Re: Leaving the House: Any Advice?

[Guest guest]

That depends are on where your heading after you leave....house,

apartment, hotel? Also, I would spray your present house before you

leave with a good knockdown spray and a insect growth regulator. If

you can use a dehumidifier to get the house humidity down while you

are gone, you could come home to a critter free house.

Brand new luggage, buy it and bag it in large garbage bag before you

even get out of the store parking lot. Don't even put it in your car

without the garbage bag. Clean your clothes, microwave them,

and put in sealed gargage bags to be put into your new luggage.

Spend a lot of extra time cleaning your vehicle, as this is the most

likely way you will bring them with you. If flying, take a taxi to

the airport. Pack your clothes into your new luggage (still in there

garbage bags, I use tall kitchen garbage bags) and put the new luggage

back into the large garbage bag. Clean yourself, get dressed in

microwaved clothes and leave the house right away....no hanging

around. With this you stand a pretty good chance of staying critter

free. Don't forget, when you get to your new destination, bag your

clothes, especially the ones you traveled in, and take a shower as

soon as you arrive. Be sure to shower before going to bed each night

at your new place to reduce chance of infesting new bed.

It's not a bad idea to treat your new place with at least a IGR to

catch any stragglers or the newly hatched. You can prevent a new

infestation if you treat your enviroment before they get a foothold.

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> I have the opportunity to leave my house for a few months and escape

> the source of my infestation. I've already removed the bird nests and

> had the house treated by PCO. I don't think he did a very good job

> because I'm getting bitten just as much as before, but I don't want to

> expose myself to any more chemicals.

>

> What's the best way to go about this to ensure the mites don't follow

> me when I leave?

>

[Guest guest]

I think many ppl will give you very similar advice.

I'd probably throw out everything that you don't need. It may be

hard to let go but that matress or sofa/couch of yours may need to

go. You have a great opportunity to wipe out bugs from your place

by being away and start life all over so why risk it by keeping

infested items, right? Before I leave home I'd do a good knock-down

with IGR (maybe Ortho max (bifithren) w/ Nylar or Gentrol). Then

after that's dry, I'd DE the heck out of your place. I hate DE b/c

it's so messy but for many ppl here, DE has been the key difference

maker. Then I'd also make sure to have a dehumidifier running while

away. If you can afford to also keep your HVAC heater on while

away, you should consider that (80F or above, higher the better).

Your place will truly be a desert.

When I took a 2 week trip in Oct, I was very careful packing

everything. Even bought a new suitcase and bagged it in a trash bag

in the parking lot. But I still brought them with me. I think I

was the source. So even if you're very careful, they may be coming

out of you. So I'd focus on treating your body as well while you're

away. Do iver, sulfur tablets, ESP, spice baths, sulfur baths, dry

saunas, whatever you need to do to get them out of your body.

The less clothes you take with you, the better, meaning the more you

buy once at your destination, the better chance you have not

bringing them with you. In my experience and the experiences of

some others, no matter what you do and how careful you are, you will

always bring them with you. If you can bring or buy the " kit "

(alcohol, windex, borax, menthol crystals, bounce, Listerine, etc)

you usually use, then great, you can continue to use them at your

destination.

I bake my clothes now. I tried microwaving before but have killed

way too many clothes instead of the bugs. I bake at 190-200F for

about an hour typically. If I take a trip somewhere, I bake

everything and pack them in ziploc bags as soon as they come out of

the oven. After they cool down, I put some menthol crystals in the

bags too. But again, the less clothes you take the better.

Please do be careful not to infest the new place by taking

appropriate measures to treat the new place. And the two week trip

I was talking about... when I came back, my home was noticeably

better. However I think I ended up re-infesting my home again, so

be careful not to bring any back!!!

Good luck!

kihun

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> > I have the opportunity to leave my house for a few months and

escape

> > the source of my infestation. I've already removed the bird

nests and

> > had the house treated by PCO. I don't think he did a very good

job

> > because I'm getting bitten just as much as before, but I don't

want to

> > expose myself to any more chemicals.

> >

> > What's the best way to go about this to ensure the mites don't

follow

> > me when I leave?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

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> I have the opportunity to leave my house for a few months and escape

> the source of my infestation. I've already removed the bird nests and

> had the house treated by PCO. I don't think he did a very good job

> because I'm getting bitten just as much as before, but I don't want to

> expose myself to any more chemicals.

>

> What's the best way to go about this to ensure the mites don't follow

> me when I leave?

I would use cedarcide and or DE in your car. For me cedarcide smells

better and looks better. Have used it on dash ect with no side effects.

Take little or no clothes except of course the ones on your back. I had

no success with exterminators and leaving my home. Not wishing that on

you. BAG all clothes tightly and put moth balls in bags. Set outside if

you can. Put bleach or vinegar down every drain. I have been using a

herbal protocol and mineral supplement for my body. The herbs are at

wolf creek ranch read and educate yourself. These herbs have mostly

been used for animals but humans can consume them as well. The MMS by

Jim Humble is the ticket to. The results I have had from this is truly

a miracle. I also treated my house with DE and left after many many

chemicals had no effect.

