ESP Botanicals

[Guest guest]

The shampoo is a plus if your ordering just the soap..$20 and lasts a

while. I like the lotion in a bar just for my hands pretty much. It's a

little hard to apply elsewhere, you need it to melt onto your hands. B

>

> For anyone considering buying the ESP Botanicals products, and are

> short of funds, I do not recommend the New Hope Kit. It includes the

> " lotion in a bar " , which is for problem dry skin. It costs $25, and I

> have no use for it. The most useful item for me is the soap, which is

> now $7.50 a bar (they just raised the price I believe). I am also

> using the balm, which I'm not sure if it's helping or not. The balm

> is $60 a jar. If you're having money problems, just buy the soap for

> now. That's what draws the junk out of your skin.

>

> myrtle

>

[Guest guest]

I used the lotion bar full body twice daily for about 9 months.

It was part of the old directions, which were....the soap for 5 min

lightly rinse, then the balm, then the lotion bar rubbed on top....it

goes on easier this way as your skin is warm and moist from the shower

and the balm. I liked this method as it really felt like a shield, and

the bar seemed to seal the oils onto the skin.

I really dont know why the directions are different now....I have tried

both ways....and I definately like the way I was instructed to do it

when I first began the journey

So yes, murtle, I can see where you are coming from, as the

instructions now dont seem to stress much need for the bar....

Her products are actually cheaper now than when I was first using them,

by about $25 a kit, she could probably make it more affordable if she

didnt included the bar.....perhaps someone that is in contact with

Trisha could ask how necessary she thinks the bar is....that would be

interesting feedback for us all. I personally just use the soap and

the balm now....but for those months, I did feel like the three steps

were equally as necessary as each other.

z

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks, but I am

wondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets worse

before it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us, we have

some deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new areas of

our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience like this?

This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by continuing to

use the ESP that we will make things much worse.

I am looking for something that we can use internally that will help

kill these things off. Any suggestions?

[Guest guest]

I had stopped because money was tight and there were other things I needed to be doing. But I recently received some and will start again. They were very important to me in the beginning of this whole mess and yes, they did help me very much.

From: Mel <iggydoll@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 8:57:49 PMSubject: Re: Re: ESP Botanicals

Frito: What about the opaline oxygen pills? Can this help Save? Are you still taking these? Do they help you?

mel

From: fritolay66 <fritolay66 (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Re: ESP Botanicalsbird mitesDate: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:23 PM

Save,

Trish is a caring soul. Call her and tell her what is happening.

You are probably tired of hearing about that lesion from hell on my forehead, but yes, I did experience it traveling, but what developed from that nasty one wasn't as bad and some went away quickly and others took a little bit more time. That lesion is almost smooth...... .

Also, just a consideration, but due to these things very small size, and the ability of the ESP to draw things to the surface. Perhaps you may have had areas you were unaware of until using it and now they are appearing as they are being drawn out. ????

Bear hugs to you and your wife my friend...... frito

From: Bessie Glavas <bessieglavas>bird mitesSent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 6:08:36 PMSubject: Re: ESP Botanicals

Save -You should call Trish and tell her what's happening. I have not heard about that before, but I sure understand your concern. Are the "old" ones healing?Bessie>> Hi all,> > My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks, but I am> > wondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets worse> > before it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us, we have> > some deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new areas of > > our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience like this?> > This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by

continuing to> > use the ESP that we will make things much worse.> > I am looking for something that we can use internally that will help> > kill these things off. Any suggestions?>

[Guest guest]

I take the oxygen pills,too, though I've been pretty much clear of

problems since maybe February or March. I will probably take them

forever...too scared not to!

Bessie

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks, but

I

> am

> >

> > wondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets

> worse

> >

> > before it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us,

we

> have

> >

> > some deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new areas

of

> >

> > our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience like

> this?

> >

> > This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by continuing

to

> >

> > use the ESP that we will make things much worse.

> >

> > I am looking for something that we can use internally that will

help

> >

> > kill these things off. Any suggestions?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Save

Bessies advice is really good.

I will tell you that I had no lesions of any kind until *AFTER* I began

using the ESP....it freaked me out....I kept getting new eruptions, but

they were NOT slow healing, they healed as a regular sore would.....

This went on for perhaps 6 weeks, and they were all on my stomach so I

was lucky in that it wasnt noticeable.

But if yours are not healing, and you are getting more of them then

that would worry me too.

Two weeks is not long on the ESP, I really would just keep on keeping

on until you reach the end of your first jar of products and see how

you are doing....but I would also definately get in contact with

Trisha, for some reassurance, and to ask her advice on what to do

internally.

Keep us up to date on how you go

z

[Guest guest]

Z - Frito's advice!!! lol Bessie

>

> Save

> Bessies advice is really good.

