Re: Living with them--only till I can LICK 'em!!!

[Guest guest]

What exactly is pink oil? How do you use it. Where do you buy it?

Thank you.

>

>

> My critter journey began in 1985 with various incidents that

probably

> introduced the various species that now call me home. However, it

was in

> the late 90's that found me tortured on my feet and legs at work

with up

> to two innoculations a minute (this group calls them stings, so in

> future I will, too. both names are apt). At the same time, I was

> experiencing the most personal invasions at night. Sleep was

impossible.

> I was exhausted, terrified, raped by something I could not even

see, and

> I was powerless.

> I became suicidal and realizing that, sought professional help.

The

> counseling was useless, because of course my shrink didn't believe

me,

> but the Seroquel he prescribed (an antipsychotic, great name, huh?)

let

> me get some sleep despite the continual ultimate assaults.

> Simultaneously I was spending much more money than I had buying

and

> trying every chemical from every shelf: beauty, skin care, shaving,

> cleaning, pest control, lawn care... you name it, I patch tested it.

> More than once I have taken a Sharpie marker and drawn a grid on my

arm,

> then drawn the same grid on paper, and tried something different in

> every square like the allergists do.

> Bill, I didn't have the guts to use the fertilizer...Rita, I did

use

> Raid. On everything. The purple foggers and spray. Well, I didn't

use it

> on my body, but I used it on everything else, and constantly. It is

a

> wonder I am still here.

> I too found safe2use and began using the enzyme cleaner with

> peppermint prior to lice combing whatever it was that lived in my

scalp.

> I tried many more things: bathing and showering techniques,

tools,

> products, and I have been equally creative there. I discovered how

many

> things have ammonia in them. I learned that mixing Borax with Enzyme

> Cleaner produces an ammonia smell, and thus probably actually IS

> ammonia...

> My goddaughter uses Pink Oil, and one day I read the ingredients

and

> bought some for myself, and that stopped the intimate invasions,

period.

> When mixed with my other two discoveries, the Agrilabs Foot Rot

Spray

> and any herbal insect repellent (I like Legacy Herbs version), it

> reduced daytime and nighttime biting significantly. I can no longer

wear

> white blouses as they show the pink--literally pink--oil.

> Then I learned that if I mix those other two ingredients with

water

> instead of pink oil, I could soak my lingerie in it and also spray

it on

> my outer clothes, and this further reduced biting, particularly in

my

> shoes.

> I started wearing socks, over my hose at first, then realized I

had

> fewer issues when I reversed it and wore the socks inside!!! Weird

but

> true.

> Among the long list of chemicals I bathed in was Clorox. However

I did

> not think I would ever get the Clorine out of my sinuses and don't

want

> to do that again as long as I can keep the critters from torturing

me or

> invading me.

> I won't say that I am happy to still have the critters. I will

say

> that at a certain point I had to accept that I had done everything

THAT

> I KNEW TO DO AT THE TIME. Whenever I get another idea or see another

> chemical, I try it too. I have never given up.

> However, the protocols I have found, though not the safest, are a

> compromise that has allowed me to FUNCTION. And the Pink Oil has

> protected the integrity of my skin sufficiently that I can still go

in

> public and work.

> Is this where I want to stay? NO F*****G WAY!!!

> I am using the ESP products, and the borax (very low %) and

h2o2, but

> may eliminate the borax based on the arsenic news. I already knew

that

> borates are mildly toxic and are neurological agents, and I really

think

> my use of boric acid in the 70's may have contributed to the

restless

> legs syndrome.

> Someone told me today that they felt their body humming, which

is what

> mine did the first time I sprayed Raid directly on my skin. Our

nervous

> system is our electrical system, carrying life power throughout our

> bodies. I think the humming/tingling is a short. That didn't keep me

> from using the Raid twice more on my arm, which now that the

critters

> that cause the lesions have established there, are not wanting to go

> away. Definitely it is easier to keep them out of a particular part

of

> my body in the first place than to get them out after.

