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My migraine is finally gone today. Mine settle in my left shoulder, and

that is still just a tiny bit sore. The two triclycics usually keep

them away, and I don't know why I got these anyway. Usually now if I do

get one, it's very mild, but the one yesterday was as bad as they get.

My husband does have guns in the house, but fortunately I don't know

how to use one, LOL. Sue

On Tuesday, November 29, 2005, at 08:38 PM, kerri paquette wrote:

> Amen to that! I'm on topamax, nortriptyline, relpax and phenergan for

> my migraines, but since I've started the MTX injection I've got one

> that just won't quit, max out on my meds every day, hoping its just

> temporary....

>

> I had my first when I was 7, was treated in the ER w/ fluids and

> Demerol, still the wonder way for me when it comes to kicking a bad

> one. Good luck with yours. I do know what that pain is like, it is the

> reason we don't keep hunting rifles in the house and thats no joke (my

> doctor says he tells most of his migraine sufferers to not keep guns

> in the house) I hope yours do go away and never come back.

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Do you have to have a prescription for it, ? Sue

On Wednesday, November 30, 2005, at 08:20 AM, Dobrowolski

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> He went over my medical history and decided to prescribe 400 mg. of

> riboflavin (vitamin B2) as a preventative. He told me to try it for

> three months. It has worked really well.

>

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Hi Kathy,

There is a product called Petadolex that helps with pressure in the head and

is supposed to help prevent migraines. I took it for quite a while but

still developed monthly migraines. Mine were hormone related so I didn't

stop getting them until my hormones were balanced.

Kenda

> Thanks Kenda

> Actually she has. It seems to work about as well as advil for her.

> Same for me. She has so many headaches that I am hoping to find

> some natural way to help her.

> Hugs, Kathy

>

>

>

>

>

> -- In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

>>

>> Hi Kathy,

>>

>> Has your daughter ever tried Excedrin Migraine for her migraines?

> I get

>> them occasionally too and Tylenol and Advil don't even touch

> them. Excedrin

>> Migraine works better than migraine prescriptions ever worked for

> me. It's

>> terrible on your liver, contains Tylenol, aspirin and caffeine but

> it knocks

>> a migraine out within 30 minutes if I catch it early. I am always

> on liver

>> supplements so it's worth it to me to take the drugs and get rid

> of the

>> headache. Herbals just don't work for my migraines. Lord knows I

> have

>> tried. :)

>>

>> Just thought I'd pass it on.

>>

>> Kenda

>>

>>>

>>> No Patty, I didn't. Thanks for pointing it out. I will tell

> him.

>>> Plus my daughter has alot of migraines and takes alot of advil

> too.

>>> I think I will put her on milk thistle.

>>> Hugs, Kathy

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Kathy,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> They make dental mouthpieces that you wear at night to

>>>>>> keep your jaw relaxed . . . This can give TMJ a chance

>>>>>> to settle down. Chances are, your husband clamps his

>>>>>> jaw or grinds his teeth.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Personally, I couldn't keep it in my mouth at night -

>>>>>> I'd have to hunt it down with I woke up . . . but I

>>>>>> found that I could put it in for a brief time during

>>>>>> the day . . . It would break the cycle of tension,

>>>>>> then my jaw would be relaxed.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> One dentist told me that I could practice making my

>>>>>> tongue as wide a possible, covering my molars, to

>>>>>> break a cycle of clenching too.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Hugs,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Rogene

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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> health care

>>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>>>

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>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time

>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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is definitely hormone sensitve but also gets them other times

of the month. At eighteen I really dont know how to get her

hormones balanced. She really wanted to try the pill for her

terrible cramps but after we talked about the risks, she decided to

wait. Wish I had some answers for her.

