Pineapple

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In a message dated 11/16/01 3:45:37 PM EST, kjorn@... writes:

<< Three people so far have had problems with papain (papaya) and/or

bromelain (pineapple). Two knew this before trying enzymes. All three

were unable to adjust or tolerate the Houston enzymes or any other

product containing these ingredients. >>

By " problem with pineapple " do you mean an allergy, or just becoming hyper,

probably due to high phenol content? My son becomes hyper on pineapple, but I

do not feel he has an allergy. We've been using EnZymAid but had also briefly

(three days) tried Peptizide. I went back on the EnZymAid only because I was

able to get it down him so much more easily.

Interestingly, I had him muscle response tested with both the EnZymAid and

the Houston products. Results showed that EnZymAid would work, neither of the

Houston products would. I've had my son and myself musle response tested

several times by several different people, and this particular practicioner

used a technique unlike any I'd experience before, and I was not and am not

sure how seriously to take her results, just to add to the confusion. (And I

never was sure how seriously to take muscle response testing in the past by

the other practicioners either!)

I think I put a question up there somewhere but now feel I'm rambling so had

better stop!

Debbie

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>>> By " problem with pineapple " do you mean an allergy, or just

becoming hyper, probably due to high phenol content? My son becomes

hyper on pineapple, but I do not feel he has an allergy. We've been

using EnZymAid but had also briefly (three days) tried Peptizide. I

went back on the EnZymAid only because I was able to get it down him

so much more easily.

I'm not sure how muscle testing works or know its reliability so I

will skip that part. By problem with pineapple, I think it includes

anything you feel is problematic to the degree that the product does

more harm than good. The reference given does say that it turns out

thes are usually associated with an IgE (true allergy) mediated

response, which can include anaphalactis, hives, and histamine

reactions, but it could include other things as well (such as

behavior).

.

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Hi Debbie,

Could you please explain what muscle response testing is? This sounds very

interesting especially if it helps determine which products will work and which

won't. I have wasted so much money over the years trying different supplements

that are suppose to help, some did and some didn't but you don't know until you

spend the money.

Tks,

Tana

Interestingly, I had him muscle response tested with both the EnZymAid and

the Houston products. Results showed that EnZymAid would work, neither of the

Houston products would. I've had my son and myself musle response tested

several times by several different people, and this particular practicioner

used a technique unlike any I'd experience before, and I was not and am not

sure how seriously to take her results, just to add to the confusion. (And I

never was sure how seriously to take muscle response testing in the past by

the other practicioners either!)

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Suzanne,

Sorry, I don't have an answer for you, but my sympathies go out to

you! Thanks for the laugh, although I'm sorry at what you are going

through. Even if the pineapple doesn't help, it will taste good as

you " labor " through it.

Hang in there - no, don't!

> I am two weeks from my due date and have read that pineapple has a

> substance that is supposed to push you toward labor. Does anyone

know if

> this is the same thing? I bought a pineapple yesterday and plan on

> eating the whole darn thing, hahaha.

>

> Suzanne

>

>

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Suzanne,

I took an herbal extract called blue cohash to get my labor going.

I was two weeks overdue and did not want petosin! It is a natural

sort of petosin but much milder. My membranes were seperated

already and I was dialated at 2 cm. If you are not already somewhat

ready like this it will not work and is not a good idea. You could

also drink castor oil (YUCK!) I have heard of that too. Good luck

and good labor, Maddie

>

> >

> > Some children I believe react badly to the bromelain which is

> > pineapple.  So certain enzymes containing bromelain would not

work for

> > your child.  But I know HNI has recently announced two new

products,

> > Peptizyde AFP and No-Fenol, which I don't *think* have bromelain

but

> > you would have to check and see.

>

>

>

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> I am two weeks from my due date and have read that pineapple has a

> substance that is supposed to push you toward labor. Does anyone

know if

> this is the same thing? I bought a pineapple yesterday and plan on

> eating the whole darn thing, hahaha.

>

> Suzanne

LOLOLOLOLOL

You make me laugh!!

