sinus infection

[Guest guest]

How often to do a CBC is the doc's and your call, not mine.

You could also do detox using ALA only, and no DMSA. Remember, the

DMSA is NOT essential if he has mercury and/or arsenic.

Andy

> Now I am really scared. Jimmy is only 4.5. He is constantly

getting

> sick on DMSA. I don't know if it is a sinus infection or a cold.

I

> did have a CBC done in December which showed " fairly " normal,

> Doctor's words not mine. Do you suggest a CBC monthly? Thanks

> Maur

[Guest guest]

Re: Sinus Infection

I know this is off topic, but I have a sinus infection and need help getting

over it. Is there a group for people interested in natural cures? Can anyone

give suggestions about what I might try? I have a neti pot and have been using

it and trying goldenseal. I am also nursing still so have to be careful of what

I take.

In pain!

Amy

[Guest guest]

Colostrum would help considerably Amy, that's what I'm using to get over mine.

In 24 hours I was feeling better!

Janet

I know this is off topic, but I have a sinus infection and need help getting

over it. Is there a group for people interested in natural cures? Can anyone

give suggestions about what I might try? I have a neti pot and have been using

it and trying goldenseal. I am also nursing still so have to be careful of what

I take.

In pain!

Amy

[Guest guest]

> I know this is off topic, but I have a sinus infection and need

help getting over it. Is there a group for people interested in

natural cures? Can anyone give suggestions about what I might try?

> Amy

Amy,

The thing that worked for me was going off of all dairy products.

Dairy is horribly mucous forming in me and since going off dairy I've

never had a sinus infection and almost never get colds anymore.

I've since discovered I'm both lactose intolerant and have a casein

allergy and I don't tolerate even raw, cultured milk, so I realize

that this advice wouldn't necessarily be for everyone. But it's been

like night and day for me.

I've heard that it's good to also go off of any flour products during

a cold or sinus infection.

[Guest guest]

>I know this is off topic, but I have a sinus infection and need help getting

over it. Is there a group for people interested in natural cures? Can anyone

give suggestions about what I might try? I have a neti pot and have been using

it and trying goldenseal. I am also nursing still so have to be careful of what

I take.

>In pain!

>Amy

Our family gets them chronically. I think it is related to this

" skinny face " problem Price writes about. My kids are

getting wider nostrils, so maybe they will be ok!

Here is what has helped:

1. Kefir whey in the neti pot. This is magic! Only 1/4 tsp though,

or it can sting (and add your salt as usual). The whey has

to be less than a week old.

2. Guifenesen. This makes your snot runnier. Some

people have less liquid snot -- might be due to

something like Sjogrens, one CF gene, or warm

houses. Gui. is pretty harmless, and it is due

to go over-the-counter soon.

3. Get allergies handled. Gluten and casein

are the obvious culprits, but many food

allergies lead to blocked sinuses. When I

get a " bad " meal my sinuses get blocked

within a couple of hours.

4. Beconase or other nasal steriods -- they

make your nose impervious to inhalant

allergies. It works long-term, you have

to use it daily for always, but there are

few if any side effects.

5. Benadryl at night -- clears up your

sinuses so they can heal.

6. Rhinoblast -- a special drug mix

that kills fungi, bacteria, and has steriods

that wipes out all the problems at once.

I've used all of these, but at this point

I am fine with #1. My nasal allergies went

away when I handled my food allergies.

If an infection gets really bad, sometimes

getting doctor antibiotics might be the

way to go -- they really can be dangerous.

I've been really pleased with the kefir whey

though -- I think it has bacteriophages in

it (all whey does, but kefir is even more

of a special case) and antibiotics,

and maybe it re-populates the sinuses with

good bacteria. Recently I read an article

that confirms my theory (I think it was

New Scientist, but I can't find it now) that

the nose has probiotic bacteria like the

gut does -- it SHOULD be colonized with

friendly bacteria.

Hope this helps!

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

I would just add that goldenseal shouldn't be used for more than a few

weeks. It can inhibit absorption of B vitamins and kill good gut bacteria.

I'd also be careful with drugs that suppress the mucus, since mucus is the

body's way of throwing off the infection. OTOH, you don't want to be up all

night not being able to breathe; that's not good for your health either!

Heidi, do you think the magical kefir whey is the only way to go for this

purpose? Would regular old commercial yogurt whey work in a pinch?

-

[Guest guest]

Where can I get some quick? Amy

Re: Fw: Sinus Infection

Colostrum would help considerably Amy, that's what I'm using to get over mine.

