Re: Do We Have Bird Mites?

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>

> Can a kitten harbor bird mites? In August, we kept a rescue kitten

in

> our home for two days. The only thing we know about his background

is

> he was found wandering a parking lot. He was only in our house a few

> hours and one of our cats started scratching his facial area. I

can't

> remember how long it took for us to start itching, but it seems like

> it was a good week or two.

>

> The itching started on the arms and torso where clothing was

tightest.

> That lasted a while before they started moving to the head. Now,

> they're on the scalp, face and feet as well. If I don't keep the

area

> around my eyes covered with sulfur cream, they try crawling into the

> eye corners, eyelashes, and eyebrows. They crawl up the nose and

into

> the ears. We haven't seen any burrows, but we do get occasional bite

> marks of various sizes. The horrible crawling sensations are pretty

> much constant with pinprick biting to a lesser degree.

>

> We took our cats to the vet, and he suspected the Cheylitiella

> (walking dandruff) or Notoedric mite, but the skin scrapping didn't

> show anything. The cats primarily scratch and groom their

> face/neck/ears, but also their genital region and feet. After two

> rounds of Revolution and two sulfur dips, they're still scratching.

> And so are we.

>

> All feedback is appreciated!

This creature is parasetic. I beleive it can infect any warm blooded

creature, perhaps cold blooded. There are mites that affect snakes

and frogs. My suggestion to you with my own experience owning many

animals and being infected is use diatomaceous earth food grade only.

A healer of both animals and human has been a BIG help to me through

this her link is. http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/ I have used

this DE on all my pets fur and included in their diet and mine. I

also found this to be the only way to eradicte them from my home. Be

cautious how much you use on the carpet or you will replace a sweeper

or two. LOL This site offers many holistic products for your health

and the animal. I also tried cedarcide this was not real affective in

eradication however has been a livesave for bites to me. Also great

for animals paws and ears. This creature seems only agitated and not

eradicated with any type of chemical.

Good Luck and God Bless.

>

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>

> Can a kitten harbor bird mites? In August, we kept a rescue kitten

in

> our home for two days. The only thing we know about his background

is

> he was found wandering a parking lot. He was only in our house a few

> hours and one of our cats started scratching his facial area. I

can't

> remember how long it took for us to start itching, but it seems like

> it was a good week or two.

>

> The itching started on the arms and torso where clothing was

tightest.

> That lasted a while before they started moving to the head. Now,

> they're on the scalp, face and feet as well. If I don't keep the

area

> around my eyes covered with sulfur cream, they try crawling into the

> eye corners, eyelashes, and eyebrows. They crawl up the nose and

into

> the ears. We haven't seen any burrows, but we do get occasional bite

> marks of various sizes. The horrible crawling sensations are pretty

> much constant with pinprick biting to a lesser degree.

>

> We took our cats to the vet, and he suspected the Cheylitiella

> (walking dandruff) or Notoedric mite, but the skin scrapping didn't

> show anything. The cats primarily scratch and groom their

> face/neck/ears, but also their genital region and feet. After two

> rounds of Revolution and two sulfur dips, they're still scratching.

> And so are we.

>

> All feedback is appreciated!

This creature is parasetic. I beleive it can infect any warm blooded

creature, perhaps cold blooded. There are mites that affect snakes

and frogs. My suggestion to you with my own experience owning many

animals and being infected is use diatomaceous earth food grade only.

A healer of both animals and human has been a BIG help to me through

this her link is. http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/ I have used

this DE on all my pets fur and included in their diet and mine. I

also found this to be the only way to eradicte them from my home. Be

cautious how much you use on the carpet or you will replace a sweeper

or two. LOL This site offers many holistic products for your health

and the animal. I also tried cedarcide this was not real affective in

eradication however has been a livesave for bites to me. Also great

for animals paws and ears. This creature seems only agitated and not

eradicated with any type of chemical.

Good Luck and God Bless.

