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organic heirloom tomatoes we get $3 a pound. For the killer yellow cherry tomatoes that make believers of tomato lovers, we get $3 for a 12 ounce basket.

I have gotten gigantic organic heirloom tomatoes at that market (both red and yellow) 3 for $1.00. Both yellow and red organic cherry tomatoes and grape tomatoes are 50 cents a box. So that's why I don't bother growing my own. I just grow some herbs because I like the idea (and taste) of having fresh herbs from my garden.

Every week the organic produce there changes. Whatever they can get is what shows up. But it's always a surprise and cheap. They don't usually advertise it as organic and so I have to keep on the lookout. One week I bought a nice big bundle of asparagus for a dollar. When I got home I saw "certified organic" stamped on the rubber band and wished I had bought 3 of them. Too late. Gotta keep on top of things at that place! To them asparagus is asparagus. LOL!

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Oh..this is funny and something I just remembered. Gives an idea of the mindset of these market vendors. One week I was shopping at a stand and I spotted crates of organic salad greens and organic arugula. The owner's son was just starting to put boxes of them on the table and asked his father what price to put on it. The father looked over and said.."oh, just make that organic crap 50 cents a box". Organic CRAP. LOL! Some of them consider organic INFERIOR to the other stuff and just want to unload it!! It's always an adventure shopping there!

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I guess the stores here sell for full price then toss them into the barrel for the pig man to take away. They rarely have a discount corner here any more.

Same here Gayla. The organic produce at the supermarket comes once a week. I can usually tell when they'll get it...the produce will be very low and looking pretty shabby and I know a new shipment will be there the next day. But what do they do with the "old stuff"? Maybe they give it back to them??? We don't have discount section anymore either.

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Organic crap! Yes, there are many growers selling awful, bug eaten poor organic crap.

I never see any bad bug eaten stuff at this market. They wouldn't pull it off because the competition is too stiff. But I think some of these country vendors see "organic" as something only snobby people care about. And at this market that might be true...many people just don't care. I've been at a stand getting an organic papaya for 50 cents and another customer standing next to me says what a great deal a 50 cent papaya is. I'll say "and it's even organic"!.. and at that point they look at me with a blank look that clearly says "Huh?...who cares about that"? I see that over and over.

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Some stores get their shorts in a bunch over liability and put it in the dumpster.

I'd be willing to sign a waiver if they want to give it to me. Some of the "old stuff" really doesn't look too bad. But I know it's a corporate thing and they wouldn't give it to me.

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Some do-gooder came along and said it was a health risk and from then on it all had to be tossed in the dumpster.

There HAS to be some way to get around that...signing waivers etc. It should be available to those in need. I know some restaurants and even farmers donate leftovers to food banks around here because I've read about them in the paper.

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Don't even get me started on all this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Time for the serenity prayer, Shari. "To accept the things I cannot change". Sometimes it's the only way to handle things that would otherwise push us over the edge.

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I've purchased pineapples at the grocery store for a dollar. They were

very ripe and oh so good.

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>> there is no way they can be that price unless someone is buying left

>> overs somewhere.

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>> They have a weekly local produce auction here and some of the vendors

>> go and just grab boxes of stuff in quantity. Much of it is either

>> surplus that is still very fresh and some is produce that has only a

>> week left before the expiration date. They sell it at the market the

>> next day so it is still good but they have to sell it cheap for it to

>> move. I usually get the organic pineapples for $1.00 but have gotten

>> them 2 for $1.00 when

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"...I need to concentrate not so much on what needs to be changed in the world as on what needs to be changed in me and in my attitudes." page 449, 3rd edition, Alcoholics Anonymous

This is so true. We can't change what's outside of us, but we can change "us" and our attitudes toward others and the world.

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Wow! Lucky you. If I got produce for those prices, I might not be growing my own. For organic heirloom tomatoes we get $3 a pound. For the killer yellow cherry tomatoes that make believers of tomato lovers, we get $3 for a 12 ounce basket. I can afford to grow a small garden for those prices.

