Re: Bird mites and Morgellons relation

December 25, 2008

Joe I do believe that Tim the owner of this site would perfer that we keep the morgellons talk to a minimum so out of respect for his wishes I don't want to have a back and forth on this here in this group.But what made me start to think there might be something else going on is when I took a lint brush and rolled it over my skin I would see these small hairs or "fibers". If you want to learn more about morgellons then use this link and they are many others out there as well a long with groups ect.Just erase the space in the link. take care. http://www.morgellons .org/ tommyFrom: lincoln_joe <lincoln_joe@...>Subject: Bird mites and Morgellons relationbird mites Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 10:13 PM

I'm a bit confused about Morgellons, and how it relates to bird mites.

When I first realized that my problem was not fleas, but something I

cannot see; I landed on bird mites as the answer. Morgellons is often

mentioned in the same sentence. Are they two separate things, and if

not, do bird mites morph into Morgellons? Whatever I have, I perceive

it on the exterior of my skin. Hopping, landing, crawling and biting.

I've heard talk in the group on worm-type things, or cottony things,

entering and exiting the skin. Would somebody set me straight? Joe

December 25, 2008

One way to test for Morgellons is to get tested for Lyme Disease. Usually people with it test positive. Morgellons is more of a crawling sensation on AND underneath the skin. Most people who have gotten Morgellons have gone swimming in "infected" environment. The biggest sign in having fibers come out of them. These fibers are generally white and hard. They can also be red, black, and blue. Another way to see if you have it is to go to youtube and look up videos of people with it. I thought I might have but after viewing people with it, you can tell if you or don't. I know I don't. There is a differnece of seeing something on your skin that might be what they are talking about and a difference of something coming out.

From: lincoln_joe <lincoln_joe@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 7:13:02 PMSubject: Bird mites and Morgellons relation

I'm a bit confused about Morgellons, and how it relates to bird mites.When I first realized that my problem was not fleas, but something Icannot see; I landed on bird mites as the answer. Morgellons is oftenmentioned in the same sentence. Are they two separate things, and ifnot, do bird mites morph into Morgellons? Whatever I have, I perceiveit on the exterior of my skin. Hopping, landing, crawling and biting.I've heard talk in the group on worm-type things, or cottony things,entering and exiting the skin. Would somebody set me straight? Joe

December 25, 2008

Joe,

I believe that Morgellons and mites are two seperate entities yet

relative to one another. Alot of the symptoms are the same.

I think our immune systems get run down to a point that makes us

vulnerable to a mite attack. Whether it be caused by fungus, yeast or

other issues... The possible " onset " of early stages of Morgs if you

will?... Causes? Many possibly. Nano Particles running amok ...

Chemtrails... Genetically Modified anything...food...fibers in

clothing...soy...corn...fast food... and the list goes on and on.

(This concept is just too huge to really get into.)

Bird mites or rather arachnids can most certainly morph so as not to

be rejected by their chosen host. " US " . That's why they are so hard

to kill in the environment. They become " invisible " ...

So it's possible, if we do not have Morgellons beforehand... we

almost certainly develop signs of it during and after an infestation.

So my belief is... is that if anyone has this on their exterior

person, then there are internal issues that are causing the problem

and need to be addressed. Why else would " they " be attracted to us?

There is a link.

This has been my experience and is only my humble opinion.

Trly

>

> I'm a bit confused about Morgellons, and how it relates to bird

mites.

> When I first realized that my problem was not fleas, but something I

> cannot see; I landed on bird mites as the answer. Morgellons is

often

> mentioned in the same sentence. Are they two separate things, and if

> not, do bird mites morph into Morgellons? Whatever I have, I

perceive

> it on the exterior of my skin. Hopping, landing, crawling and

biting.