>

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From what we experience with our dogs it sounds like you have caught the same "thing" we had. Our dogs started to itch and they would lick their feet constantly. Then they started to push their little faces against every corner in the house trying to get at the itch. Their hair was falling out. They even started to scratch in their sleep. They would sneeze until they were weak from it. We spent thousands of dollars trying to help our little dogs. Our Vet. never found what was on them and he dug and dug. Our neighbors dog caught something that looked just like what our dogs had. The difference was that we came down with the itch just like our little dogs but our neighbors never showed any signs of the itch, crawling, rash or bites marks. Since the humans at our neighbors weren't itching we all worked with the dog. They had 2 dogs....only one started to itch. It's hair was falling out, skin very red in places and it stopped eating because all it could do was scratch. I would cook hamburger meat so to increase the fat in the dogs diet and I bought the revolution because our neighbors could not afford it. We put the revolution on every 7 days for 6 months. They gave that dog Benadryl for months so it could get some relief. Finally after 6 months of this the dog stopped itching. This is one of the hardest fights you will ever fight. There are a lot of good ways to deal with this and I pray the time you spend fighting this will be short. Rita

Do We Have Bird Mites?

Can a kitten harbor bird mites? In August, we kept a rescue kitten inour home for two days. The only thing we know about his background ishe was found wandering a parking lot. He was only in our house a fewhours and one of our cats started scratching his facial area. I can'tremember how long it took for us to start itching, but it seems likeit was a good week or two. The itching started on the arms and torso where clothing was tightest.That lasted a while before they started moving to the head. Now,they're on the scalp, face and feet as well. If I don't keep the areaaround my eyes covered with sulfur cream, they try crawling into theeye corners, eyelashes, and eyebrows. They crawl up the nose and intothe ears. We haven't seen any burrows, but we do get occasional bitemarks of various sizes. The horrible crawling sensations are prettymuch constant with pinprick biting to a lesser degree. We took our cats to the vet, and he suspected the Cheylitiella(walking dandruff) or Notoedric mite, but the skin scrapping didn'tshow anything. The cats primarily scratch and groom theirface/neck/ears, but also their genital region and feet. After tworounds of Revolution and two sulfur dips, they're still scratching.And so are we. All feedback is appreciated!

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A kitten could harbor bird mites. I got my bird mites from my cat,

who got them from sleeping in abandoned chicken nests. The kitten may

have had rat mites. I understand that the symptoms from rat mites are

similar (unless the rats are harboring bird mites and then passing

them along). I'm sorry to hear of your misfortune, especially since

you were doing a good deed!

myrtle

>

> Can a kitten harbor bird mites? In August, we kept a rescue kitten in

> our home for two days. The only thing we know about his background is

> he was found wandering a parking lot. He was only in our house a few

> hours and one of our cats started scratching his facial area. I can't

> remember how long it took for us to start itching, but it seems like

> it was a good week or two.

>

> The itching started on the arms and torso where clothing was tightest.

> That lasted a while before they started moving to the head. Now,

> they're on the scalp, face and feet as well. If I don't keep the area

> around my eyes covered with sulfur cream, they try crawling into the

> eye corners, eyelashes, and eyebrows. They crawl up the nose and into

> the ears. We haven't seen any burrows, but we do get occasional bite

> marks of various sizes. The horrible crawling sensations are pretty

> much constant with pinprick biting to a lesser degree.

>

> We took our cats to the vet, and he suspected the Cheylitiella

> (walking dandruff) or Notoedric mite, but the skin scrapping didn't

> show anything. The cats primarily scratch and groom their

> face/neck/ears, but also their genital region and feet. After two

> rounds of Revolution and two sulfur dips, they're still scratching.

> And so are we.

>

> All feedback is appreciated!

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks all for your input and advice, folks. My husband's going to

make an appointment with the doctor soon. But from everything I've

read, they're fairly clueless at diagnosing mites. Are there any tests

we should suggest they do while he's there? Have any of you been

diagnosed by an MD or did you have to figure it out yourself? I'm

wondering if there isn't some way to catch one of these things and get

a positive ID on it. It's truly hell not knowing....

