Re: Generic Boric Acid vs Roach Prufe

[Guest guest]

Sorry about your friend, Joe -

I have to ask - was he bothered by these things also? And was his

overdose with valium? I ask because I recall from my years working

in mental health that fatal overdoses with valium are rare and

difficult. I am guessing it was intentional, unless he was drinking

along with the valium.

Sorry if I am being too inquisitive. I just wonder how many people

are actually driven to that extreme with this. I remember Willow

saying that she had a near-successful attempt some years ago.

Thanks,

Bessie

>

> Finally got some genuine Roach Prufe this afternoon. It hasn't been

> long enough for me do do a real comparison as to the effects, or

lack

> thereof. However, I have noticed some tactile contrasts: Roach Prufe

> is more of a refined powder. It's pulverized quite a bit more than

the

> boric acid I've been getting from Lowes. I can't measure it

> scientifically, but I've used both candidates in the same makeshift

> duster(baby powder bottle). When I shake it... I feel the difference

> in the vibration. Also, the sound of the generic, while shaking is

> more raspy. The most striking indicator of the Roach Prufe's

fineness,

> was the hanging cloud in the area, 45 mins post-application. I tried

> both powders in separate rooms; cut the lights and used a flashlight

> to test the air-quality. Ok, so I've established my belief that

Roach

> Prufe is

> a finer powder. Here's the dark humor part- The color of RP is

exactly

> the same as Valium. I thought of my old friend, with whom I shared a

> house for some time.(He died from an overdose, some years back. RIP)

> Anyway, he was a freak, and used to pulverize Valiums to snort up

his

> nose, like cocaine. Very off-topic, that----but, I can't

sleep, 'cause

> of certain little beasties. I'll let you folks know if the blue

powder

> works for me.

> joe

>

[Guest guest]

I've put 20 mule team Borax (boric acid)in my carpet to stop the

critters and it worked. Then I pulled out my carpet and installed

Pergo (laminated flooring)and the critters were back from the floor.

They weren't as bad as when I had carpet but still there. When I put

borax on the Pergo it didn't help at all. I concluded that it must be

the grandular shape from the borax particles getting into the moving

parts of the critters that stopped them. The acid of borax is mild

and may have nothing to do with stopping the critters. I was also

wondering if the blue color of Roach Profe is a metal that causes the

electrical charge. WTG

>

> Finally got some genuine Roach Prufe this afternoon. It hasn't been

> long enough for me do do a real comparison as to the effects, or

lack

> thereof. However, I have noticed some tactile contrasts: Roach Prufe

> is more of a refined powder. It's pulverized quite a bit more than

the

> boric acid I've been getting from Lowes. I can't measure it

> scientifically, but I've used both candidates in the same makeshift

> duster(baby powder bottle). When I shake it... I feel the difference

> in the vibration. Also, the sound of the generic, while shaking is

> more raspy. The most striking indicator of the Roach Prufe's

fineness,

> was the hanging cloud in the area, 45 mins post-application. I tried

> both powders in separate rooms; cut the lights and used a flashlight

> to test the air-quality. Ok, so I've established my belief that

Roach

> Prufe is

> a finer powder. Here's the dark humor part- The color of RP is

exactly

> the same as Valium. I thought of my old friend, with whom I shared a

> house for some time.(He died from an overdose, some years back. RIP)

> Anyway, he was a freak, and used to pulverize Valiums to snort up

his

> nose, like cocaine. Very off-topic, that----but, I can't

sleep, 'cause

> of certain little beasties. I'll let you folks know if the blue

powder

> works for me.

> joe

>

[Guest guest]

I was wondering the same thing. Could it perhaps be cobalt? Blue color due to bismuth? Contains arsenic.

"The halogen compounds of cobalt are cobalt(II) fluoride (CoF2) cobalt(II) chloride (CoCl2) cobalt(II) bromide (CoBr2) cobalt(II) iodide (CoI2) and cobalt(III) fluoride (CoF3). Cobalt(II) chloride is commonly found as an indicator

of dryness in silica gel beads used as a desiccant. Anhydrous cobalt(II) chloride is blue, while the hexahydrate is red."