In 24 hours I was feeling better!

Janet

I know this is off topic, but I have a sinus infection and need help getting

over it. Is there a group for people interested in natural cures? Can anyone

give suggestions about what I might try? I have a neti pot and have been using

it and trying goldenseal. I am also nursing still so have to be careful of what

I take.

In pain!

Amy

[Guest guest]

Wow thanks. Can I use whey from store bought pastuerized kefir? I haven't

gotten any grains to make my own with yet. I am still trying to decide which

are the best>

Amy

Re: Fw: Sinus Infection

>I know this is off topic, but I have a sinus infection and need help getting

over it. Is there a group for people interested in natural cures? Can anyone

give suggestions about what I might try? I have a neti pot and have been using

it and trying goldenseal. I am also nursing still so have to be careful of what

I take.

>In pain!

>Amy

Our family gets them chronically. I think it is related to this

" skinny face " problem Price writes about. My kids are

getting wider nostrils, so maybe they will be ok!

Here is what has helped:

1. Kefir whey in the neti pot. This is magic! Only 1/4 tsp though,

or it can sting (and add your salt as usual). The whey has

to be less than a week old.

2. Guifenesen. This makes your snot runnier. Some

people have less liquid snot -- might be due to

something like Sjogrens, one CF gene, or warm

houses. Gui. is pretty harmless, and it is due

to go over-the-counter soon.

3. Get allergies handled. Gluten and casein

are the obvious culprits, but many food

allergies lead to blocked sinuses. When I

get a " bad " meal my sinuses get blocked

within a couple of hours.

4. Beconase or other nasal steriods -- they

make your nose impervious to inhalant

allergies. It works long-term, you have

to use it daily for always, but there are

few if any side effects.

5. Benadryl at night -- clears up your

sinuses so they can heal.

6. Rhinoblast -- a special drug mix

that kills fungi, bacteria, and has steriods

that wipes out all the problems at once.

I've used all of these, but at this point

I am fine with #1. My nasal allergies went

away when I handled my food allergies.

If an infection gets really bad, sometimes

getting doctor antibiotics might be the

way to go -- they really can be dangerous.

I've been really pleased with the kefir whey

though -- I think it has bacteriophages in

it (all whey does, but kefir is even more

of a special case) and antibiotics,

and maybe it re-populates the sinuses with

good bacteria. Recently I read an article

that confirms my theory (I think it was

New Scientist, but I can't find it now) that

the nose has probiotic bacteria like the

gut does -- it SHOULD be colonized with

friendly bacteria.

Hope this helps!

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

I have been using the goldenseal for about a week and seem to be getting a tiny

bit better. Unfortunately I am used to the Dr and his quick fix (antibiotics).

So I guess I will learn to be patient, instead of being a patient.LOL Amy

Re: Sinus Infection

I would just add that goldenseal shouldn't be used for more than a few

weeks. It can inhibit absorption of B vitamins and kill good gut bacteria.

I'd also be careful with drugs that suppress the mucus, since mucus is the

body's way of throwing off the infection. OTOH, you don't want to be up all

night not being able to breathe; that's not good for your health either!

Heidi, do you think the magical kefir whey is the only way to go for this

purpose? Would regular old commercial yogurt whey work in a pinch?

-

[Guest guest]

>I have been using the goldenseal for about a week and seem to be getting a

>tiny bit better. Unfortunately I am used to the Dr and his quick fix

>(antibiotics). So I guess I will learn to be patient, instead of being a

>patient.LOL Amy

Generally it's a good idea! I'm not against antibiotics completely; they

saved my life 6 years ago when staph got into my bloodstream and my systems

starting shutting down. When the body is so overwhelmed, you need to

suppress the hell out of the symptoms!

But in most cases when you have a good working immune system and the body's

natural defenses are not so compromised, it's always best to give it the

chance to do its own healing. Otherwise, when you knock the symptoms out by

suppressing them, the body's going to have to just find another way to

express them, and bodies are very resourceful about that :-)

Glad you're making progress.

[Guest guest]

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 07:51:46AM -0500, Amy Lee Waters

<amyleewaters@...> wrote:

> I know this is off topic, but I have a sinus infection and need help getting

over it. Is there a group for people interested in natural cures? Can anyone

give suggestions about what I might try? I have a neti pot and have been using

it and trying goldenseal. I am also nursing still so have to be careful of what

I take.

> In pain!

I just saw this at the store: http://www.xlear.com/

It is xylitol.

I have not used it, but am going to suggest it to someone who suffers

from chronic sinusitus.

