Re: The Dermatologist Route (Ok, I went today)

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So I went to the dermatologist today and got the diagnosis I was

hoping to avoid: ALLERGIES

Apparently, I have heightened level of histamines b/c when the doc

took a pen and drew out a tic tac toe board on my forearm (not

actually drawing w/ ink), the skin turned red where he went over

it. He did it to himself and his skin did not turn red. I told him

that I have crawling, biting, and stinging sensations that started

when I bought a car and the owner is a dog owner and rescues dogs.

I suggested dog scabies, to which he quickly shot down saying that

dog scabies can't live on humans for more than a week. " You don't

have bugs and your car doesn't either " is what he said. He knows my

car doesn't have bugs b/c he's actually sat in it, right?

I showed him a big zit looking thing on my chest and he did scrape

it but it showed up as negative for scabies, which only strengthened

his diagnosis more. So I got prescribed two anti-histamines.

Tagamet and Z-something (not Zyrtec). I'm supposed to take them for

6 weeks.

" We have patients come in all the time thinking they have bugs but

it's not bugs " .

I didn't say anything back to him but thinking later, I

wondered " and how many of those patients did you actually cure? "

But wait, the doc did say the symptoms can last indefinitely... so

my assumption is that for those that don't have allergies, they

continue to suffer thinking they have allergies and nothing they

take is working. Poor souls.

Not once did I mention morgs or fibers. Since he already doesn't

believe I had bugs, it was pointless to talk further about my

condition and risk him thinking I was a nutcase.

I might be done with the doctor route. I was not lucky enough to

run into a doctor who may have had experience with these things and

I don't think I can patiently go through 10 doctors before finding

the one that may be able to help. I did want to rule out scabies

though (at least the human kind) and at least we ruled that out. My

sister suggested trying to find an infectious disease doctor and not

a dermatologist. Either way, I might be done. I will focus more on

praying.

Right or wrong, the diagnosis from doctors mess with your head and

erode your confidence. Has there ever been anyone on this forum

that thought they had bugs but really had allergies instead and were

cured by taking anti-histamines? Of course I doubt myself whether

the last 3 month fighting these bugs was all caused by allergies.

Oh don't I wish it was that easy! But then how do you explain me

getting biting/stinging sensations everytime I rode that car? How

do you explain the crawlies? How do you explain ppl around me

starting to scratch themselves madly and the more crawlies I have,

the more they scratch. How do you explain the relief I get when I'm

taking a shower/bath or when I had just done a knock down in the

house? How do you explain these strange lint fiber balls? (these

lint balls are the greatest mystery of all!)

> > > >

> > > > So googling around for collembola, I found this mold

inspection

> > > > company:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.njmoldinspection.com/pediculosis/collembola.html

> > > >

> > > > The webpage says " IT'S NOT A DELUSIONAL PARISITOSIS BUT

MICROSCOPIC

> > > > COLLEMBOLA PRESENT WITH MOLD INFESTIONS " .

> > > >

> > > > This gave me hope. Although I don't live in the NY/Tri-

state area,

> > > > maybe I could talk to someone there.

> > > >

> > > > So I called and this guy answered the phone (forget his

name).

> > > > He was very generous even after I told him I don't live in

the

> > > > area.

> > > >

> > > > I told him briefly my story, that I picked up these bugs

from a

> > > used

> > > > car and I get biting and crawling sensations.

> > > >

> > > > Here's when all hope went out the window. He told me that

I'm

> > > > probably dealing with some type of allergy and not

collembola b/c

> > > > collembola typically don't follow ppl into the house. He

asked

> > > > whether I live in a humid or dry place. I said very dry b/c

I have

> > > > a dehumidifier running. He said it's probably allergy b/c

> > > > collembola usually breed in damp places.

> > > >

> > > > He asked me whether I've seen a doctor, whether I've been to

a

> > > > dermatologist. I told him I had not. He said I need to go

see one

> > > > b/c they know all about skin conditions. I suggested that

ppl that

> > > > often go to a doctor are written off as imagining things or

crazy

> > > > and I suggested some other type of bugs like bird mites. I

also

> > > > told him that this all started when I bought a used car

infested

> > > > with something. He said he's trained in allertology and

dermotolgy

> > > > and the only thing he kept telling me was to go see a

dermatologist

> > > > b/c they know best and they will be able to figure out what

I have

> > > > and don't have.