> Stuff is coming out of me due either to the borax+h2o2 or to the

ESP,

> and I hope it is due to the ESP since I'm dropping the borax. What

is

> coming out looks like rubbery larva (click here

>

<critterfiles/photos/album/1242840779/pi

c/\

> 1836088711/view?

picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & dir=asc>

> to see what they look like), and are visible to the naked eye, some

as

> long as 1/16 inch. Under the microscope, they are white, fibrous,

shaped

> like cigars but with pointed ends, and with short black legs. I

have NO

> IDEA what they are, just that they bite like heck.

> Since I started both of these protocols, I also find things that

are

> diving into my skin head first, with their long round butts poking

out,

> then even those disappear under the skin, leaving as evidence a

little

> red bump that is sensitive to the touch in the way that fiberglass

under

> the skin is. I have been able to prevent a couple from going in. I

used

> seabuckthorn oil to stop this one

>

<bodybugs/photos/album/1674835895/pic/14

98\

> 285375/view?

picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & dir=asc>

> in its tracks, which is how I got the pictures. Otherwise it

wouldn't

> have been around long enough to record, and I would have just had

the

> red bump.

> Does anyone remember when I reported the TJMaxx seam thread

critter?

> here is the album

>

<critterfiles/photos/album/937498051/pic

/l\

> ist> with the pics of the shirt and the lint roller showing how I

> removed them (and was able to then wear the shirt), and I found a

photo

> I had already posted of the actual critter, a critter I have seen

> before.

> Finally, I now believe, after being in this group for a few

months,

> that I AM going to lick these things, even though after all this

time I

> have several kinds. It is going to continue to be a complex battle,

but

> I WILL WIN IT,

>

> Thanks to all of you.

>

> KJ

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Dawn, check out posts 11390, 11422, and 9874 for ingredients and techniques. Also, you can find it with the black hair products in any department or drug or beauty store, or at sallybeauty.com (links are in the posts). I have a deal with the local Sally's and am able to buy a case (12 quarts of lotion) at a time for $7.99 / bottle versus the $10.29 or so it now normally costs.

Note this is not an organic product and has its risks, which I choose to accept due to the huge return I get from using this stuff.

Once I started using Pink Oil, I found an excuse to take my goddaughter back to a large local beauty supply store (much bigger than Sally's), and have found more products with sulfurs, neem oil, and essential oils in EVERY combination you can imagine. I cannot afford to test them all! And they are quite reasonable. In addition, the wigs in these stores range from $25 - $30 for synthetics (the only thing I will buy--human hair harbors all the things I am trying to get rid of!), and I now wear them, which like I said lets me keep my treatment du jour in my hair all day, and reduces shedding because my head is covered (sealed, almost) under paper towels, a wig cap, THEN the wig.

