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That's what I did put my things in storage. But now I am starting to think "if I'm lucky enough to get rid of this thing in 6 months will I feel comfortable going to storage to pick up my belongs?" The answer HELL NO!!!! So now I am trying to get over the fact that all my stuff is going to get thrown away. tommyFrom: vbscribe

<vbscribe@...>Subject: Can Couch Be Saved?bird mites Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 2:54 AM

I'm wondering what the general consensus is on sofas. Is there any way

they can be salvaged? We've got one of those plush sofas with lots of

places for mites to hide out and nest in. I've tried diamataceous

earth, denatured alcohol and pyrethrin sprays, but the things remain

and flourish. What if I put in in unheated storage for a year or so?

It routinely gets below zero here...

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Hey Tommy, I ended up throwing out antiques covered in cloth. Thousands of dollars worth. I am okay with it now considering the experience I have had with these things and I don't regret a bit of it now. At the time I threw that stuff away, my mind set was whether its possesion was worth prolonging our infestation and whether it would be worth it to me in the future to coat it with more toxic forms of pest control and use them and then have those issues as well. I decided back then, having them didn't really mean anything to me, whether I ever have the money again to replace such expensive stuff or not. In the end, its just stuff.

Frito

From: tommy morrow <tommy02141@...>bird mites Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 2:39:52 AMSubject: Re: Can Couch Be Saved?

That's what I did put my things in storage. But now I am starting to think "if I'm lucky enough to get rid of this thing in 6 months will I feel comfortable going to storage to pick up my belongs?" The answer HELL NO!!!! So now I am trying to get over the fact that all my stuff is going to get thrown away. tommy

From: vbscribe <vbscribe (DOT) com>Subject: Can Couch Be Saved?bird mitesDate: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 2:54 AM

I'm wondering what the general consensus is on sofas. Is there any waythey can be salvaged? We've got one of those plush sofas with lots ofplaces for mites to hide out and nest in. I've tried diamataceousearth, denatured alcohol and pyrethrin sprays, but the things remainand flourish. What if I put in in unheated storage for a year or so?It routinely gets below zero here...

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I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at the height of our

infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out the door if it

ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the hard fight just

like everyone else.....

Last year people were using high heat in their environment to kill

this 'thing'.....this is what we did, and it worked for us...total

elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive saturdays of

using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house to 170-200F.

Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up now and again

because it does work and we managed to save not only our house and

contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

(of course we were working just as hard internally and on on our skin

itself during the time we were elemenating them from our home...its a

three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

z

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Congratulations on getting the plague out of your environment, Z. What

if the things are in the walls? We had nests in our roof's venting

material, and a PCO suggested they probably migrated down through the

walls. Makes me wonder if anything but tenting or leaving will make a

real difference. Oh joy....

>

> I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at the height of our

> infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out the door if it

> ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

> But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the hard fight just

> like everyone else.....

> Last year people were using high heat in their environment to kill

> this 'thing'.....this is what we did, and it worked for us...total

> elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive saturdays of

> using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house to 170-200F.

> Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up now and again

> because it does work and we managed to save not only our house and

> contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

> (of course we were working just as hard internally and on on our skin

> itself during the time we were elemenating them from our home...its a

> three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

> z

>

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Tommy, do you think that putting your stuff in storage was the turning

point in getting them out of your person? Like you, I care more about

my sanity and well-being than the damn furniture. Problem is the

husband doesn't want to part with the stuff. So if anyone has

suggestions on how to salvage a couch I'm all ears - or mites, in this

case.

> From: vbscribe <vbscribe@...>

> Subject: Can Couch Be Saved?

> bird mites

> Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 2:54 AM

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> I'm wondering what the general consensus is on sofas. Is

there any way

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> they can be salvaged? We've got one of those plush sofas with lots of

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> places for mites to hide out and nest in. I've tried diamataceous

>

> earth, denatured alcohol and pyrethrin sprays, but the things remain

>

> and flourish. What if I put in in unheated storage for a year or so?

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> It routinely gets below zero here...

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He vscribe the walls are open at the top in the attic. Insulators are instructed

by code not to plug the air flow in the walls to assure proper ventilation .If

they are plugged , my insultor instruct me to pull the excess insulation back

from the edge. I would powder these walls with borax ground in a blender (

outside its nasty dust) and poof down them . One poster I read drilled holes

with the aid of a studfinder and poofed with a bellows up the wall , smart guy

..

