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One of my mentors provided alternative health care to the

homeless in a Bay area community for nearly 2 decades. He had some

interesting experiences from that. People most frequently needed

help with skin conditions (poor hygeine), liver problems (substance

abuse), urinary tract infections, and lung stuff. He passed out a

lot of cheap multivitamins and relied a lot on tinctures as people

had difficulties making hot water for tea consistently. Lately I've

been thinking about " What if...? " What if I were the one on the run

so to speak without easy access to the herb gardens, medicine chest,

and conventional health care? What if I were one of the hobos down

by the river and railroad tracks? I'm talking an urban enviroment,

what could we do to enhance our health and maintain a decent quality

of life while scrounging for resources? I think we could get an

interesting discussion going contemplating this.

Seems to me the priorities for survival health care would be

hygiene and nutrition. Hygiene especially, as that is so easy to let

go and can cause so many problems.

A knowledge of some wild edibles would go a long ways to

getting better nutrition. Dandelion greens have fantastic vitamin

and mineral content, munching those would give you free " nature's

multivitamin. "

Vinegar is cheap and works for personal hygeine. A sponge bath

with vinegar kills BO bacteria. The ancients (and hispanic

herbalists today) spike their vinegar with herbs to provide different

effects. Myrhh vinegar was used as a topical antibiotic agent, mint

vinegar to settle tummies, and the like. Instead of myrhh perhaps

pine pitch could enhance even grocery store vinegar for external

uses. I much prefer good AC vinegar but conventional is cheap.

Lacking funds to purchase vinegar one could revert to the wilderness

survival methodology of boiling up a strong tannic acid solution

(acorns, hardwood barks, raspberry roots, many things) for use.

Hardly anyone ever gathers acorns from the city park. Tasty too if

you know how to process them.

What herbs to know? Easily available from the store are

onions, garlic, hot peppers, and ginger. One could come up with the

fire cider/complete tonic for not too many cans and bottles

collected. Common urban edibles include dandelions, chickweed,

miner's lettuce (west coast), lamb's quarter, yellow dock. A lot of

our yummy edibles are found growing in and around man's disturbed

enviroment. A lot of those have medicinal properties too.

What do you all think?

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I think you are referring to a different state of mind than most homeless people have.

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@...

Hobo Herbalism Scenario

One of my mentors provided alternative health care to the homeless in a Bay area community for nearly 2 decades. He had some interesting experiences from that. People most frequently needed help with skin conditions (poor hygeine), liver problems (substance abuse), urinary tract infections, and lung stuff. He passed out a lot of cheap multivitamins and relied a lot on tinctures as people had difficulties making hot water for tea consistently. Lately I've been thinking about "What if...?" What if I were the one on the run so to speak without easy access to the herb gardens, medicine chest, and conventional health care? What if I were one of the hobos down by the river and railroad tracks? I'm talking an urban enviroment, what could we do to enhance our health and maintain a decent quality of life while scrounging for resources? I think we could get an interesting discussion going contemplating this.Seems to me the priorities for survival health care would be hygiene and nutrition. Hygiene especially, as that is so easy to let go and can cause so many problems. A knowledge of some wild edibles would go a long ways to getting better nutrition. Dandelion greens have fantastic vitamin and mineral content, munching those would give you free "nature's multivitamin." Vinegar is cheap and works for personal hygeine. A sponge bath with vinegar kills BO bacteria. The ancients (and hispanic herbalists today) spike their vinegar with herbs to provide different effects. Myrhh vinegar was used as a topical antibiotic agent, mint vinegar to settle tummies, and the like. Instead of myrhh perhaps pine pitch could enhance even grocery store vinegar for external uses. I much prefer good AC vinegar but conventional is cheap. Lacking funds to purchase vinegar one could revert to the wilderness survival methodology of boiling up a strong tannic acid solution (acorns, hardwood barks, raspberry roots, many things) for use. Hardly anyone ever gathers acorns from the city park. Tasty too if you know how to process them.What herbs to know? Easily available from the store are onions, garlic, hot peppers, and ginger. One could come up with the fire cider/complete tonic for not too many cans and bottles collected. Common urban edibles include dandelions, chickweed, miner's lettuce (west coast), lamb's quarter, yellow dock. A lot of our yummy edibles are found growing in and around man's disturbed enviroment. A lot of those have medicinal properties too.What do you all think?

