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Hi,

What state do you live in? Yours situation sounds awful. When

we where in Colorado, my son had 12 to 15 autistic kids in his class

and no real goals. It was a nightmare. Luckily, I worked with

at home and he is at grade level for reading, slightly lower for

math. The computer has been the best blessing. He loves to play

actions games and that has been great for his hand skills, using

right and left hand for different tasks. He loves the game called

Croc. He has to make the animal run, jump and knock over

the bad animals. I am not a believer in knocking other methods of

teaching autistic children. I have seen ABA work great for some,

also I have seen TEACCH work great too. I have a friend who

swears by the Sonlight program. I advocate, use what every you

can for your child without knocking other programs. Barbara

[ ] our decision

>Hi all,

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>Well we do aba at home some, our working on doing more . Ordering the NET

>book soon. Our son is 11 years old he's been in self contained classroom

>the only student most of the time. This has not helped they were suppose

to

>be be doing aba and that awful teeach stuff. Neither was done though I

>cannot prove it. Talked to the different free advocates this is such a

>joke. Finally at this point

>were are desperate. child uses pecs and can verbalise some words.He's very

>good at receptive. Is functioning academically at the preschool level.

The

>teacher says well you have to give us some goals he can

>reach, this is why he's not meeting his goals. So the teacher gave him a

>pep r test. Told me to use his pep r for goals... guess what

>the pep r scores leads to the same core goals he's always

>had, learn colors, shapes, letters and numbers. I told the teacher this and

>he said well we just need to reword them then.

> At this point we are changing our strategy too full inclusion and I

>will beef up what aba-net I can do at home if we win!!!!???

>This should be a very interesting IEP.

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You might ask if they would consider looking at the ABLLS to make your IEP

goals. Most school systems don't even know something that specific and

comprehensive exists....Good luck. Vicky

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Hello,

What is a " Pep r test " ? Thanks, Lois

nonome wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> Well we do aba at home some, our working on doing more . Ordering the NET

> book soon. Our son is 11 years old he's been in self contained classroom

> the only student most of the time. This has not helped they were suppose to

> be be doing aba and that awful teeach stuff. Neither was done though I

> cannot prove it. Talked to the different free advocates this is such a

> joke. Finally at this point

> were are desperate. child uses pecs and can verbalise some words.He's very

> good at receptive. Is functioning academically at the preschool level. The

> teacher says well you have to give us some goals he can

> reach, this is why he's not meeting his goals. So the teacher gave him a

> pep r test. Told me to use his pep r for goals... guess what

> the pep r scores leads to the same core goals he's always

> had, learn colors, shapes, letters and numbers. I told the teacher this and

> he said well we just need to reword them then.

> At this point we are changing our strategy too full inclusion and I

> will beef up what aba-net I can do at home if we win!!!!???

> This should be a very interesting IEP.

> ______________________________________________________

> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Just to let you guys know.... those of you working with school districts and

following this

thread....

The listgroup is not monitored. Membership does not have to be approved

before someone

signs on. We have parents, therapists, ABA professionals, as well as school

personnel on this

list. Hopefully we can all learn together...

So... just in case your battling ... this list may not be the place you want to

discuss what the

school is and is not providing for your child. But it is highly recommended

that you print and

share teaching techniques found on this list with your school district teachers

and staff. : )

Anyway, I just wanted to mention this... just in case anyone did not realize

this list is not

open for anyone to read... they do have to be members.... but anyone can join...

without a

background check.

Good luck from Rhonda, listowner

(who currently has washed her hands of the public schools....)

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The school systems are not required to use any particular methodology so they probably will not use the ABLLS. They usually use whatever is mandated by their district. That said the other day I had an IEP written entirely off the ABLLS for a client of mine. The school system can't use the ABLLS, but the parent can put what they want in the IEP. So I went there with the goals that I came up with after an ABLLS update and the parent and I said this is what we want and we went through them one by one. What you will want to do is categorized by the domains that the school system uses. It will make the meeting flow more smoothly.

Also, my goal sheet was attached to the IEP, that does not necessarily help, but at least I can refer to it since my sheet has concrete examples of how to teach the skill. Although, there are some issues as to the particular placement (we are trying to get this child into a school that from my observation has a very good verbal behavior program) I was very surprised that I did not get arguments about the goals since the school system has a history of being very adversarial.

If you go in professional, CALM and well prepared with everything pre-written, they still have to write the actual IEP in front of you, (do not go on the attack listen to what they have to say) then surprising things may happen. And if you don't like the IEP don't agree to it, it is the school who becomes out of compliance.

I would also suggest going to http://www.wrightslaw.com. They have a lot of information about IEP's and your rights and I am pleased with the books I have gotten from them.

And I have no problems with school personnel going to their site they have a lot of information that they could learn from as well.

Sharon Jontiff, M.A., BCBA

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You might ask if they would consider looking at the ABLLS to make your IEP goals. Most school systems don't even know something that specific and comprehensive exists....Good luck. Vicky

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  • 1 year later...

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I am sure you had a very difficult time coming to your decision.

Mommy knows whats best & I'm sure you're doing the right thing for

Kayleigh. I've got my fingers crossed good ole Mother Nature will

help her head out over time. I thought her head looked beautiful in

the pics yuo sent a while back :-).

Please be sure you hang around the group & keep us updated on

Kayleigh. Thanks for your update.

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

MI

> We have decided not to get the helmet for Kayleigh. SHe is almost

20

> months old now and even the neuro surgeon says keeping it on her

will

> be very tough. Not only that - he says that if there is rounding

> with the helmet, he would not be able to tell us whether it truely

> was the helmet or just mother nature rounding it out. He wished

that

> he had seen us a year ago - then we coulda had her banded and we

> wouldn't be at this point.

>

> So I am saying a prayer that mother nature does round it out a bit

> more so when she is swimming or wearing a hat it isn't so

noticeable -

> her dry hair covers it nicely - but being that it is a moderate to

> severe case according to the neuro - it is very noticeable as soon

as

> her hair gets wet.

>

> It was a tough decision, but I think the helmet would cause her

more

> greif then help at this point - as she is almost 2!!!

>

> -

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I'm really happy for you that you have reached a decision, I know it

couldn't have been easy for you. Please be sure to update us once in

awhile on how your beautiful Kayleigh is doing!

Niki

Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

Phila., PA

> We have decided not to get the helmet for Kayleigh. SHe is almost

20

> months old now and even the neuro surgeon says keeping it on her

will

> be very tough. Not only that - he says that if there is rounding

> with the helmet, he would not be able to tell us whether it truely

> was the helmet or just mother nature rounding it out. He wished

that

> he had seen us a year ago - then we coulda had her banded and we

> wouldn't be at this point.

>

> So I am saying a prayer that mother nature does round it out a bit

> more so when she is swimming or wearing a hat it isn't so

noticeable -

> her dry hair covers it nicely - but being that it is a moderate to

> severe case according to the neuro - it is very noticeable as soon

as

> her hair gets wet.

>

> It was a tough decision, but I think the helmet would cause her

more

> greif then help at this point - as she is almost 2!!!

>

> -

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