Re: The Dermatologist Route

[Guest guest]

yemilyg -

It is totally unbelievable that stuff like that keeps happening. On

the advice of a nurse who was assigned to me because of complicated

medical conditions, I went to the ER because of the biting and being

totally terrified by it. Fortunately, I had printed out the studies

done in China on Tim's webpage (which diagnosed acariasis among a

group of previously diagnosed " delusional " patients). It didn't help

them find anything, but at least I had proof that IT DOES HAPPEN.

I recommend anyone going to a derm print that info and have it with

you.

Bessie

> > >

> > > So googling around for collembola, I found this mold inspection

> > > company:

> > >

> > > http://www.njmoldinspection.com/pediculosis/collembola.html

> > >

> > > The webpage says " IT'S NOT A DELUSIONAL PARISITOSIS BUT

MICROSCOPIC

> > > COLLEMBOLA PRESENT WITH MOLD INFESTIONS " .

> > >

> > > This gave me hope. Although I don't live in the NY/Tri-state

area,

> > > maybe I could talk to someone there.

> > >

> > > So I called and this guy answered the phone (forget his name).

> > > He was very generous even after I told him I don't live in the

> > > area.

> > >

> > > I told him briefly my story, that I picked up these bugs from a

> > used

> > > car and I get biting and crawling sensations.

> > >

> > > Here's when all hope went out the window. He told me that I'm

> > > probably dealing with some type of allergy and not collembola

b/c

> > > collembola typically don't follow ppl into the house. He asked

> > > whether I live in a humid or dry place. I said very dry b/c I

have

> > > a dehumidifier running. He said it's probably allergy b/c

> > > collembola usually breed in damp places.

> > >

> > > He asked me whether I've seen a doctor, whether I've been to a

> > > dermatologist. I told him I had not. He said I need to go see

one

> > > b/c they know all about skin conditions. I suggested that ppl

that

> > > often go to a doctor are written off as imagining things or

crazy

> > > and I suggested some other type of bugs like bird mites. I also

> > > told him that this all started when I bought a used car infested

> > > with something. He said he's trained in allertology and

dermotolgy

> > > and the only thing he kept telling me was to go see a

dermatologist

> > > b/c they know best and they will be able to figure out what I

have

> > > and don't have.

> > >

> > > He also kept saying that it could also be some kind of an

allergy I

> > > picked up - perhaps there are stuff in my clothes like

fiberglass

> > or

> > > silicone. I told him again that this started after I bought the

> > > used car. He said that the last thing he wants to do is to tell

> > ppl

> > > they need to have their home inspected (OK, to that point, he's

> > > being honest and good). However, it was obvious that he did not

> > > want to give me the benefit of doubt that I'm dealing with

> > > mites/collembola/whatever until I've seen a doctor. So I said,

> > > thank you and ended the call. I'm not bashing the guy or I'm

not

> > > being angry b/c he didn't let me hear what I wanted to hear. In

> > > fact, I appreciate the fact he took the 8 min out of his day to

> > talk

> > > to a guy when he knew there was no money in it for him. I'm

just a

> > > bit deflated after having some hope going into the call.

> > >

> > > Ok, I'm open to seeing a doctor. I really want them to scrape

my

> > > skin and find something (or not). But I just don't want to go

and

> > > speak to a wall, having to tell my story and them labelling me

as

> > > having delusional paratosis or writing me off as " uh oh, another

> > > morg guy with a matchbox syndrome " . Really, what do you guys

> > > suggest? I wish I can find an open-minded dermatologist who'll

be

> > > able to listen.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Luckily for us our dermatologist believed us when we said Neal had bird

mites. He took skin scrapings from 2 bites but didn't find anything.