>

> I will tell you that I had no lesions of any kind until *AFTER* I

began

> using the ESP....it freaked me out....I kept getting new eruptions,

but

> they were NOT slow healing, they healed as a regular sore would.....

> This went on for perhaps 6 weeks, and they were all on my stomach

so I

> was lucky in that it wasnt noticeable.

>

> But if yours are not healing, and you are getting more of them then

> that would worry me too.

>

> Two weeks is not long on the ESP, I really would just keep on

keeping

> on until you reach the end of your first jar of products and see

how

> you are doing....but I would also definately get in contact with

> Trisha, for some reassurance, and to ask her advice on what to do

> internally.

>

> Keep us up to date on how you go

> z

>

[Guest guest]

???? I thought your advice was great. You have some wonderful advice and experience. ?????

From: Bessie Glavas <bessieglavas@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 9:26:49 PMSubject: Re: ESP Botanicals

Z - Frito's advice!!! lol Bessie>> Save> Bessies advice is really good.> > I will tell you that I had no lesions of any kind until *AFTER* I began > using the ESP....it freaked me out....I kept getting new eruptions, but > they were NOT slow healing, they healed as a regular sore would.....> This went on for perhaps 6 weeks, and they were all on my stomach so I > was lucky in that it wasnt noticeable.> > But if yours are not healing, and you are getting more of them then > that would worry me too.> > Two weeks is not long on the ESP, I really would just keep on keeping > on until you reach the end of your first jar

of products and see how > you are doing....but I would also definately get in contact with > Trisha, for some reassurance, and to ask her advice on what to do > internally.> > Keep us up to date on how you go> z>

[Guest guest]

Bessie

Hi girlfriend! Seems like we are on the forum at the same time.....

I was a bit behind with the messages so the only post I noticed was

yours....about calling Trisha....

Now that I have caught up to all the answers to Save, I would have to

agree with you yet again, about how there are just some things that

will be life long commitments....like your Opaline for example.....

hug hug

z

[Guest guest]

Bessie,

As the old one starts to heal, it's like they move out of that " nest "

and relocate to a new spot. What's so frustrating is that before now,

it was just one lesion left, and now it's spreading.

I have read your story Bessie and how sick you were, yet you overcame

this. My wife and I only each have these few sores and no other (as

yet) health problems. I just wish I could find something good to do

internally to kill these things off.

Do you have any advice?? I was kind of hoping someone else that was

using the ESP products would pipe up and say " oh yeah, that happened

to me too " but I guess not.

This is getting depressing, to be so close, yet have it stay out of

reach.

Anybody have advice on things you have done internally that have

helped??

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks, but I

> am

> >

> > wondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets

> worse

> >

> > before it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us, we

> have

> >

> > some deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new areas of

> >

> > our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience like

> this?

> >

> > This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by continuing to

> >

> > use the ESP that we will make things much worse.

> >

> > I am looking for something that we can use internally that will help

> >

> > kill these things off. Any suggestions?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I too had to go with out the ESP for a few weeks. Just got it back in today. One thing that helped during this time is the olive oil with neem, cedar, and oregano oils after bathing.This concoction has done wonders for my skin on top of being supposedly bad for my mites.J.

From: fritolay66 <fritolay66 (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Re: ESP Botanicalsbird mitesDate: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:23 PM

Save,

Trish is a caring soul. Call her and tell her what is happening.

You are probably tired of hearing about that lesion from hell on my forehead, but yes, I did experience it traveling, but what developed from that nasty one wasn't as bad and some went away quickly and others took a little bit more time. That lesion is almost smooth...... .

Also, just a consideration, but due to these things very small size, and the ability of the ESP to draw things to the surface. Perhaps you may have had areas you were unaware of until using it and now they are appearing as they are being drawn out. ????

Bear hugs to you and your wife my friend...... frito

From: Bessie Glavas <bessieglavas>bird mitesSent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 6:08:36 PMSubject: Re: ESP Botanicals

Save -You should call Trish and tell her what's happening. I have not heard about that before, but I sure understand your concern. Are the "old" ones healing?Bessie>> Hi all,> > My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks, but I am> > wondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets worse> > before it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us, we have> > some deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new areas of > > our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience like this?> > This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by

continuing to> > use the ESP that we will make things much worse.> > I am looking for something that we can use internally that will help> > kill these things off. Any suggestions?>

[Guest guest]

Frito, my friend,

I never get tired of anything you have to tell me You are an

inspiration.

Of the two new ones, one is brand new, and the other is a old sore

that had healed and they have taken up new residence. It's strange,

because these things have not appeared anywhere else on her body,

just the chest area, close to the original bite. I on the other hand,

have had bites on chest, back, legs, arms, head, butt, ect. Mine

no longer become these large sores, but the don't always heal up

either. It's like my immune system can take me most of the way there,

but not all the way.

