Re: husband's drug reaction

[Guest guest]

You're saying he is allergic to the antibiotic? Never heard of a reaction that intense... You need t flush out his system when this is done... Meantime does he drink alot of water? Suzicgiambri <cgiambri@...> wrote: Husband thought he was bit up by spiders other night. Never saw a spider in our bedroom, but .... So he went to work a little Monday and customer told him it looks like spider bites. From the top of his head to his waist he was all bites, itchy, bright red on skin, and swollen. He couldn't sleep barely last night, all symptoms continued so today emergency visit to doctor who never saw a case this bad from the antiobiotic for his tooth infection: ampencillian (sp). He had taken this before, never finished his dose and his infection never went away.

This time he was faithful and went full blown into allergic reaction.Doctor said if not feeling better in 48 hours off to hospital emergency room. He is on a predisone drug and benydrel. I don't endorse drugs, but he has to get some relief and is choosing this route for a very short time. I am planning on having him see acupuncturist once he is doing a little better. He can't drive till he's doing better to be safe on the road.

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[Guest guest]

Activated Charcoal works really well on spider bites... It literally sucks

up toxins in the system. You can make a paste out of it and apply it to each

bite (then cover with a bandaid 'cause it's messy). The capsules should also

be taken by mouth for at least a couple of days.

I used the Charcoal on my husband when he got a Black Widow spider bite, and

within 2 days you couldn't even tell he'd gotten bitten (vs the year before

when he got bit he was in the hospital on IV antibiotics for a whole

afternoon).

HTH~

Jan G.

[Guest guest]

Suzi,

What kind of flush are you thinking? Yes, he drinks lots of water,

but not sure he is doing it today as he is sleeping bunches. I made

an epsom salt bath, with warm water, and he couldn't stay there very

long as he was getting cold but not the water--his body.

Thanks for your wisdom tonight. I hardly slept so I'm pretty much

hitting the road for bed.

Spoke to Gloria yesterday...nothing new...today she was supposed to

hook up via phone with Sharyn, our angel here, friend in Fleetwood.

Hugs,

carolg

> Husband thought he was bit up by spiders other night. Never saw

a

> spider in our bedroom, but .... So he went to work a little Monday

> and customer told him it looks like spider bites. From the top of

> his head to his waist he was all bites, itchy, bright red on skin,

> and swollen. He couldn't sleep barely last night, all symptoms

> continued so today emergency visit to doctor who never saw a case

> this bad from the antiobiotic for his tooth infection:

ampencillian

> (sp). He had taken this before, never finished his dose and his

> infection never went away. This time he was faithful and went full

> blown into allergic reaction.

>

> Doctor said if not feeling better in 48 hours off to hospital

> emergency room. He is on a predisone drug and benydrel. I don't

> endorse drugs, but he has to get some relief and is choosing this

> route for a very short time. I am planning on having him see

> acupuncturist once he is doing a little better. He can't drive

till

> he's doing better to be safe on the road.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

My hubby didn't get a bite actually. He took amoxicillin and that

was the problem.

I'll keep your wisdom for the time when he gets a spider or other

bite, but he " thought " it was a bite which actually was an allergic

reaction, super bad one, to the darn antibiotics the dentist said he

must take as he infection was very severe.

I'm going to have him beef up on garlic too.

When else are you using Activiated Charcoal? Do you think hubby can

take this orally, once finished with his drugs, to get rid of the

toxins from the drugs, his dental infection too?

Thanks for sharing.

I'm so tired so off to bed now. Appreciate your concern.

hugs,

carolg

>

> Activated Charcoal works really well on spider bites... It

literally sucks

> up toxins in the system. You can make a paste out of it and apply

it to each

> bite (then cover with a bandaid 'cause it's messy). The capsules

should also

> be taken by mouth for at least a couple of days.

>

> I used the Charcoal on my husband when he got a Black Widow spider

bite, and

> within 2 days you couldn't even tell he'd gotten bitten (vs the

year before

> when he got bit he was in the hospital on IV antibiotics for a

whole

> afternoon).

>

> HTH~

> Jan G.