Nevertheless, he prescribed medication (permethrin 5%) first time we

went. Before we went again, Neal managed to catch one that was crawling

on his neck with masking tape and we sprayed his bed with Steri-Fab and

I managed to find a bunch of dead ones which I lifted with scotch tape

and took to him next time we went. He prescribed

Stromectrol(Ivermectin) for 2 weeks, but Neal ended up using it 5-6

weeks total. He had no bites after first week but had crawlies for a

long time. Our dermatologist is an old man and has seen everything but

unfortunately most will not believe you even with evidence. Good luck

anyway. Joan

> > >

> > > So googling around for collembola, I found this mold inspection

> > > company:

> > >

> > > http://www.njmoldinspection.com/pediculosis/collembola.html

> > >

> > > The webpage says " IT'S NOT A DELUSIONAL PARISITOSIS BUT

MICROSCOPIC

> > > COLLEMBOLA PRESENT WITH MOLD INFESTIONS " .

> > >

> > > This gave me hope. Although I don't live in the NY/Tri-state area,

> > > maybe I could talk to someone there.

> > >

> > > So I called and this guy answered the phone (forget his name).

> > > He was very generous even after I told him I don't live in the

> > > area.

> > >

> > > I told him briefly my story, that I picked up these bugs from a

> > used

> > > car and I get biting and crawling sensations.

> > >

> > > Here's when all hope went out the window. He told me that I'm

> > > probably dealing with some type of allergy and not collembola b/c

> > > collembola typically don't follow ppl into the house. He asked

> > > whether I live in a humid or dry place. I said very dry b/c I have

> > > a dehumidifier running. He said it's probably allergy b/c

> > > collembola usually breed in damp places.

> > >

> > > He asked me whether I've seen a doctor, whether I've been to a

> > > dermatologist. I told him I had not. He said I need to go see one

> > > b/c they know all about skin conditions. I suggested that ppl that

> > > often go to a doctor are written off as imagining things or crazy

> > > and I suggested some other type of bugs like bird mites. I also

> > > told him that this all started when I bought a used car infested

> > > with something. He said he's trained in allertology and dermotolgy

> > > and the only thing he kept telling me was to go see a

dermatologist

> > > b/c they know best and they will be able to figure out what I have

> > > and don't have.

> > >

> > > He also kept saying that it could also be some kind of an allergy

I

> > > picked up - perhaps there are stuff in my clothes like fiberglass

> > or

> > > silicone. I told him again that this started after I bought the

> > > used car. He said that the last thing he wants to do is to tell

> > ppl

> > > they need to have their home inspected (OK, to that point, he's

> > > being honest and good). However, it was obvious that he did not

> > > want to give me the benefit of doubt that I'm dealing with

> > > mites/collembola/whatever until I've seen a doctor. So I said,

> > > thank you and ended the call. I'm not bashing the guy or I'm not

> > > being angry b/c he didn't let me hear what I wanted to hear. In

> > > fact, I appreciate the fact he took the 8 min out of his day to

> > talk

> > > to a guy when he knew there was no money in it for him. I'm just a

> > > bit deflated after having some hope going into the call.

> > >

> > > Ok, I'm open to seeing a doctor. I really want them to scrape my

> > > skin and find something (or not). But I just don't want to go and

> > > speak to a wall, having to tell my story and them labelling me as

> > > having delusional paratosis or writing me off as " uh oh, another

> > > morg guy with a matchbox syndrome " . Really, what do you guys

> > > suggest? I wish I can find an open-minded dermatologist who'll be

> > > able to listen.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Joan -

When you caught the live one, did you have it ID'd?

Has anyone here had an ID through skin scrapings?

Bessie

> > > >

> > > > So googling around for collembola, I found this mold

inspection

> > > > company:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.njmoldinspection.com/pediculosis/collembola.html

> > > >

> > > > The webpage says " IT'S NOT A DELUSIONAL PARISITOSIS BUT

> MICROSCOPIC

> > > > COLLEMBOLA PRESENT WITH MOLD INFESTIONS " .

> > > >

> > > > This gave me hope. Although I don't live in the NY/Tri-state

area,

> > > > maybe I could talk to someone there.

> > > >

> > > > So I called and this guy answered the phone (forget his name).

> > > > He was very generous even after I told him I don't live in the

> > > > area.

> > > >

> > > > I told him briefly my story, that I picked up these bugs from

a

> > > used

> > > > car and I get biting and crawling sensations.