Thats is also available at http://www.wolfcreekranch.net These

creatures have parasited YOU no exterminater will take care of that.

The above protocol will. GET ON THE MMS. as well here is their site

http://mmsdr.com/index.php?page=missionstmt Good luck to you, I so can

relate.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the advice. I'm going to be staying in hotels.

Do dehumidifiers need to be emptied out periodically? If so, that

won't work 'cause I'll be far away from home.

How long do clothes need to be microwaved? What's the best way to get

them out of the car?

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> > I have the opportunity to leave my house for a few months and escape

> > the source of my infestation. I've already removed the bird nests and

> > had the house treated by PCO. I don't think he did a very good job

> > because I'm getting bitten just as much as before, but I don't want to

> > expose myself to any more chemicals.

> >

> > What's the best way to go about this to ensure the mites don't follow

> > me when I leave?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Your dehumidifier should have a coupler on the side or the back of it so that you can hook up a hose to it. By doing this you could set the dehumidifier on the countertop and lay the hose in the sink, setting it to run continually! I don't know if all dehumidifiers have this capability, but you might want to check.Best Wishes!Trly Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "buggeredbymites" Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:16:15 -0000<bird mites >Subject: Re: Leaving the House: Any Advice? Thanks for the advice. I'm going to be staying in hotels. Do dehumidifiers need to be emptied out periodically? If so, that won't work 'cause I'll be far away from home. How long do clothes need to be microwaved? What's the best way to get them out of the car? > > > > I have the opportunity to leave my house for a few months and escape > > the source of my infestation. I've already removed the bird nests and > > had the house treated by PCO. I don't think he did a very good job > > because I'm getting bitten just as much as before, but I don't want to > > expose myself to any more chemicals. > > > > What's the best way to go about this to ensure the mites don't follow > > me when I leave? > > >

[Guest guest]

Well Trly, I just realized I can't have any water running when I leave

'cause I live in the boondocks. Appreciate the tip, though. If I'm

gone in winter I have to drain all the pipes, else they freeze and do

major damage. The power here goes out a lot too in the winter. I'll

probably be gone at least three months. that should starve them out I

hope because I'd rather leave than absorb more toxic chemicals.

Already went the DE/borax route with no success. Doesn't help the

asthma either. I just need to get my a*s out of here.

Anyone at this forum return to a mite-free home after extended leave?

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> > > I have the opportunity to leave my house for a few months and escape

> > > the source of my infestation. I've already removed the bird

nests and

> > > had the house treated by PCO. I don't think he did a very good job

> > > because I'm getting bitten just as much as before, but I don't

want to

> > > expose myself to any more chemicals.

> > >

> > > What's the best way to go about this to ensure the mites don't

follow

> > > me when I leave?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Just leaving is unlikely to help.

What if, before leaving, you spray down all floors, walls, ceilings,

rugs, curtains, furniture with a mix of bifen, Nylar, and DustMite. Buy

a respirator from the Home Depot paint department to wear when you

spray.

I'm about to go back into my condo after 8 weeks in a residence inn.

Temperature there has been above 80, humidity below 10. I treated

everything with the above mix and kept cup warmers with menthol crystals

going in each room most of the time.

I went in almost every day to check, empty dehumidifiers, treat stuff,

keep the crystal tins filled. Swarming stopped about the 4th week.

I'll know more a week from now. Have to run down to the Shenandoah

Valley for a funeral this weekend. Skin/scalp/clothing protocols so

annoying when one's away from home.

I know I'll be carrying them back home with me but have some ideas from

this incredible group on how to minimize reinfestation while I work on

getting my body clear. As others have said, be disciplined about

treating yourself while you're away.

ES

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> > > > I have the opportunity to leave my house for a few months and

escape

> > > > the source of my infestation. I've already removed the bird

> nests and

> > > > had the house treated by PCO. I don't think he did a very good

job

> > > > because I'm getting bitten just as much as before, but I don't

> want to

> > > > expose myself to any more chemicals.

> > > >

> > > > What's the best way to go about this to ensure the mites don't

> follow

> > > > me when I leave?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hmmmm... Just like ES said.... Just leaving isn't going to help. The mites have been known to survive 8 months or longer without a host. The eggs from the mites can survive indefinately. You might want to try treating you enviro right before you leave as ES suggested, otherwise... They will be there when you go back in the spring. Good luck to you!TrlySent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "buggeredbymites" Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:50:03 -0000<bird mites >Subject: Re: Leaving the House: Any Advice? Well Trly, I just realized I can't have any water running when I leave 'cause I live in the boondocks. Appreciate the tip, though. If I'm gone in winter I have to drain all the pipes, else they freeze and do major damage. The power here goes out a lot too in the winter. I'll probably be gone at least three months. that should starve them out I hope because I'd rather leave than absorb more toxic chemicals. Already went the DE/borax route with no success. Doesn't help the asthma either. I just need to get my a*s out of here. Anyone at this forum return to a mite-free home after extended leave? > > > > > > I have the opportunity to leave my house for a few months and escape > > > the source of my infestation. I've already removed the bird nests and > > > had the house treated by PCO. I don't think he did a very good job > > > because I'm getting bitten just as much as before, but I don't want to > > > expose myself to any more chemicals. > > > > > > What's the best way to go about this to ensure the mites don't follow > > > me when I leave? > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks again for all feedback. My house was treated a couple weeks ago