>

[Guest guest]

colon and liver for sure. try a 'warmer' epsom salt bath and give him a cup of ginger tea (hot)... if you want him to sweat out the toxins. How about after he's done, also doing some blood cleansing.. like burdock, etc. Suzi PS Keep us posted on Gloria... I know there are prayers and helps coming to her. cgiambri <cgiambri@...> wrote: Suzi,What kind of flush are you thinking? Yes, he drinks lots of water, but not sure he is doing it today as he is sleeping bunches. I made an epsom salt bath, with warm water, and he couldn't stay there very long as he was getting cold but not the water--his body.Thanks for your wisdom tonight. I hardly slept so I'm pretty much hitting the road for bed. Spoke to Gloria

yesterday...nothing new...today she was supposed to hook up via phone with Sharyn, our angel here, friend in Fleetwood.Hugs,carolg

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[Guest guest]

Suzi,

Thanks again for information. Great idea about all, but surely the

ginger tea I never thought about. I assume it's squeezing my own

fresh ginger or buying the tea as two options?

re Gloria: Surely will keep everyone updated. I tried calling late

yesterday, but the line was busy so I gave up.

I called a local church about 2 weeks ago and they never called

her. Turns out there is a friend who goes there and they are trying

to get some ladies to come over and help Gloria. Gloria is not

conencted to the church either. Her EX and his wife have been

another set of angels in her life, besides the angels here, but we

are the long distance ones.

She loves to have company especially as a " shut in " but she is

grateful when she gets a surprise visitor.

Yes, let's keep her in our prayers. She needs a miracle.

Hugs,

carolg

> Suzi,

> What kind of flush are you thinking? Yes, he drinks lots of water,

> but not sure he is doing it today as he is sleeping bunches. I

made

> an epsom salt bath, with warm water, and he couldn't stay there

very

> long as he was getting cold but not the water--his body.

>

> Thanks for your wisdom tonight. I hardly slept so I'm pretty much

> hitting the road for bed.

>

> Spoke to Gloria yesterday...nothing new...today she was supposed

to

> hook up via phone with Sharyn, our angel here, friend in Fleetwood.

>

> Hugs,

> carolg

>

>

[Guest guest]

Buy fresh ginger root, grate it and make tea..cgiambri <cgiambri@...> wrote: Suzi,Thanks again for information. Great idea about all, but surely the ginger tea I never thought about. I assume it's squeezing my own fresh ginger or buying the tea as two options? Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

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My grandson got antibiotics last February

when I was visiting (not my first choice, but, heck, I’m only the nonna)

and ended up looking like he had the measles. We actually thought he did have

the measles until my daughter contacted the nurse at the pediatrician and they

told her it could be a reaction to the antibiotics. And then found out my sil’s

mother is allergic to that particular antibiotic. We were lucky to find out

the allergy with no more of a reaction than a measley skin rash. He won’t

get them again.

Sharyn

From:

health

[mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Suzanne

You're saying he is allergic to the antibiotic? Never heard

of a reaction that intense...

[Guest guest]

Yep...that's what my grandson turned out to be allergic to.

Sounds like the same reaction.

Sharyn

-----Original Message-----

From: health

[mailto:health ] On Behalf Of cgiambri

My hubby didn't get a bite actually. He took amoxicillin and that

was the problem.

[Guest guest]

Sorry carolg, I misunderstood your original post. But yes, I use the

Activated Charcoal for several things... We've used it on bites (ant,

spider, bee stings, etc.) It's also good for food poisoning (take by mouth)

and really bad acid indigestion. I've been told ERs use Charcoal when the

pump someone's stomach because it absorbs acids/toxins/poisons without side

effects. A pregnant or nursing mom can take it safely as well. I used it

when I was nursing my youngest child and had repeated breast infections. The

affected area gets a tad gray from the Charcoal, but it does what it's

supposed to do.

There certainly wouldn't be any harm in taking the Charcoal after your DH's

finished with his drugs... I honestly don't know if it would absorb toxins

from the whole body... I've only read about it & used it myself on

infections....

Jan G.

SAHM of 8, breastfeeding advocate

[Guest guest]

My 12yo son was recently treated with Erthomycin pills and topical for what the Dr. called scarring acne on his back chest and face.

The med. did not work we are still battling these 'bumps'. I am using a clay mask from grassrootslife.com and I am seeing some improvement but not much. I have no ins. and no more $ to throw out to this Dr. for his med that does not work. Working on diet which is hard for this head strong little bruiser.

Kathy

RE: husband's drug reaction

My grandson got antibiotics last February when I was visiting (not my first choice, but, heck, I’m only the nonna) and ended up looking like he had the measles. We actually thought he did have the measles until my daughter contacted the nurse at the pediatrician and they told her it could be a reaction to the antibiotics. And then found out my sil’s mother is allergic to that particular antibiotic. We were lucky to find out the allergy with no more of a reaction than a measley skin rash. He won’t get them again.

