Red Clover

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Hi

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> hello , have just been enlightened on the subject of red clover ,

apparently,the cynaide in the clover sprouts is 100 x stronger than in

apricot kernels , my naturopath agreed , but said no harm would come of

> using the sprouts as well as kernels.....ummm , any input here ?

Red clover sprouts are fairly toxic, I would use caution. Mature red

clover plants are phytoestrogenic (see below) and tend to stimulate

the body's own reproductive hormones in low doses and suppress them in

high doses.

>Also mentioning the clover to him , he gave me the brand name

" promensil " , which is specifically designed for menopausal women , it

contains( Trifolium pratense , plus 40mg of a standard ratio of

isoflavins 65%biochanin A 35%formononetin,diadzein @ genistein ,

> what is that stuff ?

Phytoestrogens -- i.e. estrogen-like hormones of plant origin. Useful

to support normal hormonal functions and to counteract the effects of

xenoestrogens (estrogen-like hormone-like substances of chemical

pollution origins ubiquitous in the environment, notably originating

in plastics and pesticides, that are likely to be the main culprit in

estrogen-dependent cancers, unlike what conventional wisdom would have

you believe about estrogen-dependent cancers being promoted by natural

estrogen in the body -- one of the most ludicrous blunders of clinical

thinking I've ever encountered). Phytoestrogens do not have the same

cancer-promoting effects as xenoestrogens and, on the contrary, will

occupy the receptor sites that would otherwise be available to

xenoestrogens, especially in the age-related or illness-related

downregulation of natural estrogens in the body.

> I havent started on them yet , was hoping for a little information

on the subject. . naturopath also said one or two cups good quality

coffee was ok , no sugar , no milk.hmmm.

No hmmm, he/she is absolutely right. For extensive information on

multiple beneficial effects of coffee flying in the face of all pop

caveats and the " party line " of undereducated naturopaths, check out a

fascinating and superbly researched book on the subject, " The World of

Caffeine. "

>is there a budwig file on differennt types of medicine ingredients

explaining what they are ? Thank you so much , chris

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There's two mailing lists like this one dedicated to the Budwig protocol.

Best wishes,

Elena

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---and Elena: I have been taking the Hoxsey Red Clover for about

three weeks now and take one tsp per day. Its alot but its worth it, I

have heard good things and the dr I work with recommended it. Just a

note, Frann

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> > hello , have just been enlightened on the subject of red clover ,

> apparently,the cynaide in the clover sprouts is 100 x stronger than

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> apricot kernels , my naturopath agreed ,

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Red clover: Botanical name: Trifolium pratense. This plant grows in Europe and North America. The flowering tops are used in botanical medicine. Another plant, white clover, grows in similar areas. Both have white arrow-shaped patterns on their leaves. Red clover has been used in connection with cough, eczema, and menopause. Traditional Chinese Medicine and Western folk medicine used this plant as a diuretic, a cough expectorant (an agent that promotes discharge of mucus from the respiratory passages), and an alterative. Alterative plants were considered beneficial for chronic conditions, particularly those afflicting the skin. Red clover is known as an alterative agent (i.e., one that produces gradual beneficial changes in the body, usually by improving nutrition; also known as a “blood cleanser”). It is a traditional remedy for psoriasis and

eczema. However, the mechanism of action and constituents responsible for red clover’s purported benefit in skin conditions are unknown. Modern research has revealed that red clover also contains high amounts of isoflavones, such as genistein, which have weak estrogen-like properties. Modern research has focused on a red clover extract high in isoflavones as a possible treatment for symptoms associated with menopause and cardiovascular health in menopausal women. A double-blind trial found that red clover improved cardiovascular function in menopausal women, but it has not been shown to provide any benefits for symptoms of menopause (such as hot flashes or vaginal irritation). Various laboratory studies and one case report of a man with prostate cancer suggest red clover isoflavones may help prevent cancer. In another case study, use of red clover by a man with prostate cancer led to noticeable anticancer effects in his prostate after the cancer was surgically

removed. Although the isoflavones in red clover may help prevent certain forms of cancer (e.g., breast and prostate), further studies are needed before red clover is recommended for cancer patients. Traditionally, red clover is taken as a tea, by adding 1 cup (250 ml) of boiling water to 2–3 teaspoons (10–15 grams) of dried flowers and steeping, covered, for ten to fifteen minutes. Three cups (750 ml) can be drunk each day. Red clover can also be used in capsule or tablet form, equivalent to 2–4 grams of the dried flowers. Also, 1/2–3/4 teaspoon (2–4 ml) of tincture three times per day may be taken. Standardized extracts providing 40 mg isoflavones per day are available as well. Non-fermented red clover is relatively safe. However, fermented red clover may cause bleeding and should be avoided. Red clover supplements should be avoided by pregnant or breast-feeding women and their safety has not been established in young children and infants.

Certain medications may interact with red clover. Refer to the drug interactions safety check for a list of those medications. Suzi List Owner What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. health/ http://360./suziesgoats

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Herb Finders suggest doing a cleanse of the colon, liver-gb, kidneys before

doing one on the blood, otherwise it is supposed to be very unpleasant.

Jp

For some reason I keep running into information on red clover for

cancer. What is the opinion of those in this group on red clover?

From what I have read, it mainly " cleans the blood " whatever that

means.