Hugs,Kathy

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Kathy,

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> They make dental mouthpieces that you wear at night to

> >>>>>> keep your jaw relaxed . . . This can give TMJ a chance

> >>>>>> to settle down. Chances are, your husband clamps his

> >>>>>> jaw or grinds his teeth.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Personally, I couldn't keep it in my mouth at night -

> >>>>>> I'd have to hunt it down with I woke up . . . but I

> >>>>>> found that I could put it in for a brief time during

> >>>>>> the day . . . It would break the cycle of tension,

> >>>>>> then my jaw would be relaxed.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> One dentist told me that I could practice making my

> >>>>>> tongue as wide a possible, covering my molars, to

> >>>>>> break a cycle of clenching too.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Hugs,

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Rogene

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > given by licensed

> >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > health care

> >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>>

> >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > mislead you.

> >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

> > how to live a

> >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time

> >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>>

> >>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

link:

> >>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >>>

> >>>

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Kathy,

Have you read about Dr. Max Gerson and how he cured his migraines?

It was all through diet. He had to completely eliminate salt. I

can't remember what else, but you can read about it in the Gerson

therapy books, or the biographical one called Healing the Hopeless.

That was what started him into his quest for healing for other

diseases.

Patty

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> Kathy,

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> They make dental mouthpieces that you wear at night to

> > >>>>>> keep your jaw relaxed . . . This can give TMJ a chance

> > >>>>>> to settle down. Chances are, your husband clamps his

> > >>>>>> jaw or grinds his teeth.

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> Personally, I couldn't keep it in my mouth at night -

> > >>>>>> I'd have to hunt it down with I woke up . . . but I

> > >>>>>> found that I could put it in for a brief time during

> > >>>>>> the day . . . It would break the cycle of tension,

> > >>>>>> then my jaw would be relaxed.

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> One dentist told me that I could practice making my

> > >>>>>> tongue as wide a possible, covering my molars, to

> > >>>>>> break a cycle of clenching too.

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> Hugs,

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> Rogene

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

> > > given by licensed

> > >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> > > health care

> > >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > >>>

> > >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> > > mislead you.

> > >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about

> > > how to live a

> > >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> ing,

> > > two-time

> > >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >>>

> > >>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this

> link:

> > >>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > >>>

> > >>>

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Max Gerson, M.D. was born October 18, 1881 in Wongrowitz, Germany.

He attended the universities of Breslau, Wuerzburg and Berlin, and

graduated from the University of Freiburg. Dr. Gerson, who suffered

from severe migraines, discovered that a change in diet prevented

the onset of these crippling headaches.

(By 1919, when Gerson set up a practice in internal and nervous

diseases in Bielefeld, he had devised an effective dietary treatment

for the migraine headaches which frequently disabled him, despite

the best efforts of his colleagues. In 1920, while treating migraine

patients by this salt-free vegetarian diet, he discovered that it

was also effective in lupus vulgaris (tuberculosis of the skin, then

considered incurable) and, later, in arthritis as well (U.S.

Congress, 1946, 98).

His outlook on the nature and treatment of degenerative disease

shifted dramatically. Dr. Gerson published his findings on skin

tuberculosis in a dozen of the world's leading medical journals,

establishing the Gerson Therapy as the first cure for this disease.

Through his work with tuberculosis, Dr. Gerson attracted the

friendship of Albert Schweitzer, M.D. In 1931, after nine months on

the therapy, Mrs. Helene Bresslau-Schweitzer (1879-1957) was cured

of lung tuberculosis. Dr. Schweitzer himself came to Dr. Gerson at

age 75 depressed and weary with advanced adult onset diabetes. In a

few weeks Dr. Schweitzer was completely off his heavy insulin

dosage. He returned to Africa, invigorated and full of optimism.

This great humanitarian worked past age 90 and was honored with the

Nobel Peace Prize for his medical missionary work. Schweitzer

followed Gerson's progress over the years, seeing the dietary

therapy successfully applied further to heart disease, kidney

failure and cancer.

Prior to World War II, Dr. Gerson and his family immigrated to the

United States. In 1938 he passed his medical board exams and

received his license to practice medicine in the state of New York.

For twenty years, he treated hundreds of cancer patients who had

been given up to die after all conventional treatment had failed.