I don't have an answer to this question. My mother says she used

castor oil and then drank orange juice and pushed me out in about 20

minutes, but she says she does NOT recommend this method because she

was sooooo sick LOL

I was not overdue for any of my kids, altho I was induced with #3 and

#4 because of fetal distress issues related to gestational diabetes.

But so long as you are not allergic to pineapple or anything like

that, I sure don't see why you can't try eating the entire thing and

letting all of us know if it works!

[brush your teeth after tho, pineapple acid gives me mouth ulcers.]

Good luck and congrats on your new baby.

Dana

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-Lol Suzanne!! I don't know about pineapple. I tried raspberry tea in

great quantities(my dr said I had to be a fingertip dilated to be

induced) and I got there and was induced 2 weeks early(a little extra

time with my husband didn't hurt either...she says blushing.) I was

trying to avoid a second c-section that's why the inducement so my

son wouldn't get too big and lower my odds(I wound up with the c-

section anyway but that's ok.) Good luck to you!! Congratulations on

your new baby!! Mine is 5mo already and the time just flew by.

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In @y..., Suzanne Dunford <wykhurst@e...> wrote:

> I am two weeks from my due date and have read that pineapple has a

> substance that is supposed to push you toward labor. Does anyone

know if

> this is the same thing? I bought a pineapple yesterday and plan on

> eating the whole darn thing, hahaha.

>

> Suzanne

>

>

> On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 12:11 PM, danaatty wrote:

>

> >

> > Some children I believe react badly to the bromelain which is

> > pineapple.  So certain enzymes containing bromelain would not

work for

> > your child.  But I know HNI has recently announced two new

products,

> > Peptizyde AFP and No-Fenol, which I don't *think* have bromelain

but

> > you would have to check and see.

>

>

>

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Did it work? LOL!

I drank Raspberry Leaf Tea to prod my labor along, but I didn't know enough

about it and didn't drink enough. I only drank one cup a day, where I should

have drank 3-4 to increase contractions. I love my tea, it is an excellent

source of iron, calcium, magnesium and a few B vits. I heartily recommend it

after your pineapple, since you aren't going to want to eat more than a couple

of those, even if you are the size of all things big ;-)

I do believe that I've read that bromelain is a source for prostaglandins,

whether one will do it or not, we'll have to see :-)

.

--- Suzanne Dunford wrote:

---------------------------------

I am two weeks from my due date and have read that pineapple has a

substance that is supposed to push you toward labor. Does anyone know if

this is the same thing? I bought a pineapple yesterday and plan on

eating the whole darn thing, hahaha.

Suzanne

On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 12:11 PM, danaatty wrote:

>

> Some children I believe react badly to the bromelain which is

> pineapple.  So certain enzymes containing bromelain would not work for

> your child.  But I know HNI has recently announced two new products,

> Peptizyde AFP and No-Fenol, which I don't *think* have bromelain but

> you would have to check and see.

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,

I seriously ate an entire pineapple. Ya know, they're not THAT big once

you cut off everything you can't eat. ha! No baby yet. I have been

having sporadic contractions but have been trying all manner of things

so who knows if the pineapple has anything to do with it. If it is a

prostglandin source then the Evening Primrose Oil I'm taking should be a

better source, don't you think?

I have not tried Raspberry Leaf Tea, I think I will buy some today!!!

Suzanne, who truly is all things big. :-)

On Wednesday, April 3, 2002, at 07:53 AM, Fred Davies wrote:

>

> Did it work? LOL!

>

> I drank Raspberry Leaf Tea to prod my labor along, but I didn't know

> enough about it and didn't drink enough. I only drank one cup a day,

> where I should have drank 3-4 to increase contractions. I love my tea,

> it is an excellent source of iron, calcium, magnesium and a few B

> vits. I heartily recommend it after your pineapple, since you aren't

> going to want to eat more than a couple of those, even if you are the

> size of all things big ;-)

>

> I do believe that I've read that bromelain is a source for

> prostaglandins, whether one will do it or not, we'll have to see :-)

>

> .

