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Hi Tommy,We have pulled quite a few of these "hairs" off of my hubby. He had said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite long as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of strange...TrlySent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: tommy morrow Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST)<bird mites >Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft. Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like it should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y From: Rita and Mike Carlson <m.r.carlson@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: basement nightmarebird mitesDate: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 8:59 PM Yes, that basement is going to get the full treatment this spring. Clorox, salt and oil......I think once all this dries really well I will paint the entire basement with that thick paint just meant for areas like that. I just love my life....I'm never without things to do !!!! Rita Re: Thanks for checking on us> > > Rita,> > Did you ever try the ant traps from CVS? The ones that are sugar and> > borax?> > It might be worth a try, down in the basement. If you don't have aCVS,> > I believe that Doe has a homemade recipe.> > Might be worth a try while you wait for spring.> > We are still burning the menthol in our cars....I think after youdo it> > for awhile it gets on all surfaces and into the fabric, so it works > > better the longer you use it.>

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Yes it is and it crazy.i am trying to see if this is from the mites or id\s this something else "morgellon's"? So I want to see if other people have these or what? thanks for the reply tommy From: Rita and Mike Carlson <m.r.carlson@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: basement nightmarebird mitesDate: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 8:59 PM Yes, that basement is going to get the full treatment this spring. Clorox, salt and oil......I think once all this dries really well I will paint the entire basement with that thick paint just meant for areas like that. I just love my life....I'm never without things to do !!!! Rita Re: Thanks for checking on us> > > Rita,> > Did you ever try the ant traps from CVS? The ones that are sugar and> > borax?> > It might be worth a try, down in the basement. If you don't have aCVS,> > I believe that Doe has a homemade recipe.> > Might be worth a try while you wait for spring.> > We are still burning the menthol in our cars....I think after youdo it> > for awhile it gets on all surfaces and into the fabric, so it works > > better the longer you use it.>

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You're welcome Tommy. Personally I believe it to be Morgs. according to the experiences that we have had... Good luck to you.TrlySent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: tommy morrow Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 18:31:01 -0800 (PST)<bird mites >Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs Yes it is and it crazy.i am trying to see if this is from the mites or id\s this something else "morgellon's"? So I want to see if other people have these or what? thanks for the reply tommy From: Rita and Mike Carlson <m.r.carlson@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: basement nightmarebird mitesDate: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 8:59 PM Yes, that basement is going to get the full treatment this spring. Clorox, salt and oil......I think once all this dries really well I will paint the entire basement with that thick paint just meant for areas like that. I just love my life....I'm never without things to do !!!! Rita Re: Thanks for checking on us> > > Rita,> > Did you ever try the ant traps from CVS? The ones that are sugar and> > borax?> > It might be worth a try, down in the basement. If you don't have aCVS,> > I believe that Doe has a homemade recipe.> > Might be worth a try while you wait for spring.> > We are still burning the menthol in our cars....I think after youdo it> > for awhile it gets on all surfaces and into the fabric, so it works > > better the longer you use it.>

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> > Yes, we had the ant traps out for 2 years. Each room

still has 4 in

> them. We never noticed any improvement with them. I

don't know to this

> day what was in our house but the only time we saw a drop

in numbers

> was when we " sprayed " wet solutions on them. I have

never sprayed the

> basement because I thought I could wait this bug from

hell out.. I used

> the rooms down there for storage before I understood

what I was

> dealing with. It was the biggest mistake I have made.

I just didn't

> know what I was dealing with. Another year.....ugh.

Rita

> >

> > Re: Thanks for checking on us

> >

> >

> > Rita,

> >

> > Did you ever try the ant traps from CVS? The ones

that are sugar and

> >

> > borax?

> >

> > It might be worth a try, down in the basement. If

you don't have a

> CVS,

> >

> > I believe that Doe has a homemade recipe.

> >

> > Might be worth a try while you wait for spring.

> >

> > We are still burning the menthol in our cars....I

think after you

> do it

> >

> > for awhile it gets on all surfaces and into the

fabric, so it works

> >

> > better the longer you use it.

> >

>

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thanks good info!!!From: littlescreechowl <littlescreechowl@...>Subject: Re: weird hairsbird mites Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 10:36 PM

> >

> > Yes, we had the ant traps out for 2 years. Each room

still has 4 in

> them. We never noticed any improvement with them. I

don't know to this

> day what was in our house but the only time we saw a drop

in numbers

> was when we "sprayed" wet solutions on them. I have

never sprayed the

> basement because I thought I could wait this bug from

hell out.. I used

> the rooms down there for storage before I understood

what I was

> dealing with. It was the biggest mistake I have made.

I just didn't

> know what I was dealing with. Another year.....ugh.