KJ

> >> > > > My critter journey began in 1985 with various incidents that > probably> > introduced the various species that now call me home. However, it > was in> > the late 90's that found me tortured on my feet and legs at work > with up> > to two innoculations a minute (this group calls them stings, so in> > future I will, too. both names are apt). At the same time, I was> > experiencing the most personal invasions at night. Sleep was > impossible.> > I was exhausted, terrified, raped by something I could not even > see, and> > I was powerless.> > I became suicidal and realizing that, sought professional help. > The> > counseling was useless, because of course my shrink didn't believe > me,> > but the Seroquel he prescribed (an antipsychotic, great name, huh?) > let> > me get some sleep despite the continual ultimate assaults.> > Simultaneously I was spending much more money than I had buying > and> > trying every chemical from every shelf: beauty, skin care, shaving,> > cleaning, pest control, lawn care... you name it, I patch tested it.> > More than once I have taken a Sharpie marker and drawn a grid on my > arm,> > then drawn the same grid on paper, and tried something different in> > every square like the allergists do.> > Bill, I didn't have the guts to use the fertilizer...Rita, I did > use> > Raid. On everything. The purple foggers and spray. Well, I didn't > use it> > on my body, but I used it on everything else, and constantly. It is > a> > wonder I am still here.> > I too found safe2use and began using the enzyme cleaner with> > peppermint prior to lice combing whatever it was that lived in my > scalp.> > I tried many more things: bathing and showering techniques, > tools,> > products, and I have been equally creative there. I discovered how > many> > things have ammonia in them. I learned that mixing Borax with Enzyme> > Cleaner produces an ammonia smell, and thus probably actually IS> > ammonia...> > My goddaughter uses Pink Oil, and one day I read the ingredients > and> > bought some for myself, and that stopped the intimate invasions, > period.> > When mixed with my other two discoveries, the Agrilabs Foot Rot > Spray> > and any herbal insect repellent (I like Legacy Herbs version), it> > reduced daytime and nighttime biting significantly. I can no longer > wear> > white blouses as they show the pink--literally pink--oil.> > Then I learned that if I mix those other two ingredients with > water> > instead of pink oil, I could soak my lingerie in it and also spray > it on> > my outer clothes, and this further reduced biting, particularly in > my> > shoes.> > I started wearing socks, over my hose at first, then realized I > had> > fewer issues when I reversed it and wore the socks inside!!! Weird > but> > true.> > Among the long list of chemicals I bathed in was Clorox. However > I did> > not think I would ever get the Clorine out of my sinuses and don't > want> > to do that again as long as I can keep the critters from torturing > me or> > invading me.> > I won't say that I am happy to still have the critters. I will > say> > that at a certain point I had to accept that I had done everything > THAT> > I KNEW TO DO AT THE TIME. Whenever I get another idea or see another> > chemical, I try it too. I have never given up.> > However, the protocols I have found, though not the safest, are a> > compromise that has allowed me to FUNCTION. And the Pink Oil has> > protected the integrity of my skin sufficiently that I can still go > in> > public and work.> > Is this where I want to stay? NO F*****G WAY!!!> > I am using the ESP products, and the borax (very low %) and > h2o2, but> > may eliminate the borax based on the arsenic news. I already knew > that> > borates are mildly toxic and are neurological agents, and I really > think> > my use of boric acid in the 70's may have contributed to the > restless> > legs syndrome.> > Someone told me today that they felt their body humming, which > is what> > mine did the first time I sprayed Raid directly on my skin. Our > nervous> > system is our electrical system, carrying life power throughout our> > bodies. I think the humming/tingling is a short. That didn't keep me> > from using the Raid twice more on my arm, which now that the > critters> > that cause the lesions have established there, are not wanting to go> > away. Definitely it is easier to keep them out of a particular part > of> > my body in the first place than to get them out after.> > Stuff is coming out of me due either to the borax+h2o2 or to the > ESP,> > and I hope it is due to the ESP since I'm dropping the borax. What > is> > coming out looks like rubbery larva (click here> > > <critterfiles/photos/album/1242840779/pi> c/\> > 1836088711/view?> picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & dir=asc>> > to see what they look like), and are visible to the naked eye, some > as> > long as 1/16 inch. Under the microscope, they are white, fibrous, > shaped> > like cigars but with pointed ends, and with short black legs. I > have NO> > IDEA what they are, just that they bite like heck.> > Since I started both of these protocols, I also find things that > are> > diving into my skin head first, with their long round butts poking > out,> > then even those disappear under the skin, leaving as evidence a > little> > red bump that is sensitive to the touch in the way that fiberglass > under> > the skin is. I have been able to prevent a couple from going in. I > used> > seabuckthorn oil to stop this one> > > <bodybugs/photos/album/1674835895/pic/14> 98\> > 285375/view?> picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & dir=asc> > > in its tracks, which is how I got the pictures. Otherwise it > wouldn't> > have been around long enough to record, and I would have just had > the> > red bump.> > Does anyone remember when I reported the TJMaxx seam thread > critter?> > here is the album> > > <critterfiles/photos/album/937498051/pic> /l\> > ist> with the pics of the shirt and the lint roller showing how I> > removed them (and was able to then wear the shirt), and I found a > photo> > I had already posted of the actual critter, a critter I have seen> > before.> > Finally, I now believe, after being in this group for a few > months,> > that I AM going to lick these things, even though after all this > time I> > have several kinds. It is going to continue to be a complex battle, > but> > I WILL WIN IT,> > > > Thanks to all of you.> > > > KJ> >>