Borax is used for insecticide on wood.

Bye,

Bill

110:1 (A

Psalm of Dovid.) The LORD said unto my Lord,

Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst

of thine enemies. 3 Thy people [shall be] willing in the day of thy power, in

the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy

youth

·:*°-:¦:-°*:·.††.·:*°-:¦:-°*:·.††.·God bless

you·:*°-:¦:-°*:·.††.·:*°-:¦:-°*:·.††..

vbscribe wrote:

> Congratulations on getting the plague out of your environment, Z.

What

> if the things are in the walls? We had nests in our roof's venting

> material, and a PCO suggested they probably migrated down through the

> walls. Makes me wonder if anything but tenting or leaving will make a

> real difference. Oh joy....

>

>>

>> I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at the height of our

>> infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out the door if it

>> ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

>> But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the hard fight just

>> like everyone else.....

>> Last year people were using high heat in their environment to kill

>> this 'thing'..... this is what we did, and it worked for us...total

>> elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive saturdays of

>> using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house to 170-200F.

>> Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up now and again

>> because it does work and we managed to save not only our house and

>> contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

>> (of course we were working just as hard internally and on on our skin

>> itself during the time we were elemenating them from our home...its a

>> three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

>> z

>>

>

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He vscribe the walls are open at the top in the attic. Insulators are instructed

by code not to plug the air flow in the walls to assure proper ventilation .If

they are plugged , my insultor instruct me to pull the excess insulation back

from the edge. I would powder these walls with borax ground in a blender (

outside its nasty dust) and poof down them . One poster I read drilled holes

with the aid of a studfinder and poofed with a bellows up the wall , smart guy

..

Borax is used for insecticide on wood.

Bye,

Bill

110:1 (A

Psalm of Dovid.) The LORD said unto my Lord,

Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst

of thine enemies. 3 Thy people [shall be] willing in the day of thy power, in

the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy

youth

·:*°-:¦:-°*:·.††.·:*°-:¦:-°*:·.††.·God bless

you·:*°-:¦:-°*:·.††.·:*°-:¦:-°*:·.††..

vbscribe wrote:

> Congratulations on getting the plague out of your environment, Z.

What

> if the things are in the walls? We had nests in our roof's venting

> material, and a PCO suggested they probably migrated down through the

> walls. Makes me wonder if anything but tenting or leaving will make a

> real difference. Oh joy....

>

>>

>> I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at the height of our

>> infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out the door if it

>> ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

>> But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the hard fight just

>> like everyone else.....

>> Last year people were using high heat in their environment to kill

>> this 'thing'..... this is what we did, and it worked for us...total

>> elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive saturdays of

>> using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house to 170-200F.

>> Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up now and again

>> because it does work and we managed to save not only our house and

>> contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

>> (of course we were working just as hard internally and on on our skin

>> itself during the time we were elemenating them from our home...its a

>> three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

>> z

>>

>

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Thank you for the enlightening response, Bill. To make matters worse,

we have no attic, and the house is huge - which makes treatment (I

assume) difficult and invasive, short of tenting. Sadly, tenting is

not available in these parts. Oh sad days...

> >>

> >> I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at the height

of our

> >> infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out the door

if it

> >> ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

> >> But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the hard fight

just

> >> like everyone else.....

> >> Last year people were using high heat in their environment to kill

> >> this 'thing'..... this is what we did, and it worked for us...total

> >> elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive saturdays of

> >> using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house to 170-200F.

> >> Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up now and

again

> >> because it does work and we managed to save not only our house and

> >> contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

> >> (of course we were working just as hard internally and on on our

skin

> >> itself during the time we were elemenating them from our

home...its a

> >> three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

> >> z

> >>

> >

>

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Hi Vscribe

Tenting is gassing with Vapena gas ( sp? )

When I gas my car with C02 it only kills the live ones , not the eggs. So I

have to gas again in 5 days. And if there are eggs that don & #39;t hatch in 5

days. then .....you see , it mut be treated several times.

I hope the roach prufe is not to poisoness , it is easy to apply , but makes me

gag. .

