Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say because we have reach a dead end .......again. If I can't get rid of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others. I along with 2 other people are ready to give up on our dehumidifiers. We just aren't seeing the same results as Jeff did. We can't get the "things" out of our basement. We won't know about our yard until next spring because we have about 4 inches of snow on the ground right now. When I got the things back on me from racking the leaves this Fall they got back in my scalp and as everyone knows that takes a long time to get them out so I'm dealing with that mess again. After all I have been through I'm ready to just give in or give up. I hate to move because it's not a move...is an abandonment of everything we have accumulated over the last 36 years of marriage. I keep saying it over and over....what are we all going to do????? Rita Rita? Adam? Are you guys doing ok? Miss seeing you around...Hugs,Trly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Ohh Rita... I am so sorry. I hate to hear that. But you can't say that you can't offer help to others! YOU had the key ingredients that helped us to get them out of our house! Bleach and salt. If it hadn't been for you guys I don't know what we'd have done! Your reccomendation worked for us. I thank you from the botton of my heart. Sure we now have internal issues... but they are OUTTA' my house... But these things are in your basement?? Hmmm... Do you have ANY mold anywhere? I'm sure that you've already checked everything out... but if they're outside and they are in your basement... wouldn't they have to be coming into the house somehow... other than on you? Could you not pick up a couple more dehumidifiers? How many do you have in a " what size house " ? Basements are very hard to dehumidify... I can never get mine below 40%... Are you still using the bleach and/or Raid on your skin? Does that seem to help any? Something has to work for you guys! You have been battling this for forever!!! Bless your hearts!!!!!! Hugs to both of you! Trly > > Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say because we have reach a dead end .......again. If I can't get rid of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others. I along with 2 other people are ready to give up on our dehumidifiers. We just aren't seeing the same results as Jeff did. We can't get the " things " out of our basement. We won't know about our yard until next spring because we have about 4 inches of snow on the ground right now. When I got the things back on me from racking the leaves this Fall they got back in my scalp and as everyone knows that takes a long time to get them out so I'm dealing with that mess again. After all I have been through I'm ready to just give in or give up. I hate to move because it's not a move...is an abandonment of everything we have accumulated over the last 36 years of marriage. I keep saying it over and over....what are we all going to do????? Rita > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Even in a group with many members, only a few seem to post regularly. More read and listen, posting occasionally, if at all. However, I cannot speak for them. For myself, I need you to share how you feel and what you do. It is not all about solutions, it is about the psychological battle as well. We know, all of us, that once we have these things, they will still come after us until we learn how to counteract the pheromones permanently. Who you write for or why you write is less important to me than that you write. I read you, Rita, because no matter what you write about, you remind me that I am not alone. katiejill Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say because we have reach a dead end .......again....If I can't get rid of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Oh, my God, Rita - I can't imagine how you must feel...it is something that I DREAD because I have heard enough of it from too many others to think I'll ever be out of the woods. If you can afford to lay out any more money, I would like to recommend that you go to Opaline Solutions online and get a large bottle of the dry oxy caps as well as the new body lotions they have. In addition to essential oils, they have oxygen in them. I used a different oxygenated cream last year when I cleaned up my skin and biting last year, but I found out much later that one of the ingredients - dimethicone - is a silicon derivative and a BIG no-no. I wish the products I'm recommending were available then. As has been said by many, including you and I, it seems that there are so many variations out there, and it also seems to evolve/adapt so that we sometimes have to change strategies. PLEASE don't give up! I (we) need you...and we need you to get it back again, OK? My prayers are with the two of you... Bessie > > Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say because we have reach a dead end .......again. If I can't get rid of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others. I along with 2 other people are ready to give up on our dehumidifiers. We just aren't seeing the same results as Jeff did. We can't get the " things " out of our basement. We won't know about our yard until next spring because we have about 4 inches of snow on the ground right now. When I got the things back on me from racking the leaves this Fall they got back in my scalp and as everyone knows that takes a long time to get them out so I'm dealing with that mess again. After all I have been through I'm ready to just give in or give up. I hate to move because it's not a move...is an abandonment of everything we have accumulated over the last 36 years of marriage. I keep saying it over and over....what are we all going to do????? Rita > > > Rita? Adam? > > > Are you guys doing ok? Miss seeing you around... > > Hugs, > Trly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Hi All, reply to KJ's comments below. I would love to write more and vent, I think it is most the time the latter and I thank all for bearing with me, especially my most recent 'melt down', I was deeply touched by your concerns.I just could not write back right away as I was on a 7 day 'work' stretch about 14 hours /day , mind you I do not sit in an office, I am in a fast paced clincial setting with some intense 'moments'. But it is my life this rare