> I've heard talk in the group on worm-type things, or cottony things,

> entering and exiting the skin. Would somebody set me straight? Joe

>

December 25, 2008

Thank you trlyblest for your response (also tommy morrow 4 the link; and Oh). I think they are different entities as well. Something you said did strike me though:"So my belief is... is that if anyone has this on their exterior person, then there are internal issues that are causing the problem and need to be addressed. Why else would "they" be attracted to us? There is a link."This adds weight to a suspicion I've had about my own health. When the infestation began to ramp-up in the late summer; I started to drink every night....as an escape. I think the drinking changed my body chemistry in such a way as to make me sweeter tasting to the mites; Because they seemed to explode in population, and aggressiveness. I stopped the alcohol intake last week; but

it will take awhile to return to my normal chemistry.Anyway, that is just my silly theory. JoeFrom: trlyblest <trlyblest@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 12:02:11 AMSubject: Re: Bird mites and Morgellons relation Joe, I believe that Morgellons and mites are two seperate entities yet relative to one another. Alot of the symptoms are the same. I think our immune systems get run down to a point that makes us vulnerable to a mite attack. Whether it be caused by fungus, yeast or other issues... The possible "onset" of early stages of Morgs if you will?... Causes? Many possibly. Nano Particles running amok ... Chemtrails.. . Genetically Modified anything...food. ..fibers in clothing...soy. ..corn... fast food... and the list goes on and on. (This concept is just too huge to really get into.) Bird mites or rather arachnids can most certainly morph so as not to be rejected by their chosen host. "US". That's why they are so hard to kill

in the environment. They become "invisible". .. So it's possible, if we do not have Morgellons beforehand.. . we almost certainly develop signs of it during and after an infestation. So my belief is... is that if anyone has this on their exterior person, then there are internal issues that are causing the problem and need to be addressed. Why else would "they" be attracted to us? There is a link. This has been my experience and is only my humble opinion. Trly > > I'm a bit confused about Morgellons, and how it relates to bird mites. > When I first realized that my problem was not fleas, but something I > cannot see; I landed on bird mites as the

answer. Morgellons is often > mentioned in the same sentence. Are they two separate things, and if > not, do bird mites morph into Morgellons? Whatever I have, I perceive > it on the exterior of my skin. Hopping, landing, crawling and biting. > I've heard talk in the group on worm-type things, or cottony things, > entering and exiting the skin. Would somebody set me straight? Joe >

December 25, 2008

Joe,

It's not a silly theory. It's a very valid one.

Am glad that you laid it down... Might want to think about replacing

the cost of the bottle for a few bottles of vitamins? Just to help

speed up the process of making yourself healthier and less appealing

to these buggers.

When I first arrived here I was the worst skeptic... " an internal

infestation wasn't going to happen to me " , I kept saying to

myself.... but experience has changed my way of thinking...

Good luck to you and Happy Holidays,

Trly

>

> Thank you trlyblest for your response (also tommy morrow 4 the

link; and Oh). I think they are different entities as well.

Something you said did strike me though:

>

> " So my belief is... is that if anyone has this on their exterior

> person, then there are internal issues that are causing the problem

> and need to be addressed. Why else would " they " be attracted to us?

> There is a link. "

>

> This adds weight to a suspicion I've had about my own health. When

the infestation began to ramp-up in the late summer; I started to

drink every night....as an escape. I think the drinking changed my

body chemistry in such a way as to make me sweeter tasting to the

mites; Because they seemed to explode in population, and

aggressiveness. I stopped the alcohol intake last week; but it will

take awhile to return to my normal chemistry.

> Anyway, that is just my silly theory.

> Joe

>

December 25, 2008

trly-Thanks, I know you're correct. No more boozing for me! I actually bought 1 bottle of a general multi-vitamin, and another of B-vitamin complex yesterday. Do you recommend anything else? Are there any other foods, or substances that might make me a less satisfactory host? I read on the bird mites site, a story about a guy eating tons of hot peppers. He claimed this cured him; However, I can't go that route, because my stomach cannot handle hot stuff. JoeFrom: trlyblest <trlyblest@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:28:06 AMSubject: Re: Bird mites and Morgellons relation

Joe,

It's not a silly theory. It's a very valid one.

Am glad that you laid it down... Might want to think about replacing

the cost of the bottle for a few bottles of vitamins? Just to help

speed up the process of making yourself healthier and less appealing

to these buggers.

When I first arrived here I was the worst skeptic..."an internal

infestation wasn't going to happen to me", I kept saying to

myself.... but experience has changed my way of thinking...

Good luck to you and Happy Holidays,

Trly

>

> Thank you trlyblest for your response (also tommy morrow 4 the

link; and Oh). I think they are different entities as well.

Something you said did strike me though:

>

> "So my belief is... is that if anyone has this on their exterior

> person, then there are internal issues that are causing the problem

> and need to be addressed. Why else would "they" be attracted to us?