I did my boat & 1 room with .roach prufe . yech ! I have a nasty cough from

it . And I clean it off as best I could. Ans spraye epsom over it to glaze it

over .

What about Dustmite like Katijill recommends ? I would test everything 1 room at

a time , see if you can live with it before you massacre the whole house with

the poison . You think ? or maybe get an rv and heat treat it and stay in that

while you poison your house , then go in & clean it up for living in That is

what I am thinking about. doing .

I better get on it my life is going by .

Bye,

Bill

vbscribe wrote:

> Thank you for the enlightening response, Bill. To make matters

worse,

> we have no attic, and the house is huge - which makes treatment (I

> assume) difficult and invasive, short of tenting. Sadly, tenting is

> not available in these parts. Oh sad days...

>

>> >>

>> >> I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at the height

> of our

>> >> infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out the door

> if it

>> >> ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

>> >> But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the hard fight

> just

>> >> like everyone else.....

>> >> Last year people were using high heat in their environment to kill

>> >> this 'thing'..... this is what we did, and it worked for us...total

>> >> elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive saturdays of

>> >> using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house to 170-200F.

>> >> Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up now and

> again

>> >> because it does work and we managed to save not only our house and

>> >> contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

>> >> (of course we were working just as hard internally and on on our

> skin

>> >> itself during the time we were elemenating them from our

> home...its a

>> >> three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

>> >> z

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

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Hi Vscribe

Tenting is gassing with Vapena gas ( sp? )

When I gas my car with C02 it only kills the live ones , not the eggs. So I

have to gas again in 5 days. And if there are eggs that don & #39;t hatch in 5

days. then .....you see , it mut be treated several times.

I hope the roach prufe is not to poisoness , it is easy to apply , but makes me

gag. .

I did my boat & 1 room with .roach prufe . yech ! I have a nasty cough from

it . And I clean it off as best I could. Ans spraye epsom over it to glaze it

over .

What about Dustmite like Katijill recommends ? I would test everything 1 room at

a time , see if you can live with it before you massacre the whole house with

the poison . You think ? or maybe get an rv and heat treat it and stay in that

while you poison your house , then go in & clean it up for living in That is

what I am thinking about. doing .

I better get on it my life is going by .

Bye,

Bill

vbscribe wrote:

> Thank you for the enlightening response, Bill. To make matters

worse,

> we have no attic, and the house is huge - which makes treatment (I

> assume) difficult and invasive, short of tenting. Sadly, tenting is

> not available in these parts. Oh sad days...

>

>> >>

>> >> I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at the height

> of our

>> >> infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out the door

> if it

>> >> ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

>> >> But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the hard fight

> just

>> >> like everyone else.....

>> >> Last year people were using high heat in their environment to kill

>> >> this 'thing'..... this is what we did, and it worked for us...total

>> >> elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive saturdays of

>> >> using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house to 170-200F.

>> >> Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up now and

> again

>> >> because it does work and we managed to save not only our house and

>> >> contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

>> >> (of course we were working just as hard internally and on on our

> skin

>> >> itself during the time we were elemenating them from our

> home...its a

>> >> three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

>> >> z

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

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Thanks Bill for all your great posts lately. Your doing a great job

helping us. You mind just works so creatively.

I just sprayed everything with upholstery with KJ's dustmite spray.

Very easy to mix and apply and no real smell. I'm going to flip my

rugs over and do the back side of them today. It's not a quick fix

but KJ loves it so it must be good. I also put borax under all my

cushions and any hidden areas I can get it into on the couch. I tear

the liner on the bottom of the couch and toss it in. I also spray in

there too. I also sprayed everything upholstered with Nylar a few

weeks ago. I will do this again in a week or two. I also usually have

borax underneath all the rugs too.

Bill, do you have any appliance treatment ideas? I swear they are in

my fan hood over the stove and dropping into my food. I can see them

floating on top of any liquid under a bright light if I let the

liquid set there a bit. They must like the smell of my

cooking...burnt...lol.

merry hohoho

bob

> >> >>

> >> >> I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at the

height

> > of our

> >> >> infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out the

door

> > if it

> >> >> ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

> >> >> But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the hard

fight

> > just

> >> >> like everyone else.....

