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I attribute the craving due to the difference in climate,

some of the yogi's in India have special yang tonics

I agree that 's cravings may be due to his need for more yang in his diet at this time. One way he can do this by increasing the amount of salt in his diet during the colder months.

Gloria

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I wish I could just give in to my cravings, Gloria, but I won't stop at "just this one time I'll eat meat".

Same here Shari. That's why I had to go cold turkey on sugar. No such thing as "a little bit" for me. So I stopped it altogether. As far as meat goes, I never liked it, never craved it and felt a weight lifted off me when I quit eating it. But when we have an addiction, that's a little different.

I can crave things, but not have an addiction to them. I have craved things like a bowl of pasta, eat some and I enjoy it and feel fine and may not eat it again for 2 months. An addiction is when I can't stop once I start. I had a serious addiction to sugar.

Gloria

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I ate strict vegetarian for a year in California then found

myself in a Maine winter. After about a month and a half I started

craving meat in a big way, it was even penetrating into my dreams. As

an experiment I ate chicken and the next day had the 3rd worse bowel

movement of my entire life but other than that felt good and lost the

cravings. I attribute the craving due to the difference in climate,

some of the yogi's in India have special yang tonics they take to

maintain balance in cold mountain areas during the winter without

violating their religous rules against taking meat. I think one that

Tierra mentions is calcified deer antler mixed with ginseng.

So either find a deer antler and reduce it in a crucible to white ash

and take that with ginseng or eat some meat and see what happens.

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I wish I could just give in to my cravings, Gloria, but I won't stop at "just this one time I'll eat meat". FOR ME, and I'm only speaking for me, it would be a trigger to open the flood gates and I would be back to eating SAD in no time at all. Sort of like me being an alcoholic, I can't have one drink because it will set off the mental obession and the physical craving for alcohol. And FOR ME eating meat, pasta, bread, any of my comfort foods would have exactly the same reaction.

Just my thoughts this HumpDay - Shari

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When one finds oneself in a colder clime one will tend to crave more

dense foods. The more intense of these cravings is for fat which the

body uses in more colder climes to provide the more longer burning

energy to sustain itself and maintain bodily heat. We humans tend to

associate this craving as being a craving for meat. It is actually a

craving for fat. The body does not use meat it uses fat. This is why I

suggested that eat more avocados, raw seeds and nuts as this will

provide more fat into his diet. However, he is more than welcome to eat

a cow if he so chooses.

Salt, although some cultures give it a yang thumbs up, is not something

I would consider as being constructive in this instance. This is just my

opinion and I am not getting down on anyone. I personally don't

recommend salt for anyone as it serves no purpose in the human organism.

Why allow something into the body that is non-nutritious and toxic besides?

Don

MorningGlory113@... wrote:

> I attribute the craving due to the difference in climate,

> some of the yogi's in India have special yang tonics

>

> I agree that 's cravings may be due to his need for more yang in

> his diet at this time. One way he can do this by increasing the amount

> of salt in his diet during the colder months.

>

> Gloria

>

>

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---- prayerfulmantis <prayerfulmantis@...> wrote:

> I ate strict vegetarian for a year in California then found

> myself in a Maine winter. After about a month and a half I started

> craving meat in a big way, it was even penetrating into my dreams. ...snip

>

I wonder if taking some olive oil would be enough fat to offset the desire for

fatty meat? ..any ideas? I don't have any desire whatsoever for fatty meat but

do sometimes have an obsession for sweets.. sinfully rich ones.

tvksi

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Well it might. However, olive oil is a fractionated food. One would be

much better off eating raw nuts, seeds, avocados, or ...olives. That way

one gets all the nourishment that nature packaged instead of just a

small portion. That is how it is meant to work, makes digesting of the

fats and oils much easier.

Don

leehen@... wrote:

> ---- prayerfulmantis <prayerfulmantis@...> wrote:

>

>> I ate strict vegetarian for a year in California then found

>> myself in a Maine winter. After about a month and a half I started

>> craving meat in a big way, it was even penetrating into my dreams. ...snip

>>

>>

> I wonder if taking some olive oil would be enough fat to offset the desire for

fatty meat? ..any ideas? I don't have any desire whatsoever for fatty meat but

do sometimes have an obsession for sweets.. sinfully rich ones.

> tvksi

>

>

>

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---- Don Eitner <mysticalherbalist@...> wrote:

> Well it might. However, olive oil is a fractionated food. One would be

> much better off eating raw nuts, seeds, avocados, or ...olives. That way

> one gets all the nourishment that nature packaged instead of just a

> small portion. That is how it is meant to work, makes digesting of the

> fats and oils much easier.