She has had pain from these sores and starting in the afternoon and

nighttime she has " activity " meaning that whats in those wounds starts

moving around. I understand that sensation all to well, as that was

the sensation that drove me to this site and caused me to take the

name " savemyskin4me " . At that time, I was the only one that had this

problem....and God how I wish that was still the case!

I am on the hunt for an internal kill....even if that means taking

things like Fenbendazole long term.

Unless someone else has any ideas?

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks, but I

> am

> >

> > wondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets

> worse

> >

> > before it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us, we

> have

> >

> > some deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new areas of

> >

> > our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience like

> this?

> >

> > This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by continuing to

> >

> > use the ESP that we will make things much worse.

> >

> > I am looking for something that we can use internally that will help

> >

> > kill these things off. Any suggestions?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What benefit do you think they gave you, and how much were you using?

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks, but I

> am

> >

> > wondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets

> worse

> >

> > before it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us, we

> have

> >

> > some deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new areas of

> >

> > our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience like

> this?

> >

> > This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by continuing to

> >

> > use the ESP that we will make things much worse.

> >

> > I am looking for something that we can use internally that will help

> >

> > kill these things off. Any suggestions?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Save,

You and your wife might try one of the herbal parasite formulas. Many

people have gotten relief using herbal parasite formulas, but I

haven't heard of any outright cures with them. I took the " Parasite

Formula " from Maui Herbs http://www.mauiherbs.net/contact.html

It has vindanga, neem, pau d'arco, black walnut, prickly ash,

chapparal, cat's claw, hingwastika, wormwood, clove, juniper berries,

and aloe. I took it last February and it made me feel a lot better

and reduced the crawling. Because it contains chaparral, which is

toxic, you can't take it long term. If you want to buy it from Maui

Herbs, it is $20 per bottle and they can mail it to you. It's not

listed on their website, but they still make it.

Here's a link that Sue posted last month, for Parasitin, which she

said was recommended by Trisha Springstead:

http://www.vaxa.com/693.cfm

A number of people who were formerly on this site used a product

called " paraclear " , which is now called " ReVoxil " . It was developed

by a Dr. of Healthwalk.

http://healthwalk.ws/health-walk-product.aspx?ID=8

blessings,

myrtle

>

> Bessie,

>

> As the old one starts to heal, it's like they move out of that " nest "

> and relocate to a new spot. What's so frustrating is that before now,

> it was just one lesion left, and now it's spreading.

>

> I have read your story Bessie and how sick you were, yet you overcame

> this. My wife and I only each have these few sores and no other (as

> yet) health problems. I just wish I could find something good to do

> internally to kill these things off.

>

> Do you have any advice?? I was kind of hoping someone else that was

> using the ESP products would pipe up and say " oh yeah, that happened

> to me too " but I guess not.

>

> This is getting depressing, to be so close, yet have it stay out of

> reach.

>

> Anybody have advice on things you have done internally that have

> helped??

[Guest guest]

I get the horrible " moving sores " - I look down and have it and a

puddle of blood an inch around on top of it.

Seabuckthorn Oil internally 2/3 dropper (20 drops)/2x day

plus dropped directly on lesion but more of it spread all round and

up and down to keep it from finding a convenient place to relocate.

If I miss a dose I get a new one.

SBT heals my sores completely within a week if I take it regularly as

above.

katiejill

> > >

> > > Hi all,

> > >

> > > My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks,

but I

> > am

> > >

> > > wondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets

> > worse

> > >

> > > before it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us,

we

> > have

> > >

> > > some deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new

areas of

> > >

> > > our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience like

> > this?

> > >

> > > This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by

continuing to

> > >

> > > use the ESP that we will make things much worse.

> > >

> > > I am looking for something that we can use internally that will

help

> > >

> > > kill these things off. Any suggestions?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Where do you get your Seabuckthorn oil? Is it Seabuckthorn seed oil or

Seabuckthorn berry oil?

With your " moving sores " do yours get the hard to remove superglue

like scab covering?

> > > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > >

> > > > My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks,

> but I

> > > am

> > > >

> > > > wondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets

> > > worse

> > > >

> > > > before it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us,

> we

> > > have

> > > >

> > > > some deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new

> areas of

> > > >

> > > > our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience like

> > > this?

> > > >

> > > > This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by

> continuing to

> > > >

> > > > use the ESP that we will make things much worse.