> >> >> Last year people were using high heat in their environment to

kill

> >> >> this 'thing'..... this is what we did, and it worked for

us...total

> >> >> elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive

saturdays of

> >> >> using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house to

170-200F.

> >> >> Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up now

and

> > again

> >> >> because it does work and we managed to save not only our

house and

> >> >> contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

> >> >> (of course we were working just as hard internally and on on

our

> > skin

> >> >> itself during the time we were elemenating them from our

> > home...its a

> >> >> three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

> >> >> z

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

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Hi VB,

Pitch the sofa and any other pieces of upholstered furniture that you

have... It's just stuff. Granted it's expensive to replace, but in the

long run, the sooner you get these upholstered pieces out of your

environment the better off you will be internally. As well as any

fabric drapery... throw pillows and the such.

The only piece of furniture that I did not have to throw away was an

antique chair that I had upholstered in silk fabric. For some reason

the mites didn't like it...

>

> I'm wondering what the general consensus is on sofas. Is there any way

> they can be salvaged? We've got one of those plush sofas with lots of

> places for mites to hide out and nest in. I've tried diamataceous

> earth, denatured alcohol and pyrethrin sprays, but the things remain

> and flourish. What if I put in in unheated storage for a year or so?

> It routinely gets below zero here...

>

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Hi

Its cold here so I have been using my stove a lot to quickly warm & dry the

kitchen. I noticed when I had all the burners on & the oven on high for 6 hrs

the fan hood was baking hot to the touch , bye bye bug. Other wise I blast the

fan hood in side with dawn , let dry then epsom , ruins the blower though . Next

time I get a new blower from the landlord ( not at all good to let him come in

Dawn epsomville ) but after a big rinse & vac with hot hot epsom water I will

have him replace it , and when I Decon it next time I will use CRC ELECTRCAL

contact cleaner from the auto parts store $4.99. it is like dry cleaning fluid

and cannot hurt a motor . It also works as a poison vapor in a ziplock with

papers & the like in it . It dosent smell much, only for 5 minutes. It

evaporates on contact

But don & #39;t breathe the poison

Bye, Bill

ps I remove the grease filter , bugs love grease. and that is a sign that it can

be used as a bait to draw them towards an ant trap from cvs , of make your own

with 1/7 th borax & 7/8 honey , the bugs will eat it. Maybe mix in some grease

to make it even more irresistable .

Anothe poster said when she cooks chicken the bugs swarm her. I use a bar- B -Q

outside if possible

Or I epsom the stove as I cook with & 48 oz mini chapin pump sprayer ( you get

6 for $19.00 at www.chapin .com ) I spray as they come and see it as the best

time to epsom lock tons of them. I also do my bed area just as I get up because

I know they have come to my bed area in the nite for snacking. I epsom lock all

of them to the floor and walls and there is another wave of them wiped out.

How many waves can they have ...atrition : the eternal hope of the bugged. It

works wonders each morning. very important moment , nice to have a chpin 48 oz

sprayer pre filled with 1 cup epsom & 32 oz water. The srayer lays out a huge

super fine mist. No tip is like that 48 oz chapin , it is like an automoble

paint gun , no dribbles, perfect for the car for those emergency pull over & fog

moments .

wrote:

> Thanks Bill for all your great posts lately. Your doing a great

job

> helping us. You mind just works so creatively.

> I just sprayed everything with upholstery with KJ's dustmite spray.

> Very easy to mix and apply and no real smell. I'm going to flip my

> rugs over and do the back side of them today. It's not a quick fix

> but KJ loves it so it must be good. I also put borax under all my

> cushions and any hidden areas I can get it into on the couch. I tear

> the liner on the bottom of the couch and toss it in. I also spray in

> there too. I also sprayed everything upholstered with Nylar a few

> weeks ago. I will do this again in a week or two. I also usually have

> borax underneath all the rugs too.

> Bill, do you have any appliance treatment ideas? I swear they are in

> my fan hood over the stove and dropping into my food. I can see them

> floating on top of any liquid under a bright light if I let the

> liquid set there a bit. They must like the smell of my

> cooking...burnt. ..lol.

> merry hohoho

> bob

>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at the

> height

>> > of our

>> >> >> infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out the

> door

>> > if it

>> >> >> ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

>> >> >> But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the hard

> fight

>> > just

>> >> >> like everyone else.....