From the website:

Better Health through Nasal Cleansing Bacteria and germs are all around

us. They live on the surfaces that we touch and in the air that we

breathe. With germs and bacteria all around us, how do we prevent them

from entering our bodies?

The Center for Disease Control has stated that, " Hand washing is the

most effective way of reducing communicable disease. " We wash our hands

to clean them and we are also cautioned to keep our hands away from our

mouth and nose, but more than ninety percent of infection causing

bacteria enter the body through the nose and thrive in the nasal

passages. How do we keep our nasal passages clean and free of harmful

germs?

USE XLEAR NASAL WASH! Xylitol is one of bacteria\x{2019}s natural

enemies. When certain harmful bacteria enter the body, they attach to

the membranes of the nose and throat. Xlear Nasal Wash merely flushes

harmful bacteria away.

WHAT IS IN XLEAR NASAL WASH? Xlear Nasal Wash contains xylitol,

purified water, saline and grapefruit seed as a preservative.

Purified water, saline, and grapefruit seed extract (GSE) are found in

over-the-counter nasal moisteners that have been used for years. Xylitol

is the key ingredient that makes Xlear Nasal Wash so revolutionary and

effective

IS NASAL WASH SAFE? Xylitol is a remarkable substance. It is all

natural and is non habit-forming. The World Health Organization and the

FDA have given xylitol their safest ratings for food additives. Babies

and small children can use Xlear Nasal Wash without restriction.

Mark

[Guest guest]

If it isn't pastuerized it might work. I don't know

why it DOES work though, so I can't really say.

Helios isn't pastuerized, I think. Yogurt whey

might work too.

-- Heidi

>Wow thanks. Can I use whey from store bought pastuerized kefir? I haven't

gotten any grains to make my own with yet. I am still trying to decide which

are the best>

>Amy

>

[Guest guest]

>Heidi, do you think the magical kefir whey is the only way to go for this

>purpose? Would regular old commercial yogurt whey work in a pinch?

>

>-

I really don't know. I don't know why it works. It only works with

FRESH whey, for me. Kefir is a weird substance and has

lot of stuff in it, so it's hard to know what exactly

it is that works. I think it has to do with phages, based on

how LONG it works (i.e. I need it maybe once a month, if

then). Phages exist in all whey, to different degrees.

Guifenesen doesn't suppress mucous, BTW, it just thins it

out. In the winter it tends to get thick with indoor heat,

and some people it's too thick normally.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

>Guifenesen doesn't suppress mucous, BTW, it just thins it

>out. In the winter it tends to get thick with indoor heat,

>and some people it's too thick normally.

>-- Heidi

I use a humidifier, but it's become such a pain lately, and the season is

only just beginning, ugh! I even got the kind that has a UV bulb that

supposedly keeps you from having to disinfect the unit so often. But I

still have to because of the mineral buildup which mucks up the works. I

guess cleaning it out every few days is easier than feeding it distilled

water, though!

[Guest guest]

--- In , " kili94 " <lm324@j...>

wrote:

> > I know this is off topic, but I have a sinus infection and need

> help getting over it. Is there a group for people interested in

> natural cures? Can anyone give suggestions about what I

might try?

-------Everyone's given a lot of good suggestions... here's one

more to try...

When my sister was having allergies and sinus troubles, her

chiropractor told her to put oil of oregano in a pot of simmering

water and breath the steam with a towel tented over her head. It

worked really well for my sister, and oil of oregano is a great

microorganism killer.

[Guest guest]

Sinus infections were my first problem. I worked in a moldy school for many

years. Now it is chronic and I have been diagnosed as having it in the bone.

Make sure that you take all of the antibiotic, unless you have a reaction.

Advice that I've been given is that you should feel good for 5 days before

stopping the antibiotic. If you end up seeing the ENT I would ask about

obtaining cultures, although that may be hard to do if you haven't had surgery.

What kind of antibiotics are you on? Make sure to ask if it could be a fungal

infection too.

Good luck!!

Kathy

miffyj2002 <miffyj2002@...> wrote:

I have been having headaches and faint feelings for a long time. I

also have problems with my eyes. It is like they have oil on them and

I can't focus on anything. Sometimes I just have to go back to bed

for a while go back to sleep for my eyes to get better.

Anyway long story short, I had a cat scan a couple days ago and today

the Dr. office called and said I have a SINUS INFECTION of all things.

He is giving me antibiotics and said if I am not better when I get

finished with them he is sending me to an ENT.

Has anyone else had these symptoms ?? Have you been diagnosed with

anything ?? I started having these problems before we left the house

around 4 years ago.