> > > >

> > > > Here's when all hope went out the window. He told me that I'm

> > > > probably dealing with some type of allergy and not collembola

b/c

> > > > collembola typically don't follow ppl into the house. He asked

> > > > whether I live in a humid or dry place. I said very dry b/c I

have

> > > > a dehumidifier running. He said it's probably allergy b/c

> > > > collembola usually breed in damp places.

> > > >

> > > > He asked me whether I've seen a doctor, whether I've been to a

> > > > dermatologist. I told him I had not. He said I need to go see

one

> > > > b/c they know all about skin conditions. I suggested that ppl

that

> > > > often go to a doctor are written off as imagining things or

crazy

> > > > and I suggested some other type of bugs like bird mites. I

also

> > > > told him that this all started when I bought a used car

infested

> > > > with something. He said he's trained in allertology and

dermotolgy

> > > > and the only thing he kept telling me was to go see a

> dermatologist

> > > > b/c they know best and they will be able to figure out what I

have

> > > > and don't have.

> > > >

> > > > He also kept saying that it could also be some kind of an

allergy

> I

> > > > picked up - perhaps there are stuff in my clothes like

fiberglass

> > > or

> > > > silicone. I told him again that this started after I bought

the

> > > > used car. He said that the last thing he wants to do is to

tell

> > > ppl

> > > > they need to have their home inspected (OK, to that point,

he's

> > > > being honest and good). However, it was obvious that he did

not

> > > > want to give me the benefit of doubt that I'm dealing with

> > > > mites/collembola/whatever until I've seen a doctor. So I said,

> > > > thank you and ended the call. I'm not bashing the guy or I'm

not

> > > > being angry b/c he didn't let me hear what I wanted to hear.

In

> > > > fact, I appreciate the fact he took the 8 min out of his day

to

> > > talk

> > > > to a guy when he knew there was no money in it for him. I'm

just a

> > > > bit deflated after having some hope going into the call.

> > > >

> > > > Ok, I'm open to seeing a doctor. I really want them to scrape

my

> > > > skin and find something (or not). But I just don't want to go

and

> > > > speak to a wall, having to tell my story and them labelling

me as

> > > > having delusional paratosis or writing me off as " uh oh,

another

> > > > morg guy with a matchbox syndrome " . Really, what do you guys

> > > > suggest? I wish I can find an open-minded dermatologist

who'll be

> > > > able to listen.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

the doctors will prescribe permethrin. ask for at least 2 refills on that. they are hesitant to prescribe ivermectin, though, unless you find a doctor who is familiar with this problem. like my friend's doctors, who were in Tampa, Florida, and very knowledgeable of this problem. She was prescribed many, many doses of ivermectin, albendazole, and permethrin. She says that the BRAND NAME Elimite (permethrin 5%) is better than the generic, so try to get the Elimite, if you can. All my docs know I take the injectible ivermectin, orally. I now use it topically, and is working great. I don't know how these meds help with bird mites, though, or rodent mites. I did speak with an entomologist from the University of Florida in Gainesville, and by what I told him, he suggested that I have either the Northern

Fowl Mite or the Tropical Rat Mite (due to the fact that I get bit in the ktichen and in my car so much). I don't know.... I am almost positive it is a bad case of sarcops. But my mites are black in color and not white or opaque. papules are those red bite looking reddish bumps. that is where there is live mites and eggs. i heard that a good scraping should be from more than one area, though, even up to six places on the body. it is very difficult to get a doctor who will actually work with you. That's why we are all online all the time and ordering stuff from foreign countries, etc. and from livestock companies.

mel

From: yemilyg <e_shenk@...>Subject: The Dermatologist Routebird mites Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:08 PM