>> >> >> Last year people were using high heat in their environment to

> kill

>> >> >> this 'thing'..... this is what we did, and it worked for

> us...total

>> >> >> elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive

> saturdays of

>> >> >> using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house to

> 170-200F.

>> >> >> Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up now

> and

>> > again

>> >> >> because it does work and we managed to save not only our

> house and

>> >> >> contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

>> >> >> (of course we were working just as hard internally and on on

> our

>> > skin

>> >> >> itself during the time we were elemenating them from our

>> > home...its a

>> >> >> three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

>> >> >> z

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>>

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Bill,

When you use a heater to warm a room you are actually burning the

moisture out of the air. When you use an air conditioner it does the

same thing and the water is collected on the coils and disposed of.

In either case you are dehumidifing your environment (or buy a

dehumidifier).Dry and Die. If you wanted to dehumidify a whole city

you would hire some planes to fly over and deposit some moisture

collecting particles in the air that would fall when saturated. Who

would do that?

WTG

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at the

> > height

> >> > of our

> >> >> >> infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out

the

> > door

> >> > if it

> >> >> >> ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

> >> >> >> But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the hard

> > fight

> >> > just

> >> >> >> like everyone else.....

> >> >> >> Last year people were using high heat in their environment

to

> > kill

> >> >> >> this 'thing'..... this is what we did, and it worked for

> > us...total

> >> >> >> elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive

> > saturdays of

> >> >> >> using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house to

> > 170-200F.

> >> >> >> Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up

now

> > and

> >> > again

> >> >> >> because it does work and we managed to save not only our

> > house and

> >> >> >> contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

> >> >> >> (of course we were working just as hard internally and on

on

> > our

> >> > skin

> >> >> >> itself during the time we were elemenating them from our

> >> > home...its a

> >> >> >> three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

> >> >> >> z

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

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Unless the couch is microfiber, I wouldn't try to save it. One of my

neighbors sprayed the heck out of all her furniture and belongings

with Cedarcide's Best Yet Insect Spray, and she saved her furniture

except her mattress. I don't know, though, if her furniture was

microfiber or not. Also, for her, money was no object. She has a 55

gallon drum of Cedarcide in her garage. I saved my microfiber couch

because it never really got infested, and I sprayed it with Cedarcide

a few times just in case. If your couch is infested and you have

financial constraints, I suggest you " put out a contract " on the

couch. The couch may have an " accident " .

myrtle

> > From: vbscribe <vbscribe@>

> > Subject: Can Couch Be Saved?

> > bird mites

> > Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 2:54 AM

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Hi Myrtle

How are you, I iAm better ,still coughing from the roach prufe. I put in 1

room and had to clean it all back out

One of my customers who has the bug in her house & yard & valley. She says they

never get n her bed it is a posture pedic foam type. . Amazing .. what would it

be like to sleep on a real bed ... ahh to dream ...

But I love my air mattress on a mote, pure safety . Never one bite in the nite.

( I do bleach it for 15 minutes & rinse it 1 time a week .more if needed ) &

soak it in epsom spray every other nite & let it dry to the nice glaze.

Cozy , but so strange ..

I do a lot of praying because of it.

Many are the afflictions of the rightous but the Lord delivers them of them all

......... Yea ! there is hope

Bye ,

Bill

myrtle_maui wrote:

> Unless the couch is microfiber, I wouldn't try to save it. One of

my

> neighbors sprayed the heck out of all her furniture and belongings

> with Cedarcide's Best Yet Insect Spray, and she saved her furniture

> except her mattress. I don't know, though, if her furniture was

> microfiber or not. Also, for her, money was no object. She has a 55

> gallon drum of Cedarcide in her garage. I saved my microfiber couch

> because it never really got infested, and I sprayed it with Cedarcide

> a few times just in case. If your couch is infested and you have

> financial constraints, I suggest you " put out a contract " on the

> couch. The couch may have an " accident " .

> myrtle

>

>> > From: vbscribe <vbscribe@>

>> > Subject: Can Couch Be Saved?

>> > bird mites

>> > Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 2:54 AM

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Thanks Bill for the help. I have a natural gas stove so I turned on

all four burners on high and really heated up the fan metal. It was

too hot to touch so I assume I was making mite fricasse.