[Guest guest]

jill, of course you are going to kick these buggers arse. You

have come so far in dropping your old maintenace routines. I think

one of the best things i ever have read on here was from Rita. And it

was to follow only sucessful protocols. I am trying to do that and I

am way better. You've come so far in doing that, I think it's great.

Now I have a question. Do you think, since the pink oil is so thick,

that it may be holding them in you as much as it's holding them off

you? You know I've been a big fan of live purging from my spice baths

rather than trying to kill them in me. Do you think your at the point

where you can put on the ESP products, then put Lou's vegtable oil

with clove and oregano oils and a touch of cayenne over the ESP, to

see if you can really get a major purge going? Keep the pink oil

going on your " delicate " areas. Just a thought for you.

When my purges were really bad, I would let them go for a couple of

hours to let them come out, change my sheets, jump into the shower

for a quick denorex with coal tar shampoo all over body wash, then

followed by more of the oil. I always have liked coconut oil with tea

tree in it as my just before bed protection. Then clean jamies. I was

usually able to sleep then.

I know there is nothing new here for you but I want you to kick these

suckers outta ya so bad.

Just one more thing.. I know it's too late in the season but do you

think treating your house for termites would help?

At least in the spring then.

Happy Holidays!

bob

>

>

> My critter journey began in 1985 with various incidents that

probably

> introduced the various species that now call me home. However, it

was in

> the late 90's that found me tortured on my feet and legs at work

with up

> to two innoculations a minute (this group calls them stings, so in

> future I will, too. both names are apt). At the same time, I was

> experiencing the most personal invasions at night. Sleep was

impossible.

> I was exhausted, terrified, raped by something I could not even

see, and

> I was powerless.

> I became suicidal and realizing that, sought professional help.

The

> counseling was useless, because of course my shrink didn't believe

me,

> but the Seroquel he prescribed (an antipsychotic, great name, huh?)

let

> me get some sleep despite the continual ultimate assaults.

> Simultaneously I was spending much more money than I had buying

and

> trying every chemical from every shelf: beauty, skin care, shaving,

> cleaning, pest control, lawn care... you name it, I patch tested it.

> More than once I have taken a Sharpie marker and drawn a grid on my

arm,

> then drawn the same grid on paper, and tried something different in

> every square like the allergists do.

> Bill, I didn't have the guts to use the fertilizer...Rita, I did

use

> Raid. On everything. The purple foggers and spray. Well, I didn't

use it

> on my body, but I used it on everything else, and constantly. It is

a

> wonder I am still here.

> I too found safe2use and began using the enzyme cleaner with

> peppermint prior to lice combing whatever it was that lived in my

scalp.

> I tried many more things: bathing and showering techniques,

tools,

> products, and I have been equally creative there. I discovered how

many

> things have ammonia in them. I learned that mixing Borax with Enzyme

> Cleaner produces an ammonia smell, and thus probably actually IS

> ammonia...

> My goddaughter uses Pink Oil, and one day I read the ingredients

and

> bought some for myself, and that stopped the intimate invasions,

period.

> When mixed with my other two discoveries, the Agrilabs Foot Rot

Spray

> and any herbal insect repellent (I like Legacy Herbs version), it

> reduced daytime and nighttime biting significantly. I can no longer

wear

> white blouses as they show the pink--literally pink--oil.

> Then I learned that if I mix those other two ingredients with

water

> instead of pink oil, I could soak my lingerie in it and also spray

it on

> my outer clothes, and this further reduced biting, particularly in

my

> shoes.

