Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Hi Tommy,We have pulled quite a few of these "hairs" off of my hubby. He had said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite long as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of strange...TrlySent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: tommy morrow Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST)<bird mites >Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft. Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like it should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y From: Rita and Mike Carlson <m.r.carlson@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: basement nightmarebird mitesDate: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 8:59 PM Yes, that basement is going to get the full treatment this spring. Clorox, salt and oil......I think once all this dries really well I will paint the entire basement with that thick paint just meant for areas like that. I just love my life....I'm never without things to do !!!! Rita Re: Thanks for checking on us> > > Rita,> > Did you ever try the ant traps from CVS? The ones that are sugar and> > borax?> > It might be worth a try, down in the basement. If you don't have aCVS,> > I believe that Doe has a homemade recipe.> > Might be worth a try while you wait for spring.> > We are still burning the menthol in our cars....I think after youdo it> > for awhile it gets on all surfaces and into the fabric, so it works > > better the longer you use it.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Yes it is and it crazy.i am trying to see if this is from the mites or id\s this something else "morgellon's"? So I want to see if other people have these or what? thanks for the reply tommy From: Rita and Mike Carlson <m.r.carlson@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: basement nightmarebird mitesDate: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 8:59 PM Yes, that basement is going to get the full treatment this spring. Clorox, salt and oil......I think once all this dries really well I will paint the entire basement with that thick paint just meant for areas like that. I just love my life....I'm never without things to do !!!! Rita Re: Thanks for checking on us> > > Rita,> > Did you ever try the ant traps from CVS? The ones that are sugar and> > borax?> > It might be worth a try, down in the basement. If you don't have aCVS,> > I believe that Doe has a homemade recipe.> > Might be worth a try while you wait for spring.> > We are still burning the menthol in our cars....I think after youdo it> > for awhile it gets on all surfaces and into the fabric, so it works > > better the longer you use it.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 You're welcome Tommy. Personally I believe it to be Morgs. according to the experiences that we have had... Good luck to you.TrlySent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: tommy morrow Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 18:31:01 -0800 (PST)<bird mites >Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs Yes it is and it crazy.i am trying to see if this is from the mites or id\s this something else "morgellon's"? So I want to see if other people have these or what? thanks for the reply tommy From: Rita and Mike Carlson <m.r.carlson@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: basement nightmarebird mitesDate: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 8:59 PM Yes, that basement is going to get the full treatment this spring. Clorox, salt and oil......I think once all this dries really well I will paint the entire basement with that thick paint just meant for areas like that. I just love my life....I'm never without things to do !!!! Rita Re: Thanks for checking on us> > > Rita,> > Did you ever try the ant traps from CVS? The ones that are sugar and> > borax?> > It might be worth a try, down in the basement. If you don't have aCVS,> > I believe that Doe has a homemade recipe.> > Might be worth a try while you wait for spring.> > We are still burning the menthol in our cars....I think after youdo it> > for awhile it gets on all surfaces and into the fabric, so it works > > better the longer you use it.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 > > > > Yes, we had the ant traps out for 2 years. Each room still has 4 in > them. We never noticed any improvement with them. I don't know to this > day what was in our house but the only time we saw a drop in numbers > was when we " sprayed " wet solutions on them. I have never sprayed the > basement because I thought I could wait this bug from hell out.. I used > the rooms down there for storage before I understood what I was > dealing with. It was the biggest mistake I have made. I just didn't > know what I was dealing with. Another year.....ugh. Rita > > > > Re: Thanks for checking on us > > > > > > Rita, > > > > Did you ever try the ant traps from CVS? The ones that are sugar and > > > > borax? > > > > It might be worth a try, down in the basement. If you don't have a > CVS, > > > > I believe that Doe has a homemade recipe. > > > > Might be worth a try while you wait for spring. > > > > We are still burning the menthol in our cars....I think after you > do it > > > > for awhile it gets on all surfaces and into the fabric, so it works > > > > better the longer you use it. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 thanks good info!!!From: littlescreechowl <littlescreechowl@...