I want to find out what has infested me and what to do about it. Isn'tthat simple, and yet apparently completely out of reach in the U.S.A. in2008.I crept off from my first derm, who said--why repeat all the junk talk:He didn't know what was biting me but it couldn't be bird mites; theydon't infest people. The bites he could see were either not bites orpsychically induced, and the crawling sensations entirely imaginary. Ifeel them in my nose and ears? Then I should see an ear-nose-throatspecialist. He could tell by looking that it wasn't scabies, no testsneeded.At least I'm better prepared for the next one. I am under seriouspressure from my main man to try again; he says he'll pay for anythinginsurance doesn't cover. He snorts when I cite anything from thisgroup--what is wrong with these guys????Next time, I'll ask for a test of skin scrapings. I will not leave theexamining

room until he/she has given me an explanation for some of thestuff on my skin that I can see with my X30 loup. I'm taking my laptopfor show and tell of bites, rashes, and streaks. I will not propose anytheories next time, only present the problem. You have warned me not totake any samples (the matchbox syndrome), but I don't have any, anyway.A few months ago I made a similar declaration on this site, and I didn'tfollow through, but now I need to in order to satisfy my friend.HAS ANY SINGLE ONE OF YOU GOTTEN SERIOUS, INVESTIGATIVE ATTENTION FROM ADOCTOR OF ANY KIND? If so, pls. share who and what happened.I can't believe I'm living in a twilight zone.ES> >> > So googling around for collembola, I found this mold inspection> > company:> >> > http://www.njmoldin spection. com/pediculosis/ collembola. html> >> > The webpage says "IT'S NOT A DELUSIONAL PARISITOSIS BUT MICROSCOPIC> > COLLEMBOLA PRESENT WITH MOLD INFESTIONS".>

>> > This gave me hope. Although I don't live in the NY/Tri-state area,> > maybe I could talk to someone there.> >> > So I called and this guy answered the phone (forget his name).> > He was very generous even after I told him I don't live in the> > area.> >> > I told him briefly my story, that I picked up these bugs from a> used> > car and I get biting and crawling sensations.> >> > Here's when all hope went out the window. He told me that I'm> > probably dealing with some type of allergy and not collembola b/c> > collembola typically don't follow ppl into the house. He asked> > whether I live in a humid or dry place. I said very dry b/c I have> > a dehumidifier running. He said it's probably allergy b/c> > collembola usually breed in damp places.> >> > He asked me

whether I've seen a doctor, whether I've been to a> > dermatologist. I told him I had not. He said I need to go see one> > b/c they know all about skin conditions. I suggested that ppl that> > often go to a doctor are written off as imagining things or crazy> > and I suggested some other type of bugs like bird mites. I also> > told him that this all started when I bought a used car infested> > with something. He said he's trained in allertology and dermotolgy> > and the only thing he kept telling me was to go see a dermatologist> > b/c they know best and they will be able to figure out what I have> > and don't have.> >> > He also kept saying that it could also be some kind of an allergy I> > picked up - perhaps there are stuff in my clothes like fiberglass> or> > silicone. I told him again that this started after I

bought the> > used car. He said that the last thing he wants to do is to tell> ppl> > they need to have their home inspected (OK, to that point, he's> > being honest and good). However, it was obvious that he did not> > want to give me the benefit of doubt that I'm dealing with> > mites/collembola/ whatever until I've seen a doctor. So I said,> > thank you and ended the call. I'm not bashing the guy or I'm not> > being angry b/c he didn't let me hear what I wanted to hear. In> > fact, I appreciate the fact he took the 8 min out of his day to> talk> > to a guy when he knew there was no money in it for him. I'm just a> > bit deflated after having some hope going into the call.> >> > Ok, I'm open to seeing a doctor. I really want them to scrape my> > skin and find something (or not). But I just don't want to go

and> > speak to a wall, having to tell my story and them labelling me as> > having delusional paratosis or writing me off as "uh oh, another> > morg guy with a matchbox syndrome". Really, what do you guys> > suggest? I wish I can find an open-minded dermatologist who'll be> > able to listen.> >>

[Guest guest]

ES,

I believe golfingnut got his bugs identified. Here's a copy of a post

I saved that had some useful info. I recall him talking about other

parasites in some of his other posts, but I didn't save them:

From golfingnut 4/21/08

I was told by my parasite expert (will not allow me to post his name)

that you will need to take ivermectin (by weight, I weigh 200lbs and

took 6 stomocel pills / day) for 30 days everyday. Original thought

was to take it every 3rd day but this worm (if you have the worm

variety) has a life cycle that requires daily ivermectin. Try and

find a doctor who knows about this. Vets seem to know more than

anyone else about this worm (strongelide) than medical docs. You may

want to try iver everyday for 30 days. Be very careful. I still have

occasional crawlies on my foot and eyes and will start iver today for

30 days straight.