> There is a link."

>

> This adds weight to a suspicion I've had about my own health. When

the infestation began to ramp-up in the late summer; I started to

drink every night....as an escape. I think the drinking changed my

body chemistry in such a way as to make me sweeter tasting to the

mites; Because they seemed to explode in population, and

aggressiveness. I stopped the alcohol intake last week; but it will

take awhile to return to my normal chemistry.

> Anyway, that is just my silly theory.

> Joe

>

December 25, 2008

The miracle of " Cool Cayenne " 100,000 heat units by Solaray will

allow you to smoke them out. It works for some and actually feel

cool. Kirkland (Costco) " Premium performance Multivitamin " contains

3.5 mg of copper which is a natural anti-everything that's bad.

WTG......................

> >

> > Thank you trlyblest for your response (also tommy morrow 4 the

> link; and Oh). I think they are different entities as well.

> Something you said did strike me though:

> >

> > " So my belief is... is that if anyone has this on their exterior

> > person, then there are internal issues that are causing the

problem

> > and need to be addressed. Why else would " they " be attracted to

us?

> > There is a link. "

> >

> > This adds weight to a suspicion I've had about my own health.

When

> the infestation began to ramp-up in the late summer; I started to

> drink every night....as an escape. I think the drinking changed my

> body chemistry in such a way as to make me sweeter tasting to the

> mites; Because they seemed to explode in population, and

> aggressiveness. I stopped the alcohol intake last week; but it will

> take awhile to return to my normal chemistry.

> > Anyway, that is just my silly theory.

> > Joe

> >

>

December 26, 2008

Joe -

Milk thistle and 1000 mg vit C. Msm. Make sure your vitamins

include minerals. Eat lots of raw veggies and get a colon cleanse

from your health food store. There is more, but that is a start.

Bessie

> >

> > Thank you trlyblest for your response (also tommy morrow 4 the

> link; and Oh). I think they are different entities as well.

> Something you said did strike me though:

> >

> > " So my belief is... is that if anyone has this on their exterior

> > person, then there are internal issues that are causing the

problem

> > and need to be addressed. Why else would " they " be attracted to

us?

> > There is a link. "

> >

> > This adds weight to a suspicion I've had about my own health.

When

> the infestation began to ramp-up in the late summer; I started to

> drink every night....as an escape. I think the drinking changed my

> body chemistry in such a way as to make me sweeter tasting to the

> mites; Because they seemed to explode in population, and

> aggressiveness. I stopped the alcohol intake last week; but it will

> take awhile to return to my normal chemistry.

> > Anyway, that is just my silly theory.

> > Joe

> >

>

December 26, 2008

Joe,

So glad to hear that you picked up those vitamins! Woohooo!

Yeah... Add what Bessie said to add. Do a colon cleanse as she

suggested and then work on the liver. A squeeze of Lemon Juice in a

glass of water daily will work wonders for the liver and help

detoxify it. Space the intake of your vitamins well apart from

drinking the lemon water. The acid from the lemons will cause the

vitamin intake to be counterproductive. Also make sure that your B

complex vite has a higher than standard Folate (Folic Acid) count.

Add pumpkin seed oil caps for a decent antiparasitic. This is a great

start and shouldn't be too difficult to do. You can add to or tweak

as needed later on or when you feel comfortable in doing so.

The intake of Hot foods I can't tolerate either. My tummy says no

no... But I do add alot of garlic when cooking and various other

items that I think might help.

How long have you been bothered by the mites?

Best Wishes!

Trly

>

> trly-

> Thanks, I know you're correct. No more boozing for me! I actually

bought 1 bottle of a general multi-vitamin, and another of B-vitamin

complex yesterday. Do you recommend anything else? Are there any

other foods, or substances that might make me a less satisfactory

host? I read on the bird mites site, a story about a guy eating

tons of hot peppers. He claimed this cured him; However, I can't go

that route, because my stomach cannot handle hot stuff.