Although only a handful of peer-reviewed journals were receptive to

the " radical " idea of using nutrition in the treatment and

prevention of disease, Dr. Gerson continued publishing articles on

his therapy in Europe. In 1958, based upon thirty years of

experimentation, Dr. Gerson published his theory, treatment plan and

case studies here in this medical monograph, A Cancer Therapy:

Result of 50 Cases.

Dr. Gerson, a pioneer in holistic health, was a man of vision. He

was correct in his prediction that a toxic environment combined with

a diet deficient in essential nutrients would lead to the escalation

of cancer and many other degenerative diseases. Although ridiculed

in his time, research finding now confirm that nutrition is a

powerful and effective means of treating disease.

Dr. Max Gerson died in 1959, eulogized by Dr. Albert Schweitzer, who

wrote: " I see in him one of the most eminent geniuses in the history

of medicine. Many of his basic ideas have been adopted without

having his name connected with them. Yet, he has achieved more than

seemed possible under adverse conditions. He leaves a legacy which

commands attention and which will assure him his due place. Those

whom he has cured will now attest to the truth of his ideas. "

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>> Kathy,

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>> They make dental mouthpieces that you wear at night to

> > > >>>>>> keep your jaw relaxed . . . This can give TMJ a chance

> > > >>>>>> to settle down. Chances are, your husband clamps his

> > > >>>>>> jaw or grinds his teeth.

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>> Personally, I couldn't keep it in my mouth at night -

> > > >>>>>> I'd have to hunt it down with I woke up . . . but I

> > > >>>>>> found that I could put it in for a brief time during

> > > >>>>>> the day . . . It would break the cycle of tension,

> > > >>>>>> then my jaw would be relaxed.

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>> One dentist told me that I could practice making my

> > > >>>>>> tongue as wide a possible, covering my molars, to

> > > >>>>>> break a cycle of clenching too.

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>> Hugs,

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>> Rogene

> > > >>>>>>

> > > >>>>>

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

advice

> > > > given by licensed

> > > >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > > > health care

> > > >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> > > > mislead you.

> > > >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

> about

> > > > how to live a

> > > >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> > ing,

> > > > two-time

> > > >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >>>

> > > >>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at

this

> > link:

> > > >>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

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Thanks Patty

I might look into this more. She only eats celtic sea salt at

home. But forget the rest of the diet. At 18, she will only eat

what she wants. She doesn't believe in most of the things I do--

such as organic, etc. Teens are so frustrating!!!

Kathy

-- In , " glory2glory1401 "

<glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

>

> Max Gerson, M.D. was born October 18, 1881 in Wongrowitz, Germany.

> He attended the universities of Breslau, Wuerzburg and Berlin, and

> graduated from the University of Freiburg. Dr. Gerson, who

suffered

> from severe migraines, discovered that a change in diet prevented

> the onset of these crippling headaches.

>

> (By 1919, when Gerson set up a practice in internal and nervous

> diseases in Bielefeld, he had devised an effective dietary

treatment

> for the migraine headaches which frequently disabled him, despite

> the best efforts of his colleagues. In 1920, while treating

migraine

> patients by this salt-free vegetarian diet, he discovered that it

> was also effective in lupus vulgaris (tuberculosis of the skin,

then

> considered incurable) and, later, in arthritis as well (U.S.

> Congress, 1946, 98).

>

> His outlook on the nature and treatment of degenerative disease

> shifted dramatically. Dr. Gerson published his findings on skin

> tuberculosis in a dozen of the world's leading medical journals,

> establishing the Gerson Therapy as the first cure for this disease.

>

> Through his work with tuberculosis, Dr. Gerson attracted the

> friendship of Albert Schweitzer, M.D. In 1931, after nine months

on

> the therapy, Mrs. Helene Bresslau-Schweitzer (1879-1957) was cured

> of lung tuberculosis. Dr. Schweitzer himself came to Dr. Gerson at

> age 75 depressed and weary with advanced adult onset diabetes. In

a

> few weeks Dr. Schweitzer was completely off his heavy insulin

> dosage. He returned to Africa, invigorated and full of optimism.