Sharyn

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Suzanne

You're saying he is allergic to the antibiotic? Never heard of a reaction that intense...

[Guest guest]

Jan,

I'll look more into Acti. Charcoal.

Wow, SAHM of 8. Wow, share with us more! Our Stacey has an army of

her own and lost her wonderful hubby Carl last year we sometimes

talk about.

hugs,

carolg

>

> Sorry carolg, I misunderstood your original post. But yes, I use

the

> Activated Charcoal for several things... We've used it on bites

(ant,

> spider, bee stings, etc.) It's also good for food poisoning (take

by mouth)

> and really bad acid indigestion. I've been told ERs use Charcoal

when the

> pump someone's stomach because it absorbs acids/toxins/poisons

without side

> effects. A pregnant or nursing mom can take it safely as well. I

used it

> when I was nursing my youngest child and had repeated breast

infections. The

> affected area gets a tad gray from the Charcoal, but it does what

it's

> supposed to do.

>

> There certainly wouldn't be any harm in taking the Charcoal after

your DH's

> finished with his drugs... I honestly don't know if it would

absorb toxins

> from the whole body... I've only read about it & used it myself on

> infections....

>

> Jan G.

> SAHM of 8, breastfeeding advocate

>

[Guest guest]

Sharyn,

What did they do for your grandson? Was his stomach all red like

sunburn too? My son is saying my husband must take benadryl to get

rid of the hives besides the med that has predisone in it of some

sort.

Thanks for sharing.

I am thinking no more scare tactics by the dentists and it's garlic,

garlic, garlic unless you have other suggestions.

Years ago had another dental emergency and found a dentist. He said

I must go drugs. I refused and was first patient to sign a waiver

to that effect.

I survived.

When we here teeth with infection that can spread to different

organs we are weak and they say you must take drugs and here we fell

for it!

Hugs,

carolg

>

> Yep...that's what my grandson turned out to be allergic to.

>

> Sounds like the same reaction.

>

> Sharyn

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: health

> [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of

cgiambri

>

> My hubby didn't get a bite actually. He took amoxicillin and that

> was the problem.

>

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

My heart goes out to you. The medical route is outrageously

expensive.

I would look into www.hacres.com.

The person who runs the FL retreat center I believe it was her

daughter who had bad case of acne that cleared via this Diet. Of

course your son needs to commit to change.

I don't know what to do for husband myself. The swelling in hands

is going down, but he still has the rash he said, the bumps go and

come in different areas. It seems to be traveling down to legs/feet

now, but still some bumps remaining. The stomach is still

sunburn " fire engine red. "

He is doing the drugs still and my son said the benadryl does get

rid of the bumps so we shall see. He is now starting on Ultimae

Flora Senior Forumala, 30 billion cultes per capsule, adults 50+,

high bifidobacteria., 10 strains, dairy free, now giving him garlic

capsules, had lunch with beets, just out of tub--epsom salt one, two

epsom salt baths also.

In between all this the other drug has predisone so not sure how

long he will stay on that one either....

He gets very sleepy from drugs, can't work this one man shop

sprinkler business right now, and people are needing turn off

services scheduled which I am doing but thinking next week.

Best to you.

Oh, how about juices for son...something that has a little beet in

it too...thinking more green or even green smoothies. Tomorrow may

be juice day for hubby too but in between eating.

I like checking with health food store for additional info. always.

If he is not feeling much better tomorrow with improvements then it

was suggested hospital; if so, it's VA which is here and free rather

than go to local and pay hundreds or more....

Keep us posted.

hugs,

carolg

--- In health , " Kathy " <vanokat@...>

wrote:

>

> My 12yo son was recently treated with Erthomycin pills and topical

for what the Dr. called scarring acne on his back chest and face.

> The med. did not work we are still battling these 'bumps'. I am

using a clay mask from grassrootslife.com and I am seeing some

improvement but not much. I have no ins. and no more $ to throw out

to this Dr. for his med that does not work. Working on diet which is

hard for this head strong little bruiser.

>

> Kathy

> RE: husband's drug reaction

>

>

>

> My grandson got antibiotics last February when I was visiting

(not my first choice, but, heck, I'm only the nonna) and ended up

looking like he had the measles. We actually thought he did have

the measles until my daughter contacted the nurse at the

pediatrician and they told her it could be a reaction to the

antibiotics. And then found out my sil's mother is allergic to that

particular antibiotic. We were lucky to find out the allergy with

no more of a reaction than a measley skin rash. He won't get them

again.