I look forward to hearing from you all.

Jane

FAIR USE NOTICE:

[Guest guest]

--- In , " miffyj2002 " <miffyj2002@y...>

wrote:

> Dr. office called and said I have a SINUS INFECTION of all things.

> He is giving me antibiotics and said if I am not better when I get

> finished with them he is sending me to an ENT.

>

> Has anyone else had these symptoms ?? Have you been diagnosed with

> anything ?? I started having these problems before we left the

house

> around 4 years ago.

>

Yes Jane sinus infection was one of my first problems. First

chronic weakness, next sinus infection, next antibiotics, next severe

uticaria, mext prendizone, next sinus surgery, asthma, reactive

airways disease. Mostly everything for me starts with the sinuses,

then the mucus membrances start getting irritated. Anytime I get a

headache it usually means something is in the area that is bothering

me mostly fragrances these days. So far no mold at this place,

[Guest guest]

Jane,

Yes, I had horrible, blinding headaches on a daily basis! I also had the

fainting & lightheaded feelings along with the eye problems. I am a teacher

and couldn't see my manuals. I described it as if I had water in my eyes, kind

of like when you go swimming & come up out of the water. I also had MANY

sinus infections while I was at the school.

Since leaving a yr. and a half ago and under Dr. Shoemaker's care I haven't

had one sinus infection, common cold, sore throat, no illness of any kind

whatsoever!!!! All my toxic mold related symptoms are also gone! I still get

tired easily if I do too much in one day. I still take my medications and

return to Dr. S every 3 months.

Hope that is helpful!

Sue

I have been having headaches and faint feelings for a long time. I

also have problems with my eyes. It is like they have oil on them and

I can't focus on anything. Sometimes I just have to go back to bed

for a while go back to sleep for my eyes to get better.

Anyway long story short, I had a cat scan a couple days ago and today

the Dr. office called and said I have a SINUS INFECTION of all things.

He is giving me antibiotics and said if I am not better when I get

finished with them he is sending me to an ENT.

Has anyone else had these symptoms ?? Have you been diagnosed with

anything ?? I started having these problems before we left the house

around 4 years ago.

I look forward to hearing from you all.

Jane

[Guest guest]

Jane,

If you ask the doc to do fungal cultures be sure he lets them

culture out for 4 to 6 weeks.Not 7 to 14 days.It takes longer for

some of the more nastier ones to show up.ie:fusarium

KC

--- In , " miffyj2002 " <miffyj2002@y...>

wrote:

> I have been having headaches and faint feelings for a long time.

I

> also have problems with my eyes. It is like they have oil on them

and

> I can't focus on anything. Sometimes I just have to go back to

bed

> for a while go back to sleep for my eyes to get better.

>

> Anyway long story short, I had a cat scan a couple days ago and

today

> the Dr. office called and said I have a SINUS INFECTION of all

things.

> He is giving me antibiotics and said if I am not better when I get

> finished with them he is sending me to an ENT.

>

> Has anyone else had these symptoms ?? Have you been diagnosed with

> anything ?? I started having these problems before we left the

house

> around 4 years ago.

>

> I look forward to hearing from you all.

>

> Jane

[Guest guest]

Absolutely! I first figured out I had allergy problems and worked in a moldy

building when I had 3 nasty sinus infections in one winter. The headaches got

bad when the sinus infections were raging. I had never had a sinus infection

before in my whole life and I just could not figure out why when I blew my nose

stuff came out pink and red. I went from being an insomniac that slept for 5-8

hours a day to someone who was still tired after sleeping 9-12 hours a day. For

some reason I never had any real eye trouble, though that is common for other

people. My eyes did feel different and sleep helped a lot, so in that sense it

was similar to you. It took my doctors awhile to figure out the problem was an

allergic reaction. Eventually I was tested and the only thing I was found to

be highly allergic to was mold ... surprise, surprise -- what were the odds.

After allergy shots, numerous trials of medication, and some office relocations

I have gotten the problem under control ... though I still struggle with my

allergies that *mysteriously* surfaced 5 years ago.

[] Sinus Infection

I have been having headaches and faint feelings for a long time. I

also have problems with my eyes. It is like they have oil on them and

I can't focus on anything. Sometimes I just have to go back to bed

for a while go back to sleep for my eyes to get better.

Anyway long story short, I had a cat scan a couple days ago and today

the Dr. office called and said I have a SINUS INFECTION of all things.

He is giving me antibiotics and said if I am not better when I get

finished with them he is sending me to an ENT.

