Re: esp botanicals - your skin gets worse before it gets better

[Guest guest]

Hmmm... this is interesting.

I too have noticed more crawling, especially on my face after

starting to use ESP. And it is during this time that I've noticed

that ppl around me start to scratch - this might have been happening

before but I notice now b/c I feel the crawlies on my face the same

time, which makes me think it's me.

I've been using ESP for 3 weeks now. I only bought the soap but

Trish threw in some sample balm so I've used the balm on occasions

but not regularly. Soap I use everyday whether just doing the 5 min

lathering or masquing after a bath.

The the mixed message I'm getting from you is how you got the

crawling to stop. Are you saying ESP eventually got rid of your

crawlies but took 4 weeks for you? Or are you saying the lime juice

bath is what did it?

kihun

>

> My skin got considerably worse when I started using the esp

botanicals

> (soap and balm), and now it has gotten better. Whatever I was

doing

> before was controlling and suppressing the problem in my skin, but

was

> not resolving the problem. When I first started using the esp

soap, I

> felt a lot of crawling on my skin, which I hadn't felt in a while,

and

> it was pretty bad for about 4 weeks. In the past couple of days,

the

> crawling has stopped, regardless of how much sugar and junk food I

eat

> (by the way I've gained about 15 pounds - burp). To be specific,

the

> crawling stopped after I bathed in a quart of freshly squeezed lime

> juice yesterday morning. I turned the damn bugs into ceviche.

>

> Happy Holidays,

> myrtle

>

[Guest guest]

Me too !!!!! <hiccup> And the left overs we are still working on...

The skin. Whatever is in the skin will come up as the skin cells slough and turnover. Healing will occur from the inside out. The last part of the skin to look good is the part everyone can see. And scarring. OMGosh, I have some white hypopigmented scars that are actually getting normal skin color back! I thought I would be walking around like a polka dotted person for the rest of my younger mid life. Maybe there is New Hope for my skin.

Glad to hear you are doing well Myrtle.

Aloha.....Frito

From: myrtle_maui <myrtle_maui@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:29:42 AMSubject: esp botanicals - your skin gets worse before it gets better

My skin got considerably worse when I started using the esp botanicals(soap and balm), and now it has gotten better. Whatever I was doingbefore was controlling and suppressing the problem in my skin, but wasnot resolving the problem. When I first started using the esp soap, Ifelt a lot of crawling on my skin, which I hadn't felt in a while, andit was pretty bad for about 4 weeks. In the past couple of days, thecrawling has stopped, regardless of how much sugar and junk food I eat(by the way I've gained about 15 pounds - burp). To be specific, thecrawling stopped after I bathed in a quart of freshly squeezed limejuice yesterday morning. I turned the damn bugs into ceviche.Happy Holidays,myrtle

[Guest guest]

ok...so are the esp products that good? I keep reading all the good stuff about it but I dont have any money to 'spare'. I might be able to cut a few corners and order some but its hard buying groceries for 4 children, especially on one income...so, it has to be the bomb-diggidy...what ya think?>> Me too !!!!! <hiccup> And the left overs we are still working on...> > The skin. Whatever is in the skin will come up as the skin cells slough and turnover. Healing will occur from the inside out. The last part of the skin to look good is the part everyone can see. And scarring. OMGosh, I have some white hypopigmented scars that are actually getting normal skin color back! I thought I would be walking around like a polka dotted person for the rest of my younger mid life. Maybe there is New Hope for my skin.> > Glad to hear you are doing well Myrtle. > Aloha......Frito> > > > > ________________________________> From: myrtle_maui myrtle_maui@...> bird mites > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:29:42 AM> Subject: esp botanicals - your skin gets worse before it gets better> > > My skin got considerably worse when I started using the esp botanicals> (soap and balm), and now it has gotten better. Whatever I was doing> before was controlling and suppressing the problem in my skin, but was> not resolving the problem. When I first started using the esp soap, I> felt a lot of crawling on my skin, which I hadn't felt in a while, and> it was pretty bad for about 4 weeks. In the past couple of days, the> crawling has stopped, regardless of how much sugar and junk food I eat> (by the way I've gained about 15 pounds - burp). To be specific, the> crawling stopped after I bathed in a quart of freshly squeezed lime> juice yesterday morning. I turned the damn bugs into ceviche.> > Happy Holidays,> myrtle>

[Guest guest]

It is the bomb-diggity!!!