> >

> > Can a kitten harbor bird mites? In August, we kept a rescue kitten in

> > our home for two days. The only thing we know about his background is

> > he was found wandering a parking lot. He was only in our house a few

> > hours and one of our cats started scratching his facial area. I can't

> > remember how long it took for us to start itching, but it seems like

> > it was a good week or two.

> >

> > The itching started on the arms and torso where clothing was tightest.

> > That lasted a while before they started moving to the head. Now,

> > they're on the scalp, face and feet as well. If I don't keep the area

> > around my eyes covered with sulfur cream, they try crawling into the

> > eye corners, eyelashes, and eyebrows. They crawl up the nose and into

> > the ears. We haven't seen any burrows, but we do get occasional bite

> > marks of various sizes. The horrible crawling sensations are pretty

> > much constant with pinprick biting to a lesser degree.

> >

> > We took our cats to the vet, and he suspected the Cheylitiella

> > (walking dandruff) or Notoedric mite, but the skin scrapping didn't

> > show anything. The cats primarily scratch and groom their

> > face/neck/ears, but also their genital region and feet. After two

> > rounds of Revolution and two sulfur dips, they're still scratching.

> > And so are we.

> >

> > All feedback is appreciated!

> >

>

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Ohhh Gosh.... I hate to tell you this, but probably 95% of everyone

on this list has been to the Dr's offices time and time again and has

ended up being called Delusional... Or the physician will humor you

and prescribe Eurax or some other Permetherin based creams which are

nerurotoxic, that do not work. ne is another extremely expensive

neurotoxin ... And guess what? It doesn't work. The only thing that

you will do successfully is poison your body.

Few on the otherhand have had great success in seeing their

practitioner.

I think the key may be to not go into the physician's office

distraught. Keep a level head... almost as if " it's no big deal " .

Even though YOU know in your heart that it is. Don't force the issue

on him/her.

I know that sounds crazy.. but the minute you break down and start

crying and flailing and etc... He/she will label you as " Nuts " ...

Mark my word...

It has been a disheartening experience for so many. To be fighting a

monster that can not be seen.

We have felt them crawl up our noses, in our ears and everywhere else

one can imagine.

The best & safest treatment that I have seen on this list is

using " Dehumidifiers " to keep the environment as dry as possible.

There isn't a living thing alive that can survive without some type

of moisture. When you get a chance do a search for a topic

called " Please Don't Water The Mites " by Jeff Teeters. He explains

his research and tells " why " this works and " How " it works.

Another thing to do is to Vacuum like crazy. Especially all cracks

and crevices in the home.

Food Grade DE seems to work as well.

Some have used Essential Oil mixtures to treat their environment.

Keep treating the pets. DON'T STOP! Have your vet treat them with

Ivermectin weekly for 8 weeks... then start the Lime/Sulfur dips for

as long as the pet can take it, appx. 6 weeks. If your pet starts

showing any symptoms stop the dips immediately. During the time you

are using the Ivermectin, rub your pet down lightly with Olive Oil.

Do not use the Olive oil while doing the dips.

This was how we were able to save our wonderful kitties. Cats are

groomers so you have to be careful what you put on them.

Clean & sanitize the pet areas and their bedding constantly. Washing

as often as you can. Throw away any fiberous toys... such as fuzzy,

furry or stringy toys. Get a flea comb and comb your pets daily to

aid in getting these mites off of them. Dip the comb in a solution of

Dawn dishwashing liquid w/water.

DO NOT wash nor dry the pet bedding in YOUR washer and dryer. This

will only result in complete infestation which will then be

immediately transferred to your clothing. (This was a mistake that we

made!) Wash and dry all pet bedding at the laundromat. The commercial

dryers get much hotter and will kill any mites therein.

Wash all of your clothing in Detergent, (Bleach for whites) &

(Ammonia for colors) & Clagon Water Softener & 20 Mule Team Borax.

Clean and bleach the dryer lint trap each and every time. I can't

stress how important this is.

Wash your sheets daily or use a heavy duty lint roller to roll your

sheets every night before you go to bed. DO NOT got to bed without

bathing.