>Subject: Re: weird hairsbird mites Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 10:36 PM > > > > Yes, we had the ant traps out for 2 years. Each room still has 4 in > them. We never noticed any improvement with them. I don't know to this > day what was in our house but the only time we saw a drop in numbers > was when we "sprayed" wet solutions on them. I have never sprayed the > basement because I thought I could wait this bug from hell out.. I used > the rooms down there for storage before I understood what I was > dealing with. It was the biggest mistake I have made. I just didn't > know what I was dealing with. Another year.....ugh. Rita > > > > Re: Thanks for checking on us > > > > > > Rita, > > > > Did you ever try the ant traps from CVS? The ones that are sugar and > > > > borax? > > > > It might be worth a try, down in the basement. If you don't have a > CVS, > > > > I believe that Doe has a homemade recipe. > > > > Might be worth a try while you wait for spring. > > > > We are still burning the menthol in our cars....I think after you > do it > > > > for awhile it gets on all surfaces and into the fabric, so it works > > > > better the longer you use it. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I have read other people who have Morg's say similar things. > > > > Yes, we had the ant traps out for 2 years. Each room still has 4 in > them. We never noticed any improvement with them. I don't know to this > day what was in our house but the only time we saw a drop in numbers > was when we " sprayed " wet solutions on them. I have never sprayed the > basement because I thought I could wait this bug from hell out.. I used > the rooms down there for storage before I understood what I was > dealing with. It was the biggest mistake I have made. I just didn't > know what I was dealing with. Another year.....ugh. Rita > > > > Re: Thanks for checking on us > > > > > > Rita, > > > > Did you ever try the ant traps from CVS? The ones that are sugar and > > > > borax? > > > > It might be worth a try, down in the basement. If you don't have a > CVS, > > > > I believe that Doe has a homemade recipe. > > > > Might be worth a try while you wait for spring. > > > > We are still burning the menthol in our cars....I think after you > do it > > > > for awhile it gets on all surfaces and into the fabric, so it works > > > > better the longer you use it. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I'm guessing the weird hairs may have something to do with the bird mites. Aren't mites related to spiders? Could it be they are nesting in our skin and producing some sort of webbing? I've never seen anything like that come out of my skin (however I have poor eyesight), but I have oftentimes felt like there were cobwebs in my skin, I call it the cobwebby feeling. Real scientific, huh? myrtle > From: trlyblest@... <trlyblest@...> > Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs > bird mites > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 9:17 PM > > Hi Tommy, > We have pulled quite a few of these " hairs " off of my hubby. He had said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite long as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of strange... > Trly > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: tommy morrow > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST) > <bird mites> > Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words > Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft. Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like it should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 I think mites are arthropods (8 legs) like spiders. Not sure about other commonalities. KJ > > From: trlyblest@ <trlyblest@> > > Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs > > bird mites > > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 9:17 PM > > > > Hi Tommy, > > We have pulled quite a few of these " hairs " off of my hubby. He had > said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite long > as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of > strange... > > Trly > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: tommy morrow > > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST) > > <bird mites> > > Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words > > Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft. > Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms > so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like it > should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen > this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Myrtle have you ever taken a lint brush to your skin and looked at it closely????From: myrtle_maui <myrtle_maui@...>Subject: Re: weird hairsbird mites Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 1:21 PM I'm guessing the weird hairs may have something to do with the bird mites. Aren't mites related to spiders? Could it be they are nesting in our skin and producing some sort of webbing? I've never seen anything like that come out of my skin (however I have poor eyesight), but I have oftentimes felt like there were cobwebs in my skin, I call it the cobwebby feeling. Real scientific, huh? myrtle > From: trlyblest@.. . <trlyblest@. ..> > Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs > bird mites > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 9:17 PM > > Hi Tommy, > We have pulled quite a few of these "hairs" off of my hubby. He had said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite long as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of strange... > Trly > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: tommy morrow > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST) > <bird mites> > Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words > Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft. Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like it should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 No, I haven't. I don't have any activity on my skin anymore, but I'll try it sometime. It would have been interesting (or scary) to do that when I had crawlies on me. > > > From: trlyblest@ . <trlyblest@ ..> > > > Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs > > > bird mites > > > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 9:17 PM > > > > > > Hi Tommy, > > > We have pulled quite a few of these " hairs " off of my hubby. He had > > said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite long > > as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of > > strange... > > > Trly > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: tommy morrow > > > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST) > > > <bird mites> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words > > > Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft. > > Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms > > so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like it > > should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen > > this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Myrtle, The more technical of us on the site call them wispies....lol. I swear mine move around on the weblikefeelingwispiethingies. bob > > From: trlyblest@ <trlyblest@> > > Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs > > bird mites > > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 9:17 PM > > > > Hi Tommy, > > We have pulled quite a few of these " hairs " off of my hubby. He had > said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite long > as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of > strange... > > Trly > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: tommy morrow > > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST) > > <bird mites> > > Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words > > Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft. > Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms > so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like it > should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen > this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Myrtle, Is this a new development? (no activity) Do you attribute it to the ESP? > > > > > From: trlyblest@ . <trlyblest@ ..> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs > > > > > bird mites > > > > > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 9:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > Hi Tommy, > > > > > We have pulled quite a few of these " hairs " off of my hubby. He had > > > > said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite long > > > > as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of > > > > strange... > > > > > Trly > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: tommy morrow > > > > > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST) > > > > > <bird mites> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words > > > > > Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft. > > > > Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms > > > > so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like it > > > > should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen > > > > this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hi Holly, My skin has been more or less " quiet " for awhile. I wasn't having crawlies even before I used the ESP, but it still felt wormy and cobwebby. In particular, when I would wake up about 1am (when my next door neighbor the sushi chef would get home from work and start loudly fixing his dinner), I would observe my skin, and usually I had sensations of wormy-type movement in my skin, usually in the same areas like my underarms, scalp, and butt area. Now when I wake up in the middle of the night, I don't feel anything, and I don't feel anything in my skin when I wake up in the morning. The wormy sensation inside my skin is not as bad as the crawling mites, but I still wanted to do something about it. I had a relapse last year so I know better than to slack off on my efforts. I attribute my most recent progress, that of no more wormy sensations in the skin, to the ESP products, the lime juice rub on my skin, ACV (apple cider vinegar) baths, and possibly the epsom salt/borax/baking soda baths. However, I don't think my skin is normal yet because it itches quite a bit. So I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing for a long time. Please note that my skin did get worse when I first started using the esp products. I had a lot of crawling sensations for the first few weeks of using the esp soap. I started taking the MMS (sodium chlorite) last weekend, but I don't think that is making a difference in my skin because I'm only up to 4 drops per day so far. myrtle > > > > > > Myrtle have you ever taken a lint brush to your skin and looked at > > it closely???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Hi, Mrytle! Agree you're onto something with the normal acid balance of healthy skin & your experiments with lime juice & apple cider vinegar along with the ESP! Aloe vera is also on the acidic pH side & is wonderful applied to the skin & taken internally. Organic oils, including essential oils & olive & coconut also have an " acidic effect " on the skin. Regarding pH of oils: " pH refers to the hydrogen ion concentration in a water solution. Olive oil and other oils are not water soluble so their acidity cannot be measured in terms of pH. Their acid content is usually measured in percent free acidity. Vegetable oils are weak acids when measured in this way. " http://tinyurl.com/5bz8pc Remembering the " acid mantle " of healthy skin & the alkaline epsom salts, borax & baking soda properties, I'm thinking the alkaline draws the junk from the skin in the bath & strips the skin in the process. To replace the protective acid mantle, the fruit acids in lime or lemon or orange juices should work well, as you've found. The aloe or oils would then recreate an acid mantle on the skin. The fruit acids also act to help remove the dead skin on the surface so moisturizers & healers can penetrate more effectively. Aloe contains a lot of sulphur & is actually a member of the garlic family. Useful against fungal & staph infections & great as a healer. Used it straight out of the bottle for years daily as a pat-on & spread moisturizer on wet skin after washing my face & often for