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there is no way they can be that price unless someone is buying left overs somewhere. They have a weekly local produce auction here and some of the vendors go and just grab boxes of stuff in quantity. Much of it is either surplus that is still very fresh and some is produce that has only a week left before the expiration date. They sell it at the market the next day so it is still good but they have to sell it cheap for it to move. I usually get the organic pineapples for $1.00 but have gotten them 2 for $1.00 when they have crates and crates of them and want to move them fast. They have always been wonderful. I also get cases (12) of organic mangoes for $3.00...nothing wrong with them. I can't help thinking there has got to be so much produce these farmers grow that goes to waste. The vendors at this market grab them and I get the benefits. I can't even imagine what they pay for this stuff but it must be next to nothing. I am very very lucky to have access to all of this. I have NEVER paid more than 50 cents a lb. for organic tomatoes or 35 cents each for organic red or green bell peppers that have nothing wrong with them.Even the local farmers who grow organic food maintain those same price in order to compete. Last year one organic farmer finally had to pick up and leave. He couldn't keep selling his organic produce at rock bottom prices (5 large zucchini for a dollar), but he had no choice...at this particular market he had to have competitive prices with the rest of the farmers. Many people here don't care if it's organic or not. They want CHEAP and tastes good!Gloria

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I guess the stores here sell for full price then toss them into the barrel for the pig man to take away. They rarely have a discount corner here any more.

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I've purchased pineapples at the grocery store for a dollar.

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Organic crap! Yes, there are many growers selling awful, bug eaten poor organic crap. They just mean they don't spray and use chemical fertilizers. They don't feed the soil to grow healthy plants. LOL Organic crap, indeed!

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"But what do they do with the "old stuff"? Maybe they give it back to them??? "

Usually someone comes by the store and picks it up for chickens, pigs, cattle etc. Some stores get their shorts in a bunch over liability and put it in the dumpster.

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It really is - but it's because so many of those people that accept the stuff have sued and the companies don't want to risk it any more.

> Yes, it's amazing that you cannot donate excess garden food to the > homeless shelters or to the food banks. Really makes me crazy!

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There was a group collecting store produce on it's last day on the

shelf to feed it to folks that day at the food kitchens for the

homeless and poor. Some do-gooder came along and said it was a health

risk and from then on it all had to be tossed in the dumpster. So not

even us pigs can have it now.

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Gayla wrote:

"But what do they do with the "old stuff"?

Maybe they give it back to them??? "

Usually someone

comes by the store and picks it up for chickens, pigs, cattle etc. Some

stores get their shorts in a bunch over liability and put it in the

dumpster.

Gayla

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Acampo, California

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Bill Barnhill is our Inspiration! Go Bill!!!

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It would be nice if some folks kept their noses in their own business.

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlBill Barnhill is our Inspiration! Go Bill!!!aeranch@...

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There was a group collecting store produce on it's last day on the shelf to feed it to folks that day at the food kitchens for the homeless and poor. Some do-gooder came along and said it was a health risk and from then on it all had to be tossed in the dumpster. So not even us pigs can have it now.~Gayla wrote:

"But what do they do with the "old stuff"? Maybe they give it back to them??? "

Usually someone comes by the store and picks it up for chickens, pigs, cattle etc. Some stores get their shorts in a bunch over liability and put it in the dumpster.

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I used to send some of mine to the Salvation Army halfway house when I had extras. This particular one does a really good job. But my friends also get some - the woman that gives me aged horse manure for my garden and loads it in my truck. A few others - my 85 year old neighbor who drools over tomatoes. Chickens and goats get the next best and only inedibles go to the compost heap.

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Some do-gooder came along and said it was a health risk and from then on it all had to be tossed in the dumpster. There HAS to be some way to get around that...signing waivers etc. It should be available to those in need. I know some restaurants and even farmers donate leftovers to food banks around here because I've read about them in the paper.Gloria**************************************Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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Yes, it's amazing that you cannot donate excess garden food to the homeless shelters or to the food banks. Really makes me crazy! BUT the government can unload all their tainted hamburger and artery clogging cheese and butter off on the folks who least need it, namely the homeless and low income uninsured folks.

Don't even get me started on all this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thanks Gloria, better one for me is:

"...I need to concentrate not so much on what needs to be changed in the world as on what needs to be changed in me and in my attitudes." page 449, 3rd edition, Alcoholics Anonymous

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....not to mention the things they do with their depleted uranium.

(boy did I read that wrong the first three times, I read the homeless

and low income didn't need the food. Don't need the added health risks

for those who read like I do)

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> Yes, it's amazing that you cannot donate excess garden food to the

> homeless shelters or to the food banks. Really makes me crazy! BUT

> the government can unload all their tainted hamburger and artery

> clogging cheese and butter off on the folks who least need it, namely

> the homeless and low income uninsured folks.

>

> Don't even get me started on all this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Shari

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