clinical specialty of 20 years and I do not complain about this aspect, as matter of fact it is my thriving force,besides I makes some good mulas for more ammo. the coming 'home' part gets depressing. I have come to my senses of course not to hang out in my already infested car etc...I go just a little more nuts before my epiphany. So, it was, I took a whole new tack in battling this, my attitude plus so much more .. I wish I could express myself better and have more time, also, sometimes there are messages between the lines, for example, that freakin PB red leather chair means really nothing in the whole scheme of things, however, it and many other 'things' represents an association with my final success after years of struggle then suddenly everything is smashed by this damn body snatchers moving in and the rest is history, you get the drift. Sometimes, I am near that apartment building and I freeze, I have tears when I see the nearby Golden Gate Park, where I ran about 12 miles /week all the way to the ocean and back, to my narly tunes, keeping me going and it was my meditative process and so much more, after, I went to my cute digs then, wallowing in my endorphins for a while, way up on the hill, top floor GG view, yes I was on top alright, along with the pigeons and who knows what else, I used to sit next to the that infested antique stove with that huge vent pipe going straight up to the roof. But I was so happy. Was I ripe for the picking of these things when the ceiling finally collapse, you bet, I must have inhaled, swallowed, digested beaucoup funky , that is fungi stuff, thank you very much, I had lots of subtle early signs but still no clue, the runners 'bible' emphasizes on the long term benefits of endurance runs ( I ran 4 big M's in 1.5 years) HOWEVER, immediatly after any long runs ( over one hour) your immune system is most vulnerable and at its lowest point, that is how I dwelled in that godforsaken place. But it was a classic otherwise Art Deco building with decent tennants, the landlords, well.....everybody is into cutting corners and this fair city by the bay sucks in Pigeon control anyway.. Ok, that is enough for this session... Myrtle, Aloha, I am HI bound next Thursday, I have decided to live a spell... I wonder if my mites do the HULA ? M From: livingwithcritters <livingwithcritters@...>Subject: Re: Rita? Adam?bird mites Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 7:01 PM Even in a group with many members, only a few seem to post regularly. More read and listen, posting occasionally, if at all.However, I cannot speak for them.For myself, I need you to share how you feel and what you do. It is not all about solutions, it is about the psychological battle as well.We know, all of us, that once we have these things, they will still come after us until we learn how to counteract the pheromones permanently.Who you write for or why you write is less important to me than that you write. I read you, Rita, because no matter what you write about, you remind me that I am not alone.katiejill Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say because we have reach a dead end .......again. ...If I can't get rid of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 M If you do the hula, they will too, but YOU get to lead! kj Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say > because we have reach a dead end .......again. ...If I can't get rid > of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Marguerite -- I'm so relieved you aren't living in your car. That's great that you're coming to Hawaii! Yay! Aloha, myrtle Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say > because we have reach a dead end .......again. ...If I can't get rid > of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 I can understand how you feel Rita. Even though you're feeling discouraged right now, please know that you've been a big help to many people on this site through your positive energy and determination. You're even on the Shanspirations site! Maybe you can try something different, confuse the bugs with a new tactic. myrtle > > Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say because we have reach a dead end .......again. If I can't get rid of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others. I along with 2 other people are ready to give up on our dehumidifiers. We just aren't seeing the same results as Jeff did. We can't get the " things " out of our basement. We won't know about our yard until next spring because we have about 4 inches of snow on the ground right now. When I got the things back on me from racking the leaves this Fall they got back in my scalp and as everyone knows that takes a long time to get them out so I'm dealing with that mess again. After all I have been through I'm ready to just give in or give up. I hate to move because it's not a move...is an abandonment of everything we have accumulated over the last 36 years of marriage. I keep saying it over and over....what are we all going to do????? Rita > > > Rita? Adam? > > > Are you guys doing ok? Miss seeing you around... > > Hugs, > Trly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Thanks for your and Bessie's words of wisdom about selfcare first vs. the environment, I will remember that for sure, thanks. Thanks, KJ for your wonderful detailed communication to us all. M From: myrtle_maui <myrtle_maui@...>Subject: Re: Rita? Adam?bird mites Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 7:53 PM Marguerite -- I'm so relieved you aren't living in your car. That'sgreat that you're coming to Hawaii! Yay!Aloha,myrtle Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say > because we have reach a dead end .......again. ...If I can't get rid > of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others....> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Hi Ms. M!Glad to hear you are taking a break and going to do the Hula!! Also glad to see you here...Hugs!TrlySent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: Marguerite Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:43:25 -0800 (PST)<bird mites >Subject: Re: Re: Rita? Adam? Hi All, reply to KJ's comments below. I would love to write more and vent, I think it is most the time the latter and I thank all for bearing with me, especially my most recent 'melt down', I was deeply touched by your concerns.I just could not write back right away as I was on a 7 day 'work' stretch about 14 hours /day , mind you I do not sit in an office, I am in a fast paced clincial setting with some intense 'moments'. But it is my life this rare clinical specialty of 20 years and I do not complain about this aspect, as matter of fact it is my thriving force,besides I makes some good mulas for more ammo. the coming 'home' part gets depressing.I have come to my senses of course not to hang out in my already infested car etc...I go just a little more nuts before my epiphany. So, it was, I took a whole new tack in battling this, my attitude plus so much more. I wish I could express myself better and have more time, also, sometimes there are messages between the lines, for example, that freakin PB red leather chair means really nothing in the whole scheme of things, however, it and many other 'things' represents an association with my final success after years of struggle then suddenly everything is smashed by this damn body snatchers moving in and the rest is history, you get the drift. Sometimes, I am near that apartment building and I freeze, I have tears when I see the nearby Golden Gate Park, where I ran about 12 miles /week all the way to the ocean and back, to my narly tunes, keeping me going and it was my meditative process and so much more, after, I went to my cute digs then, wallowing in my endorphins for a while, way up on the hill, top floor GG view, yes I was on top alright, along with the pigeons and who knows what else, I used to sit next to the that infested antique stove with that huge vent pipe going straight up to the roof. But I was so happy.Was I ripe for the picking of these things when the ceiling finally collapse, you bet, I must have inhaled, swallowed, digested beaucoup funky , that is fungi stuff, thank you very much, I had lots of subtle early signs but still no clue, the runners 'bible' emphasizes on the long term benefits of endurance runs ( I ran 4 big M's in 1.5 years) HOWEVER, immediatly after any long runs ( over one hour) your immune system is most vulnerable and at its lowest point, that is how I dwelled in that godforsaken place. But it was a classic otherwise Art Deco building with decent tennants, the landlords, well.....everybody is into cutting corners and this fair city by the bay sucks in Pigeon control anyway.. Ok, that is enough for this session... Myrtle, Aloha, I am HI bound next Thursday, I have decided to live a spell...I wonder if my mites do the HULA ? MFrom: livingwithcritters <livingwithcrittersgmail>Subject: Re: Rita? Adam?bird mites Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 7:01 PMEven in a group with many members, only a few seem to post regularly. More read and listen, posting occasionally, if at all.However, I cannot speak for them.For myself, I need you to share how you feel and what you do. It is not all about solutions, it is about the psychological battle as well.We know, all of us, that once we have these things, they will still come after us until we learn how to counteract the pheromones permanently.Who you write for or why you write is less important to me than that you write. I read you, Rita, because no matter what you write about, you remind me that I am not alone.katiejill Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say because we have reach a dead end .......again. ...If I can't get rid of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 thanks for reaching out to me and caring during my 'melt-down'. M From: livingwithcritters <livingwithcritters@ gmail.com>Subject: Re: Rita? Adam?bird mitesDate: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 7:01 PM Even in a group with many members, only a few seem to post regularly. More read and listen, posting occasionally, if at all.However, I cannot speak for them.For myself, I need you to share how you feel and what you do. It is not all about solutions, it is about the psychological battle as well.We know, all of us, that once we have these things, they will still come after us until we learn how to counteract the pheromones permanently.Who you write for or why you write is less important to me than that you write. I read you, Rita, because no matter what you write about, you remind me that I am not alone.katiejill Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say because we have reach a dead end .......again. ...If I can't get rid of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Rita, I seem to be having some sucess in my dungeon (also a hot spot) with the ESP essential oil spray recipe, adding 1 oz each of clove and juniper oils, adding 3 oz per gallon and about a 1/2 cup of Sue's orange plus for luck. I've been spraying it about once a week. I think my house is sooo dry, they are desparate for H2O and are drinking the stuff. It's not a fast kill, but I think it's a kill. And the smell is not unpleasant. And your the one who said to follow sucessful protocols, which I try to do. Thank you for that advice. bob > > Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say because we have reach a dead end .......again. If I can't get rid of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others. I along with 2 other people are ready to give up on our dehumidifiers. We just aren't seeing the same results as Jeff did. We can't get the " things " out of our basement. We won't know about our yard until next spring because we have about 4 inches of snow on the ground right now. When I got the things back on me from racking the leaves this Fall they got back in my scalp and as everyone knows that takes a long time to get them out so I'm dealing with that mess again. After all I have been through I'm ready to just give in or give up. I hate to move because it's not a move...is an abandonment of everything we have accumulated over the last 36 years of marriage. I keep saying it over and over....what are we all going to do????? Rita > > > Rita? Adam? > > > Are you guys doing ok? Miss seeing you around... > > Hugs, > Trly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 How are you doing, sweetie??? Enquiring minds, and all that... KJ Hi Trly......I haven't had much to say > because we have reach a dead end .......again. ...If I can't get rid > of the damn things I sure can't offer help to others.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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