> Joe

>

December 26, 2008

Thanks trly, bessie, and william! I found the cool cayenne pepper 100,000 heat units that suggested, on-line. trly mentioned spacing the timing of the lemon-water, so as to not interfere with the vitamins. Will the pepper also interfere? Thanks guys....I have a shopping list for tomorrow.

joeFrom: trlyblest <trlyblest@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 7:33:28 PMSubject: Re: Bird mites and Morgellons relation Joe, So glad to hear that you picked up those vitamins! Woohooo! Yeah... Add what Bessie said to add. Do a colon cleanse as she suggested and then work on the liver. A squeeze of Lemon Juice in a glass of water daily will work wonders for the liver and help detoxify it. Space the intake of your vitamins well apart from drinking the lemon water. The acid from the lemons will cause the vitamin

intake to be counterproductive. Also make sure that your B complex vite has a higher than standard Folate (Folic Acid) count. Add pumpkin seed oil caps for a decent antiparasitic. This is a great start and shouldn't be too difficult to do. You can add to or tweak as needed later on or when you feel comfortable in doing so. The intake of Hot foods I can't tolerate either. My tummy says no no... But I do add alot of garlic when cooking and various other items that I think might help. How long have you been bothered by the mites? Best Wishes! Trly > > trly- > Thanks, I know you're correct. No more boozing for me! I actually bought 1 bottle of

a general multi-vitamin, and another of B-vitamin complex yesterday. Do you recommend anything else? Are there any other foods, or substances that might make me a less satisfactory host? I read on the bird mites site, a story about a guy eating tons of hot peppers. He claimed this cured him; However, I can't go that route, because my stomach cannot handle hot stuff. > Joe > >

December 26, 2008

Joe, I have been pounding my head on what the heck is their marking

system is. They will occasionally bite other people, but when they

find us, they start jumping and biting in excitement it is like a

flea circus. One thing I have noticed is there are not only host

specific, they are spot specific to our bodies. For example, if

they bite on one side of my body, they will bite on the exact same

side around the same time. Basically they are not only attracted to

our cells, but certain cells in our body. Since we are bilateral

organisms, the right and left side of our bodies are essentially

twins of each other. I think even the populations they hatch with

are grouped together. These things rely so much on pheromones. I

also think they identify us by levels of uroric acid in our skin.

That is how other external parasites find their host.

Regarding your alcohol drinking, I have been there brother. I would

drink to forget. I finally grew up and realized I was only hurting

myself and not solving the problem. Alcohol is actually turned into

sugar later, which we all know they love, so you should probably

avoid it. However, I don't think it isn't actually the sugar they

are attracted to but the way our body processes it. Birds do not

eat sugar but they do run on glucose, which is what we run on. So

anything that triggers high levels of glucose production will

trigger them. Most of the food we eat along with other mammals is

turned into glucose. I also think that is they only way they can

transfer over to us as a host. It would take a lot of evolution for

them to switch hosts considering our diets differ so much from

birds/rats. These things are stupid, but they are very well

adapted.

Regarding Morgellons, I'd just take an afternoon and cruise around

on the web researching it. I thought I might have it but after you

see what it is like for others, I think it is something completely

different than mites, even though they seem to have the same

symptoms other than the fibers. Avoid websites telling you to buy

stuff. They seem to clump mites and morgellons together which they

shouldn't be.

I was also wondering from anyone who reads this if they are really

allergic to bug bites before this? That is of of things I thought of

why they might be attracted more to me. I know some of you think we

get this because of a suppressed immune system but mine is as solid

as a rock. My boyfriend will get sick and I won't. He doesn't have

the bugs though.

> >

> > I'm a bit confused about Morgellons, and how it relates to bird

> mites.

> > When I first realized that my problem was not fleas, but

something I

> > cannot see; I landed on bird mites as the answer. Morgellons is

> often

> > mentioned in the same sentence. Are they two separate things, and

if

> > not, do bird mites morph into Morgellons? Whatever I have, I

> perceive

> > it on the exterior of my skin. Hopping, landing, crawling and

> biting.

> > I've heard talk in the group on worm-type things, or cottony

things,

> > entering and exiting the skin. Would somebody set me straight?

Joe

> >

>

December 26, 2008

Thanks - Glad you can relate. Yes, alcohol converts to sugar; so no more for me. I know what you're saying about the critters marking you, and preferring you exclusively. That's why I doubted my sanity earlier; because any visitors to my house were not bothered. Also on the Morgellons, I think you're right about the sites hawking their wares, clumping Morgellons and mites together. That's what was confusing

me. JoeFrom: <amandatheclimber@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:01:14 PMSubject: Re: Bird mites and Morgellons relation