Also, don't forget the ozone generator. Its the only way I know of to

get them out of the enviornment. Since I started using ozone my house

is clear. I see no more fuzzballs, specks, etc. Get the most

powerful one you can (mine is 14,000 mg/hour) and turn it loose in

your house, room by room. Don't go in the room until one hour after

it has shut down if it has a timer. The ozone will kill you as well.

Be careful with uvc lamps as I think I hurt my eyes with the one I use.

Fogged with the BEST YET late last night. Still foggy this am when we

got home at 8 am. Pretty cool fogger! Only hopeful that it

works...pls. pray for us! After almost two years with this mite....I

believe it to be the cheymietiella yasguri mite that my dog contracted

at a kennel....that has zoonosed onto my family and household, I am at

the end of my thread!

This is myrtle again. If you go back to the March-April 2008

timeframe and review golfingnut's messages, he talks about his medical

care. Were you in the group at that time? Anyway, he traveled to

various doctors for diagnosis and treatment.

I hope you get some answers. Let us know what you find out!

myrtle

>

> I want to find out what has infested me and what to do about it. Isn't

> that simple, and yet apparently completely out of reach in the U.S.A. in

> 2008.

>

> I crept off from my first derm, who said--why repeat all the junk talk:

> He didn't know what was biting me but it couldn't be bird mites; they

> don't infest people. The bites he could see were either not bites or

> psychically induced, and the crawling sensations entirely imaginary. I

> feel them in my nose and ears? Then I should see an ear-nose-throat

> specialist. He could tell by looking that it wasn't scabies, no tests

> needed.

>

> At least I'm better prepared for the next one. I am under serious

> pressure from my main man to try again; he says he'll pay for anything

> insurance doesn't cover. He snorts when I cite anything from this

> group--what is wrong with these guys????

>

> Next time, I'll ask for a test of skin scrapings. I will not leave the

> examining room until he/she has given me an explanation for some of the

> stuff on my skin that I can see with my X30 loup. I'm taking my laptop

> for show and tell of bites, rashes, and streaks. I will not propose any

> theories next time, only present the problem. You have warned me not to

> take any samples (the matchbox syndrome), but I don't have any, anyway.

>

> A few months ago I made a similar declaration on this site, and I didn't

> follow through, but now I need to in order to satisfy my friend.

>

> HAS ANY SINGLE ONE OF YOU GOTTEN SERIOUS, INVESTIGATIVE ATTENTION FROM A

> DOCTOR OF ANY KIND? If so, pls. share who and what happened.

>

> I can't believe I'm living in a twilight zone.

>

> ES

[Guest guest]

I have been to ten doctors total; good and bad. The problem with this

is according to the medical and science world, this doesn't happen.

Ironically I work in Clinical Research and have a degree in Biology,

but now of course I completely disagree with them. The last

dermatologist I went to said my skin irritation was probably due to

the weather. (My " man " urged me to see another doctor as well. I

thought I'd give it another chance.) Things have honestly only

improved by advice I have gotten on this chatroom (This doesn't mean

do everything on here. Use your brain.) Unfortunately you have to be

your own scientist. There is no professional for this. I have

actually been seeing a physiologist who says there is nothing wrong

with me other than anxiety and depression. He believes me but not the

dermatologist. Oh, also my boyfriend hates me on this site. " Has

anyone on there actually gotten rid of it? " Basically here is my

advice is to compromise with your boyfriend, do both paths; practice

stuff you get off of here but also seek a doctor. Doubling your

chances can't hurt.

As for Doctor's, try choosing a young woman General Prac. She was the

one that actually believed me. Other than Ivermectin though, there

isn't much medication or " magic pill " . A good cleaning routine is

your best bet. Listen to Rita.

