Re: Using the Trijet fogger for non-Cedarcide

[Guest guest]

, you're saying you are using your Trijet fogger to fog out

Windex? I hadn't thought of that... How's that working for ya? And

wouldn't it stain things blue? My showever curtain has a blue tint

from all the Windex sprayings. I used Cedarcide once over a month

ago but have never done a repeat application. We have not had a

major discussion about Cedarcide in awhile so I wasn't too keen on

ordering more, plus they are SO expensive. The good thing is that

it's not toxic so I feel comfortable fogging and coming back to the

condo. If I fog Windex, I'm worried that I'd come back to an

ammonia fortress (BAD FOR BODY!). If not Windex or Cedarcide, what

else can I use to fog? Shoot, I've spent so much on the fogger, I

might as well use it right?

Anyone else have other ideas for the fogger? And did anyone ever

come up with a make-your-own Cedarcide recipe?

Thanks.

kihun

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> > > > > > > > Thanks all for your input and advice, folks. My

> husband's

> > > > going

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > make an appointment with the doctor soon. But from

> > everything

> > > > > I've

> > > > > > > > read, they're fairly clueless at diagnosing mites.

Are

> > there

> > > > > any

> > > > > > > tests

> > > > > > > > we should suggest they do while he's there? Have any

of

> > you

> > > > been

> > > > > > > > diagnosed by an MD or did you have to figure it out

> > yourself?

> > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > > wondering if there isn't some way to catch one of

these

> > > > things

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > a positive ID on it. It's truly hell not

knowing....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kihun,

It works great for any knock down. When I was really buggy, the

windex knockdown was good for 4/5 days. BUT, windex is not a great

product for your health, especially with all the chemical you have in

your place. I would try Sue's orange goo first, then the ESP

essential oil mix before windex. Give the essential oil mix a little

time because it's not an instant kill. Call Trish at ESP to see if

she reccomends revising the formula that's been on todays messages

than what she gave Dr Kolb. She's working on something a little more

potent. If you do use the windex, wear a respirator- as you shoukd

when you spray anything, open the windows for venting, and leave

afterwards to let it dry and air. I just worry about you using more

chemicals...from what you have said they are starting to affect you.

worry, worry, worry, worrywart me

b

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks all for your input and advice, folks. My

> > husband's

> > > > > going

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > make an appointment with the doctor soon. But from

> > > everything

> > > > > > I've

> > > > > > > > > read, they're fairly clueless at diagnosing mites.

> Are

> > > there

> > > > > > any

> > > > > > > > tests

> > > > > > > > > we should suggest they do while he's there? Have

any

> of

> > > you

> > > > > been

> > > > > > > > > diagnosed by an MD or did you have to figure it out

> > > yourself?

> > > > > > I'm

> > > > > > > > > wondering if there isn't some way to catch one of

> these

> > > > > things

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > > a positive ID on it. It's truly hell not

> knowing....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I lightly fogged my place today.

I discovered I had about 10% cedarcide remaining inside the fogger

drum, so I dumped a gallon of water in it with 5 capful of ECOS

Concentrated Orange Guard.

The problem is that it didn't quite fog but rather what came out was

a very fine mist that settled very quickly. I think water is too

heavy to use as base. I guess it's fine as long as you aim at the

target and make sure the mist hits it. The mist is still way finer

than what you could achieve w/ a bug sprayer or a spray bottle.

Does Windex create a thick fog like cedarcide? Cedarcide label

states that it's 10% cedar oil. I don't know what the other 90%

is. It's certainly not water.

Also, would anyone know what I could use as base rather than water

so that the fogger would create a true thick fog that stays airborne

for a few hours?

Thanks.

kihun

> >

> > , you're saying you are using your Trijet fogger to fog

out

> > Windex? I hadn't thought of that... How's that working for ya?

> And

> > wouldn't it stain things blue? My showever curtain has a blue

tint

> > from all the Windex sprayings. I used Cedarcide once over a

month

> > ago but have never done a repeat application. We have not had a

> > major discussion about Cedarcide in awhile so I wasn't too keen

on

> > ordering more, plus they are SO expensive. The good thing is

that

> > it's not toxic so I feel comfortable fogging and coming back to

the

> > condo. If I fog Windex, I'm worried that I'd come back to an

> > ammonia fortress (BAD FOR BODY!). If not Windex or Cedarcide,

what

> > else can I use to fog? Shoot, I've spent so much on the fogger,

I

> > might as well use it right?

> >

> > Anyone else have other ideas for the fogger? And did anyone

ever

> > come up with a make-your-own Cedarcide recipe?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > kihun

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Windex does not hang in the air or create a fog. It is a knockdown,

meaning that if it hits em directly, it will kill them. Once it dries

it does not offer any residual effect or killing ability.

I spray the water based essential oil mix in my fogger. I hit the

walls and hold it up high to hit the ceiling, where I think mine hang

out. I also do all my furniture and floor and rugs. Anything in the

air will be hit also. I like that I can direct it under the beds,

behind furniture, baseboard heat, etc

how about bubble soap mix, you can have fun while you

spray....kidding of course...well maybe not..!

b

> > >

> > > , you're saying you are using your Trijet fogger to fog

> out

> > > Windex? I hadn't thought of that... How's that working for

ya?