> I started wearing socks, over my hose at first, then realized I

had

> fewer issues when I reversed it and wore the socks inside!!! Weird

but

> true.

> Among the long list of chemicals I bathed in was Clorox. However

I did

> not think I would ever get the Clorine out of my sinuses and don't

want

> to do that again as long as I can keep the critters from torturing

me or

> invading me.

> I won't say that I am happy to still have the critters. I will

say

> that at a certain point I had to accept that I had done everything

THAT

> I KNEW TO DO AT THE TIME. Whenever I get another idea or see another

> chemical, I try it too. I have never given up.

> However, the protocols I have found, though not the safest, are a

> compromise that has allowed me to FUNCTION. And the Pink Oil has

> protected the integrity of my skin sufficiently that I can still go

in

> public and work.

> Is this where I want to stay? NO F*****G WAY!!!

> I am using the ESP products, and the borax (very low %) and

h2o2, but

> may eliminate the borax based on the arsenic news. I already knew

that

> borates are mildly toxic and are neurological agents, and I really

think

> my use of boric acid in the 70's may have contributed to the

restless

> legs syndrome.

> Someone told me today that they felt their body humming, which

is what

> mine did the first time I sprayed Raid directly on my skin. Our

nervous

> system is our electrical system, carrying life power throughout our

> bodies. I think the humming/tingling is a short. That didn't keep me

> from using the Raid twice more on my arm, which now that the

critters

> that cause the lesions have established there, are not wanting to go

> away. Definitely it is easier to keep them out of a particular part

of

> my body in the first place than to get them out after.

> Stuff is coming out of me due either to the borax+h2o2 or to the

ESP,

> and I hope it is due to the ESP since I'm dropping the borax. What

is

> coming out looks like rubbery larva (click here

>

<critterfiles/photos/album/1242840779/pi

c/\

> 1836088711/view?

picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & dir=asc>

> to see what they look like), and are visible to the naked eye, some

as

> long as 1/16 inch. Under the microscope, they are white, fibrous,

shaped

> like cigars but with pointed ends, and with short black legs. I

have NO

> IDEA what they are, just that they bite like heck.

> Since I started both of these protocols, I also find things that

are

> diving into my skin head first, with their long round butts poking

out,

> then even those disappear under the skin, leaving as evidence a

little

> red bump that is sensitive to the touch in the way that fiberglass

under

> the skin is. I have been able to prevent a couple from going in. I

used

> seabuckthorn oil to stop this one

>

<bodybugs/photos/album/1674835895/pic/14

98\

> 285375/view?

picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count=20 & dir=asc>

> in its tracks, which is how I got the pictures. Otherwise it

wouldn't

> have been around long enough to record, and I would have just had

the

> red bump.

> Does anyone remember when I reported the TJMaxx seam thread

critter?

> here is the album

>

<critterfiles/photos/album/937498051/pic

/l\

> ist> with the pics of the shirt and the lint roller showing how I

> removed them (and was able to then wear the shirt), and I found a

photo

> I had already posted of the actual critter, a critter I have seen

> before.

> Finally, I now believe, after being in this group for a few

months,

> that I AM going to lick these things, even though after all this

time I

> have several kinds. It is going to continue to be a complex battle,

but

> I WILL WIN IT,

>

> Thanks to all of you.

>

> KJ

>

[Guest guest]

I was unable to prevent something elongated, with a long round tipped

butt, from slipping into my back yesterday. I felt it, saw it in the

bathroom mirror (I was preparing for my shower), don't know where it

came from (me or environment) but I think from higher on my body bec

I am herxing like crazy thx to the esp and other essential oils I'm

using, plus the borax I had been using. I'm not used to having holes

and lesions like this, have only had problems I couldn't get under

control with pink oil that time on my left arm, and I'm still dealing

with that. So the new protocols are either working or I'm going to

hell in a handbasket. I think, though, that it is working. It's time

to start throwing out and cleaning up.