> > > >

> > > > He also kept saying that it could also be some kind of an

allergy I

> > > > picked up - perhaps there are stuff in my clothes like

fiberglass

> > > or

> > > > silicone. I told him again that this started after I bought

the

> > > > used car. He said that the last thing he wants to do is to

tell

> > > ppl

> > > > they need to have their home inspected (OK, to that point,

he's

> > > > being honest and good). However, it was obvious that he did

not

> > > > want to give me the benefit of doubt that I'm dealing with

> > > > mites/collembola/whatever until I've seen a doctor. So I

said,

> > > > thank you and ended the call. I'm not bashing the guy or

I'm not

> > > > being angry b/c he didn't let me hear what I wanted to

hear. In

> > > > fact, I appreciate the fact he took the 8 min out of his day

to

> > > talk

> > > > to a guy when he knew there was no money in it for him. I'm

just a

> > > > bit deflated after having some hope going into the call.

> > > >

> > > > Ok, I'm open to seeing a doctor. I really want them to

scrape my

> > > > skin and find something (or not). But I just don't want to

go and

> > > > speak to a wall, having to tell my story and them labelling

me as

> > > > having delusional paratosis or writing me off as " uh oh,

another

> > > > morg guy with a matchbox syndrome " . Really, what do you guys

> > > > suggest? I wish I can find an open-minded dermatologist

who'll be

> > > > able to listen.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Just incredible. So ALLERGIES is the new delusional parasitosis. It's

foolproof. They can stay within the little carefully protected

parameters of their comfort zone. They say that symptoms persist

indefinitely, so they have to look no further. And we're basically off

their radar. Brilliant.

I could go postal. I could, I could.

Kihun, we would all be so relieved if antihistimines or antipsychotic

meds would relieve this. Don't be undermined. What you are observing,

from the initial cause to the myriad of symptoms, does not add up to

allergies! It's possible that the antihistimines will lesson your

reaction to the bites. It won't stop or prevent them.

Darlita, where is your doctor? We will come by road, rail, or air.

Funny coincidence: Last night a friend related an incident in which

someone with a serious breakout over much of her body went to a local

emergency room. The ER doctor was from India. He diagnosed internal

parasites. She was puzzled, went to the student health center the next

day, was told it was a food allergy, given an antihistimine, and is

fine. Actually, I could find that Indian doctor, couldn't I. Sewanee

Tennessee. He is obviously experienced, even if he probably made a

mistake in this case.

ES

> > > > >

> > > > > So googling around for collembola, I found this mold

> inspection

> > > > > company:

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.njmoldinspection.com/pediculosis/collembola.html

> > > > >

> > > > > The webpage says " IT'S NOT A DELUSIONAL PARISITOSIS BUT

> MICROSCOPIC

> > > > > COLLEMBOLA PRESENT WITH MOLD INFESTIONS " .

> > > > >

> > > > > This gave me hope. Although I don't live in the NY/Tri-

> state area,

> > > > > maybe I could talk to someone there.

> > > > >

> > > > > So I called and this guy answered the phone (forget his

> name).

> > > > > He was very generous even after I told him I don't live in

> the

> > > > > area.

> > > > >

> > > > > I told him briefly my story, that I picked up these bugs

> from a

> > > > used

> > > > > car and I get biting and crawling sensations.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here's when all hope went out the window. He told me that

> I'm

> > > > > probably dealing with some type of allergy and not

> collembola b/c

> > > > > collembola typically don't follow ppl into the house. He

> asked

> > > > > whether I live in a humid or dry place. I said very dry b/c

> I have

> > > > > a dehumidifier running. He said it's probably allergy b/c

> > > > > collembola usually breed in damp places.

> > > > >

> > > > > He asked me whether I've seen a doctor, whether I've been to

> a

> > > > > dermatologist. I told him I had not. He said I need to go

> see one

> > > > > b/c they know all about skin conditions. I suggested that

> ppl that

> > > > > often go to a doctor are written off as imagining things or

> crazy

> > > > > and I suggested some other type of bugs like bird mites. I

> also

> > > > > told him that this all started when I bought a used car

> infested

> > > > > with something. He said he's trained in allertology and

> dermotolgy

> > > > > and the only thing he kept telling me was to go see a

> dermatologist

> > > > > b/c they know best and they will be able to figure out what

> I have

> > > > > and don't have.

> > > > >

> > > > > He also kept saying that it could also be some kind of an

> allergy I

> > > > > picked up - perhaps there are stuff in my clothes like

> fiberglass

> > > > or

> > > > > silicone. I told him again that this started after I bought

> the

> > > > > used car. He said that the last thing he wants to do is to

> tell

> > > > ppl

> > > > > they need to have their home inspected (OK, to that point,

> he's

> > > > > being honest and good). However, it was obvious that he did

> not

> > > > > want to give me the benefit of doubt that I'm dealing with

> > > > > mites/collembola/whatever until I've seen a doctor. So I

> said,

> > > > > thank you and ended the call. I'm not bashing the guy or

> I'm not

> > > > > being angry b/c he didn't let me hear what I wanted to

> hear. In

> > > > > fact, I appreciate the fact he took the 8 min out of his day

> to

> > > > talk

> > > > > to a guy when he knew there was no money in it for him. I'm

> just a

> > > > > bit deflated after having some hope going into the call.