Rita

> >

> > Re: Thanks for checking on us

> >

> >

> > Rita,

> >

> > Did you ever try the ant traps from CVS? The ones

that are sugar and

> >

> > borax?

> >

> > It might be worth a try, down in the basement. If

you don't have a

> CVS,

> >

> > I believe that Doe has a homemade recipe.

> >

> > Might be worth a try while you wait for spring.

> >

> > We are still burning the menthol in our cars....I

think after you

> do it

> >

> > for awhile it gets on all surfaces and into the

fabric, so it works

> >

> > better the longer you use it.

> >

>

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I have read other people who have Morg's say similar things.

> >

> > Yes, we had the ant traps out for 2 years. Each room

still has 4 in

> them. We never noticed any improvement with them. I

don't know to this

> day what was in our house but the only time we saw a drop in

numbers

> was when we " sprayed " wet solutions on them. I have never

sprayed the

> basement because I thought I could wait this bug from

hell out.. I used

> the rooms down there for storage before I understood

what I was

> dealing with. It was the biggest mistake I have made. I

just didn't

> know what I was dealing with. Another year.....ugh. Rita

> >

> > Re: Thanks for checking on us

> >

> >

> > Rita,

> >

> > Did you ever try the ant traps from CVS? The ones

that are sugar and

> >

> > borax?

> >

> > It might be worth a try, down in the basement. If you

don't have a

> CVS,

> >

> > I believe that Doe has a homemade recipe.

> >

> > Might be worth a try while you wait for spring.

> >

> > We are still burning the menthol in our cars....I

think after you

> do it

> >

> > for awhile it gets on all surfaces and into the

fabric, so it works

> >

> > better the longer you use it.

> >

>

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I'm guessing the weird hairs may have something to do with the bird

mites. Aren't mites related to spiders? Could it be they are nesting

in our skin and producing some sort of webbing? I've never seen

anything like that come out of my skin (however I have poor eyesight),

but I have oftentimes felt like there were cobwebs in my skin, I call

it the cobwebby feeling. Real scientific, huh?

myrtle

> From: trlyblest@... <trlyblest@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs

> bird mites

> Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 9:17 PM

>

> Hi Tommy,

> We have pulled quite a few of these " hairs " off of my hubby. He had

said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite long

as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of

strange...

> Trly

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: tommy morrow

> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST)

> <bird mites>

> Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words

> Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft.

Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms

so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like it

should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen

this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y

>

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I think mites are arthropods (8 legs) like spiders.

Not sure about other commonalities.

KJ

> > From: trlyblest@ <trlyblest@>

> > Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs

> > bird mites

> > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 9:17 PM

> >

> > Hi Tommy,

> > We have pulled quite a few of these " hairs " off of my hubby. He

had

> said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite

long

> as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of

> strange...

> > Trly

>

> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: tommy morrow

> > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST)

> > <bird mites>

> > Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words

> > Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft.

> Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms

> so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like

it

> should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen

> this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y

> >

>

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Myrtle have you ever taken a lint brush to your skin and looked at it closely????From: myrtle_maui <myrtle_maui@...>Subject: Re: weird hairsbird mites Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 1:21 PM

I'm guessing the weird hairs may have something to do with the bird

mites. Aren't mites related to spiders? Could it be they are nesting

in our skin and producing some sort of webbing? I've never seen

anything like that come out of my skin (however I have poor eyesight),

but I have oftentimes felt like there were cobwebs in my skin, I call

it the cobwebby feeling. Real scientific, huh?

myrtle

> From: trlyblest@.. . <trlyblest@. ..>

> Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs

> bird mites

> Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 9:17 PM

>

> Hi Tommy,

> We have pulled quite a few of these "hairs" off of my hubby. He had

said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite long

as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of

strange...

> Trly

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: tommy morrow

> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST)

> <bird mites>

> Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words

> Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft.

Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms

so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like it

should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen

this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y

>

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No, I haven't. I don't have any activity on my skin anymore, but I'll

try it sometime. It would have been interesting (or scary) to do that

when I had crawlies on me.

>

> > From: trlyblest@ . <trlyblest@ ..>

>

> > Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs

>

> > bird mites

>

> > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 9:17 PM

>

> >

>

> > Hi Tommy,

>

> > We have pulled quite a few of these " hairs " off of my hubby. He had

>

> said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite long

>

> as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of

>

> strange...

>

> > Trly

>

>

>

> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: tommy morrow

>

> > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST)

>

> > <bird mites>

>

> > Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words

>

> > Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft.