by a PCO with some kind of IGR (Nyguard?), ProControl and another

spray that supposedly kills mites. The IGR is supposed to control for

8 months or so. So, do I really have to do it all over again? PCO

thinks it's the northern fowl mite and it will die off in a month or

so if I'm not around to feed it. That, and I'm planning on moving

after this job anyway. If the eggs can survive indefinitely, how does

anyone ever get rid of them?

> > > >

> > > > I have the opportunity to leave my house for a few months and

escape

> > > > the source of my infestation. I've already removed the bird

> nests and

> > > > had the house treated by PCO. I don't think he did a very good job

> > > > because I'm getting bitten just as much as before, but I don't

> want to

> > > > expose myself to any more chemicals.

> > > >

> > > > What's the best way to go about this to ensure the mites don't

> follow

> > > > me when I leave?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Bingo!.... " If the eggs can survive indefinitely, how does

anyone ever get rid of them? "

That's why so many are plagued with an infestation for such long

periods of time including years. They are a tenacious lot.

These mites through the years have learned to adapt to changes in

order to survive. Including adapting to various hosts. They're not

supposed to be able to do this... but they can...We are the proof...

All it takes is one mite.... and one sac of eggs... a warm body or a

soure of heat... Then the reinfestation begins all over again...

Are you experiencing any crawling feelings or are you being bitten at

all? Especially around or on your face, nose, eyes or ears?

>

> Thanks again for all feedback. My house was treated a couple weeks

ago

> by a PCO with some kind of IGR (Nyguard?), ProControl and another

> spray that supposedly kills mites. The IGR is supposed to control

for

> 8 months or so. So, do I really have to do it all over again? PCO

> thinks it's the northern fowl mite and it will die off in a month or

> so if I'm not around to feed it. That, and I'm planning on moving

> after this job anyway. If the eggs can survive indefinitely, how

does

> anyone ever get rid of them?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yup. I almost always feel something crawling me. They crawl up my

nose, corners of my eyes, ears, eyebrows, eyelashes. If I don't

slather myself with sulfur creme they take over. They're pretty much

every where else too. I get lots of pinprick bites and sometimes

harder bites. For some reason it gets worse when I take a bath as

opposed to a shower. I think they just migrate to my head when I take

a bath. Do I need to get a snorkel or something? This is ridiculous.

How do you get rid of eggs?

> >

> > Thanks again for all feedback. My house was treated a couple weeks

> ago

> > by a PCO with some kind of IGR (Nyguard?), ProControl and another

> > spray that supposedly kills mites. The IGR is supposed to control

> for

> > 8 months or so. So, do I really have to do it all over again? PCO

> > thinks it's the northern fowl mite and it will die off in a month or

> > so if I'm not around to feed it. That, and I'm planning on moving

> > after this job anyway. If the eggs can survive indefinitely, how

> does

> > anyone ever get rid of them?

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think anything can actually kill the eggs. You just wait till

they hatch, which means you have to keep slamming the environment

again and again and again and again. Keep up with personl protocols

as well.

To try and keep them off your scalp you might want to try Ray's

bathing protocol in the files section. He and his family were able to

beat this. We used his protocol but modified it to suit or needs, but

we used Original Listerine & Head and Shoulders Ocean Lift Shampoo.

Before you get in the tub, spray your head down with Listerine. Let

it sit while you're bathing. Then wash your hair with the Head and

Shoulders. Do this OVER a sink. Don't wash your hair in the tub.

I guarantee you they won't migrate to the head then!!! They

absolutely despise Menthol...

You also may want to try to keep your nostrils greased with a bit of

Aquaphor or Vaseline. They will get stuck in it trying to crawl in or

out.

Try rubbing some " Baby Oil Gel w/Lavender " on the private parts.

Stops 'em dead in their tracks.

Vacuum ALOT... sweep everything as often as you can. All cracks and

crevices... everything...

Best Wishes

Trly

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> Yup. I almost always feel something crawling me. They crawl up my

> nose, corners of my eyes, ears, eyebrows, eyelashes. If I don't

> slather myself with sulfur creme they take over. They're pretty much

> every where else too. I get lots of pinprick bites and sometimes

> harder bites. For some reason it gets worse when I take a bath as

> opposed to a shower. I think they just migrate to my head when I

take

> a bath. Do I need to get a snorkel or something? This is

ridiculous.

>

> How do you get rid of eggs?

>