Re: Gastric Bypass -- spelling it right here

[Guest guest]

Some gastric bypasses can be reversed, some can't. Some are dangerous

to attempt to reverse. So it depends on what procedure they did on

her. The clear patch she's wearing may be a Duragesic (Fentanyl)

patch used for chronic pain relief. If that's what she has, be sure to

let her know not to let it get hot as it starts releasing it's

narcotic rapidly then. Have a friend with same and experience with

911 because the patch got hot.

She's going to have a problem with any supplement that isn't liquid

going into her. She probably doesn't have a long enough digestion

tract time to allow pills or capsules to dissolve. Perhaps something

like the powdered All One vitamins that you put in juice, shake then

drink it down. They are pretty potent from what I've found. She could

perhaps add to it something like a whey protein powder.

Hope that's of some help.

Skip

On 2/26/07, cgiambri <cgiambri@...> wrote:

> The same message as I just deleted but needed to get gastric bypass

> spelt right.

>

> Here was the message. Please post your sharings here:

>

> " Gosh, darn it while at the massage bed place I met this darling 27

> year old who had the GASTIC BYPASS surgery 6 months ago. Had no one

> to advise her

> so she opted for it. She is on tons of supplements, she is super

> depressed, can't get herself out of bed, going, feels like she is

> dying, etc. She is eating less than a bird. Can this be reversed?

>

> She needs more protein she said; has to drink water and then wait

> hour. She sounds very malnourished. She does drink lots of water.

>

> Any suggestions I can offer her. I'm going to send her to

> curezone.com too.

>

> Maybe she can get the support of others. Oh she lost 100 pounds.

> Was on 14 meds, now got rid of 2 narcotic ones.

>

> She's wearning this clear scotch tape thing on her chest. Think it

> has to do with the narcotics, but I don't know.

>

> Tomorrow we are meeting. I just want to be an encouraging friend or

> mom image as she doesn't have any one. I want to do everything in

> love and be a light and that's all I can be. She is going to watch

> the Secret as she is very negative too. Oh 3 kids..I think the

> yongest is hers: 6 years old.

>

> That's it and thanks.

> carolg........still dealing with a tooth challenge..may have

> something going on under recent crown...plus the dead tooth...feel

> tenderness in both areas..... "

[Guest guest]

Hey Skip. (and Carol) What about complete nutrition???? Carol, this is something I would suggest naturopath deal with since she has had the surgery and has the patch... I would suggest a blender, smoothie machine, or something to drink raw veggies etc.. SuziSkip <avskip@...> wrote: Some gastric bypasses can be reversed, some can't. Some are dangerousto attempt to reverse. So it depends on what procedure they did onher. The clear patch she's wearing may be a Duragesic (Fentanyl)patch used for chronic pain relief. If that's what she has, be sure tolet her know not to let it get hot as it starts releasing it'snarcotic rapidly then. Have a friend with same and experience with911 because the patch got hot.She's going to have a problem

with any supplement that isn't liquidgoing into her. She probably doesn't have a long enough digestiontract time to allow pills or capsules to dissolve. Perhaps somethinglike the powdered All One vitamins that you put in juice, shake thendrink it down. They are pretty potent from what I've found. She couldperhaps add to it something like a whey protein powder.Hope that's of some help.Skip

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[Guest guest]

I’m afraid I can’t tell you if

it is reversible because I don’t know what they did. Most of the

time they are not. If they resected part of her stomach, the rest will

stretch in time. Also, if she is on that many drugs she must have other

problems, most likely related to morbid obesity. Once her weight is down

to a healthier level some of these conditions may resolve on their own. Being

a good supportive friend is the best thing you can do for her. Sometimes

just bringing someone up out of that negative depressed state will do miracles

for their health.

Janet

From:

health

[mailto:health ] On Behalf Of cgiambri

Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007

8:40 PM

To:

health

Subject:

Gastric Bypass -- spelling it right here

The same message as I just deleted but needed to get

gastric bypass

spelt right.

Here was the message. Please post your sharings here:

" Gosh, darn it while at the massage bed place I met this darling 27

year old who had the GASTIC BYPASS surgery 6 months ago. Had no one

to advise her

so she opted for it. She is on tons of supplements, she is super

depressed, can't get herself out of bed, going, feels like she is

dying, etc. She is eating less than a bird. Can this be reversed?

She needs more protein she said; has to drink water and then wait

hour. She sounds very malnourished. She does drink lots of water.

Any suggestions I can offer her. I'm going to send her to

curezone.com too.

Maybe she can get the support of others. Oh she lost 100 pounds.

Was on 14 meds, now got rid of 2 narcotic ones.

She's wearning this clear scotch tape thing on her chest. Think it

has to do with the narcotics, but I don't know.

Tomorrow we are meeting. I just want to be an encouraging friend or

mom image as she doesn't have any one. I want to do everything in

love and be a light and that's all I can be. She is going to watch

the Secret as she is very negative too. Oh 3 kids..I think the

yongest is hers: 6 years old.

That's it and thanks.

carolg........still dealing with a tooth challenge..may have

something going on under recent crown...plus the dead tooth...feel

tenderness in both areas..... "

[Guest guest]

I don't know the comparison between Complete Nutrition and the vitamins. Don't know how she would react on the CN. All you can do is try!! Home juicing is always a good idea too.