> > > >

> > > > I am looking for something that we can use internally that will

> help

> > > >

> > > > kill these things off. Any suggestions?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Save...oh yeah, that happened to me, too! Just as you're

describing, the old sores would produce new small " satellite " sores

in the area. These would then take on the look of " exit " sores within

a couple of days - with the edges looking like small crystals

standing on end - like the rough underside of a piece of paper you

pierce with a pencil. So a new exit sore a quarter inch across would

become jagged around the edges & then " melt out " to widen to at least

twice the size & become scaled over the top. These healed within a

week to ten days. Ocassionally, a small new one would show

up " downstream " of an existing larger one, as much as 12 " away. This

would be a lone sore, not one of a cluster surrounding the large ones.

My really big knee sores, which had at one point been covered with

crusted yellow scabs 3/4 of an inch thick, produced these small

satellite sores as they healed. Beginning with an outline of 4x5

inches, they've resolved to a dozen 1/4 " sores scattered on clear

skin & are nearly gone after 3 months of New Hope. Keep in mind that

these sores were as deep below the skin as the scabs above them.

Hopefully yours are not so deep & will heal more quickly.

Think it's important to use the New Hope on your entire body, neck &

face, not just the areas with sores. But after doing the total

treatment (soap, balm & lotion jar in a bar) twice daily, keep

rubbing in more balm on & around the active sores throughout the day.

It goes right through the lotion bar without removing the bar's seal.

Just started with the Opaline a week ago & had no trouble working up

to the 9 a day their enclosure advises for serious sores. Have

noticed a few dozen small sores surfacing in the first few days &

they're almost healed already with the New Hope. Suppose these are

from smaller outposts since they're scattered randomly in areas that

haven't been problematic before. Can feel the Opaline penetrating &

energizing. Like that!

I used Herbal Healer Academy's 3-step (detox, antimicrobials,

rebuild) system internally & that's been wonderful for me, starting

with the 4-Herb generic Essiac tea. The rebuild step included two

parasite cleanse formulas. Still drinking the tea - plan to keep that

up forever - and continuing step 2's colon enhancer capsules, which

are gentle & effective.

Believe your experience with New Hope is not unusual as these things

are being flushed out. Sounds like you've sent them packing! Call

Trisha at 352-544-8111 to check in with her.

Hoping this is their last gasp! Best wishes, Sue

Hi all,

My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks, but I

am wondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets

worse before it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us,

we have some deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new

areas of our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience

like this?

This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by continuing to

use the ESP that we will make things much worse.

I am looking for something that we can use internally that will help

kill these things off. Any suggestions?

[Guest guest]

Ahhh yes... the " Biofilm " !

Save, are you and your wife using the ESP balm after using the soap? If

not, you may want to consider purchasing a jar. Or if money is tight,

make your own concotion using various oils.

The balm softens the biofilm which makes it easier to remove then the

soap will " draw out " what ever is underneath/inside of the sore. The

balm also prevents this " bug " from creating a new biofilm.

It's a long repetetive process but it does work.

As Z stated, 2 weeks really isn't long enough to see any results and

with contined use, things do get worse before they get better. You'll

have new lumps and bumps appear... But that's a good sign!

Whatever you do... don't stop using the ESP...

Hugs to you and the Mrs.,

Trly

>

> Where do you get your Seabuckthorn oil? Is it Seabuckthorn seed oil or

> Seabuckthorn berry oil?

>

> With your " moving sores " do yours get the hard to remove superglue

> like scab covering?

>

[Guest guest]

hi Save & wife, I had the deep lesions...and this is what i believed helped me...antiparasitic from the health food store. It is a product of hers(the lady that owns it)...here are the ingredients: BLACK WALNUT OUTER HULL, WORMWOOD FLOWER AND LEAF, CLOVE FLOWER, CHINESE WORMWOOD LEAF.(these are the ingredients from the SECOND bottle I bought there, the first one only had black walnut hull, wormwood, and one more thing i cannot remember) I took 3 a day for at least a month, then one a day since. Take it one hour before a meal so it gets in ur system without interference. This along with taking a bath(crammed in my kid's little tub,lol) with epsom salt, and when they kinda softened up, I squeezed them cause they seemed to have a fluid filled kinda cyst in the middle with a tough skin over it...when I could get that fluid to start coming out I would spray peroxide on it, over and over for each one. That got rid of them...now it's just the marks they left i'm putting scar cream on to fade. But I found that I had to get that fluid out Or it would not heal. I believe the antiparasitic brought these deep buried ones to closer to the surface and I just had to help coerce them out. No new ones, either. her website is http://www.wholehealthconnection.com/--- In bird mites , "savemyskin4me" <savemyskin4me@...> wrote:>> Hi all,> > My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks, but I am> > wondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets worse> > before it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us, we have> > some deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new areas of > > our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience like this?> > This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by continuing to> > use the ESP that we will make things much worse.> > I am looking for something that we can use internally that will help> > kill these things off. Any suggestions?>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Trish. The world needs more people like you!!! Frito

----- Forwarded Message ----From: Tr Rummel <espbotanicals@...>fritolay66 <fritolay66@...>Cc: savemyskin4me@...Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 4:41:07 PMSubject: Re: ESP Botanicals

Dear fritolay, you may send this out to the website....it will answer some of peoples questions in regard to me and what I am trying to accomplish here.