WikipediaFrito

From: wtgwilliamthegreat <gibson-w@...>bird mites Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:04:51 PMSubject: Re: Generic Boric Acid vs Roach Prufe

I've put 20 mule team Borax (boric acid)in my carpet to stop the critters and it worked. Then I pulled out my carpet and installed Pergo (laminated flooring)and the critters were back from the floor. They weren't as bad as when I had carpet but still there. When I put borax on the Pergo it didn't help at all. I concluded that it must be the grandular shape from the borax particles getting into the moving parts of the critters that stopped them. The acid of borax is mild and may have nothing to do with stopping the critters. I was also wondering if the blue color of Roach Profe is a metal that causes the electrical charge. WTG >> Finally got some genuine Roach Prufe this afternoon. It hasn't

been> long enough for me do do a real comparison as to the effects, or lack> thereof. However, I have noticed some tactile contrasts: Roach Prufe> is more of a refined powder. It's pulverized quite a bit more than the> boric acid I've been getting from Lowes. I can't measure it> scientifically, but I've used both candidates in the same makeshift> duster(baby powder bottle). When I shake it... I feel the difference> in the vibration. Also, the sound of the generic, while shaking is> more raspy. The most striking indicator of the Roach Prufe's fineness,> was the hanging cloud in the area, 45 mins post-application. I tried> both powders in separate rooms; cut the lights and used a flashlight> to test the air-quality. Ok, so I've established my belief that Roach> Prufe is > a finer powder. Here's the dark humor part- The color of RP is

exactly> the same as Valium. I thought of my old friend, with whom I shared a> house for some time.(He died from an overdose, some years back. RIP)> Anyway, he was a freak, and used to pulverize Valiums to snort up his> nose, like cocaine. Very off-topic, that----but, I can't sleep, 'cause> of certain little beasties. I'll let you folks know if the blue powder> works for me.> joe>

[Guest guest]

Bessie- My friend died from an overdose of Heroin mixed with Valium. It was rather off-topic, and I probably shouldn't have mentioned it. I was just struck when I saw the color; and it being powder, It triggered a strong memory. He was not plagued by mites....just addiction. You do bring up a pertinent point: These bugs will drive one to extremes. I'd struggled with depression and anxiety even before these little amigos came to stay with me; But now the situation is just surreal. If things do not improve soon, I will check back in to Laureate (Tulsa Psychiatric hosp.) I say check back in, 'cause I've had a couple close calls previously, and really thought that I was stronger now. These bird mites will try even a mentally strong person. It's hard to know what to do though. If I stay in the hospital for a couple of weeks..... they'll just be in my house waiting for me. From what I've read, they can go for a couple of months without a bloodmeal. For now.... I continue to fight. Going back 'cross town for more Roach Prufe. Joe> >> > Finally got some genuine Roach Prufe this afternoon. It hasn't been> > long enough for me do do a real comparison as to the effects, or > lack> > thereof. However, I have noticed some tactile contrasts: Roach Prufe> > is more of a refined powder. It's pulverized quite a bit more than > the> > boric acid I've been getting from Lowes. I can't measure it> > scientifically, but I've used both candidates in the same makeshift> > duster(baby powder bottle). When I shake it... I feel the difference> > in the vibration. Also, the sound of the generic, while shaking is> > more raspy. The most striking indicator of the Roach Prufe's > fineness,> > was the hanging cloud in the area, 45 mins post-application. I tried> > both powders in separate rooms; cut the lights and used a flashlight> > to test the air-quality. Ok, so I've established my belief that > Roach> > Prufe is > > a finer powder. Here's the dark humor part- The color of RP is > exactly> > the same as Valium. I thought of my old friend, with whom I shared a> > house for some time.(He died from an overdose, some years back. RIP)> > Anyway, he was a freak, and used to pulverize Valiums to snort up > his> > nose, like cocaine. Very off-topic, that----but, I can't > sleep, 'cause> > of certain little beasties. I'll let you folks know if the blue > powder> > works for me.> > joe> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joe good call on the color it is strange.

any side effects?, my spine in vibrating , strangest thing i ever felt, it is like a tunning fork is against it , right where i broke my tailbone, twice...

