low-fiber flour. Unlike whole-wheat flour, refined flour has no wheat bran. Diverticular disease is common in developed or industrialized countries--particularly the United States, England, and Australia--where low-fiber diets are common. The disease is rare in countries of Asia and Africa, where people eat high-fiber vegetable diets. Fiber is the part of fruits, vegetables, and grains that the body cannot digest. Some fiber dissolves easily in water (soluble fiber). It takes on a soft, jelly-like texture in the

intestines. Some fiber passes almost unchanged through the intestines (insoluble fiber). Both kinds of fiber help make stools soft and easy to pass. Fiber also prevents constipation. Constipation makes the muscles strain to move stool that is too hard. It is the main cause of increased pressure in the colon. The excess pressure causes the weak spots in the colon to bulge out and become diverticula. Diverticulitis occurs when diverticula become infected or inflamed. Doctors are not certain what causes the infection. It may begin when stool or bacteria are caught in the diverticula. An attack of diverticulitis can develop suddenly and without warning. Additionally, Some doctors advise eating a special high fiber diet, consisting of fresh vegetables, fresh fruits, whole-grain breads, cereals and bran. Additionally, adding a fiber supplement (such as Metamucil or Hydrocil) to the diet, and avoiding certain foods

with small seeds, such as strawberries, raspberries, whole cranberries and nuts is helpful in treating diverticulosis. Suzisnowwolf1779 <snowwolf1779@...> wrote: Hi AllI used to eat carrots raw by the handful each day the baby kind or made to look that way because really they are mature carrots diced and sliced to appear small. I also ate spinach raw 10 to 15 leaves a morning and apples at night. I devoured the salad bars at resturants but never, I REPEAT never ate raw meat! Ive been told growing up that raw meat might not be safe. Their might be organisms like parasites, worms,eggs from flies if left on the meat block or other unsanity practices. Even fish is considered unsafe for water live bacteria and other undesirables. I've went as far as tell the

waiter to take back my steak if it looks red in the middle, chicken is sometimes watery or pink by the bone and I chance that observation only. I hear so many so called health experts say that eating raw veggies, lot of helpings is good for you...well now my colon is ruined. Or it pre-ceded my problem and lead to a painful sometimes pouches what they call diverticulosis. Now I am doing fairly well with high fiber cereals and *well* cooked veggies as a safe guard--- Until I get the right combination of raw and some cooked to allow back into my digestive system I will use caution. Interesting subject and one I can *Digest*!:-)Rita

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[Guest guest]

Rita - are you saying eating raw vegetables ruined your colon? How can that be? Constipation is what causes the pockets/pouches in your colon.

Shari

[Guest guest]

Hi Rita,

Your colon is not ruined unless you choose to believe it is. Eating raw

fruits and vegetables does no harm to the colon. What harms the colon is

eating starchy foods (potatoes, pastas, grains or glue foods). Eating

cooked meat harms the colon.

Yes, your colon can be brought back into a state of health but you first

have to change the negative thought process that your colon is ruined.

Your colon came to be in the state it is in by choice in your diet and

lifestyle. I seriously doubt that your colon got into the condition it

did by your eating raw fruits and vegetables. Most likely it got that

way by eating grains, breads, meat, potatoes, etc. Grains are not a food

meant for humans. They never were. Grains are a food meant for birds and

small furry creatures with an incredibly high metabolism. Man has only

been utilizing grains for about 10,000 years. No where near enough time

for the body to evolve into a small furry creature capable of utilizing

the rocket fuel these foods supply small furry creatures and birds. Most

humans cannot chew grains sufficiently and they will get stuck in the

colon as they are gluey foods and will plug up and cause constipation.

Starchy roots like potatoes do the same thing.

While it is true that raw meat may contain parasites, bacteria, viruses

and such if your body is not toxic and full of metabolic wastes you will

never have a problem with parasites, bacteria or viruses. We all reap

the benefits of our choices in diet and lifestyle eventually. Usually

this begins as a problem with digestion and proceeds downhill from

there. Cooking food is not natural contrary to what any expert says.

Cooking destroys all the benefits of the food. The only thing left over

from cooked food is denatured proteins, gluey carbohydrates, inorganic

minerals, dead vitamins and dead enzymes. Cooking also turns the fiber

to mush as it breaks down the cell walls. Our bodies need the cellulose

of plant fiber in a raw state to do the sweeping of the intestinal

tract. I am sure most on this list have seen the effects of opening a

can of spinach. What kind of fiber is that? It is pretty useless mush.

Now lightly steaming does not break down the cellular walls of the plant

cells. Therefore, you get all the goodness of the fiber even if some of

the nutrients are destroyed in the process.

All in all Rita, if you are suffering from diverticulitis I would

strongly suggest you not to eat meat at all, cut out the grains, no

potatoes or gluey foods and eat more raw fruits and vegetables. Of

course, it is your choice on what you wish to believe and how you wish

to go about your own health, diet and lifestyle.