From: dammitgrl2001 <dammitgrl2001@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:50:12 AMSubject: Re: esp botanicals - your skin gets worse before it gets better

ok...so are the esp products that good? I keep reading all the good stuff about it but I dont have any money to 'spare'. I might be able to cut a few corners and order some but its hard buying groceries for 4 children, especially on one income...so, it has to be the bomb-diggidy. ..what ya think?>> Me too !!!!! <hiccup> And the left overs we are still working on...> > The skin. Whatever is in the skin will come up as the skin cells slough and turnover. Healing will occur from the inside out. The last part of the skin to look good is the part everyone can see. And scarring. OMGosh, I have some white hypopigmented scars that are actually getting normal skin color back! I thought I would be walking around like a polka

dotted person for the rest of my younger mid life. Maybe there is New Hope for my skin.> > Glad to hear you are doing well Myrtle. > Aloha......Frito> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: myrtle_maui myrtle_maui@ ...> bird mites> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:29:42 AM> Subject: esp botanicals - your skin gets worse before it gets better> > > My skin got considerably worse when I started using the esp botanicals> (soap and balm), and now it has gotten better. Whatever I was doing> before was controlling and suppressing the problem in my skin, but was> not resolving the problem. When I first started using the esp soap, I> felt a lot of crawling on my skin, which I hadn't felt in a while, and> it was pretty bad for about 4 weeks. In the past couple of

days, the> crawling has stopped, regardless of how much sugar and junk food I eat> (by the way I've gained about 15 pounds - burp). To be specific, the> crawling stopped after I bathed in a quart of freshly squeezed lime> juice yesterday morning. I turned the damn bugs into ceviche.> > Happy Holidays,> myrtle>

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Me thinks ...YES!!! It is a must have in one's arsenal ! TrlySent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "dammitgrl2001" <dammitgrl2001@...>Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:50:12 -0000<bird mites >Subject: Re: esp botanicals - your skin gets worse before it gets better ok...so are the esp products that good? I keep reading all the good stuff about it but I dont have any money to 'spare'. I might be able to cut a few corners and order some but its hard buying groceries for 4 children, especially on one income...so, it has to be the bomb-diggidy...what ya think?>> Me too !!!!! <hiccup> And the left overs we are still working on...> > The skin. Whatever is in the skin will come up as the skin cells slough and turnover. Healing will occur from the inside out. The last part of the skin to look good is the part everyone can see. And scarring. OMGosh, I have some white hypopigmented scars that are actually getting normal skin color back! I thought I would be walking around like a polka dotted person for the rest of my younger mid life. Maybe there is New Hope for my skin.> > Glad to hear you are doing well Myrtle. > Aloha......Frito> > > > > ________________________________> From: myrtle_maui myrtle_maui@...> bird mites > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:29:42 AM> Subject: esp botanicals - your skin gets worse before it gets better> > > My skin got considerably worse when I started using the esp botanicals> (soap and balm), and now it has gotten better. Whatever I was doing> before was controlling and suppressing the problem in my skin, but was> not resolving the problem. When I first started using the esp soap, I> felt a lot of crawling on my skin, which I hadn't felt in a while, and> it was pretty bad for about 4 weeks. In the past couple of days, the> crawling has stopped, regardless of how much sugar and junk food I eat> (by the way I've gained about 15 pounds - burp). To be specific, the> crawling stopped after I bathed in a quart of freshly squeezed lime> juice yesterday morning. I turned the damn bugs into ceviche.> > Happy Holidays,> myrtle>

[Guest guest]

Kihun -- Sorry about the mixed message -- I am generally confused in

dealing with this stubborn bug problem.

I believe the esp soap is causing the bugs in my skin to come to the

surface, and that's why I'm feeling some crawling. My skin was

already about 95% clear when I started to use the esp soap & balm, so

I'm not getting a large amount of crawling, but it's noticeable and

somewhat gross. I've been doing the soap masque, and leaving it on

for 12-24 hours, depending on how much time and energy I have to rinse

it off and start over. Lately, the soap has been starting to irritate

my skin, so I'm using the balm more often. I find the balm very

soothing to my skin. I am not very regimented about my soap and balm

schedule because I am oftentimes busy with work and other things.