Thanks, Bill

From: lincoln_joe <lincoln_joe@...>Subject: Re: Generic Boric Acid vs Roach Prufebird mites Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 3:32 PM

Bessie- My friend died from an overdose of Heroin mixed with Valium. It was rather off-topic, and I probably shouldn't have mentioned it. I was just struck when I saw the color; and it being powder, It triggered a strong memory. He was not plagued by mites....just addiction. You do bring up a pertinent point: These bugs will drive one to extremes. I'd struggled with depression and anxiety even before these little amigos came to stay with me; But now the situation is just surreal. If things do not improve soon, I will check back in to Laureate (Tulsa Psychiatric hosp.) I say check back in, 'cause I've had a couple close calls previously, and really thought that I was stronger now. These bird mites will try even a mentally strong person. It's hard to know what to do though. If I stay in the hospital for a couple of weeks..... they'll just be in my house waiting for me. From what I've read, they

can go for a couple of months without a bloodmeal. For now.... I continue to fight. Going back 'cross town for more Roach Prufe. Joe> >> > Finally got some genuine Roach Prufe this afternoon. It hasn't been> > long enough for me do do a real comparison as to the effects, or > lack> > thereof. However, I have noticed some tactile contrasts: Roach Prufe> > is more of a refined powder. It's pulverized quite a bit more than > the> > boric acid I've been getting from Lowes. I can't measure it> > scientifically, but I've used both candidates in the same makeshift> > duster(baby powder bottle). When I shake it... I feel the difference> > in the vibration. Also, the sound of the generic, while shaking is> > more raspy. The most striking indicator of the Roach Prufe's > fineness,> > was the

hanging cloud in the area, 45 mins post-application. I tried> > both powders in separate rooms; cut the lights and used a flashlight> > to test the air-quality. Ok, so I've established my belief that > Roach> > Prufe is > > a finer powder. Here's the dark humor part- The color of RP is > exactly> > the same as Valium. I thought of my old friend, with whom I shared a> > house for some time.(He died from an overdose, some years back. RIP)> > Anyway, he was a freak, and used to pulverize Valiums to snort up > his> > nose, like cocaine. Very off-topic, that----but, I can't > sleep, 'cause> > of certain little beasties. I'll let you folks know if the blue > powder> > works for me.> > joe> >>

[Guest guest]

WTG -- You probably already know this, but for the benefit of others

reading this, Mule Team borax is almost 100% borax, and borax is not

the same thing as boric acid. Borax is a salt of boric acid. They

are chemically related, but not the same. Borax is commonly used as a

laundry booster, and boric acid is commonly used as a roach killer.

With Pergo flooring, you can either get the type that you glue down,

or the type that is floating. If you have the floating Pergo, perhaps

the mites are living underneath the pergo? I have hardwood floors,

glued down plank by plank, and I had a mite infestation for several

months before I finally got rid of them through a combination of steam

cleaning and using Cedarcide's Best Yet Insect Spray.

myrtle

> >

> > Finally got some genuine Roach Prufe this afternoon. It hasn't been

> > long enough for me do do a real comparison as to the effects, or

> lack

> > thereof. However, I have noticed some tactile contrasts: Roach Prufe

> > is more of a refined powder. It's pulverized quite a bit more than

> the

> > boric acid I've been getting from Lowes. I can't measure it

> > scientifically, but I've used both candidates in the same makeshift

> > duster(baby powder bottle). When I shake it... I feel the difference

> > in the vibration. Also, the sound of the generic, while shaking is

> > more raspy. The most striking indicator of the Roach Prufe's

> fineness,

> > was the hanging cloud in the area, 45 mins post-application. I tried

> > both powders in separate rooms; cut the lights and used a flashlight

> > to test the air-quality. Ok, so I've established my belief that

> Roach

> > Prufe is

> > a finer powder. Here's the dark humor part- The color of RP is

> exactly

> > the same as Valium. I thought of my old friend, with whom I shared a

> > house for some time.(He died from an overdose, some years back. RIP)

> > Anyway, he was a freak, and used to pulverize Valiums to snort up

> his

> > nose, like cocaine. Very off-topic, that----but, I can't

> sleep, 'cause

> > of certain little beasties. I'll let you folks know if the blue

> powder

> > works for me.

> > joe

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Bill -- please be careful if you're putting roach prufe on your skin.