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok, I'm open to seeing a doctor. I really want them to

> scrape my

> > > > > skin and find something (or not). But I just don't want to

> go and

> > > > > speak to a wall, having to tell my story and them labelling

> me as

> > > > > having delusional paratosis or writing me off as " uh oh,

> another

> > > > > morg guy with a matchbox syndrome " . Really, what do you guys

> > > > > suggest? I wish I can find an open-minded dermatologist

> who'll be

> > > > > able to listen.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

ALLERGIES, HUH? THE OLD STAND-BY DIAGNOSIS...THEIR CATCH-ALL! And I bet he was writing out ur prescription with a pen with the name of ONE of those antihistamines he was prescribing...you know the ones the drug reps leave along with all the other goodies, mugs, stuff with their name on it.... sorry, you had to go to him,K, wish it would have been the 'right' one to help you. We will figure it all out, dont get discouraged! chasity> > > > > >> > > > > > So googling around for collembola, I found this mold> > inspection> > > > > > company:> > > > > >> > > > > > http://www.njmoldinspection.com/pediculosis/collembola.html> > > > > >> > > > > > The webpage says "IT'S NOT A DELUSIONAL PARISITOSIS BUT> > MICROSCOPIC> > > > > > COLLEMBOLA PRESENT WITH MOLD INFESTIONS".> > > > > >> > > > > > This gave me hope. Although I don't live in the NY/Tri-> > state area,> > > > > > maybe I could talk to someone there.> > > > > >> > > > > > So I called and this guy answered the phone (forget his> > name).> > > > > > He was very generous even after I told him I don't live in> > the> > > > > > area.> > > > > >> > > > > > I told him briefly my story, that I picked up these bugs> > from a> > > > > used> > > > > > car and I get biting and crawling sensations.> > > > > >> > > > > > Here's when all hope went out the window. He told me that> > I'm> > > > > > probably dealing with some type of allergy and not> > collembola b/c> > > > > > collembola typically don't follow ppl into the house. He> > asked> > > > > > whether I live in a humid or dry place. I said very dry b/c> > I have> > > > > > a dehumidifier running. He said it's probably allergy b/c> > > > > > collembola usually breed in damp places.> > > > > >> > > > > > He asked me whether I've seen a doctor, whether I've been to> > a> > > > > > dermatologist. I told him I had not. He said I need to go> > see one> > > > > > b/c they know all about skin conditions. I suggested that> > ppl that> > > > > > often go to a doctor are written off as imagining things or> > crazy> > > > > > and I suggested some other type of bugs like bird mites. I> > also> > > > > > told him that this all started when I bought a used car> > infested> > > > > > with something. He said he's trained in allertology and> > dermotolgy> > > > > > and the only thing he kept telling me was to go see a> > dermatologist> > > > > > b/c they know best and they will be able to figure out what> > I have> > > > > > and don't have.> > > > > >> > > > > > He also kept saying that it could also be some kind of an> > allergy I> > > > > > picked up - perhaps there are stuff in my clothes like> > fiberglass> > > > > or> > > > > > silicone. I told him again that this started after I bought> > the> > > > > > used car. He said that the last thing he wants to do is to> > tell> > > > > ppl> > > > > > they need to have their home inspected (OK, to that point,> > he's> > > > > > being honest and good). However, it was obvious that he did> > not> > > > > > want to give me the benefit of doubt that I'm dealing with> > > > > > mites/collembola/whatever until I've seen a doctor. So I> > said,> > > > > > thank you and ended the call. I'm not bashing the guy or> > I'm not> > > > > > being angry b/c he didn't let me hear what I wanted to> > hear. In> > > > > > fact, I appreciate the fact he took the 8 min out of his day> > to> > > > > talk> > > > > > to a guy when he knew there was no money in it for him. I'm> > just a> > > > > > bit deflated after having some hope going into the call.> > > > > >> > > > > > Ok, I'm open to seeing a doctor. I really want them to> > scrape my> > > > > > skin and find something (or not). But I just don't want to> > go and> > > > > > speak to a wall, having to tell my story and them labelling> > me as> > > > > > having delusional paratosis or writing me off as "uh oh,> > another> > > > > > morg guy with a matchbox syndrome". Really, what do you guys> > > > > > suggest? I wish I can find an open-minded dermatologist> > who'll be> > > > > > able to listen.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>