Skip

On 2/27/07, Suzanne <suziesgoats@...> wrote:

Hey Skip. (and Carol)

What about complete nutrition???? Carol, this is something I would suggest naturopath deal with since she has had the surgery and has the patch... I would suggest a blender, smoothie machine, or something to drink raw veggies etc..

SuziSkip <avskip@...> wrote:

Some gastric bypasses can be reversed, some can't. Some are dangerousto attempt to reverse. So it depends on what procedure they did on

her. The clear patch she's wearing may be a Duragesic (Fentanyl)patch used for chronic pain relief. If that's what she has, be sure tolet her know not to let it get hot as it starts releasing it's

narcotic rapidly then. Have a friend with same and experience with911 because the patch got hot.She's going to have a problem with any supplement that isn't liquidgoing into her. She probably doesn't have a long enough digestion

tract time to allow pills or capsules to dissolve. Perhaps somethinglike the powdered All One vitamins that you put in juice, shake thendrink it down. They are pretty potent from what I've found. She could

perhaps add to it something like a whey protein powder.Hope that's of some help.Skip

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Skip,

Thanks tons. I didn't even know there were various types of gastric

bypasses.

I tried calling this young girl yesterday and no answer nor saw her

at the massage bed place. She said she has been extremely depressed

since 14 and now 27. She obviously regrets this surgery to some

degree. On the beds it can get very hot, but if she doesn't put

this " ball " on her chest it would not touch that patch. Yikes.

Thanks again for all the help. I will pass it on. I can see why she

would be depressed even taking the wrong supplements.

carolg

>

> Some gastric bypasses can be reversed, some can't. Some are

dangerous

> to attempt to reverse. So it depends on what procedure they did on

> her. The clear patch she's wearing may be a Duragesic (Fentanyl)

> patch used for chronic pain relief. If that's what she has, be

sure to

> let her know not to let it get hot as it starts releasing it's

> narcotic rapidly then. Have a friend with same and experience with

> 911 because the patch got hot.

>

> She's going to have a problem with any supplement that isn't liquid

> going into her. She probably doesn't have a long enough digestion

> tract time to allow pills or capsules to dissolve. Perhaps

something

> like the powdered All One vitamins that you put in juice, shake

then

> drink it down. They are pretty potent from what I've found. She

could

> perhaps add to it something like a whey protein powder.

>

> Hope that's of some help.

>

> Skip

[Guest guest]

Suzi,

Yesteday I made a smoothie and brought it with me to the massage

place for her and the staff. The staff loved it, she wasn't there,

nor reachable via cell or home phone. She surely needs help.

Thanks.

Nursing a " tooth or teeth " before I get to dentist tomorrow. I

surely have infection in mouth and choose to go the antibiotic with

alternative route since last night for the drugs. Today snow, so

appt. moved to tomorrow per me. Thanks.

carolg

> Some gastric bypasses can be reversed, some can't. Some are

dangerous

[Guest guest]

Janet,

Thought I could be a friend/sort of motherish image, to this young

girl but it may be impossible if she doesn't answer her phone. I know

for me in that situation I would want someone that encourages them.

She was so excited when she met me, but maybe I was a big high and

then she dropped to a very low low when she got out of that high

feeling.

carolg

>

> I'm afraid I can't tell you if it is reversible because I don't know

what

> they did. Most of the time they are not. If they resected part of

her

[Guest guest]

Carol, Remember super or complete tonic .. swish it around in your mouth for antibiotic help. Suzicgiambri <cgiambri@...> wrote: Suzi,Yesteday I made a smoothie and brought it with me to the massage place for her and the staff. The staff loved it, she wasn't there, nor reachable via cell or home phone. She surely needs help. Thanks.Nursing a "tooth or teeth" before I get to dentist tomorrow. I surely have infection in mouth and choose to go the antibiotic with alternative route since last night for the drugs. Today snow, so appt. moved to tomorrow per me. Thanks.carolg

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[Guest guest]

Suzi,

Where would I find super or complete tonic you referenced. The pain

is gone now. The dentist is this afternoon.

The article Kathy posted was great.

My keyboard is refusing to delete in clumps so sorry if you have

still the remains of articles from me. Maybe I need unplug the

keyboard. I hate it so maybe an excuse to find a Dell one out there.

carolg

In health , Suzanne <suziesgoats@...>

wrote:

>

> Carol,

> Remember super or complete tonic .. swish it around in your

mouth for antibiotic help.

> Suzi

>

> cgiambri <cgiambri@...> wrote:

> Suzi,

> Yesteday I made a smoothie and brought it with me to the massage

[Guest guest]

Well at least you tried Carol that’s

the important thing.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of cgiambri

Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007

7:42 AM

health

Subject:

Re: Gastric Bypass -- spelling it right here

Janet,

Thought I could be a friend/sort of motherish image, to this young

girl but it may be impossible if she doesn't answer her phone. I know

for me in that situation I would want someone that encourages them.

She was so excited when she met me, but maybe I was a big high and

then she dropped to a very low low when she got out of that high

feeling.

carolg

>

> I'm afraid I can't tell you if it is reversible because I don't know

what

> they did. Most of the time they are not. If they resected part of

her