In addition to using the soap and balm, I've taken a few of those

baths with 1 cup epsom salt, 1/4 cup borax, and 1/4 cup baking soda.

The baths make my skin itch quite a bit, and I hope it's a sign that

stuff is coming to the surface of the skin and irritating it. I also

bathe in apple cider vinegar (ACV) sometimes, which is refreshing. I

put about 2 quarts (that's half a gallon) of ACV in the bath water and

soak in it for 20-25 minutes.

On Thanksgiving Day, I had some extra time, so I squeezed about 25

limes which yielded 2 quarts of juice, and I put that in the bath

along with some of the rinds, so I would get lime oil in the bath (I

got this idea from dammit girl or frito who were writing about lemon

juice/lemonade). Of all the things I've done, this lime juice bath

was the bomb! My skin is still feeling pretty clear, although not

100% clear. When I was soaking in the lime juice bath, my skin itched

like HELL. I had a rough nylon wash rag, and kept rubbing my skin

until it stopped itching, which took about 25 minutes.

By the way, I wash my hair before I take my baths, and then keep my

head under water so my scalp gets the benefit of the bath as well. If

I have time to take a bath in the morning, I will rub the esp soap

into my scalp the night before, and sleep with a shower cap on, then

wash out the soap before taking my bath.

I think I've been using the esp products for 6-7 weeks now, but it

took me a couple of weeks to develop a routine. I would say that it

was a combination of the esp products, the soap in particular, and the

lime juice bath that caused the recent improvement in my skin.

I may try experimenting with putting lime juice, or diluted lime

juice, directly on my skin after a shower, rather than bathing in it.

I had the luxury of bathing in it because my mom has a lime tree that

produces several ripe limes every day and I always have plenty of

limes on hand.

myrtle

> >

> > My skin got considerably worse when I started using the esp

> botanicals

> > (soap and balm), and now it has gotten better. Whatever I was

> doing

> > before was controlling and suppressing the problem in my skin, but

> was

> > not resolving the problem. When I first started using the esp

> soap, I

> > felt a lot of crawling on my skin, which I hadn't felt in a while,

> and

> > it was pretty bad for about 4 weeks. In the past couple of days,

> the

> > crawling has stopped, regardless of how much sugar and junk food I

> eat

> > (by the way I've gained about 15 pounds - burp). To be specific,

> the

> > crawling stopped after I bathed in a quart of freshly squeezed lime

> > juice yesterday morning. I turned the damn bugs into ceviche.

> >

> > Happy Holidays,

> > myrtle

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Myrtle, what a great idea about the lime juice. I'm thinkingthe limes could be put whole into a blender with lemons and orangestoo, and blended to a thick, juicy pulp, tied into cheese cloth or containedby tea strainers and added to the bath. The seeds and rinds would add a stronger element, and all the effort of juicing could be replaced by pushing the blender button.I am definitely going to try this.Thank you, Myrtle!Willow > > >> > > My skin got considerably worse when I started using the esp > > botanicals> > > (soap and balm), and now it has gotten better. Whatever I was > > doing> > > before was controlling and suppressing the problem in my skin, but > > was> > > not resolving the problem. When I first started using the esp > > soap, I> > > felt a lot of crawling on my skin, which I hadn't felt in a while, > > and> > > it was pretty bad for about 4 weeks. In the past couple of days, > > the> > > crawling has stopped, regardless of how much sugar and junk food I > > eat> > > (by the way I've gained about 15 pounds - burp). To be specific, > > the> > > crawling stopped after I bathed in a quart of freshly squeezed lime> > > juice yesterday morning. I turned the damn bugs into ceviche.> > > > > > Happy Holidays,> > > myrtle> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

I think you should at least buy the soap, and hopefully Trish will

throw in a sample of the balm for you. Maybe if you explain your

circumstances, she'll do that for you. I think the soap is helping

pull crap out of my skin.

myrtle

>

> ok...so are the esp products that good? I keep reading all the good

> stuff about it but I dont have any money to 'spare'. I might be able to

> cut a few corners and order some but its hard buying groceries for 4

> children, especially on one income...so, it has to be the

> bomb-diggidy...what ya think?