Thanks for the heads up on your friends problems concerning new Ulcers coming to their skin surface. I sent them an email to call me so I could explain. If people don't draw this out from under the skin, and internally it will burrow deeper. Some people who have had this for years develop a biofilm, the biofilm has to be pierced, and some will see new openings. If this stays in the body, it will decay in the body and attract funguses, molds and bacterias ect. people think that when their sores heal over that this is good, but if nothing was drawn out of those sores it is allowing this disease to stay in the skin and then begin to multiply under the skin.

The New Hope is 19 botanicals, it is with these botanicals combined that they synergistically go deep into the skin and draw out what doesn't belong, then when the sores close you have removed the underlying toxins.

With Psoriasis, many people didn't think it worked because they broke out more at first, the patent was drawing out the dormant diseased cells after realizing that with continued use and multiple breakouts they finally got better.

Same with Acne, we have watched with time lapse photography red dots, then whiteheads appear, skin get redder and white pus come to the surface within 3 hours of keeping the soap on.

Some people think that they do not need the balm, nothing could be further from the truth....you have to replenish the skin with the oils in the balm. If you don't then the skin will lose all melanin and get horribly dry. If you don't like the lotion bar then you're not understanding the concept. It is like a bandaid to protect the skin, to carry with you when you get dry or may be used directly over the ulcerations.

Another thing, I want to address is that I am hearing people say this stuff is too expensive, If people think this is expensive they need to look at the cost of a pound of German Chamomile Organic, Rosewood Organic, Beeswax Organic, Himalyan Cedarwood Organic, Evening Primrose Organic by the 5 lb drum. Organic Shea, Jojoba, Mango butters. The cost of the Jars, labeling, packaging for a product that lasts longer than a tube of cream based in water (which we do not use) and mineral oils (petroleum based) that do not work.

These are just a few of the Oils I use to formulate. It is also a United States Patent and the cost for a patent attorney, filing fees, an Organic Chemical Patents Attorney (which took us 8 months to write in a language so that no one could infringe on it.) I am not trying to say poor, poor me, but the reality is the ingredients are not cheap, I can't go any lower and am doing the best I can here to make decent product and can not cut any corners.

I want people to know, I am not making a killing here but I have bills to pay and my suppliers charge shipping from England, Germany, Africa and Indonesia, and this is how I make my living, please believe me after paying shipping, buying all my ingredients (the best on the market) thousands of dollars in Essential oils, supplies, organic packaging, I am lucky if I can make my car payment, insurance, and mortgage on a Building that I used to have an office in, that I can not sell and had to close up because it was costing thousands per month to keep it open.

I do phone consultations and never, ever charge a dime, I try to set patients up with Doctors who will see them and not rip them off, and those are few and far between. If I had the funds, I would give it away, but I don't. I try to keep the shipping amounts down, but I can not formulate, take phone calls, do all the jaring, pouring, labeling and then do all the shipping by myself. I have a couple people who help me when they can, but I can barely afford to pay them, so we barter time for products.

My mark up is not even 100%, Go to the Dermatologist and see what you would pay to be called delusional. I am not a

snake oil salesman, I am a degreed Medical Professional, who happened on a horrible disease, any one who has spoken to me knows its not about getting rich here, it's about being able to help others and make the patent even better, which is what I am working on now by adding some menthols and additional Organic Essential Oils to the existing patent base. I am not complacent with just the New Hope, I am up nights labeling jars, formulating and thinking of ways to make things better for all sufferers. I have researched these horrible diseases day and night for 3 years and am now in the process of making a New Hope 2, that will be better and provide more relief from this disease.

I care about every single one of any of you suffering from this disease, that is propogating, due to mans misuse of God, genetic engineering, dangerous pesticides. I fight with Doctors who rip people off and try to educate anyone who I know who is in the medical field, who will listen. Slowly but surely I am getting some attention from some Doctors, who are near me, who will not rip people off. I have worked for years to get my Congresswoman to listen and she is now listening.

I am just one person, who does not have this, who is working as hard as I can to get people to acknowledge your suffering. I hope you all realize, I am not trying to be defensive here and if I sound like I am that is not my intent. I am just trying to make you understand, that not a day goes by, that I don't think of what I can do to make people with this epidemic better. It is the next big one.