>

> --- Suzanne Dunford wrote:

> ---------------------------------

> I am two weeks from my due date and have read that pineapple has a

> substance that is supposed to push you toward labor. Does anyone know if

> this is the same thing? I bought a pineapple yesterday and plan on

> eating the whole darn thing, hahaha.

>

> Suzanne

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Depends whether or not the child is allergic to it. My son is allergic, but not

my daughter (both are PDDNOS).

[ ] Pineapple

Is this an okay food for our kids, i.e. phenol, etc.? Has anyone seen

benefits or

problems?

Thanks,

Jill

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a...wow...something that is good for you that I

actually like to eat! I really think that I need to

increase my intake of pina coladas. Iris

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I found this on Pineapple.... (BTW, I LOVE Pineapple!!)

PINEAPPLES: NATURE'S HEALING FRUIT

By N. Gilbert, B.Sc.

Submitted by the author 15 Aug 2002

Want to give your body a boost in health and healing? Then you may

want to add some fresh pineapple and pineapple juice to your diet.

Pineapples are nutritionally packed members of the bromeliad family.

This delightful tropical fruit is high in the enzyme bromelain and

the antioxidant vitamin C, both of which plays a major role in the

body's healing process.

Bromelain is a natural anti-inflammatory that has many health

benefits and encourages healing. According to Dr. Weil,

bromelain is very effective in treating bruises, sprains and strains

by reducing swelling, tenderness and pain. This powerful anti-

inflammatory effect can also help relieve rheumatoid arthritis

symptoms and reduce postoperative swelling. Additionally, the

bromelain contained in fresh pineapple can relieve indigestion. This

enzyme helps break down the amino acid bonds in proteins, which

promotes good digestion.

Pineapples provide an ample supply of vitamin C too, a commonly known

antioxidant that protects the body from free radical damage and

boosts the immune system. Vitamin C helps build and repair bodily

tissue and promotes wound healing. The body uses vitamin C to help

metabolize fats and cholesterol, absorb iron, and synthesize amino

acids and collagen. Collagen is one of the primary building blocks

of skin, cartilage and bones. Vitamin C also decreases the severity

of colds and infections.

Furthermore, due to its high vitamin C content, pineapples are good

for your oral health as well. A study conducted at the State

University of New York at Buffalo found that vitamin C can reduce

your risk of gingivitis and periodontal disease. Besides increasing

the ability of connective tissue to repair itself, vitamin C also

increases the body's ability to fight invading bacteria and other

toxins that contribute to gum disease. Periodontal disease, which

destroys gum tissue and underlying jaw bones, has been linked to

heart disease, stroke and type 2 diabetes.

So if you want a natural way to enhance your body's healing

mechanisms, promote overall good health and tantalize your taste

buds, pineapples are the way to go. Choose the fresh fruit because

it has the most healing properties. Unfortunately, most of the

bromelain in canned pineapple is destroyed due to the heat used in

the canning process.

When choosing a fresh pineapple, do not judge ripeness solely based

upon color. There are several varieties on the market that range

from green to golden yellow. The most important factor in

determining ripeness is smell, let your nose help you decide. Ripe

pineapples give off a sweet, fresh tropical smell. Avoid pineapples

that give off an unpleasant odor or have any soft spots or areas of

dark discoloration. Once home, let the pineapple sit on your counter

at room temperature until ready to use. This will preserve its sweet

and tangy flavor.

To prepare pineapple, you need to peel it, remove the eyes (the

thorny protrusions within the puffy squares of the skin) and the

fibrous center. First, cut off the top and bottom of the pineapple

with a sharp knife. Place the pineapple upright on a cutting board

and carefully slice off the outer skin. With a sharp paring knife or

the end if a vegetable peeler, remove the eyes. Don't cut too deep,

just enough to lift out the section that contains the eye. Then,

remove the fibrous core. One way to do this is to cut the pineapple

lengthwise into 4 wedges (quarter it) and cut around the fibrous

center core. Another popular way is to slice the pineapple crosswise

and remove the cores individually with a cookie cutter. Once the

fruit is prepared, it can be diced and eaten fresh, added to salads

and entrees for an exotic flavor, or made into tasty tropical

drinks.