body, as well. Remember I ran out of it right before the mitemare began & sorry now that I did! Although I got some more, I didn't start using it again because I was doing the seawater baths. Didn't replace the acid mantle or moisturize until a month later when I began the ESP New Hope routine which was the ticket for skin deep healing for me. So I'm understanding now why Trisha says to keep the Balm or Serum sealed with the lotion Bar on 24/7 anytime you're not showering, bathing, soaping or soaped up as a body masque. And the rather simple concept of removing junk from the skin & replacing the acid balance afterwards, moisturizing & sealing the barrier. Also remembering that humans cleaned with oils for most of history - their bodies & possessions. An interesting crash course on coconut oil: " What coconut oil can do for your skin it can do for your hair. It is wonderful to use as a hair conditioner. Beauticians who are familiar with coconut swear by it. It softens the hair and conditions the scalp. Using the coconut oil as a pre-wash conditioner can rid a person of dandruff better than a medicated shampoo. Antiseptic fatty acids in coconut oil help to prevent fungal and bacterial infections in the skin when it is consumed and to some extent, when it is applied directly to the skin. The only way to gain entry into the body other than through the natural openings, such as the nose and mouth, is by penetrating the skin. When the skin's defenses break down, infections can result. Acne, ringworm, herpes, boils, athlete's foot, and warts are just some of the infectious conditions that can affect the skin and body. The biggest chemical barrier to infectious organisms is the acid layer on the skin. Healthy skin has a pH of about 5, making it slightly acidic. Our sweat (containing uric and lactic acids) and body oils promote this acidic environment. For this reason, sweat and oil do us good. Harmless bacteria can tolerate the acid and live on the skin, but troublesome bacteria can't thrive and their numbers are few. The oil our bodies produce is called sebum. Sebum is secreted by oil glands (sebaceous glands) located at the root of every hair as well as other places. This oil is very important to skin health. It softens and lubricates the skin and hair and prevents the skin from drying and cracking. Sebum also contains medium chain fatty acids, in the form of medium chain triglycerides, that can be released to fight harmful germs. Our skin is home to many tiny organisms, most of which are harmless; some are beneficial. At least one variety of bacterium is essential to the healthy environment on our skin. It feeds on the sebum, breaking down the tryglycerides into free fatty acids. The bacteria actually feed on the glycerol part of the triglyceride. This leaves fatty acids which are now " freed " from the glycerol unit that held them together. Medium chain fatty acids which are bound to the glycerol unit as they are in coconut oil have no antimicrobial properties. However, when they are broken apart into free fatty acids, they become powerful antimicrobials. So these bacteria convert the medium chain triglycerides (in the sebum or on the skin) into free fatty acids that can kill disease- causing bacteria, viruses, and fungi. The combination of the slightly acid pH and medium chain fatty acids provides a protective chemical layer on the skin that prevents infection from disease- causing organisms. Due primarily to the action of bacteria, the oil on the surface of your skin and hair is composed of between 40 and 60 percent free fatty acids. The medium chain fatty acids in the sebum provide the protective layer on the skin that kills harmful germs. Coconut oil is nature's richest source of medium chain fatty acids. When coconut oil is put on the skin it doesn't have any immediate antimicrobial action. However, when bacteria which are always present on the skin turn these triglycerides into free fatty acids, just as it does with sebum, the result is an increase in the number of antimicrobial fatty acids on the skin and protection from infection. The free fatty acids also help to contribute to the acid environment on the skin which repels disease causing germs. When bathing or showering, soap washes the protective layer of oil and acid off our skin. Often afterwards the skin becomes tight and dry. Adding moisturizers helps the skin feel better, but it does not replace the acid or the protective medium chain fatty acid layers that was removed. Your skin is vulnerable to infection at this time. You would think that your body would be clean and germ-free after a bath. But germs are everywhere, floating in the air, on our clothes and everything we touch. Many germs survive washing by hiding in cracks and folds of the skin. Before long your skin is again teaming with microorganisms, both good and bad. Until sweat and oils return to reestablish the body's chemical barrier your skin is vulnerable to infection. If you have a cut or cracked skin, this can allow streptococcus, staphylococcus and other harmful germs entry into the body. " http://www.coconut-connections.com/skin_care.htm Thanks so much for sharing, Myrtle! Your posts are always a catalyst to my thinking things through & contribute immensely to my growing understanding. With each idea that falls into place in the puzzle, more of the total picture emerges. Best wishes, Sue Myrtle have you ever taken a lint brush to your skin and looked at it closely???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Hi Sue -- Thank you for the wonderfully detailed post. I ran out of esp balm this morning, but I have a jar of virgin coconut oil that I bought recently, so I'm going to try that until my next bottle of balm arrives in the mail. I'll let you know how it works. myrtle > > Myrtle have you ever taken a lint brush to your skin and looked at > it closely???? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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