I can not stress enough the internals: clean water with lemon for hydration, www.vaxa.com PH Buffers, Parasitin, Paracleanse 1 and 2, 1 month on and 15 days off for 4 consecutive rounds. Check your urine for alkalinity, Lugols Solution 1 drop twice a day with a shot of vinegar, Unprocessed foods, NO Genetically modified foods Corn, Soy, Canola or Cottonseeds. www.theseedsofdeception.com listen to Jeffery on this subject. Lots of spices, curry, Oregano, Cayenne Pepper, Garlic. If you want to do a Parasite cleans there is a cheap way to do this, Google the Lemonade Fast or the Master Cleanse.

My website tells you how to clean your environment, NO BLEACH or Ammonia, no surfactants in your home, no proypl alchohols or nothing with the word propyl in it should be in your home, no chemical pesticides. There are alternatives to pesticides. If you go to the website and research, you will see that there is much information that I have painstakingly worked on through listening, researching, speaking to others in regard to what helped them.

If people think there is a magic bullet to heal this, I am sorry there is not, and it is not an overnight treatment. I have fought with MDs who have charged thousands and thousands of dollars who are throwing every antibiotic, every steroid and poison they can think of at people with this illness and charging cash money. I have traveled everywhere within and out of the US at my own expense to help find someone who has a clue as to what this is. I have my own ideas, but science is not willing to fund, at this point any studies. All I know, is that I know this is real, my only hope is that someday all the players in this mess will put the pieces together.

Until that day, all I have is my research, my patent and recommendations and hope that some day someone even if it's not me....will find a Cure. I have seen the ravages of families, children, elderly in all walks of life with this, I am doing the best I can to help relieve suffering, but it costs money and I am trying to keep the prices as low as possible I have no outside funding. If people do not want the products, I am not pushing them on anyone. I firmly have stated that it takes a comittment, it is a viable treatment option and I am doing the best I know how to do, trying to "first do no harm".

Sincerely and with Respect,

Trisha

From: fritolay66 <fritolay66@...>trishasping50@...; Tr Rummel <espbotanicals@...>Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 6:57:17 PMSubject: Fw: ESP Botanicals

This is one of my friends and I thought he and his wife would better benefit in talking to you.

----- Forwarded Message ----From: savemyskin4me <savemyskin4me@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 5:28:05 PMSubject: ESP Botanicals

Hi all,My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks, but I amwondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets worsebefore it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us, we havesome deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new areas of our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience like this?This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by continuing touse the ESP that we will make things much worse.I am looking for something that we can use internally that will helpkill these things off. Any suggestions?

[Guest guest]

I posted Trish's letter at critterfiles under

Files

> PRODUCTS, PROTOCOLS, RECIPES AND TREATMENTS

> > YOU AND YOUR BODY

> > > SKIN

It will go out to new members on joining.

katiejill

> From: Tr <espbotanicals@...>

> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 4:41:07 PM

> Subject: Re: ESP Botanicals

> Dear fritolay,  you may send this out to the website....it will

answer some of peoples questions in regard to me and what I am trying

to accomplish here....If people do not want the products, I am not

pushing them on anyone.  I firmly have stated that it takes a

comittment, it is a viable treatment option and I am doing the best I

know how to do, trying to " first do no harm " .

> Sincerely and with Respect,

> Trisha       

>

[Guest guest]

Wow, I just read this and have to say Thank You to Frito for

contacting Trish, what a nice thing to do!

I will contact Trish on Monday and see if I can get some specific

questions answered.

I think I will print Trish's letter for my wife, it should help with

some of her fears.

It's wonderful to have someone like Trish out there trying to fight

for us, we can use all the help we can get!

>

> Thank you Trish. The world needs more people like you!!! Frito

>

>

>

> ----- Forwarded Message ----

> From: Tr Rummel <espbotanicals@...>

> fritolay66 <fritolay66@...>

> Cc: savemyskin4me@...

> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 4:41:07 PM

> Subject: Re: ESP Botanicals

>

>

> Dear fritolay, you may send this out to the website....it will

answer some of peoples questions in regard to me and what I am trying

to accomplish here.

> Thanks for the heads up on your friends problems concerning new

Ulcers coming to their skin surface. I sent them an email to call me

so I could explain. If people don't draw this out from under the

skin, and internally it will burrow deeper. Some people who have had

this for years develop a biofilm, the biofilm has to be pierced, and

some will see new openings. If this stays in the body, it will decay

in the body and attract funguses, molds and bacterias ect. people

think that when their sores heal over that this is good, but if

nothing was drawn out of those sores it is allowing this disease to

stay in the skin and then begin to multiply under the skin.