> > >

> > > So googling around for collembola, I found this mold inspection

> > > company:

> > >

> > > http://www.njmoldinspection.com/pediculosis/collembola.html

> > >

> > > The webpage says " IT'S NOT A DELUSIONAL PARISITOSIS BUT MICROSCOPIC

> > > COLLEMBOLA PRESENT WITH MOLD INFESTIONS " .

> > >

> > > This gave me hope. Although I don't live in the NY/Tri-state area,

> > > maybe I could talk to someone there.

> > >

> > > So I called and this guy answered the phone (forget his name).

> > > He was very generous even after I told him I don't live in the

> > > area.

> > >

> > > I told him briefly my story, that I picked up these bugs from a

> > used

> > > car and I get biting and crawling sensations.

> > >

> > > Here's when all hope went out the window. He told me that I'm

> > > probably dealing with some type of allergy and not collembola b/c

> > > collembola typically don't follow ppl into the house. He asked

> > > whether I live in a humid or dry place. I said very dry b/c I have

> > > a dehumidifier running. He said it's probably allergy b/c

> > > collembola usually breed in damp places.

> > >

> > > He asked me whether I've seen a doctor, whether I've been to a

> > > dermatologist. I told him I had not. He said I need to go see one

> > > b/c they know all about skin conditions. I suggested that ppl that

> > > often go to a doctor are written off as imagining things or crazy

> > > and I suggested some other type of bugs like bird mites. I also

> > > told him that this all started when I bought a used car infested

> > > with something. He said he's trained in allertology and dermotolgy

> > > and the only thing he kept telling me was to go see a dermatologist

> > > b/c they know best and they will be able to figure out what I have

> > > and don't have.

> > >

> > > He also kept saying that it could also be some kind of an allergy I

> > > picked up - perhaps there are stuff in my clothes like fiberglass

> > or

> > > silicone. I told him again that this started after I bought the

> > > used car. He said that the last thing he wants to do is to tell

> > ppl

> > > they need to have their home inspected (OK, to that point, he's

> > > being honest and good). However, it was obvious that he did not

> > > want to give me the benefit of doubt that I'm dealing with

> > > mites/collembola/whatever until I've seen a doctor. So I said,

> > > thank you and ended the call. I'm not bashing the guy or I'm not

> > > being angry b/c he didn't let me hear what I wanted to hear. In

> > > fact, I appreciate the fact he took the 8 min out of his day to

> > talk

> > > to a guy when he knew there was no money in it for him. I'm just a

> > > bit deflated after having some hope going into the call.

> > >

> > > Ok, I'm open to seeing a doctor. I really want them to scrape my

> > > skin and find something (or not). But I just don't want to go and

> > > speak to a wall, having to tell my story and them labelling me as

> > > having delusional paratosis or writing me off as " uh oh, another

> > > morg guy with a matchbox syndrome " . Really, what do you guys

> > > suggest? I wish I can find an open-minded dermatologist who'll be

> > > able to listen.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Um, skin scrapings didn't work for me.

Specimens are fragile anyhow.

By the time someone puts oil on my skin ansd scrapes till I bleed,

nnnooooo, not much is going to survive that.

katiejill

>

> Joan -

> When you caught the live one, did you have it ID'd?

> Has anyone here had an ID through skin scrapings?

> Bessie

>

[Guest guest]

An exterminater said put out glue traps for 20 days, then mail them to him and

he will look at them with a micron microscope & dicern a course od action . If

you are not local he will arrange it with a local exterminater and and have it

done.

I saw him on the TV show dirty jobs & called him.

His name is Breatherton in Louisiana

Company name Vexcon.

1 poster tried it. Mr Breatherton said it would take 2 months of applications

of one super nasty poison.

The poster is chemical sensitive, so they opted not to proceed.

Remember it is a bug it will die. Flood it with soap & clog its shericals it

breathes from, wait a few days & do it again. then wet vac it up & soak the

home in borax to poision it. It is a bug it will die. Consistant application of

Dawn soap 1 cup & 1/2 cup of borax & 4 cups of water will poison anything .