It is supposed to be safe if used correctly (which I believe means if

you follow the directions), but that does not include putting it on

your skin. Maybe Rita has an iron constitution and can handle putting

various chemicals on her skin, but some people can get very sick and

possibly get kidney damage by putting boric acid on their skin.

your friend,

myrtle

> > >

> > > Finally got some genuine Roach Prufe this afternoon. It hasn't been

> > > long enough for me do do a real comparison as to the effects, or

> > lack

> > > thereof. However, I have noticed some tactile contrasts: Roach Prufe

> > > is more of a refined powder. It's pulverized quite a bit more than

> > the

> > > boric acid I've been getting from Lowes. I can't measure it

> > > scientifically, but I've used both candidates in the same makeshift

> > > duster(baby powder bottle). When I shake it... I feel the difference

> > > in the vibration. Also, the sound of the generic, while shaking is

> > > more raspy. The most striking indicator of the Roach Prufe's

> > fineness,

> > > was the hanging cloud in the area, 45 mins post-application. I tried

> > > both powders in separate rooms; cut the lights and used a flashlight

> > > to test the air-quality. Ok, so I've established my belief that

> > Roach

> > > Prufe is

> > > a finer powder. Here's the dark humor part- The color of RP is

> > exactly

> > > the same as Valium. I thought of my old friend, with whom I shared a

> > > house for some time.(He died from an overdose, some years back. RIP)

> > > Anyway, he was a freak, and used to pulverize Valiums to snort up

> > his

> > > nose, like cocaine. Very off-topic, that----but, I can't

> > sleep, 'cause

> > > of certain little beasties. I'll let you folks know if the blue

> > powder

> > > works for me.

> > > joe

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Myrtle, Both Borax and Boric acid can be used as an insect pest

control. Also both can be used as a cleaning agent. That's why I put

Boric acid in parenthisis. My Pergo snaps together with padding

already attached to the bottom (easy). What mite did you find under

the floor of your house after steaming and spraying?

WTG................

> > >

> > > Finally got some genuine Roach Prufe this afternoon. It hasn't

been

> > > long enough for me do do a real comparison as to the effects,

or

> > lack

> > > thereof. However, I have noticed some tactile contrasts: Roach

Prufe

> > > is more of a refined powder. It's pulverized quite a bit more

than

> > the

> > > boric acid I've been getting from Lowes. I can't measure it

> > > scientifically, but I've used both candidates in the same

makeshift

> > > duster(baby powder bottle). When I shake it... I feel the

difference

> > > in the vibration. Also, the sound of the generic, while shaking

is

> > > more raspy. The most striking indicator of the Roach Prufe's

> > fineness,

> > > was the hanging cloud in the area, 45 mins post-application. I

tried

> > > both powders in separate rooms; cut the lights and used a

flashlight

> > > to test the air-quality. Ok, so I've established my belief that

> > Roach

> > > Prufe is

> > > a finer powder. Here's the dark humor part- The color of RP is

> > exactly

> > > the same as Valium. I thought of my old friend, with whom I

shared a

> > > house for some time.(He died from an overdose, some years back.

RIP)

> > > Anyway, he was a freak, and used to pulverize Valiums to snort

up

> > his

> > > nose, like cocaine. Very off-topic, that----but, I can't

> > sleep, 'cause

> > > of certain little beasties. I'll let you folks know if the blue

> > powder

> > > works for me.

> > > joe

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have found no bugs underneath my flooring. My flooring is glued to

the concrete slab and I don't think any bugs can get in there. I was

thinking that mites may be able to get underneath pergo and that may

be why the borax didn't help when you sprinkled it on the floor. Just

a thought.

myrtle

> > >

> > > I've put 20 mule team Borax (boric acid)in my carpet to stop the

> > > critters and it worked. Then I pulled out my carpet and installed

> > > Pergo (laminated flooring)and the critters were back from the

> floor.

> > > They weren't as bad as when I had carpet but still there. When I

> put

> > > borax on the Pergo it didn't help at all. I concluded that it

> must be

> > > the grandular shape from the borax particles getting into the

> moving

> > > parts of the critters that stopped them. The acid of borax is

> mild

> > > and may have nothing to do with stopping the critters. I was also

> > > wondering if the blue color of Roach Profe is a metal that causes

> the

> > > electrical charge. WTG