BTW the Pink Oil may have kept them in when used as a regular body

lotion, but when I massage it into my skin repeatedly, the little

rascals come right out, and that rascal came right out of me

yesterday. Now if it would just work with my left hand and arm...

I have to believe that these body changes, which seem like an

escalation, are what everyone has described here as " it gets worse

before it gets better. " Thank God y'all have said that, otherwise I

probably wouldn't think what I'm doing was working, and I would

stop!!!

Pray for me, I can't wait to be one of us who has kicked this!!!

KJ

>

> jill, of course you are going to kick these buggers arse. You

> have come so far in dropping your old maintenace routines. I think

> one of the best things i ever have read on here was from Rita. And

it

> was to follow only sucessful protocols. I am trying to do that and

I

> am way better. You've come so far in doing that, I think it's great.

> Now I have a question. Do you think, since the pink oil is so

thick,

> that it may be holding them in you as much as it's holding them off

> you? You know I've been a big fan of live purging from my spice

baths

> rather than trying to kill them in me. Do you think your at the

point

> where you can put on the ESP products, then put Lou's vegtable oil

> with clove and oregano oils and a touch of cayenne over the ESP, to

> see if you can really get a major purge going? Keep the pink oil

> going on your " delicate " areas. Just a thought for you.

> When my purges were really bad, I would let them go for a couple of

> hours to let them come out, change my sheets, jump into the shower

> for a quick denorex with coal tar shampoo all over body wash, then

> followed by more of the oil. I always have liked coconut oil with

tea

> tree in it as my just before bed protection. Then clean jamies. I

was

> usually able to sleep then.

> I know there is nothing new here for you but I want you to kick

these

> suckers outta ya so bad.

> Just one more thing.. I know it's too late in the season but do you

> think treating your house for termites would help?

> At least in the spring then.

> Happy Holidays!

> bob

[Guest guest]

KJ,

If you received the lotion bar with your ESP, do not use it by rubbing all over your skin. Cut chunks of it off and apply liberally to bad areas and especially around your eyes and nose. The T zone. You will find with the lotion bar, it has a high content of beeswax. A natural and more healthy alternative to the petroleum oils and vaseline. It seals even better and some will absorb. You will find they will come out in droves around your eyes and eye lashes esp. Cut with a samll dallop of OO and then use the spoon idea to get it on your back. This will also increase the perception of activity and they will come out rather quickly. Very counter-intuitive at first.

Frito

From: livingwithcritters <livingwithcritters@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 12:03:46 AMSubject: Re: Living with them--only till I can LICK 'em!!!

I was unable to prevent something elongated, with a long round tipped butt, from slipping into my back yesterday. I felt it, saw it in the bathroom mirror (I was preparing for my shower), don't know where it came from (me or environment) but I think from higher on my body bec I am herxing like crazy thx to the esp and other essential oils I'm using, plus the borax I had been using. I'm not used to having holes and lesions like this, have only had problems I couldn't get under control with pink oil that time on my left arm, and I'm still dealing with that. So the new protocols are either working or I'm going to hell in a handbasket. I think, though, that it is working. It's time to start throwing out and cleaning up.BTW the Pink Oil may have kept them in when used as a regular body lotion, but when I massage it into my skin repeatedly, the little rascals come right out, and that rascal came right

out of me yesterday. Now if it would just work with my left hand and arm...I have to believe that these body changes, which seem like an escalation, are what everyone has described here as "it gets worse before it gets better." Thank God y'all have said that, otherwise I probably wouldn't think what I'm doing was working, and I would stop!!!Pray for me, I can't wait to be one of us who has kicked this!!!KJ>> jill, of course you are going to kick these buggers arse. You > have come so far in dropping your old maintenace routines. I think > one of the best things i ever have read on here was from Rita. And it > was to follow only sucessful protocols. I am