>

>

>

> Sharyn

>

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------------------------------------

-----------

>

> From: health

[mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Suzanne

>

>

>

> You're saying he is allergic to the antibiotic? Never heard of

a reaction that intense...

>

[Guest guest]

Suzi,

I got plenty of fresh ginger for the tea.

Thanks.

hugs,

carolg

Suzi,

>

> Thanks again for information. Great idea about all, but surely the

> ginger tea I never thought about. I assume it's squeezing my own

> fresh ginger or buying the tea as two options?

>

>

>

> Suzi

>

[Guest guest]

I don't remember that they gave my grandson anything. The said to stop

giving him the amoxicillin and the measle-like spots would go away by

themselves. They did. I don't recall a stomach all red like sunburn, just

spots that looked like measles.

It worries me that they're telling him to keep taking the amoxicillin and

then to take benadryl and steroids to counteract his reaction to it. I

think it's asking for big trouble down the road, because the reaction to the

amoxicillin is being pushed way down deep into your husband's body by the

benadryl and steroids. It must come out in some other manner down the road.

IMHO, of course.

Sharyn

-----Original Message-----

From: health

[mailto:health ] On Behalf Of cgiambri

Sharyn,

What did they do for your grandson? Was his stomach all red like

sunburn too? My son is saying my husband must take benadryl to get

rid of the hives besides the med that has predisone in it of some

sort.

[Guest guest]

Sharyn -

You're right about the delayed reaction. When my daughter was

little she had a similar reaction to a sulfa based antibiotic. We

took her off of it, gave her cortisone, etc, and a different drug.

Fast forward about ten years and she was bit by a spider. Her dad

was the one that took her into the clinic and the doctor prescribed a

sulfa antibiotic. I was at work when she was taken home and given

the first dose, but she reacted with almost full blown anaphylaxis.

I've done the same thing with myself and codeine. I took codeine

years ago when I had my wisdom teeth removed and it made me vomit, break

out in hives, etc., but I was able to take the whole bottle. I took

it again maybe ten years later after being in a car accident but could

only take it for 2-3 days before the hives, face swelling, etc., got to

be too much. I took it again for another tooth extraction about 3

years ago and my throat swelled to the point I couldn't breathe. Be

really careful with your husband.

08:46 AM 10/4/2007, you wrote:

I don't remember that they gave

my grandson anything. The said to stop

giving him the amoxicillin and the measle-like spots would go away

by

themselves. They did. I don't recall a stomach all red like sunburn,

just

spots that looked like measles.

It worries me that they're telling him to keep taking the amoxicillin

and

then to take benadryl and steroids to counteract his reaction to it.

I

think it's asking for big trouble down the road, because the reaction to

the

amoxicillin is being pushed way down deep into your husband's body by

the

benadryl and steroids. It must come out in some other manner down the

road.

IMHO, of course.

Sharyn

[Guest guest]

Just a quick hello here. Allergic

reactions like this to drugs are life-threatening and require Benadryl and

sometimes epinephrine and/or prednisone to stop the immune system from killing

the patient. He is never ever to have any kind of penicillin again and

you should have him wear a bracelet or carry a card in his wallet that states

he is allergic. The next time he may not have time to go to the

hospital. People have died in less than 5 minutes from these reactions.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Landes

Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007

9:01 AM

health

Subject: RE:

Re: husband's drug reaction

Sharyn -

You're right about the delayed reaction. When my daughter was little she

had a similar reaction to a sulfa based antibiotic. We took her off of

it, gave her cortisone, etc, and a different drug. Fast forward about ten

years and she was bit by a spider. Her dad was the one that took her into

the clinic and the doctor prescribed a sulfa antibiotic. I was at work

when she was taken home and given the first dose, but she reacted with almost

full blown anaphylaxis. I've done the same thing with myself and

codeine. I took codeine years ago when I had my wisdom teeth removed and

it made me vomit, break out in hives, etc., but I was able to take the whole

bottle. I took it again maybe ten years later after being in a car

accident but could only take it for 2-3 days before the hives, face swelling,

etc., got to be too much. I took it again for another tooth extraction

about 3 years ago and my throat swelled to the point I couldn't breathe.

Be really careful with your husband.

08:46 AM 10/4/2007, you wrote:

I don't remember that they gave my grandson anything. The said to stop

giving him the amoxicillin and the measle-like spots would go away by

themselves. They did. I don't recall a stomach all red like sunburn, just

spots that looked like measles.