Keep yourselves as unnatractive as possible to the mites. You may

want to try to put a small amount of Aquaphor up your nose to keep

them from getting into your sinuses. Smear a q-tip with it and twirl

away! Same for the ears. Another thing that works is a Vics Vapo Rub

Menthol Inhaler in the little tube. They hate this and will come out

screaming!

Use a small amount of Baby Oil Gel w/Lavender to smear on the private

areas. This will stop them from crawling around where they shouldn't

be.

Organic oils work great too and are better for your body in the long

run.

A great bathing protocol is Ray's protocol in the files section here

which enlists the use of Listerine! Awesome stuff! If you can

tolerate it... Epsom Salt dried on the skin is another wonderful

approach.

Gold Bond Medicated Lotion has worked for some to aid in a good

night's sleep as well as using the same in the talc sprinkled on the

sheets.

But anyway... the above are just some of the things that have worked

for us and some others.

If you are able to get your mite Id'd... then that's Wonderful as you

will know more about how to treat yourselves and your environment.

But in the meantime... don't wait... start a protocol that you find

works for you and Clean... Clean.. Clean...!!!!!!

You may want to bear in mind that this is a parasite. If you have

felt them crawl up into your nose and into your ears... then you are

internally infested. Don't kid youself as I had done in the beginning

of our infestation. We have been " externally " mite free since June...

But are now fighting internal issues... Find a good anti-parasitic

and start cleansing...

This is not going to be an easy fight and will no doubt be the

hardest work that you will ever do in your life. Let alone the most

expensive. My heart goes out to you and to all of those still

suffering with this. But you CAN win this battle. Everyone is here

for you and everyone has some wonderful tried and true methods.

Good luck with your Physician. Keep us posted and let us know how it

goes.

May God Bless and Keep you and yours!

Trly

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> Thanks all for your input and advice, folks. My husband's going to

> make an appointment with the doctor soon. But from everything I've

> read, they're fairly clueless at diagnosing mites. Are there any

tests

> we should suggest they do while he's there? Have any of you been

> diagnosed by an MD or did you have to figure it out yourself? I'm

> wondering if there isn't some way to catch one of these things and

get

> a positive ID on it. It's truly hell not knowing....

>

>

>

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I tried responding earlier but not sure where the post went, so my

apologies if this appears twice. Anyway, I just wanted to thank

everyone for the incredibly helpful responses.

Is there any way to catch these things? I'd love to bring one in to

the white-coat to prove we're not delusional. And hopefully get a

positive ID at the same time.

How do you keep these things out of the eyes? I've been slathering my

face with sulfur creme but it's drying my face out. I've also tried

vaseline but it always ends up melting and dripping into my eyes.

> >

> > Thanks all for your input and advice, folks. My husband's going to

> > make an appointment with the doctor soon. But from everything I've

> > read, they're fairly clueless at diagnosing mites. Are there any

> tests

> > we should suggest they do while he's there? Have any of you been

> > diagnosed by an MD or did you have to figure it out yourself? I'm

> > wondering if there isn't some way to catch one of these things and

> get

> > a positive ID on it. It's truly hell not knowing....

> >

> >

> >

>

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I'll let others respond on catching - I've had zero success in over a

year except for tiny black spots that the vet and PCO have not

considered useful for identification purposes.

On keeping them out of the eyes, many people have

recommended/successful advice. What's worked for me is spreading

Gold Bond Extra Strength lotion over the face, being sure to

distribute it well around the eyes (while eyes are closed).

Then, if at night when they are most active, I also add Rohto V. Ice

Eye Drops, which include menthol as an ingredient.

Menthol all over face in lotion layer, menthol in eyes -- no crawling

or bites.

I should add that I put some Gold Bond on finger tips and insert and

spread in ears and nostrils to keep them out of there too. They used

to like both locations.

> > >

> > > Thanks all for your input and advice, folks. My husband's going

to

> > > make an appointment with the doctor soon. But from everything

I've

> > > read, they're fairly clueless at diagnosing mites. Are there

any

> > tests

> > > we should suggest they do while he's there? Have any of you been

> > > diagnosed by an MD or did you have to figure it out yourself?