[Guest guest]

YOU GO GIRL! GET RID OF THOSE BUGS!!!

>

> Hi, Myrtle, what a great idea about the lime juice. I'm thinking

> the limes could be put whole into a blender with lemons and oranges

> too, and blended to a thick, juicy pulp, tied into cheese cloth or

> contained

> by tea strainers and added to the bath. The seeds and rinds would add

> a stronger element, and all the effort of juicing could be replaced by

> pushing the blender button.

>

>

> I am definitely going to try this.

>

>

> Thank you, Myrtle!

>

> Willow []

[Guest guest]

......tee hee.... Onward and upward --- climbing the lime-ladder to health and recovery!> >> > Hi, Myrtle, what a great idea about the lime juice. I'm thinking> > the limes could be put whole into a blender with lemons and oranges> > too, and blended to a thick, juicy pulp, tied into cheese cloth or> > contained> > by tea strainers and added to the bath. The seeds and rinds would add> > a stronger element, and all the effort of juicing could be replaced by> > pushing the blender button.> > > > > > I am definitely going to try this.> > > > > > Thank you, Myrtle!> > > > Willow []>

[Guest guest]

There is also lime essential oil to try.

b

> > >

> > > Hi, Myrtle, what a great idea about the lime juice. I'm

thinking

> > > the limes could be put whole into a blender with lemons and

oranges

> > > too, and blended to a thick, juicy pulp, tied into cheese cloth

or

> > > contained

> > > by tea strainers and added to the bath. The seeds and rinds

would

> add

> > > a stronger element, and all the effort of juicing could be

> replaced by

> > > pushing the blender button.

> > >

> > >

> > > I am definitely going to try this.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank you, Myrtle!

> > >

> > > Willow []

> >

>

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU, MA'AM!

> >

> > Me too !!!!! <hiccup>  And the left overs we are  still working

on...

> >

> > The skin.  Whatever is in the skin will come up as the skin cells

slough and turnover.  Healing will occur from the inside out.  The

last part of the skin to look good is the part everyone can see.  And

scarring.  OMGosh, I have some white hypopigmented scars that are

actually getting normal skin color back!  I thought I would be

walking around like a polka dotted person for the rest of my younger

mid life.  Maybe there is New Hope for my skin.

> >

> > Glad to hear you are doing well Myrtle.

> > Aloha......Frito

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: myrtle_maui myrtle_maui@ ...

> > bird mites

> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:29:42 AM

> > Subject: esp botanicals - your skin gets worse

before it gets better

> >

> >

> > My skin got considerably worse when I started using the esp

botanicals

> > (soap and balm), and now it has gotten better. Whatever I was

doing

> > before was controlling and suppressing the problem in my skin,

but was

> > not resolving the problem. When I first started using the esp

soap, I

> > felt a lot of crawling on my skin, which I hadn't felt in a

while, and

> > it was pretty bad for about 4 weeks. In the past couple of days,

the

> > crawling has stopped, regardless of how much sugar and junk food

I eat

> > (by the way I've gained about 15 pounds - burp). To be specific,

the

> > crawling stopped after I bathed in a quart of freshly squeezed

lime

> > juice yesterday morning. I turned the damn bugs into ceviche.

> >

> > Happy Holidays,

> > myrtle

> >

>

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU, TOO, TRLY!

> >

> > Me too !!!!! <hiccup> And the left overs we are still working

> on...

> >

> > The skin. Whatever is in the skin will come up as the skin cells

> slough and turnover. Healing will occur from the inside out. The

last

> part of the skin to look good is the part everyone can see. And

> scarring. OMGosh, I have some white hypopigmented scars that are

> actually getting normal skin color back! I thought I would be

walking

> around like a polka dotted person for the rest of my younger mid

life.

> Maybe there is New Hope for my skin.

> >

> > Glad to hear you are doing well Myrtle.