> The New Hope is 19 botanicals, it is with these botanicals combined

that they synergistically go deep into the skin and draw out what

doesn't belong, then when the sores close you have removed the

underlying toxins.

> With Psoriasis, many people didn't think it worked because they

broke out more at first, the patent was drawing out the dormant

diseased cells after realizing that with continued use and multiple

breakouts they finally got better.

> Same with Acne, we have watched with time lapse photography red

dots, then whiteheads appear, skin get redder and white pus come to

the surface within 3 hours of keeping the soap on.

> Some people think that they do not need the balm, nothing could be

further from the truth....you have to replenish the skin with the oils

in the balm. If you don't then the skin will lose all melanin and get

horribly dry. If you don't like the lotion bar then you're not

understanding the concept. It is like a bandaid to protect the skin,

to carry with you when you get dry or may be used directly over the

ulcerations.

> Another thing, I want to address is that I am hearing people say

this stuff is too expensive, If people think this is expensive they

need to look at the cost of a pound of German Chamomile Organic,

Rosewood Organic, Beeswax Organic, Himalyan Cedarwood Organic,

Evening Primrose Organic by the 5 lb drum. Organic Shea, Jojoba,

Mango butters. The cost of the Jars, labeling, packaging for a

product that lasts longer than a tube of cream based in water (which

we do not use) and mineral oils (petroleum based) that do not work.

> These are just a few of the Oils I use to formulate. It is also a

United States Patent and the cost for a patent attorney, filing fees,

an Organic Chemical Patents Attorney (which took us 8 months to write

in a language so that no one could infringe on it.) I am not trying to

say poor, poor me, but the reality is the ingredients are not cheap,

I can't go any lower and am doing the best I can here to make decent

product and can not cut any corners.

> I want people to know, I am not making a killing here but I have

bills to pay and my suppliers charge shipping from England, Germany,

Africa and Indonesia, and this is how I make my living, please

believe me after paying shipping, buying all my ingredients (the best

on the market) thousands of dollars in Essential oils, supplies,

organic packaging, I am lucky if I can make my car payment,

insurance, and mortgage on a Building that I used to have an office

in, that I can not sell and had to close up because it was costing

thousands per month to keep it open.

> I do phone consultations and never, ever charge a dime, I try to

set patients up with Doctors who will see them and not rip them

off, and those are few and far between. If I had the funds, I would

give it away, but I don't. I try to keep the shipping amounts

down, but I can not formulate, take phone calls, do all the jaring,

pouring, labeling and then do all the shipping by myself. I have a

couple people who help me when they can, but I can barely afford to

pay them, so we barter time for products.

> My mark up is not even 100%, Go to the Dermatologist and see what

you would pay to be called delusional. I am not a

> snake oil salesman, I am a degreed Medical Professional, who

happened on a horrible disease, any one who has spoken to me knows its

not about getting rich here, it's about being able to help others and

make the patent even better, which is what I am working on now by

adding some menthols and additional Organic Essential Oils to the

existing patent base. I am not complacent with just the New Hope, I

am up nights labeling jars, formulating and thinking of ways to make

things better for all sufferers. I have researched these horrible

diseases day and night for 3 years and am now in the process of making

a New Hope 2, that will be better and provide more relief from this

disease.

> I care about every single one of any of you suffering from this

disease, that is propogating, due to mans misuse of God, genetic

engineering, dangerous pesticides. I fight with Doctors who rip

people off and try to educate anyone who I know who is in the medical

field, who will listen. Slowly but surely I am getting some attention

from some Doctors, who are near me, who will not rip people off. I

have worked for years to get my Congresswoman to listen and she is now

listening.

> I am just one person, who does not have this, who is working as

hard as I can to get people to acknowledge your suffering. I hope you

all realize, I am not trying to be defensive here and if I sound like

I am that is not my intent. I am just trying to make you understand,

that not a day goes by, that I don't think of what I can do to make

people with this epidemic better. It is the next big one.

> I can not stress enough the internals: clean water with lemon for

hydration, www.vaxa.com PH Buffers, Parasitin, Paracleanse 1 and 2, 1

month on and 15 days off for 4 consecutive rounds. Check your urine

for alkalinity, Lugols Solution 1 drop twice a day with a shot of

vinegar, Unprocessed foods, NO Genetically modified foods Corn, Soy,

Canola or Cottonseeds. www.theseedsofdeception.com listen to Jeffery

on this subject. Lots of spices, curry, Oregano, Cayenne

Pepper, Garlic. If you want to do a Parasite cleans there is a cheap

way to do this, Google the Lemonade Fast or the Master Cleanse.

> My website tells you how to clean your environment, NO BLEACH or

Ammonia, no surfactants in your home, no proypl alchohols or nothing

with the word propyl in it should be in your home, no chemical

pesticides. There are alternatives to pesticides. If you go to the

website and research, you will see that there is much information that

I have painstakingly worked on through listening, researching,

speaking to others in regard to what helped them.