trying to do that and I > am way better. You've come so far in doing that, I think it's great.> Now I have a question. Do you think, since the pink oil is so thick, > that it may be holding them in you as much as it's holding them off > you? You know I've been a big fan of live purging from my spice baths > rather than trying to kill them in me. Do you think your at the point > where you can put on the ESP products, then put Lou's vegtable oil > with clove and oregano oils and a touch of cayenne over the ESP, to > see if you can really get a major purge going? Keep the pink oil > going on your "delicate" areas. Just a thought for you.> When my purges were really bad, I would let them go for a couple of > hours to let them come out, change my sheets, jump into the shower > for a quick denorex with coal tar shampoo all over body wash, then > followed

by more of the oil. I always have liked coconut oil with tea > tree in it as my just before bed protection. Then clean jamies. I was > usually able to sleep then.> I know there is nothing new here for you but I want you to kick these > suckers outta ya so bad. > Just one more thing.. I know it's too late in the season but do you > think treating your house for termites would help?> At least in the spring then.> Happy Holidays!> bob

[Guest guest]

Go KJ! It sounds like you're on the right track. BTW, the first

sentence of your post sounds like the beginning of a science fiction

novel....

myrtle

> >

> > jill, of course you are going to kick these buggers arse. You

> > have come so far in dropping your old maintenace routines. I think

> > one of the best things i ever have read on here was from Rita. And

> it

> > was to follow only sucessful protocols. I am trying to do that and

> I

> > am way better. You've come so far in doing that, I think it's great.

> > Now I have a question. Do you think, since the pink oil is so

> thick,

> > that it may be holding them in you as much as it's holding them off

> > you? You know I've been a big fan of live purging from my spice

> baths

> > rather than trying to kill them in me. Do you think your at the

> point

> > where you can put on the ESP products, then put Lou's vegtable oil

> > with clove and oregano oils and a touch of cayenne over the ESP, to

> > see if you can really get a major purge going? Keep the pink oil

> > going on your " delicate " areas. Just a thought for you.

> > When my purges were really bad, I would let them go for a couple of

> > hours to let them come out, change my sheets, jump into the shower

> > for a quick denorex with coal tar shampoo all over body wash, then

> > followed by more of the oil. I always have liked coconut oil with

> tea

> > tree in it as my just before bed protection. Then clean jamies. I

> was

> > usually able to sleep then.

> > I know there is nothing new here for you but I want you to kick

> these

> > suckers outta ya so bad.

> > Just one more thing.. I know it's too late in the season but do you

> > think treating your house for termites would help?

> > At least in the spring then.

> > Happy Holidays!

> > bob

>

[Guest guest]

I have started this, thanks, frito. I had wondered what to do with my

face and eyes. Kritter Spritz is only temporary...

KJ

> >

> > jill, of course you are going to kick these buggers arse.

You

> > have come so far in dropping your old maintenace routines. I

think

> > one of the best things i ever have read on here was from Rita.

And

> it

> > was to follow only sucessful protocols. I am trying to do that

and

> I

> > am way better. You've come so far in doing that, I think it's

great.

> > Now I have a question. Do you think, since the pink oil is so

> thick,

> > that it may be holding them in you as much as it's holding them

off

> > you? You know I've been a big fan of live purging from my spice

> baths

> > rather than trying to kill them in me. Do you think your at the

> point

> > where you can put on the ESP products, then put Lou's vegtable

oil

> > with clove and oregano oils and a touch of cayenne over the ESP,

to

> > see if you can really get a major purge going? Keep the pink oil

> > going on your " delicate " areas. Just a thought for you.

> > When my purges were really bad, I would let them go for a couple

of

> > hours to let them come out, change my sheets, jump into the

shower

> > for a quick denorex with coal tar shampoo all over body wash,

then

> > followed by more of the oil. I always have liked coconut oil with

> tea

> > tree in it as my just before bed protection. Then clean jamies. I

> was

> > usually able to sleep then.

> > I know there is nothing new here for you but I want you to kick

> these

> > suckers outta ya so bad.

> > Just one more thing.. I know it's too late in the season but do

you

> > think treating your house for termites would help?

> > At least in the spring then.

> > Happy Holidays!

> > bob

>