Don

snowwolf1779 wrote:

> Hi All

>

> I used to eat carrots raw by the handful each day the baby kind or

> made to look that way because really they are mature carrots diced

> and sliced to appear small. I also ate spinach raw 10 to 15 leaves a

> morning and apples at night. I devoured the salad bars at resturants

> but never, I REPEAT never ate raw meat! Ive been told growing up that

> raw meat might not be safe. Their might be organisms like parasites,

> worms,eggs from flies if left on the meat block or other unsanity

> practices. Even fish is considered unsafe for water live bacteria and

> other undesirables. I've went as far as tell the waiter to take back

> my steak if it looks red in the middle, chicken is sometimes watery

> or pink by the bone and I chance that observation only. I hear so

> many so called health experts say that eating raw veggies, lot of

> helpings is good for you...well now my colon is ruined. Or it pre-

> ceded my problem and lead to a painful sometimes pouches what they

> call diverticulosis. Now I am doing fairly well with high fiber

> cereals and *well* cooked veggies as a safe guard--- Until I get the

> right combination of raw and some cooked to allow back into my

> digestive system I will use caution. Interesting subject and one I

> can *Digest*!:-)

>

> Rita

>

>

>>

>>> Hey all,

>>>

>>> just curious - how many of you are NOT raw foodists? I myself am

>>>

> not

>

>>> and am just wondering how many of you either eat mainly cooked by

>>> choice, or if you subscribe to another system of thought.

>>>

>>> Thanks!

>>>

>>> (the cooked veggie eater)

>>>

>>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-

Hi Suzie

I am going next week to have a colonoscopy and hope the good doc

tells me that I can have carrots again chopped finer that is, my

other woman doc seen me during my attack and knows how much pain I

was experiencing. She told me 'not'to have the pulp back into the

juice?? why I thought but didn,t question her, can some one please

in this group tell me why its not allowable even with the pulp

ground real fine..unless the bulk of the pulp becomes hardened in

the colon or lumps into hardened stools? I thought the enzmes

activity should work to soften food especially 'raw' live veggies?

needless to say I feel deprived of salad bars and all my favorite

raw stuff, blaming myself for setting this condition up! Thanks so

much to this group for shining a light at the end of the tunnel! And

the Help I am getting here.

Rita

-- In health , Suzanne

<suziesgoats@...> wrote:

>

> Rita,

> Sounds like you did not have enough fiber in your diet..

>

> Here is some info you may find interesting.

> Doctors believe a low-fiber diet is the main cause of

diverticular disease. The disease was first noticed in the United

States in the early 1900's. At about the same time, processed foods

were introduced to the American diet. Many processed foods contain

refined, low-fiber flour. Unlike whole-wheat flour, refined flour

has no wheat bran. Diverticular disease is common in developed or

industrialized countries--particularly the United States, >

[Guest guest]

-Thanks Don

I will take the leap of faith starting today Valentine Day at the

resturant with my better half :-)

Rita

-- In health , Don Eitner

<mysticalherbalist@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rita,

>

> Your colon is not ruined unless you choose to believe it is.

Eating raw

> fruits and vegetables does no harm to the colon. What harms the

colon is

> eating starchy foods (potatoes, pastas, grains or glue foods).

Eating

> cooked meat harms the colon.

> Yes, your colon can be brought back into a state of health but you

first

> have to change the negative thought process that your colon is

ruined.

> Your colon came to be in the state it is in by choice in your diet

and

> lifestyle. I seriously doubt that your colon got into the

condition it

> did by your eating raw fruits and vegetables. Most likely it got

that

> way by eating grains, breads, meat, potatoes, etc. Grains are not

a food

> meant for humans. They never were. Grains are a food meant for

birds and

> small furry creatures with an incredibly high metabolism. Man has

only

> been utilizing grains for about 10,000 years. No where near enough

time

> for the body to evolve into a small furry creature capable of

utilizing

> the rocket fuel these foods supply small furry creatures and

birds.

[Guest guest]

-Yes

I am going for a colonoscopy next week and hope that I don,t have

to retreat to antibiotics before than. I still have pain once

inawhile and don,t relish the idea that my best friend sold me on

the idea that I will eventually have to have 13inches of my colon

cut out 'like her' she lived on antibiotics andpain pills ..I have

the sneeky suspician that she relied on the doc's advice to much?

Rita

-- In health , " deuteronomy2929 "

<deuteronomy2929@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Rita,

>

> We are indeed fearfully and wonderfully made. Each of us is

unique,

> and have unique requirements. I hope you find your centre, your

> balance soon.

>

> I'm curious. Have you had a colonoscopy? I get one yearly because

my

> father died of colon cancer. They come back clean. Well, the tests

> are clean. The scope itself...that's another story.

>

> Peace, love, laughter

>

> Dominus Vobiscum

>

>

> >

> > Hi All

> >

> > I used to eat carrots raw by the handful each day the baby kind

or

> > made to look that way because really they are mature carrots

diced

> > and sliced to appear small.

>