Has anyone else had these symptoms ?? Have you been diagnosed with

anything ?? I started having these problems before we left the house

around 4 years ago.

I look forward to hearing from you all.

Jane

FAIR USE NOTICE:

[Guest guest]

Shortly after moving into this mold infested apartment

building in 2001 I started to get sick, and had no

idea what was wrong, as I had always been healthy. At

first, I would get headaches, I would be light-headed,

and I had nasal congestion. Then I developed a cough,

had problems with my eyes - could not focus, felt

achy, was tired all the time, had difficulty

breathing, would break out into sweats, would be

chilly, and had brain-fog.

I can't even remember how many times I've had

sinusitis and bronchitis, and was put on Zithromax. It

worked for about the first year and a half, but then

stopped, and in June 2003, when the Zithromax didn't

work, I got pneumonia and was hospitalized, and put on

Bactrim.

For about the past year, it has been a " fight " just to

get thru the day. I use a nebulizer with Albuterol 4

times a day, but it doesn't help all that much, plus I

still have all the problems listed above.

In one of your other posts you stated you had filed a

lawsuit. I have also filed a lawsuit, but am not

pleased with my attorney, so if you live in PA., I was

wondering if you would be willing to share the name

of your attorney.

Barb E.

--- miffyj2002 <miffyj2002@...> wrote:

> I have been having headaches and faint feelings for

> a long time. I

> also have problems with my eyes. It is like they

> have oil on them and

> I can't focus on anything. Sometimes I just have to

> go back to bed

> for a while go back to sleep for my eyes to get

> better.

>

> Anyway long story short, I had a cat scan a couple

> days ago and today

> the Dr. office called and said I have a SINUS

> INFECTION of all things.

> He is giving me antibiotics and said if I am not

> better when I get

> finished with them he is sending me to an ENT.

>

> Has anyone else had these symptoms ?? Have you been

> diagnosed with

> anything ?? I started having these problems before

> we left the house

> around 4 years ago.

>

> I look forward to hearing from you all.

>

> Jane

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Kathy, We're not talking about creepy crawling things here..just bad bacteria in your sinus cavities. Your nose is just the exit door for all of the build up. Of course, it never hurts to deworm yourself periodically, so you might see some creepy crawling things exit via your BMs. The more of this stuff you get out, the healthier you will become. Anne TX

[Guest guest]

Do you have any of the ST pulp? If so, grind it up and snuff it up... sure to open up your head. Also, a netti pot works. Kathy <vanokat@...> wrote: Hi guys, I have horrible sinus infection. It is so disgusting. I am thinking of trying this - anyone ever ordered from here or used anything similar? http://www.sinuswars.com/index.htm I cannot stand this any longer. I have had this for a very long time-

over a year now. I have to blow my nose at least 20 times a day. It seems to only be on the R side. I have in the past taken anti-biotics -actually 3 times now. It seems to lighten up while I am on the AB but as soon as I finish it is right back.I always have a very bad smell - seems to worsen when i bend over. I am currently taking Super Tonic and some collidial silver. I have recently started putting CS directly into my nose. Have also tried snorting honey. Nothing is working. I have no insurance so I gotta self treat. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Have a good one Kathy Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

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[Guest guest]

Kathy, try snorting some clean water with

salt and a pinch of baking soda added. Warm moist compresses will help

the pain and pressure. Take extra garlic if you can because you need to

control the bacterial growth. The problem with these infections is that

they are so close to the eyes and brain that the infection sometimes moves

there and that can be very serious. Lots of clean water to drink. No

mucus-forming foods such as dairy and refined grains. Get as much rest as

you can too. Most of my sinus infections clear with this regimen, but

sometimes I do have to get some hefty antibiotics. Let us know how it’s

going.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Kathy

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007

8:23 AM

health

Subject:

sinus infection

Hi guys,

I have horrible sinus infection. It is so disgusting. I am thinking of

trying this - anyone ever ordered from here or used anything similar?

http://www.sinuswars.com/index.htm

I cannot stand this any longer. I have had this for a very long time-

over a year now. I have to blow my nose at least 20 times a day.

It seems to only be on the R side. I have in the past taken

anti-biotics -actually 3 times now. It seems to lighten up while I am on the AB

but as soon as I finish it is right back.I always have a very bad smell - seems

to worsen when i bend over.

I am currently taking Super Tonic and some collidial silver.

I have recently started putting CS directly into my nose. Have also

tried snorting honey.

Nothing is working.

I have no insurance so I gotta self treat.

Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

Have a good one

Kathy