It worries me that they're telling him to keep taking the amoxicillin and

then to take benadryl and steroids to counteract his reaction to it. I

think it's asking for big trouble down the road, because the reaction to the

amoxicillin is being pushed way down deep into your husband's body by the

benadryl and steroids. It must come out in some other manner down the road.

IMHO, of course.

Sharyn

[Guest guest]

What bothers me, Janet, is that the

doctors are telling him to *keep taking*

the amoxicillin, but to take Benadryl and prednisone to stop the side-effects.

This is playing Russian Roulette, if you ask me.

Sharyn

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Janet

Just a quick hello here. Allergic

reactions like this to drugs are life-threatening and require Benadryl and sometimes

epinephrine and/or prednisone to stop the immune system from killing the

patient. He is never ever to have any kind of penicillin again and you

should have him wear a bracelet or carry a card in his wallet that states he is

allergic. The next time he may not have time to go to the hospital.

People have died in less than 5 minutes from these reactions.

[Guest guest]

Sharyn,

No they took hubby off amoxillin immediately when he went there and

hasn't and will never take it again. Thanks for sharing.

Hugs,

carolg

>

> What bothers me, Janet, is that the doctors are telling him to

*keep taking*

> the amoxicillin, but to take Benadryl and prednisone to stop the

> side-effects. This is playing Russian Roulette, if you ask me.

>

>

>

> Sharyn

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: health

> [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Janet

>

>

>

> Just a quick hello here. Allergic reactions like this to drugs are

> life-threatening and require Benadryl and sometimes epinephrine

and/or

>

[Guest guest]

,

Wow, the power of these awful drugs.

I can't believe this nightmare.

Hugs,

carol.........thanks for wisdom g/friend

>

> >I don't remember that they gave my grandson anything. The said to

stop

> >giving him the amoxicillin and the measle-like spots would go

away by

> >themselves. They did. I don't recall a stomach all red like

sunburn, just

> >spots that looked like measles.

> >

> >It worries me that they're telling him to keep taking the

amoxicillin and

> >then to take benadryl and steroids to counteract his reaction to

it. I

> >think it's asking for big trouble down the road, because the

reaction to the

> >amoxicillin is being pushed way down deep into your husband's

body by the

> >benadryl and steroids. It must come out in some other manner down

the road.

> >IMHO, of course.

> >

> >Sharyn

>

[Guest guest]

Didn't realize the bracelet would be necessary, but yes. Where do

we get that or card.

hug,s

carolg

>

> What bothers me, Janet, is that the doctors are telling him to

*keep taking*

> the amoxicillin, but to take Benadryl and prednisone to stop the

> side-effects. This is playing Russian Roulette, if you ask me.

>

>

>

> Sharyn

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: health

> [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Janet

>

>

>

> Just a quick hello here. Allergic reactions like this to drugs are

> life-threatening and require Benadryl and sometimes epinephrine

and/or

> prednisone to stop the immune system from killing the patient. He

is never

> ever to have any kind of penicillin again and you should have him

wear a

> bracelet or carry a card in his wallet that states he is

allergic. The next

> time he may not have time to go to the hospital. People have died

in less

> than 5 minutes from these reactions.

>

[Guest guest]

Bracelet or necklace should be available at any pharmacy, or

on-line.

At 05:40 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote:

Didn't realize the bracelet

would be necessary, but yes. Where do

we get that or card.

hug,s

carolg

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for info.

I'll get that for my stubborn husband.

hugs,

carolg

>

> >Didn't realize the bracelet would be necessary, but yes. Where do

> >we get that or card.

> >

> >hug,s

> >carolg

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is, and they should have switched

him to another class of antibiotics all together.  If I were you, I would take

him off the amoxicillin completely, finish the pred, use the Benadryl as

needed, and treat the infection with super tonic or garlic.  Tell him I said

hang in there, I have had reactions worse than his many times, it is never fun.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Sharyn E. Cerniglia

Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007

1:58 PM

health

Subject: RE:

Re: husband's drug reaction

What bothers me, Janet, is that the doctors are telling him to *keep taking* the amoxicillin, but to take

Benadryl and prednisone to stop the side-effects. This is playing Russian

Roulette, if you ask me.

Sharyn

From: health

[mailto:health ]

On Behalf Of Janet

Just a quick hello here. Allergic reactions like this to

drugs are life-threatening and require Benadryl and sometimes epinephrine

and/or prednisone to stop the immune system from killing the patient. He

is never ever to have any kind of penicillin again and you should have him wear

a bracelet or carry a card in his wallet that states he is allergic. The

next time he may not have time to go to the hospital. People have died in

less than 5 minutes from these reactions.