> This great humanitarian worked past age 90 and was honored with

the

> Nobel Peace Prize for his medical missionary work. Schweitzer

> followed Gerson's progress over the years, seeing the dietary

> therapy successfully applied further to heart disease, kidney

> failure and cancer.

>

> Prior to World War II, Dr. Gerson and his family immigrated to the

> United States. In 1938 he passed his medical board exams and

> received his license to practice medicine in the state of New

York.

> For twenty years, he treated hundreds of cancer patients who had

> been given up to die after all conventional treatment had failed.

> Although only a handful of peer-reviewed journals were receptive

to

> the " radical " idea of using nutrition in the treatment and

> prevention of disease, Dr. Gerson continued publishing articles on

> his therapy in Europe. In 1958, based upon thirty years of

> experimentation, Dr. Gerson published his theory, treatment plan

and

> case studies here in this medical monograph, A Cancer Therapy:

> Result of 50 Cases.

>

> Dr. Gerson, a pioneer in holistic health, was a man of vision. He

> was correct in his prediction that a toxic environment combined

with

> a diet deficient in essential nutrients would lead to the

escalation

> of cancer and many other degenerative diseases. Although ridiculed

> in his time, research finding now confirm that nutrition is a

> powerful and effective means of treating disease.

>

> Dr. Max Gerson died in 1959, eulogized by Dr. Albert Schweitzer,

who

> wrote: " I see in him one of the most eminent geniuses in the

history

> of medicine. Many of his basic ideas have been adopted without

> having his name connected with them. Yet, he has achieved more

than

> seemed possible under adverse conditions. He leaves a legacy which

> commands attention and which will assure him his due place. Those

> whom he has cured will now attest to the truth of his ideas. "

>

>

>

> > > > >>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>> Kathy,

> > > > >>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>> They make dental mouthpieces that you wear at night to

> > > > >>>>>> keep your jaw relaxed . . . This can give TMJ a chance

> > > > >>>>>> to settle down. Chances are, your husband clamps his

> > > > >>>>>> jaw or grinds his teeth.

> > > > >>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>> Personally, I couldn't keep it in my mouth at night -

> > > > >>>>>> I'd have to hunt it down with I woke up . . . but I

> > > > >>>>>> found that I could put it in for a brief time during

> > > > >>>>>> the day . . . It would break the cycle of tension,

> > > > >>>>>> then my jaw would be relaxed.

> > > > >>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>> One dentist told me that I could practice making my

> > > > >>>>>> tongue as wide a possible, covering my molars, to

> > > > >>>>>> break a cycle of clenching too.

> > > > >>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>> Hugs,

> > > > >>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>> Rogene

> > > > >>>>>>

> > > > >>>>>

> > > > >>>>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

> advice

> > > > > given by licensed

> > > > >>> health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> licensed

> > > > > health care

> > > > >>> professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians

> > > > > mislead you.

> > > > >>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

> > about

> > > > > how to live a

> > > > >>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

> > > ing,

> > > > > two-time

> > > > >>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at

> this

> > > link:

> > > > >>> http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>>

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Back in California, at the church we attended, there were several of

us that suffered frequent migraines. We all had different symptoms,

different triggers, and different results. One man, a dear friend and

also the father of my wonderful son-in-law, said he knew someone that

had migraines, but didn't get the headache pain. No pain at all, just

the " sparkles " , the nausea, the light sensitivity, etc.

I beleive the term " Migraines " is a blanket term to cover a multitude

of conditions.

Just my 2 pesos

Peace, love, laughter

" I went to San Francisco. I found someone's heart. Now what? "

>

> no. I mean there several different types of migraines.

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So do my son and daughter.... Specifically B2 (riboflavin) .

*~ Kami ~*

[ ] migraines

My email friend said to pass on that B multiple vitamins and magnesium

helps keep her migraines away. I take those also.