It lives in the grass so it might get tracked in again. if so re-applly. And if

it gets on the skin :soak it off for 30 mins per day 2 times a day 1 cup borax &

5 gallons of water for 30 mins for 3 days then

1 cup epsom & 5 gallons of water for 30 mins for 7 days, then back to borax for

1 day then back to epsom for 7 days. Keep the bath water soapy with dawn 1/8 cup

per bath. otherwise they crawl back on at the waterline.

Bugs are weak , God is strong , He will help ask Him. God is Love.

Jesus is Lord of all

God bless you,

Bill

livingwithcritters wrote:

> Um, skin scrapings didn't work for me.

> Specimens are fragile anyhow.

> By the time someone puts oil on my skin ansd scrapes till I bleed,

> nnnooooo, not much is going to survive that.

> katiejill

>

>>

>> Joan -

>> When you caught the live one, did you have it ID'd?

>> Has anyone here had an ID through skin scrapings?

>> Bessie

>>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bessie. The first ones I caught went to our dermatologist who said

it was bird mites but he did not or could not identify them. Then I

caught some more and sent them to Texas Dept. of Agriculture to an

emtologist(sp) He was less than helpful and said he could not identify

them. I next sent some to Dr. Ben Oldag at CedarCide and he identified

them as bird mites although again did not identify type. From my own

observation they looked like the kind we used to find on our chickens

when I was a child living on a farm. Sorry, that is all I can tell you

except we had millions of them before we finally got rid of them.

Reading all your stories makes me think we were very lucky Neal did not

pick up any secondary infection from them. Anyway, I stay on here and

read everything in case they ever show up again. I just sent the group

an email from a lady in Florida I keep in contact with who is having a

very rough time. Sent you a lot of suggestions I read on here and she

is doing some better physically, but not mentally. She has no-one who

believes her and a husband who ridicules her constantly. I don't think

I could live like that with no support.

Joan

> > > > >

> > > > > So googling around for collembola, I found this mold

> inspection

> > > > > company:

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.njmoldinspection.com/pediculosis/collembola.html

> > > > >

> > > > > The webpage says " IT'S NOT A DELUSIONAL PARISITOSIS BUT

> > MICROSCOPIC

> > > > > COLLEMBOLA PRESENT WITH MOLD INFESTIONS " .

> > > > >

> > > > > This gave me hope. Although I don't live in the NY/Tri-state

> area,

> > > > > maybe I could talk to someone there.

> > > > >

> > > > > So I called and this guy answered the phone (forget his name).

> > > > > He was very generous even after I told him I don't live in the

> > > > > area.

> > > > >

> > > > > I told him briefly my story, that I picked up these bugs from

> a

> > > > used

> > > > > car and I get biting and crawling sensations.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here's when all hope went out the window. He told me that I'm

> > > > > probably dealing with some type of allergy and not collembola

> b/c

> > > > > collembola typically don't follow ppl into the house. He asked

> > > > > whether I live in a humid or dry place. I said very dry b/c I

> have

> > > > > a dehumidifier running. He said it's probably allergy b/c

> > > > > collembola usually breed in damp places.

> > > > >

> > > > > He asked me whether I've seen a doctor, whether I've been to a

> > > > > dermatologist. I told him I had not. He said I need to go see

> one

> > > > > b/c they know all about skin conditions. I suggested that ppl

> that

> > > > > often go to a doctor are written off as imagining things or

> crazy

> > > > > and I suggested some other type of bugs like bird mites. I

> also

> > > > > told him that this all started when I bought a used car

> infested

> > > > > with something. He said he's trained in allertology and

> dermotolgy

> > > > > and the only thing he kept telling me was to go see a

> > dermatologist

> > > > > b/c they know best and they will be able to figure out what I

> have

> > > > > and don't have.

> > > > >

> > > > > He also kept saying that it could also be some kind of an

> allergy

> > I

> > > > > picked up - perhaps there are stuff in my clothes like

> fiberglass

> > > > or

> > > > > silicone. I told him again that this started after I bought

> the

> > > > > used car. He said that the last thing he wants to do is to

> tell

> > > > ppl

> > > > > they need to have their home inspected (OK, to that point,

> he's

> > > > > being honest and good). However, it was obvious that he did

> not

> > > > > want to give me the benefit of doubt that I'm dealing with

> > > > > mites/collembola/whatever until I've seen a doctor. So I said,

> > > > > thank you and ended the call. I'm not bashing the guy or I'm

> not

> > > > > being angry b/c he didn't let me hear what I wanted to hear.