>

> Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms

>

> so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like it

>

> should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen

>

> this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y

>

> >

>

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Myrtle, The more technical of us on the site call them

wispies....lol. I swear mine move around on the

weblikefeelingwispiethingies.

bob

> > From: trlyblest@ <trlyblest@>

> > Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs

> > bird mites

> > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 9:17 PM

> >

> > Hi Tommy,

> > We have pulled quite a few of these " hairs " off of my hubby. He

had

> said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite

long

> as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of

> strange...

> > Trly

>

> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: tommy morrow

> > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST)

> > <bird mites>

> > Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words

> > Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft.

> Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and arms

> so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt like

it

> should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen

> this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks to,,y

> >

>

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Myrtle,

Is this a new development? (no activity) Do you attribute it to the

ESP?

> >

> > > From: trlyblest@ . <trlyblest@ ..>

> >

> > > Subject: Re: Re: weird hairs

> >

> > > bird mites

> >

> > > Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 9:17 PM

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Hi Tommy,

> >

> > > We have pulled quite a few of these " hairs " off of my hubby. He

had

> >

> > said that they never hurt while pulling them out. They were quite

long

> >

> > as well. Some were silver in color and others were clear. Kind of

> >

> > strange...

> >

> > > Trly

> >

> >

> >

> > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & TFrom: tommy morrow

> >

> > > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:54:10 -0800 (PST)

> >

> > > <bird mites>

> >

> > > Subject: Re: Re: Thanks for the kind words

> >

> > > Yes I have seen that they are on the hair shaft.

> >

> > Rita I also seen long skinny light colored hairs on my legs and

arms

> >

> > so i pulled it out and it just came right out? It did not hurt

like it

> >

> > should when you pull a hair out of your arm. Has any one else seen

> >

> > this or had fuzz / lint ball thing stuck to your body? thanks

to,,y

> >

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Holly,

My skin has been more or less " quiet " for awhile. I wasn't having

crawlies even before I used the ESP, but it still felt wormy and

cobwebby. In particular, when I would wake up about 1am (when my next

door neighbor the sushi chef would get home from work and start loudly

fixing his dinner), I would observe my skin, and usually I had

sensations of wormy-type movement in my skin, usually in the same

areas like my underarms, scalp, and butt area. Now when I wake up in

the middle of the night, I don't feel anything, and I don't feel

anything in my skin when I wake up in the morning. The wormy

sensation inside my skin is not as bad as the crawling mites, but I

still wanted to do something about it. I had a relapse last year so I

know better than to slack off on my efforts.

I attribute my most recent progress, that of no more wormy sensations

in the skin, to the ESP products, the lime juice rub on my skin, ACV

(apple cider vinegar) baths, and possibly the epsom salt/borax/baking

soda baths. However, I don't think my skin is normal yet because it

itches quite a bit. So I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing for a

long time. Please note that my skin did get worse when I first

started using the esp products. I had a lot of crawling sensations

for the first few weeks of using the esp soap.

I started taking the MMS (sodium chlorite) last weekend, but I don't

think that is making a difference in my skin because I'm only up to 4

drops per day so far.

myrtle

> > >

> > > Myrtle have you ever taken a lint brush to your skin and looked at

> > it closely????

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Hi, Mrytle! Agree you're onto something with the normal acid balance

of healthy skin & your experiments with lime juice & apple cider

vinegar along with the ESP!

Aloe vera is also on the acidic pH side & is wonderful applied to the

skin & taken internally. Organic oils, including essential oils &

olive & coconut also have an " acidic effect " on the skin. Regarding

pH of oils:

" pH refers to the hydrogen ion concentration in a water solution.

Olive oil and other oils are not water soluble so their acidity

cannot be measured in terms of pH. Their acid content is usually

measured in percent free acidity. Vegetable oils are weak acids when

measured in this way. " http://tinyurl.com/5bz8pc

Remembering the " acid mantle " of healthy skin & the alkaline epsom

salts, borax & baking soda properties, I'm thinking the alkaline

draws the junk from the skin in the bath & strips the skin in the

process. To replace the protective acid mantle, the fruit acids in

lime or lemon or orange juices should work well, as you've found. The

aloe or oils would then recreate an acid mantle on the skin. The

fruit acids also act to help remove the dead skin on the surface so

moisturizers & healers can penetrate more effectively.

Aloe contains a lot of sulphur & is actually a member of the garlic

family. Useful against fungal & staph infections & great as a healer.

Used it straight out of the bottle for years daily as a pat-on &

spread moisturizer on wet skin after washing my face & often for

body, as well. Remember I ran out of it right before the mitemare

began & sorry now that I did! Although I got some more, I didn't

start using it again because I was doing the seawater baths. Didn't

replace the acid mantle or moisturize until a month later when I

began the ESP New Hope routine which was the ticket for skin deep

healing for me.