Merry Christmas

bob

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at the

> > height

> >> > of our

> >> >> >> infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out

the

> > door

> >> > if it

> >> >> >> ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

> >> >> >> But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the hard

> > fight

> >> > just

> >> >> >> like everyone else.....

> >> >> >> Last year people were using high heat in their environment

to

> > kill

> >> >> >> this 'thing'..... this is what we did, and it worked for

> > us...total

> >> >> >> elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive

> > saturdays of

> >> >> >> using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house to

> > 170-200F.

> >> >> >> Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up

now

> > and

> >> > again

> >> >> >> because it does work and we managed to save not only our

> > house and

> >> >> >> contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

> >> >> >> (of course we were working just as hard internally and on

on

> > our

> >> > skin

> >> >> >> itself during the time we were elemenating them from our

> >> > home...its a

> >> >> >> three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

> >> >> >> z

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

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Hi Bill -- I'm doing fine, no more crawling, but my skin still feels

funky, like there's crushed glass inside. I'm glad you're doing

better too. I want to buy a foam mattress when I have enough money,

but I " mite " as well wait until the crushed glass finishes exiting my

skin. My air mattresses don't last too long around here.

Aloha,

myrtle

> >> > From: vbscribe <vbscribe@>

> >> > Subject: Can Couch Be Saved?

> >> > bird mites

> >> > Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 2:54 AM

> >

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Well to be honest I have not gotten them off me yet. But putting my things in storage did help I think. This past few months have by far been the most trying times in my life and I  doing everything I can to make it better. Not only do I have mites but also morgellons so if the mites are not biting me then dam lint balls things are. I have some good  days then others these things just falt put  kick my ass. My heart goes out to everyone of you who has to deal with this mess. I pray for you.                                                                         Tommy Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 24, 2008, at 6:07 PM, "myrtle_maui" <myrtle_maui@...> wrote:

Hi Bill -- I'm doing fine, no more crawling, but my skin still feels

funky, like there's crushed glass inside. I'm glad you're doing

better too. I want to buy a foam mattress when I have enough money,

but I "mite" as well wait until the crushed glass finishes exiting my

skin. My air mattresses don't last too long around here.

Aloha,

myrtle

> >> > From: vbscribe <vbscribe@>

> >> > Subject: Can Couch Be Saved?

> >> > bird mites

> >> > Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 2:54 AM

> >

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Tommy keep the faith.

This is an affliction , God will heal you.

Frito is better, zooks, I am free of he deep back wiggling things. ( I use

2 tblspn borax

16 oz peroxide

32 oz water

mix and apply to affected areas.

2 hrs later olive oil to keep skin from being stripped of oil & keep the acid

mantle up on the skin says frito

I will start soaking in epsom for 30 mins with tons of shampoo bubbles to drown

swimmers in a day or two to change up on the bug . and give my body a rest on

the borax. I got them off my feet with borax soaks 3 days, then 57 days soaking

in epsom 1 cup per gallon in a bucket , I would mix a littel borax in the the

water every week once in a while if the epsom wasn & #39;t working. I had some

real strange bugs on my feet. I had 4 & #39; & #39; X4 & #39; & #39; strawberry patches

that looked like they came from the inside up . ,I had bumps that would not go

away , it felt like they were really deep in my skin. . I had atheltes foot.

It all dissappered with no pain or poisoning my self , just soaking 2 time a

day for 30 mins. I ended up putting the mix in a pair of rubber boots and

walking around with them full of 1-2 cups of mix: 2 tablespoons epsom & 2 cups

of water . It worked & was no hassle , I bleached the boots clean when done. I

couple of spritz & #39;s of bleach water and put in the back closet till the next

soak.

This bug will soak out.

Are you using esp botanicals ?

The link is

www .earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure .html

Have a good Christmas

Help a poor person get a meal & a present . .

And celebrate THE SAVIOR HAS COME .... . .. !

bye

See you soon

Bill

tommy02141@... wrote:

> Well to be honest I have not gotten them off me yet. But putting

my things in storage did help I think. This past few months have by far been the

most trying times in my life and I  doing everything I can to make it better.