I'm

> > > wondering if there isn't some way to catch one of these things

and

> > get

> > > a positive ID on it. It's truly hell not knowing....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi

I caught mine by putting a bowl of hot water, with a small light over

it, surounded by the sticky paper you use to catch insects. I left

the light on all night and in the morning there was several little

black specs and a couple of larvae type things on it. I was able to

show the pest control officer it and he said mites. So those little

black specs everyone talks about moved onto my sticky paper so they

definately are alive.

bob

> > > >

> > > > Thanks all for your input and advice, folks. My husband's

going

> to

> > > > make an appointment with the doctor soon. But from everything

> I've

> > > > read, they're fairly clueless at diagnosing mites. Are there

> any

> > > tests

> > > > we should suggest they do while he's there? Have any of you

been

> > > > diagnosed by an MD or did you have to figure it out yourself?

> I'm

> > > > wondering if there isn't some way to catch one of these

things

> and

> > > get

> > > > a positive ID on it. It's truly hell not knowing....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi,

I use the creams (get a lot of refills) from the Dr to spot treat

areas and a Dr can prescibe Ivermectin for you also. Make sure the DR

does a couple of skin scrapings from itching areas. A Dr can also

help to rule out other skin problems even if they can't tell you you

have mites. I had caught a few on sticky paper which I showed to the

pest control dude so he never doubted me. I should have saved them

for the Dr too, although mine tried to be very helpful.

bob

> >

> > Thanks all for your input and advice, folks. My husband's going to

> > make an appointment with the doctor soon. But from everything I've

> > read, they're fairly clueless at diagnosing mites. Are there any

> tests

> > we should suggest they do while he's there? Have any of you been

> > diagnosed by an MD or did you have to figure it out yourself? I'm

> > wondering if there isn't some way to catch one of these things

and

> get

> > a positive ID on it. It's truly hell not knowing....

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

! Suddenly this mention of creams from your Dr.! What are they?

And are they effective at all? Assume not, because of the ongoing need

for the exciting spice baths. But still, you did say you continue to use

them.

Whassup with that???

Thanks,

> > >

> > > Thanks all for your input and advice, folks. My husband's going to

> > > make an appointment with the doctor soon. But from everything I've

> > > read, they're fairly clueless at diagnosing mites. Are there any

> > tests

> > > we should suggest they do while he's there? Have any of you been

> > > diagnosed by an MD or did you have to figure it out yourself? I'm

> > > wondering if there isn't some way to catch one of these things

> and

> > get

> > > a positive ID on it. It's truly hell not knowing....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Howdy,

I've been away from my baths for 8 days and need a little help this

week. The baths have really gotten my body under control. My nose and

feet seem to be a hot spots so I often will throw a little lotion on.

I have Permethrim 5% and Eurax lotion. Shanspirations blogs used them

for spot treatment I believe. Per Rita, I've been trying to follow

success stories and what they do. I love to spice up my life...lol

bob

> > > >

> > > > Thanks all for your input and advice, folks. My husband's

going to

> > > > make an appointment with the doctor soon. But from everything

I've

> > > > read, they're fairly clueless at diagnosing mites. Are there

any

> > > tests

> > > > we should suggest they do while he's there? Have any of you

been

> > > > diagnosed by an MD or did you have to figure it out yourself?

I'm

> > > > wondering if there isn't some way to catch one of these things

> > and

> > > get

> > > > a positive ID on it. It's truly hell not knowing....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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For several years I have kept (prescription) Clobetasol Propionate, a

steroid gel that I typically use only on my hands to control the

itching. Caution: use in moderation and never put gloves on your

hands over this gel. Keep us posted?

KJ

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> > > > > Thanks all for your input and advice, folks. My husband's

> going to

> > > > > make an appointment with the doctor soon. But from

everything

> I've

> > > > > read, they're fairly clueless at diagnosing mites. Are

there

> any

> > > > tests

> > > > > we should suggest they do while he's there? Have any of you

> been

> > > > > diagnosed by an MD or did you have to figure it out

yourself?

> I'm

> > > > > wondering if there isn't some way to catch one of these

things

> > > and

> > > > get

> > > > > a positive ID on it. It's truly hell not knowing....

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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