So I'm understanding now why Trisha says to keep the Balm or Serum

sealed with the lotion Bar on 24/7 anytime you're not showering,

bathing, soaping or soaped up as a body masque. And the rather simple

concept of removing junk from the skin & replacing the acid balance

afterwards, moisturizing & sealing the barrier. Also remembering that

humans cleaned with oils for most of history - their bodies &

possessions.

An interesting crash course on coconut oil:

" What coconut oil can do for your skin it can do for your hair. It

is wonderful to use as a hair conditioner. Beauticians who are

familiar with coconut swear by it. It softens the hair and

conditions the scalp. Using the coconut oil as a pre-wash

conditioner can rid a person of dandruff better than a medicated

shampoo.

Antiseptic fatty acids in coconut oil help to prevent fungal and

bacterial infections in the skin when it is consumed and to some

extent, when it is applied directly to the skin. The only way to

gain entry into the body other than through the natural openings,

such as the nose and mouth, is by penetrating the skin. When the

skin's defenses break down, infections can result. Acne, ringworm,

herpes, boils, athlete's foot, and warts are just some of the

infectious conditions that can affect the skin and body.

The biggest chemical barrier to infectious organisms is the acid

layer on the skin. Healthy skin has a pH of about 5, making it

slightly acidic. Our sweat (containing uric and lactic acids) and

body oils promote this acidic environment. For this reason, sweat

and oil do us good. Harmless bacteria can tolerate the acid and live

on the skin, but troublesome bacteria can't thrive and their numbers

are few.

The oil our bodies produce is called sebum. Sebum is secreted by oil

glands (sebaceous glands) located at the root of every hair as well

as other places. This oil is very important to skin health. It

softens and lubricates the skin and hair and prevents the skin from

drying and cracking. Sebum also contains medium chain fatty acids,

in the form of medium chain triglycerides, that can be released to

fight harmful germs.

Our skin is home to many tiny organisms, most of which are harmless;

some are beneficial. At least one variety of bacterium is essential

to the healthy environment on our skin. It feeds on the sebum,

breaking down the tryglycerides into free fatty acids. The bacteria

actually feed on the glycerol part of the triglyceride. This leaves

fatty acids which are now " freed " from the glycerol unit that held

them together. Medium chain fatty acids which are bound to the

glycerol unit as they are in coconut oil have no antimicrobial

properties. However, when they are broken apart into free fatty

acids, they become powerful antimicrobials.

So these bacteria convert the medium chain triglycerides (in the

sebum or on the skin) into free fatty acids that can kill disease-

causing bacteria, viruses, and fungi. The combination of the

slightly acid pH and medium chain fatty acids provides a protective

chemical layer on the skin that prevents infection from disease-

causing organisms. Due primarily to the action of bacteria, the oil

on the surface of your skin and hair is composed of between 40 and 60

percent free fatty acids. The medium chain fatty acids in the sebum

provide the protective layer on the skin that kills harmful germs.

Coconut oil is nature's richest source of medium chain fatty acids.

When coconut oil is put on the skin it doesn't have any immediate

antimicrobial action. However, when bacteria which are always

present on the skin turn these triglycerides into free fatty acids,

just as it does with sebum, the result is an increase in the number

of antimicrobial fatty acids on the skin and protection from

infection. The free fatty acids also help to contribute to the acid

environment on the skin which repels disease causing germs.

When bathing or showering, soap washes the protective layer of oil

and acid off our skin. Often afterwards the skin becomes tight and

dry. Adding moisturizers helps the skin feel better, but it does not

replace the acid or the protective medium chain fatty acid layers

that was removed. Your skin is vulnerable to infection at this time.

You would think that your body would be clean and germ-free after a

bath. But germs are everywhere, floating in the air, on our clothes

and everything we touch. Many germs survive washing by hiding in

cracks and folds of the skin. Before long your skin is again teaming

with microorganisms, both good and bad. Until sweat and oils return

to reestablish the body's chemical barrier your skin is vulnerable to

infection. If you have a cut or cracked skin, this can allow

streptococcus, staphylococcus and other harmful germs entry into the

body. " http://www.coconut-connections.com/skin_care.htm

Thanks so much for sharing, Myrtle! Your posts are always a catalyst

to my thinking things through & contribute immensely to my growing

understanding. With each idea that falls into place in the puzzle,

more of the total picture emerges.

Best wishes, Sue

Myrtle have you ever taken a lint brush to your skin and looked at

it closely????

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Hi Sue -- Thank you for the wonderfully detailed post. I ran out of

esp balm this morning, but I have a jar of virgin coconut oil that I

bought recently, so I'm going to try that until my next bottle of balm

arrives in the mail. I'll let you know how it works.

myrtle

>

> Myrtle have you ever taken a lint brush to your skin and looked at

> it closely????

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