Peace, love, laughter

5 of 27, Tertiary Adjunct of UniMatrix H.A.W.K.

You can't help respecting anybody who can spell TUESDAY, even if he

doesn't spell it right; but spelling isn't everything. There are days

when spelling Tuesday simply doesn't count.

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I don't know. I love it too but it makes my lips sore.

Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlaeranch@...

Pineapple

I found this on Pineapple.... (BTW, I LOVE Pineapple!!)PINEAPPLES: NATURE'S HEALING FRUITBy N. Gilbert, B.Sc.Submitted by the author 15 Aug 2002Want to give your body a boost in health and healing? Then you may want to add some fresh pineapple and pineapple juice to your diet. Pineapples are nutritionally packed members of the bromeliad family. This delightful tropical fruit is high in the enzyme bromelain and the antioxidant vitamin C, both of which plays a major role in the body's healing process.Bromelain is a natural anti-inflammatory that has many health benefits and encourages healing. According to Dr. Weil, bromelain is very effective in treating bruises, sprains and strains by reducing swelling, tenderness and pain. This powerful anti-inflammatory effect can also help relieve rheumatoid arthritis symptoms and reduce postoperative swelling. Additionally, the bromelain contained in fresh pineapple can relieve indigestion. This enzyme helps break down the amino acid bonds in proteins, which promotes good digestion. Pineapples provide an ample supply of vitamin C too, a commonly known antioxidant that protects the body from free radical damage and boosts the immune system. Vitamin C helps build and repair bodily tissue and promotes wound healing. The body uses vitamin C to help metabolize fats and cholesterol, absorb iron, and synthesize amino acids and collagen. Collagen is one of the primary building blocks of skin, cartilage and bones. Vitamin C also decreases the severity of colds and infections. Furthermore, due to its high vitamin C content, pineapples are good for your oral health as well. A study conducted at the State University of New York at Buffalo found that vitamin C can reduce your risk of gingivitis and periodontal disease. Besides increasing the ability of connective tissue to repair itself, vitamin C also increases the body's ability to fight invading bacteria and other toxins that contribute to gum disease. Periodontal disease, which destroys gum tissue and underlying jaw bones, has been linked to heart disease, stroke and type 2 diabetes.So if you want a natural way to enhance your body's healing mechanisms, promote overall good health and tantalize your taste buds, pineapples are the way to go. Choose the fresh fruit because it has the most healing properties. Unfortunately, most of the bromelain in canned pineapple is destroyed due to the heat used in the canning process. When choosing a fresh pineapple, do not judge ripeness solely based upon color. There are several varieties on the market that range from green to golden yellow. The most important factor in determining ripeness is smell, let your nose help you decide. Ripe pineapples give off a sweet, fresh tropical smell. Avoid pineapples that give off an unpleasant odor or have any soft spots or areas of dark discoloration. Once home, let the pineapple sit on your counter at room temperature until ready to use. This will preserve its sweet and tangy flavor. To prepare pineapple, you need to peel it, remove the eyes (the thorny protrusions within the puffy squares of the skin) and the fibrous center. First, cut off the top and bottom of the pineapple with a sharp knife. Place the pineapple upright on a cutting board and carefully slice off the outer skin. With a sharp paring knife or the end if a vegetable peeler, remove the eyes. Don't cut too deep, just enough to lift out the section that contains the eye. Then, remove the fibrous core. One way to do this is to cut the pineapple lengthwise into 4 wedges (quarter it) and cut around the fibrous center core. Another popular way is to slice the pineapple crosswise and remove the cores individually with a cookie cutter. Once the fruit is prepared, it can be diced and eaten fresh, added to salads and entrees for an exotic flavor, or made into tasty tropical drinks. Peace, love, laughter5 of 27, Tertiary Adjunct of UniMatrix H.A.W.K.You can't help respecting anybody who can spell TUESDAY, even if he doesn't spell it right; but spelling isn't everything. There are days when spelling Tuesday simply doesn't count.