> > And

> > > wouldn't it stain things blue? My showever curtain has a blue

> tint

> > > from all the Windex sprayings. I used Cedarcide once over a

> month

> > > ago but have never done a repeat application. We have not had

a

> > > major discussion about Cedarcide in awhile so I wasn't too keen

> on

> > > ordering more, plus they are SO expensive. The good thing is

> that

> > > it's not toxic so I feel comfortable fogging and coming back to

> the

> > > condo. If I fog Windex, I'm worried that I'd come back to an

> > > ammonia fortress (BAD FOR BODY!). If not Windex or Cedarcide,

> what

> > > else can I use to fog? Shoot, I've spent so much on the

fogger,

> I

> > > might as well use it right?

> > >

> > > Anyone else have other ideas for the fogger? And did anyone

> ever

> > > come up with a make-your-own Cedarcide recipe?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > kihun

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, thanks for the info .

FYI, I emailed Fogmaster about how to create thicker fogs that last:

(I'm using water as base and the humidity in my condo is 20% so no

wonder it settles and dries quickly)

Re: question on Tri-jet foggerþ

From: Fogmaster Customer Service (info@...)

Sent: Mon 11/17/08 2:33 PM

Hello, First, are you trying to do insect control, or to fumigate.

If fumigation, your situation probably involves two factors:

1. Droplet size. Larger droplets are more easily visible, but being

heavier, sink more quickly to the floor. Smaller fog droplets tend

to float and cover more area.

2. Low relative humidity. Water-based fogs rapidly evaporate when

the humidity is less than saturation. For water-based fog droplets

to have a long life, the tendency to evaporation must be reduced.

This can be done by raising the saturation level prior to fogging

your chemical, or by fogging long enough to drive the RH towards

saturation.

An oil-based fog does not have the same tendency to evaporate, so

the droplets last longer. However, your fumigating chemical may or

may not be compatible with fogging oils. Check with the chemical

manufacturer. And, read the chemical label. If you are going for

insect control, it is not necessary to have visible fog droplets.

The active ingredient is still being dispersed and will have an

insecticidal effect. However, chemicals labelled for fogging, such

as pyrethrin or synthetic pyrethroids, do not have much residual, so

repeated applications are required.

Again, read and follow the chemical label.

Latta

Fogmaster Corp

>Hi, I have the Tri-jet fogger that I use for bug control.

>I find that using water as a base does not really create fog that

>stays in the air; rather, it sprays out fine mist that settles

>quickly.

>>Do you know something I can use besides water as a base that will

>stay in the air a lot longer (couple of hours) so it will have a

>true fumigating effect? I can only use the fogger as a directional

>sprayer with water.

>>Any help/info would be greatly appreciated!

> > > >

> > > > , you're saying you are using your Trijet fogger to

fog

> > out

> > > > Windex? I hadn't thought of that... How's that working for

> ya?

> > > And

> > > > wouldn't it stain things blue? My showever curtain has a

blue

> > tint

> > > > from all the Windex sprayings. I used Cedarcide once over a

> > month

> > > > ago but have never done a repeat application. We have not

had

> a

> > > > major discussion about Cedarcide in awhile so I wasn't too

keen

> > on

> > > > ordering more, plus they are SO expensive. The good thing

is

> > that

> > > > it's not toxic so I feel comfortable fogging and coming back

to

> > the

> > > > condo. If I fog Windex, I'm worried that I'd come back to

an

> > > > ammonia fortress (BAD FOR BODY!). If not Windex or

Cedarcide,

> > what

> > > > else can I use to fog? Shoot, I've spent so much on the

> fogger,

> > I

> > > > might as well use it right?

> > > >

> > > > Anyone else have other ideas for the fogger? And did anyone

> > ever

> > > > come up with a make-your-own Cedarcide recipe?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > kihun

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Cedarcide's Best Yet Insect Spray has a small amount of cedar oil in a

base fluid, and the base fluid is what gives it the ability to stay

suspended in the air a long time, and to disperse very finely. That's

why the product is so expensive.

> > >

> > > , you're saying you are using your Trijet fogger to fog

> out

> > > Windex? I hadn't thought of that... How's that working for ya?

> > And

> > > wouldn't it stain things blue? My showever curtain has a blue

> tint

> > > from all the Windex sprayings. I used Cedarcide once over a

> month

> > > ago but have never done a repeat application. We have not had a

> > > major discussion about Cedarcide in awhile so I wasn't too keen

> on

> > > ordering more, plus they are SO expensive. The good thing is

> that

> > > it's not toxic so I feel comfortable fogging and coming back to

> the

> > > condo. If I fog Windex, I'm worried that I'd come back to an

> > > ammonia fortress (BAD FOR BODY!). If not Windex or Cedarcide,

> what

> > > else can I use to fog? Shoot, I've spent so much on the fogger,

> I

> > > might as well use it right?

> > >

> > > Anyone else have other ideas for the fogger? And did anyone

> ever

> > > come up with a make-your-own Cedarcide recipe?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > kihun

> > >

> >

>