> > Aloha......Frito

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >________________________________

> > From: myrtle_maui myrtle_maui@

> > bird mites

> > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:29:42 AM

> > Subject: esp botanicals - your skin gets worse

before

> it gets better

> >

> >

> > My skin got considerably worse when I started using the esp

botanicals

> > (soap and balm), and now it has gotten better. Whatever I was

doing

> > before was controlling and suppressing the problem in my skin,

but was

> > not resolving the problem. When I first started using the esp

soap, I

> > felt a lot of crawling on my skin, which I hadn't felt in a

while, and

> > it was pretty bad for about 4 weeks. In the past couple of days,

the

> > crawling has stopped, regardless of how much sugar and junk food

I eat

> > (by the way I've gained about 15 pounds - burp). To be specific,

the

> > crawling stopped after I bathed in a quart of freshly squeezed

lime

> > juice yesterday morning. I turned the damn bugs into ceviche.

> >

> > Happy Holidays,

> > myrtle

> >

>

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU, MS. MYRTLE...i HAVE SPENT SOOO MUCH MONEY ON THIS CRUD, AS

WE ALL HAVE. MY HUB DOESNT UNDERSTAND, HE WANTS ME WELL BUT IT HAS

CAUSED SUCH HARDSHIP. WE'VE NEVER ARGUED OVER MONEY, HE MADE IT I

PAID THE BILLS, NORMAL STUFF. BUT SINCE ALL THIS, I CATCH HIM

GIVING ME THE SLY CAUTIOUS EYE WHILE I'M ON THE CLEANING

AISLE...LOL. HE DOESNT KNOW WHERE IT ALL GOES. I CANT REMEMBER THE

LAST TIME I ACTUALLY 'GROCERY' SHOPPED. DONT GET ME WRONG, I FEED MY

CHILDREN BUT SINCE ALL THIS STARTED I'M DOWN TO A WEIGHT I SWORE I'D

NEVER BE AGAIN...SLAP ANOREXIC! BUT WE SHALL WIN...SO i AM GONNA

ORDER THE SOAP, AT LEAST, FROM HER AND GET THAT BALL ROLLING...HAVE

TO DO IT FOR MY KIDDOS. THEY DESERVE SO MUCH MORE THAN THIS.

MAKES NO SENSE STEADY FIGHTING MY ENVIRONMENT BUT OUR SKIN IS

REINFESTING IT... THANK YOU AGAIN. TAKE CARE, CHASITY

> >

> > ok...so are the esp products that good? I keep reading all the

good

> > stuff about it but I dont have any money to 'spare'. I might be

able to

> > cut a few corners and order some but its hard buying groceries

for 4

> > children, especially on one income...so, it has to be the

> > bomb-diggidy...what ya think?

>

[Guest guest]

That's good Chasity -- I think the soap will help you. Order a couple

of bars, because you'll go through the first one quickly. My skin

feels different now (not as cobwebby and wormy), and I don't seem to

be attracting bugs the way I was before.

This bug problem has been a total financial drain on me, so I can't

imagine what it has been like for you with a whole family to take care of.

With best wishes,

myrtle

> > >

> > > ok...so are the esp products that good? I keep reading all the

> good

> > > stuff about it but I dont have any money to 'spare'. I might be

> able to

> > > cut a few corners and order some but its hard buying groceries

> for 4

> > > children, especially on one income...so, it has to be the

> > > bomb-diggidy...what ya think?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You are very welcome dear.You may want to start with the soap and the balm. It will save you some money... Then you can add on later as funds allow...Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "dammitgrl2001" Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:04:59 -0000<bird mites >Subject: Re: esp botanicals - your skin gets worse before it gets better THANK YOU, TOO, TRLY! > > > > Me too !!!!! <hiccup> And the left overs we are still working > on... > > > > The skin. Whatever is in the skin will come up as the skin cells > slough and turnover. Healing will occur from the inside out. The last > part of the skin to look good is the part everyone can see. And > scarring. OMGosh, I have some white hypopigmented scars that are > actually getting normal skin color back! I thought I would be walking > around like a polka dotted person for the rest of my younger mid life. > Maybe there is New Hope for my skin. > > > > Glad to hear you are doing well Myrtle. > > Aloha......Frito > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: myrtle_maui myrtle_maui@ > > bird mites > > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:29:42 AM > > Subject: esp botanicals - your skin gets worse before > it gets better > > > > > > My skin got considerably worse when I started using the esp botanicals > > (soap and balm), and now it has gotten better. Whatever I was doing > > before was controlling and suppressing the problem in my skin, but was > > not resolving the problem. When I first started using the esp soap, I > > felt a lot of crawling on my skin, which I hadn't felt in a while, and > > it was pretty bad for about 4 weeks. In the past couple of days, the > > crawling has stopped, regardless of how much sugar and junk food I eat > > (by the way I've gained about 15 pounds - burp). To be specific, the > > crawling stopped after I bathed in a quart of freshly squeezed lime > > juice yesterday morning. I turned the damn bugs into ceviche. > > > > Happy Holidays, > > myrtle > > >

[Guest guest]

Chasity

I really believe in the esp line...