> In

> > > > > fact, I appreciate the fact he took the 8 min out of his day

> to

> > > > talk

> > > > > to a guy when he knew there was no money in it for him. I'm

> just a

> > > > > bit deflated after having some hope going into the call.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok, I'm open to seeing a doctor. I really want them to scrape

> my

> > > > > skin and find something (or not). But I just don't want to go

> and

> > > > > speak to a wall, having to tell my story and them labelling

> me as

> > > > > having delusional paratosis or writing me off as " uh oh,

> another

> > > > > morg guy with a matchbox syndrome " . Really, what do you guys

> > > > > suggest? I wish I can find an open-minded dermatologist

> who'll be

> > > > > able to listen.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Mel -

Do you have the names of the docs in Tampa? I am trying to develop a

list of " mite-friendly " professionals in the Tampa Bay area.

Thanks,

Bessie

> > >

> > > So googling around for collembola, I found this mold inspection

> > > company:

> > >

> > > http://www.njmoldin spection. com/pediculosis/ collembola. html

> > >

> > > The webpage says " IT'S NOT A DELUSIONAL PARISITOSIS BUT

MICROSCOPIC

> > > COLLEMBOLA PRESENT WITH MOLD INFESTIONS " .

> > >

> > > This gave me hope. Although I don't live in the NY/Tri-state

area,

> > > maybe I could talk to someone there.

> > >

> > > So I called and this guy answered the phone (forget his name).

> > > He was very generous even after I told him I don't live in the

> > > area.

> > >

> > > I told him briefly my story, that I picked up these bugs from a

> > used

> > > car and I get biting and crawling sensations.

> > >

> > > Here's when all hope went out the window. He told me that I'm

> > > probably dealing with some type of allergy and not collembola

b/c

> > > collembola typically don't follow ppl into the house. He asked

> > > whether I live in a humid or dry place. I said very dry b/c I

have

> > > a dehumidifier running. He said it's probably allergy b/c

> > > collembola usually breed in damp places.

> > >

> > > He asked me whether I've seen a doctor, whether I've been to a

> > > dermatologist. I told him I had not. He said I need to go see

one

> > > b/c they know all about skin conditions. I suggested that ppl

that

> > > often go to a doctor are written off as imagining things or

crazy

> > > and I suggested some other type of bugs like bird mites. I also

> > > told him that this all started when I bought a used car infested

> > > with something. He said he's trained in allertology and

dermotolgy

> > > and the only thing he kept telling me was to go see a

dermatologist

> > > b/c they know best and they will be able to figure out what I

have

> > > and don't have.

> > >

> > > He also kept saying that it could also be some kind of an

allergy I

> > > picked up - perhaps there are stuff in my clothes like

fiberglass

> > or

> > > silicone. I told him again that this started after I bought the

> > > used car. He said that the last thing he wants to do is to tell

> > ppl

> > > they need to have their home inspected (OK, to that point, he's

> > > being honest and good). However, it was obvious that he did not

> > > want to give me the benefit of doubt that I'm dealing with

> > > mites/collembola/ whatever until I've seen a doctor. So I said,

> > > thank you and ended the call. I'm not bashing the guy or I'm not

> > > being angry b/c he didn't let me hear what I wanted to hear. In

> > > fact, I appreciate the fact he took the 8 min out of his day to

> > talk

> > > to a guy when he knew there was no money in it for him. I'm

just a

> > > bit deflated after having some hope going into the call.

> > >

> > > Ok, I'm open to seeing a doctor. I really want them to scrape my

> > > skin and find something (or not). But I just don't want to go

and

> > > speak to a wall, having to tell my story and them labelling me

as

> > > having delusional paratosis or writing me off as " uh oh, another

> > > morg guy with a matchbox syndrome " . Really, what do you guys

> > > suggest? I wish I can find an open-minded dermatologist who'll

be

> > > able to listen.

> > >

> >

>