>

> Don

Been eating a lot of pecans and almonds lately. Always loved them but have been

obsessed with them these past two months. maybe the weather has something to do

with that...thanks

grany lee (tvksi)

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Yes we all have our weaknesses when it comes to diet. Mine is chocolate,

coffee, potatoes and beans. I am now potato free, bean free for over two

months and living on salads and lots of fruit. Still having chocolate,

but I only get the truly bitter kind 85%, keeps me from eating too much.

I am still working on getting the coffee where it should be and that is

anywhere where I am not. My downfall with coffee is I love the smell and

to satisfy that I will drink a cup of joe. Funny thing is I really don't

enjoy the taste though.

So much of our " diet " is tied up in memories, matter of fact it all is.

This is why we have comfort foods and is also an answer to a lot of

cravings. So we not only must work on the physical but also the mental

and emotional levels as well.

Don

SV wrote:

> Well, there you go Gloria. I never knew there was a difference. I

> must have an addiction to most all food! Seriously I cannot eat a

> bowl of pasta and be happy. I have to have it all and more . Same

> with bread. I cannot eat a slice, I have to eat the entire loaf and

> of course that involves butter and jam!

>

> Shari

>

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My downfall with coffee is I love the smell and

to satisfy that I will drink a cup of joe. Funny thing is I really don't

enjoy the taste though.

Same with me Don. It is so cold here and the first thing I did this morning was to put on a pot of coffee. Love the smell AND the taste. I am sipping a cup as I type right now and it is wonderful!!! lol!

Gloria

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Yea Gloria but the coffee over here is not drip or percolated like in

the States. Here all they drink is espresso. We're talking the rocket

fuel of coffee here. Now you see why I only have one a day.

Don

MorningGlory113@... wrote:

> My downfall with coffee is I love the smell and

> to satisfy that I will drink a cup of joe. Funny thing is I really don't

> enjoy the taste though.

>

> Same with me Don. It is so cold here and the first thing I did this

> morning was to put on a pot of coffee. Love the smell AND the taste. I

> am sipping a cup as I type right now and it is wonderful!!! lol!

>

> Gloria

>

>

>

>

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The longer the beans are roasted, the less caffeine. But espresso is so

concentrated, the question becomes moot.

I grew up smelling Ghirardelli Square roasting coffee beans in San

Francisco. Ah! the smell to die for!

Gayla

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Acampo, California

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From: " Don Eitner " <mysticalherbalist@...>

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Yea Gloria but the coffee over here is not drip or percolated like in

the States. Here all they drink is espresso.

I've only had espresso coffee once. Yes...it's a killer!...strong! But I wouldn't refuse a cup if offered ;-)

I don't like flavored coffees but love trying different brands and roasts. At work the main office gave us a HUGE amount (like two 5 lb. bags) of an organic coffee and I love it when they make it.

Gloria

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I don't care for flavored coffees either. But with an espresso house on

just about every street corner and one in between it is rather difficult

not to smell this stuff most anywhere you go. I have one almost next

door to where I live. I, when I am feeling like it, go and buy a double,

then I add distilled water until I have a full cup. This will last me

two day unless I am feeling really rowdy and drink it all at once.

MorningGlory113@... wrote:

> Yea Gloria but the coffee over here is not drip or percolated like in

> the States. Here all they drink is espresso.

>

> I've only had espresso coffee once. Yes...it's a killer!...strong! But

> I wouldn't refuse a cup if offered ;-)

> I don't like flavored coffees but love trying different brands and

> roasts. At work the main office gave us a HUGE amount (like two 5 lb.

> bags) of an organic coffee and I love it when they make it.

>

> Gloria

>

>

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God I love a good espresso. I have not had coffee in oh, probably 7

weeks but it is soooo good. We have a " little italy " here, and the

espressos are to DIE for. LOL. I stay away from that area as much as

possible - evil things live there - pasta, italian delis and

bakeries, and espresso LOL.

> > My downfall with coffee is I love the smell and

> > to satisfy that I will drink a cup of joe. Funny thing is I

really don't

> > enjoy the taste though.

> >

> > Same with me Don. It is so cold here and the first thing I did

this

> > morning was to put on a pot of coffee. Love the smell AND the

taste. I

> > am sipping a cup as I type right now and it is wonderful!!! lol!

> >

> > Gloria

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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