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Good interesting topic.

Thank you. I've watched an individual in downtown minneapolis eating

out of a styrofoam box taken out of a trash bin, thinking there was

likely wild edibles growing under his feet in the cracks of the

sidewalk.

Other common useful urban plants include plantain, purslane, clover,

mint, catnip, horseradish, burdock, salsify, echinacea, mullien come to

mind as plants I have seen in urban environments. Fruit often goes

unpicked, I've seen loads of apples, and and a peach which were never

harvested.

I've seen evidence of hunting in some of the parks. I saw a couple of

geese and a a couple fishes stashed in some tall grass. I've seen live

deer. While hiking around I found an old abandoned shelter which had

been used. (I recomend learning about alternative house construction

such as rammed earth and sand bag construction.)

This same park had wild grapes, raspberries, strawberries, and a whole

bunch of rubarb because the site was once a fruit cannery/farm and they

bulldozed a large cultivated rubarb patch over the side of a hill where

it continues to thrive. You can eat cat tail shoots, roots, pollen. A

taste of some types of new fern fronds are tasty but will give you a

belly ache if you eat too many. Fawns love these. It's deer candy.

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prayerfulmantis wrote:

....What if I were one of the hobos down by the river and railroad tracks? I'm talking an urban enviroment, what could we do to enhance our health and maintain a decent quality of life while scrounging for resources? I think we could get an interesting discussion going contemplating this.

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My new job is in the industrial area, specifically next to the Boeing 777 and 787 plant in Everett, Washington. The walk I take every lunchtime is lined with blackberry bushes. I stop and eat, run a bit, stop and eat some more. Yes, people are oblivious to what is under foot.

Shari

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Health would not be a first priority if I

were homeless; finding shelter and food would. Finding wild medicinal plants

is fun to do though. Especially in the lush valley where we live now.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Gayla

Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007

7:43 PM

health

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I think you are referring

to a different state of mind than most homeless people have.

Gayla

Always Enough Ranch

Acampo, California

http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html

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Hobo Herbalism Scenario

One of my mentors provided alternative health care to the

homeless in a Bay area community for nearly 2 decades. He had some

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Blackberries are prolific here in the Willamette valley. They can be a terrible nuisance

around the home due to their nasty thorns, but they sure are delicious to eat.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of SV

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007

2:55 AM

health

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Hobo Herbalism Scenario

My new job is in the industrial area, specifically next to

the Boeing 777 and 787 plant in Everett,

Washington. The walk I take

every lunchtime is lined with blackberry bushes. I stop and eat, run a

bit, stop and eat some more. Yes, people are oblivious to what is under

foot.

Shari

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I am definately refering to a much different state of mind than

most homeless people have. I am thinking of an exciting chance to push

ones skill envelope adapting what one knows to what would be a

miserable situation for the average person. A teacher said to us in

training, " If you are suffering in survival it's because your skills

suck. " He added onto that it's all about choice, and the better your

skills the more options you have to choose from.

> Health would not be a first priority if I were homeless; finding

shelter and

> food would.

Good point. I think if one wants to stay away from the social

service end of things there is a big crossover between the wild foods

and herbal medicine. The two areas pretty much blend into one

another. But you're right, not freezing to death is far more important.

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I had downloaded a program which would simulate (numerically) living off

the wild. I input some aproximated figures about the rural area I live

in, ran the program and it told me a group of 4 would consume everything

within a 50mile radiius within 30 days. This included wild animals, it

asssumed the agricultural land no longer held edibles, which of course

is quite a bit of land base. I was suprised how fast the the area was

used up. I understand nomadic tribes a little more now.

So, in the event of some reginal or national need to survive off the

land - not a pretty picture.

It's just as important to know what not to eat or take medicinally as

what to take or eat. In a tough spot people will try to eat anything.

A little knowledge would go a long way.

~

prayerfulmantis wrote:

>A teacher said to us in

>training, " If you are suffering in survival it's because your skills

>suck. " He added onto that it's all about choice, and the better your

>skills the more options you have to choose from.

>

>

>

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