Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 I am so glad that is working for you. Dr Schulze is the person that I have learned so much from, he says Cayenne is the king of herbs and Lobelia is the Queen and I believe it. He said the easy way to remember this if someone needs to be brought up use Cayenne if you need to be brought down use Lobelia. You can also make your own tincture of Lobelia too. lcarveth <l.carveth@...> wrote: Hi especially to all you UK people, I learnt about lobelia from Marilyn on this group who used it with Charlie. Here in the UK, officially Lobelia is supposed to only be available on a registered herbalist's prescription. I get it through a herbalist who also runs a pharmacy in London. Please write to me off list if you need the details. Personally it has changed our lives and enabled my son to get off all these mind numbing AEDs . Unmedicated his epilepsy takes the form of extended absences and he has a tendency to status. If an absence lasts more than 5 minutes and looks like settling into what might otherwise require diaziapam/midazalan or a 999 call we use 8+ drops of Lobelia under the tongue. We have been using it now for c 1 year with repeated success and my son is now medication free. He now carries it around with him. I should also mention that we have been experimenting with abdominal breathing and sheer anger to try and short circuit seizures too. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Many thanks for this info; thanks to Sophie and too... I will now stock up on it, just in case, and hopefully not have to use the midazolam. [ ] Lobelia > Hi especially to all you UK people, > > I learnt about lobelia from Marilyn on this group who used it with > Charlie. > > Here in the UK, officially Lobelia is supposed to only be > available on a registered herbalist's prescription. I get it through > a herbalist who also runs a pharmacy in London. Please write to me > off list if you need the details. > > Personally it has changed our lives and enabled my son to get off > all these mind numbing AEDs . Unmedicated his epilepsy takes the > form of extended absences and he has a tendency to status. If an > absence lasts more than 5 minutes and looks like settling into what > might otherwise require diaziapam/midazalan or a 999 call we use 8+ > drops of Lobelia under the tongue. We have been using it now for c 1 > year with repeated success and my son is now medication free. He now > carries it around with him. > > I should also mention that we have been experimenting with > abdominal breathing and sheer anger to try and short circuit > seizures too. > > > Liz > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Edith I have used Lobelia before . Dr Schulze says it is the opposite from Ceyenne Ceyenne stimulates and Lobelia sedates. He states in his book when in doubt what to do use Lobelia. For bronchial dilation and anispasmodic action he says 5 or more drops is a good starting dose. More can be used but he suggests to work up to it slowly since it is a powerful herb Hope that helps Christel ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Lobelia is what we were told to use after we rescued during Hurricane Katrina. This was suppose to expel all the gunk from our lungs. United States Animal Protection Dawn Bechtold President _www.USAnimalProtectwww.USA_ (http://www.usanimalprotection.org/) (AnimalShelterReform/) _UnitedStatesAnimalPUnitedState_ (UnitedStatesAnimalProtection/) _AnimalShelterReform _ (AnimalShelterReform/) 404 849 5202 888 710 4184 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Edith, I don't know about lobelia or congestion for that matter but nothing has ever stopped my coughing better than a cough drop, found in drug stores called, Fisherman's Friend. It comes in a little paper bag or a container like Altoids. If you can get by the taste, they work great. At least for me! GypsyRose OC Property Services 714.549-3519 Office/Fax 714.349-1200 Cell ----Original Message Follows---- From: ejohns9525@... Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Lobelia Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 19:49:41 EDT Has anyone used lobelia? My daughter has a terrible cough and congestion. She has tried cough prescription which haven't helped much. I have Dr Schulze's lobelia. I'm not sure how much she should take. She's 38 yr. old. Edith ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 LOBELIA worked miracles for me, quite recently. Brilliant stuff. DCH -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: oxyplus [mailto:oxyplus ] Namens ejohns9525@... Verzonden: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:50 AM Aan: oxyplus Onderwerp: Lobelia Has anyone used lobelia? My daughter has a terrible cough and congestion. She has tried cough prescription which haven't helped much. I have Dr Schulze's lobelia. I'm not sure how much she should take. She's 38 yr. old. Edith ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com.> com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Lobelia: This herb is a powerful poison that doesn't belong on the home medicine shelf. Similar to nicotine, it has been used in over-the-counter preparations to help people stop smoking, however, there is no indication that it's useful in this area. Lobelia contains Lobeline and related alkaloids which act first by exciting and then depressing the central nervous system. It can open the bronchioles if used in the right amount however, too much and it slows respiration and lowers the blood pressure drastically. Different doses have different effects. A half of a teaspoon of lobelia tincture may have a sedative effect but a whole teaspoon could cause you to vomit. It is believed that Lobelia, administered by a professional, may be a nurturing and supportive tonic for the lungs, applicable to a wide variety of upper-respiratory ailments particularly helpful in the treatment of asthma and bronchitis. Externally, lobelia may be useful in the treatment of arthritis, bruises, insect bites, poison ivy, ringworm and sprains. Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 You're welcome... I've never tried it for muscle spasms... Hmm... we should have Gloria try this.... might help her. Gloria, you might want to add a few drops of dmso to it .. Suziprayerfulmantis <prayerfulmantis@...> wrote: Lobelia is AWESOME for muscle spasms. Taken internally and rubbed on externally (I give 3 squirts of lobelia tincture internally, then 20 minutes later (gives time for the lobelia to start working) apply externally cayenne tincture to help open up the pores, then more lobelia on the outside, then a hot water bottle) it's very good. I was laid up for 2 days once with agonizing back spasms and eventually remembered, "Lobelia, antispasmodic, DUH!" 20 minutes after taking the initial dose (3 squirts, about a teaspoon) the muscles started to relax. Kept using it on and off for the next day or so as I began moving around again. It was such a relief and I was embarrassed to have wasted 2 days. I tried to use it as an emetic, just to test it out. Took 3 tablespoons of the tincture and it didn't trigger vomitting. Dr. used that aspect of it's medicinal function to help clean the mucus crud out of asthmatic patients. Maybe one needs to also do the finger in the back of the throat trick to trigger it.One place it shines is in herbal formulas. In a small percentage of the total formula it works to help harmonize the other herbs in the formula. Tom Brown Jr, the wilderness skills teacher, describes that function as a catalyst. Test it out, if you have a formula which you can taste the different herbs seperately (hard to describe but easy to taste) try adding a little bit of lobelia and watch the flavors (and healing actions) mingle. Chinese use licorice similiarly.I've read some old school herbalist who claim they could get by with 2 herbs, cayenne to stimulate and lobelia to sedate. Clever use of both of those herbs and concepts can treat a wide range of symptons.Never thought of trying some of the other uses you listed. Always more to learn. Thanks for bringing up one great herb! Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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