> If people think there is a magic bullet to heal this, I am sorry

there is not, and it is not an overnight treatment. I have fought

with MDs who have charged thousands and thousands of dollars who are

throwing every antibiotic, every steroid and poison they can think of

at people with this illness and charging cash money. I have traveled

everywhere within and out of the US at my own expense to help find

someone who has a clue as to what this is. I have my own ideas, but

science is not willing to fund, at this point any studies. All I know,

is that I know this is real, my only hope is that someday

all the players in this mess will put the pieces together.

> Until that day, all I have is my research, my patent and

recommendations and hope that some day someone even if it's not

me....will find a Cure. I have seen the ravages of families,

children, elderly in all walks of life with this, I am doing the best

I can to help relieve suffering, but it costs money and I am trying to

keep the prices as low as possible I have no outside funding. If

people do not want the products, I am not pushing them on anyone. I

firmly have stated that it takes a comittment, it is a viable

treatment option and I am doing the best I know how to do, trying to

" first do no harm " .

> Sincerely and with Respect,

> Trisha

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: fritolay66 <fritolay66@...>

> trishasping50@...; Tr Rummel <espbotanicals@...>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 6:57:17 PM

> Subject: Fw: ESP Botanicals

>

>

> This is one of my friends and I thought he and his wife would better

benefit in talking to you.

>

>

>

> ----- Forwarded Message ----

> From: savemyskin4me <savemyskin4me@...>

> bird mites

> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 5:28:05 PM

> Subject: ESP Botanicals

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> My wife and I have been using the ESP for a couple of weeks, but I am

>

> wondering about other peoples experiences. I heard that it gets worse

>

> before it gets better, but what exactly does that mean? For us, we have

>

> some deep sores and the ESP has caused them to move to new areas of

>

> our skin and start new sores. Anybody else have experience like this?

>

> This is very frustrating, as there is the fear that by continuing to

>

> use the ESP that we will make things much worse.

>

> I am looking for something that we can use internally that will help

>

> kill these things off. Any suggestions?

>

[Guest guest]

The ESP botanicals products worked better than anything i ever tried.(for

external treatment) I have a family of four and not alot of money. I was able to

stretch the products to make it work. If you want to know more about how to do

this i can elaborate. They dont work immediately, they work over time, and seem

to make things worse in the beginning. With continued use they do show their

true colors. These products have contributed to the cure of more people on here

than any other product. They are not the end all, but a part of the recipe for

success.

Internal, external, and environmental = success!!

Good Luck!

Holly (BUG FREE!!!!!!!)

> > >

> > > Can someone please tell me why they use Roach Puff opposed to Boric Acid?

I've tried to find this on the posts but I'm new to this group and find it a

little confusing reading replies, I sometimes don't know where they end or

begin.

> > >

> > > Thanks you:)

> > >

> > > Ann-Marie

> >

> > Also, I've been very interested in using the New Hope 2 line from Esp

Botanicals has this worked well for anyone?

> >

> > Thanks again.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'd like to get some feedback as whether the ESP balm can replace expensive

makeup. My mom/sis use anti-aging lotions, eye cream, night creams, etc from

lancome, shiseido, <insert other expensive name here>. I would just give them a

jar of esp and tell them to use that exclusively. It's cheap if you consider

what you'd replace.

> > > >

> > > > Can someone please tell me why they use Roach Puff opposed to Boric

Acid? I've tried to find this on the posts but I'm new to this group and find it

a little confusing reading replies, I sometimes don't know where they end or

begin.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks you:)

> > > >

> > > > Ann-Marie

> > >

> > > Also, I've been very interested in using the New Hope 2 line from Esp

Botanicals has this worked well for anyone?

> > >

> > > Thanks again.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The best thing to do is to go to the website and call the phone number on there.

You may have to leave a message, but someone will call you back and help you to

get the products that you need. I my self would recommend getting the New Hope1

soap, shampoo and balm. reason being, that you are supposed to start with NH1

and move to NH2. This is how i successfully used these products. If you have a

heavy infesstation, it might help to start with the NH2, but then theres the

chance for the bugs to build up resistance, and theres not something stronger to

follow up with.

> >

> > Can someone please tell me why they use Roach Puff opposed to Boric Acid?

I've tried to find this on the posts but I'm new to this group and find it a

little confusing reading replies, I sometimes don't know where they end or

begin.

> >

> > Thanks you:)

> >

> > Ann-Marie

>

> Also, I've been very interested in using the New Hope 2 line from Esp

Botanicals has this worked well for anyone?

>

> Thanks again.

> >

>