Debbie L

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I was on Inderal for years to prevent migraines, but I still got

plenty. I don't think it prevented any, but I was afraid that if I

stopped taking it, I would get even more.

I will be eternally grateful to the doctor who cured my migraines.

Sue

On Saturday, November 1, 2008, at 08:26 PM, ~ Kami ~ wrote:

>

> My son was on Inderal for a while as a preventative but is now

> migraine free after switching to 200 mg of B2 and 400 mg of Magnesium

> a day.

>

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I think they are related to excessive exertion.

I drink lots of coffee and eat lots of dark chocolate, and migraines are mostly

tied into how much I did yesterday. If I over-did things, a migraine is a

possibility.

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I have visual migraines occasionally. A shimmery light starts as a pinprick and

grows so that I cannot see much, and then moves off to one side or another

before going away completely. It takes ~20-30 minutes from start to finish. I

usually close my eyes and enjoy the light show because trying to focus on

anything while it is going on is pretty much pointless. I thank the gods that I

only have the visual ones and none of the other symptoms of migraines such as

headaches or pain/sensitivity to light.

Of course, the first time it happened I was out shopping and I quietly freaked

out because I thought I was going blind! I went to the eye dr in a panic the

next day and after examining me, he reassured me and told me what to expect.

Now I just get to a safe place (ie: pull over if I am driving) and ride it out.

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Someone on a different CMT forum says that drinking lots of coffee is

bad for CMTer's, so I limit myself most days to 1 latte and 1 coffee

in the morning. If I have a busy evening ahead and am really tired,

I will have a cup of coffee after work to keep me going. Does

drinking a lot of coffee affect your CMT in any way, or do you think

it may it contribute to your migraines? This is a topic I am

wondering about.

Thanks,

Bonnie

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I suffered from migraines in college (didn't even know I had CMT then) and the

cure was a drug with caffeine to help curb the migraines. So while a heavy

consumption of coffee is not good for migraines, caffeine is used to make

migraines go away. I guess there is a fine line. I personally, love coffee and

consider it my only vice, so therefore, I am not going to stop. I haven't had

the migraines since college (I am now 53) and cannot think of starting a day

without a good cup of coffee. As with anything in life, moderation is the key.

Karon

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I used to have severe migrane headaches--chiropractic treatments do wonder's!!

Mine were always on the right side basically centered in/around right eye. I

could move the pain from my eye along the side of my head to back behind my

ear--pinched nerves. Used to have the severe vomiting, no lights, sound --the

works.. I know not everyone gets the relief I did but I firmly believe in it.

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, that happened to me once. Pretty scary at the time. I was pregnant at the

time so everyone was freaking out thinking I'd had a stroke. I was walking with

my daughter in the stroller and all of a sudden the world went all sparkly, then

like a white screen. I didn't want to scare my daughter so I just stood there

and pretended I was looking at a tree until the world came sparkling back a

minute or two later. No pain, no dizziness. It's never happened again. A

neurologist at the time confirmed it as a visual migraine and informed me that

my usual headaches were actually migraines too. I had always thought they had to

be intractable and devastating, but it's more the quality of the headache that

gets the diagnosis. BTW, the neurologist pointed out that it was a " positive "

image -- in otherwords I was seeing " something " - sparkles and white. If it had

been a " negative " image (going black) it would have been a worry for stroke.

Holli

>

> I have visual migraines occasionally. A shimmery light starts as a pinprick

and grows so that I cannot see much, and then moves off to one side or another

before going away completely. It takes ~20-30 minutes from start to finish. I

usually close my eyes and enjoy the light show because trying to focus on

anything while it is going on is pretty much pointless. I thank the gods that I

only have the visual ones and none of the other symptoms of migraines such as

headaches or pain/sensitivity to light.

>

> Of course, the first time it happened I was out shopping and I quietly freaked

out because I thought I was going blind! I went to the eye dr in a panic the

next day and after examining me, he reassured me and told me what to expect.

Now I just get to a safe place (ie: pull over if I am driving) and ride it out.

>

>

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