Not only do I have mites but also morgellons so if the mites are not biting me

then dam lint balls things are. I have some good  days then others these things

just falt put  kick my ass. My heart goes out to everyone of you who has to deal

with this mess. I pray for you.                                                 

                        Tommy  Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2008, at 6:07 PM,

" myrtle_maui " < myrtle_maui > wrote:

> Hi Bill -- I'm doing fine, no more crawling, but my skin still

feels

> funky, like there's crushed glass inside. I'm glad you're doing

> better too. I want to buy a foam mattress when I have enough money,

> but I " mite " as well wait until the crushed glass finishes exiting my

> skin. My air mattresses don't last too long around here.

> Aloha,

> myrtle

>

>> >> > From: vbscribe <vbscribe@>

>> >> > Subject: Can Couch Be Saved?

>> >> > bird mites

>> >> > Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 2:54 AM

>> >

>>

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Hi Bill, I think the PCO said something about " vikane " gas. He said

they wrap the entire house in plastic using a crane, then they gas

away. Very lethal; even kills plants. Whatever it is, we won't be

doing it. I guess boric acid will be our next move. No one around here

carries Roach Prufe but it sounds like it's just boric acid with

coloring added. Thanks for the dustmite tip. I like your idea of

living in an RV whilst poisoning the house! Sure hope the Roach Prufe

works in your boat. Let us know how it goes...

> >> >>

> >> >> I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at the height

> > of our

> >> >> infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out the door

> > if it

> >> >> ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

> >> >> But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the hard fight

> > just

> >> >> like everyone else.....

> >> >> Last year people were using high heat in their environment to

kill

> >> >> this 'thing'..... this is what we did, and it worked for

us...total

> >> >> elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive

saturdays of

> >> >> using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house to

170-200F.

> >> >> Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up now and

> > again

> >> >> because it does work and we managed to save not only our house

and

> >> >> contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

> >> >> (of course we were working just as hard internally and on on our

> > skin

> >> >> itself during the time we were elemenating them from our

> > home...its a

> >> >> three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

> >> >> z

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

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Hi Trly, good to hear from you again. I've pretty much given up on the

couch. It's alive! Now if I can just talk the husband into giving it

up. It's his baby, you see. I can't ever see myself buying another

piece of uphulstered furniture after enduring this nightmare.

> >

> > I'm wondering what the general consensus is on sofas. Is there any way

> > they can be salvaged? We've got one of those plush sofas with lots of

> > places for mites to hide out and nest in. I've tried diamataceous

> > earth, denatured alcohol and pyrethrin sprays, but the things remain

> > and flourish. What if I put in in unheated storage for a year or so?

> > It routinely gets below zero here...

> >

>

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You guys are too much!!! mite fricase, love it!

And Bill, I am wondering if the bugs love grease, I am assuming meat

grease from cooking since veggies may be cooked in grease but don't

have their own? Also, the grease in a trap may help prevent the honey

borax mixture from drying out, making it effective longer.

KJ

> > >> >> >>

> > >> >> >> I agree with frito, its just stuff....when we were at

the

> > > height

> > >> > of our

> > >> >> >> infestation I would have lit a match and just walked out

> the

> > > door

> > >> > if it

> > >> >> >> ment that this plague would be gone from our lives.

> > >> >> >> But as it doesnt work that way....we had to fight the

hard

> > > fight

> > >> > just

> > >> >> >> like everyone else.....

> > >> >> >> Last year people were using high heat in their

environment

> to

> > > kill

> > >> >> >> this 'thing'..... this is what we did, and it worked for

> > > us...total

> > >> >> >> elemination of what ever mite we had in 3 consecutive

> > > saturdays of

> > >> >> >> using propane heaters to heat the interior of our house

to

> > > 170-200F.

> > >> >> >> Yes its radical, yes its extreme....but I do bring it up

> now

> > > and

> > >> > again

> > >> >> >> because it does work and we managed to save not only our

> > > house and

> > >> >> >> contents, but we were able to get our lives back....

> > >> >> >> (of course we were working just as hard internally and

on

> on

> > > our

> > >> > skin

> > >> >> >> itself during the time we were elemenating them from our

> > >> > home...its a

> > >> >> >> three prong attack, internal, external, environmental)

> > >> >> >> z

> > >> >> >>

> > >> >> >

> > >> >>

> > >> >

> > >>

> > >

> >

>

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