I also have had experience with Trishas generosity. She has always

been very kind to me, because, like you, I have a family that all use

the products....

I cant ever repay Trisha, she is a kind, good, person....who has

returned, far above and beyond, the money that I have spent on the

products.

z

[Guest guest]

thank you, z...i hear a lot of good things about her! i'm gonna order some very soon.>> Chasity> I really believe in the esp line...> I also have had experience with Trishas generosity. She has always > been very kind to me, because, like you, I have a family that all use > the products....> I cant ever repay Trisha, she is a kind, good, person....who has > returned, far above and beyond, the money that I have spent on the > products.> z>

[Guest guest]

LUV Trish, heart of pure gold

>

> Chasity

> I really believe in the esp line...

> I also have had experience with Trishas generosity. She has always

> been very kind to me, because, like you, I have a family that all use

> the products....

> I cant ever repay Trisha, she is a kind, good, person....who has

> returned, far above and beyond, the money that I have spent on the

> products.

> z

>

[Guest guest]

I agree the ESp products are really good. I was doing really well, but

i have recently had some setbacks. The first thing was that my husband

decided to move back in... with all of his stuff. He has made some very

positive changes and has actually been a big help to me. He has gone to

the VA and is looking into getting counseling and other help that he

needs.

Anyhow, we rearranged the apartment. Switched the bedroom and the

living room. I thought this would be a great opportunity to clean in

some places that i normally cant get to. Well, the mites swarmed me

from the mattress, and i have been buggy ever since.

I have two theorys about it. Before i never got bitten in bed so i

didnt think the mattress was infested. It could have been that the

mattress wound up with the underside up, and there were mites hiding

between the mattress and the boxsprings.--- Or that the Quad Zapper

from Overmans Healthy Choices was unplugged. It has been broadcasting a

frequency(supposedly kills mites) this whole time, and i never thought

that it made much of a difference. Now im thinking that maybe the

frequency drove them into the recesses of the mattress, and when it was

unplugged, they took the first opportunity to swarm me. Im not sure

which one it was, i plugged the zapper back in asap. Now everytime i

get in bed, i feel the stings. I have noticed decreased activity

however, but i also stepped up the ESP. I would like to maybe

experiment a little and see if it really does make a difference, but i

am scared to unplug it again. I want to get rid of the bed asap, but i

would need to buy a nice air mattress to replace it. Im thinking of

asking for one for Christmas...i dont know, i was doing so good.

We visited some of my husbands family, it was a small house with about

15 people, all wanting to hold the baby, and i saw every one of them

scratching. As my anxiety got worse, so did my symptoms. It was awful.

I hope to God that they will be ok.

I do also agree about the ESP making it worse before it makes it

better. I had days of increased symptoms, followed by decreased

symptoms. Sorry for the long post...what do you guys think??

Love and Luck

Holly

>

> Chasity

> I really believe in the esp line...

> I also have had experience with Trishas generosity. She has always

> been very kind to me, because, like you, I have a family that all use

> the products....

> I cant ever repay Trisha, she is a kind, good, person....who has

> returned, far above and beyond, the money that I have spent on the

> products.

> z

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Hi Holly,Several folks here have had luck wrapping their mattresses and boxsprings with a heavy painters plastic and duct taping all of the seams so that the mites can't exit ot enter. Glad to see you. You were thought of quite often...TrlySent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "Holly" Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:50:03 -0000<bird mites >Subject: Re: esp botanicals - your skin gets worse before it gets better I agree the ESp products are really good. I was doing really well, but i have recently had some setbacks. The first thing was that my husband decided to move back in... with all of his stuff. He has made some very positive changes and has actually been a big help to me. He has gone to the VA and is looking into getting counseling and other help that he needs. Anyhow, we rearranged the apartment. Switched the bedroom and the living room. I thought this would be a great opportunity to clean in some places that i normally cant get to. Well, the mites swarmed me from the mattress, and i have been buggy ever since. I have two theorys about it. Before i never got bitten in bed so i didnt think the mattress was infested. It could have been that the mattress wound up with the underside up, and there were mites hiding between the mattress and the boxsprings.--- Or that the Quad Zapper from Overmans Healthy Choices was unplugged. It has been broadcasting a frequency(supposedly kills mites) this whole time, and i never thought that it made much of a difference. Now im thinking that maybe the frequency drove them into the recesses of the mattress, and when it was unplugged, they took the first opportunity to swarm me. Im not sure which one it was, i plugged the zapper back in asap. Now everytime i get in bed, i feel the stings. I have noticed decreased activity however, but i also stepped up the ESP. I would like to maybe experiment a little and see if it really does make a difference, but i am scared to unplug it again. I want to get rid of the bed asap, but i would need to buy a nice air mattress to replace it. Im thinking of asking for one for Christmas...i dont know, i was doing so good. We visited some of my husbands family, it was a small house with about 15 people, all wanting to hold the baby, and i saw every one of them scratching. As my anxiety got worse, so did my symptoms. It was awful. I hope to God that they will be ok. I do also agree about the ESP making it worse before it makes it better. I had days of increased symptoms, followed by decreased symptoms. Sorry for the long post...what do you guys think?? Love and Luck Holly > > Chasity > I really believe in the esp line... > I also have had experience with Trishas generosity. She has always > been very kind to me, because, like you, I have a family that all use > the products.... > I cant ever repay Trisha, she is a kind, good, person....who has > returned, far above and beyond, the money that I have spent on the > products. > z >

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Hi Holly, I'm really happy to hear the family side of things is

straightening itself out.

As for the matress, well, I threw mine away along w/ the bed frame.

Now I sleep on a $10 twin air matress from walmart. It's not the

best kind like Aerobed but I mean, it's only an air matress and the

comfort ceiling is only so high. The $10 one is good enough for

me. I may not have had to throw my matress/bed away but when I took

my 2 week trip back in Oct, I just didn't want to deal with worrying

over " what if " the whole time so I chucked it. Well, prior to that,

I used to sleep with menthol crystals scattered on the top of the

matress, then I'd put a thick comforter over that and sleep on top

of that. Nothing got to me with the crystals. I didn't even have

to wash the comforters everyday. However, it does mess with your

senses, particularly your sense of smell which leads to a loss of

taste... so it works well but there's always the other side.

I've been getting the crawlies/bitings like crazy over the last

week. I can't tell if it's b/c of ESP or b/c I vacuumed up all the

DE. I'm thinking it's a combination of both. I need to puff down

DE again. I'll do that tomorrow probably.

Now I've always been interested in those high frequency pest

repellent gadgets. It's hard to believe that it works but my friend

once used to live in a pretty old house and even during the

countless times I've crashed at his place, I never once saw a roach,

even when the kitchen window was a bit open. He had the high freq

emitter. Does it work? Who knows but if it works for mites or

other buggers, I'd be first in line to get one. I know this is a

touchy subject for many on this forum b/c they have pets so I

couldn't recommend it to everyone.

I've also wondered about those outdoor bug zappers... whether

putting them inside will work. ???

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> > Chasity

> > I really believe in the esp line...

> > I also have had experience with Trishas generosity. She has

always

> > been very kind to me, because, like you, I have a family that

all use

> > the products....

> > I cant ever repay Trisha, she is a kind, good, person....who has

> > returned, far above and beyond, the money that I have spent on

the

> > products.

> > z

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Holly, I'll have a Mitetini, straight up please with an ACV chaser.

I double wrapped my mattress and boxspring in vinyl enclosures from

J.C.Penny's, $12.99 each. I covered the mattress in DE and DE in

between the second layer too. Seems to do the job. I'm not planning

on throwing mine out.

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> > Chasity

> > I really believe in the esp line...

> > I also have had experience with Trishas generosity. She has

always

> > been very kind to me, because, like you, I have a family that all

use

> > the products....

> > I cant ever repay Trisha, she is a kind, good, person....who has

> > returned, far above and beyond, the money that I have spent on

the

> > products.

> > z

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