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Hi, Marguerite,

SOunds like my mom and i have the same bug as you. She can see hers

flying around her. I have seen 2 around me. I feel for you, i know it

is a hard fight. My mom has been at it for almost a year now as well.

Glad to see you are trying new things. Please dont give up. The bugs

dont die right away from the roach prufe, but it does eventually kill

anything it touches. The more they move the faster they die. You can

use the bellow duster to get in all of those cracks and empty spaces,

and just leave it there. It says that if Roach prufe is used in new

construction, that it will keep bugs out of the building forever. It

doesnt lose effectiveness, so instead of swiffering it up, think of

more places to put it. You can clean it up when they are all dead. I

will be thinking of you. Good luck. Keep on keeping on.

Holly

> > Last night I used Borax on one side of my face. I wanted to see

if it

> > dehydrated the skin and pores. Within minutes I could see my face

> > (which is usually flushed)become pale. I was purging thing out of

my

> > skin (white hard) that were mixed with Demodex mites in the cheek

area

> > (natural)(cheeks are highest consentration of Demodex mites).The

> > results would have been the same if I had used Boric acid as both

are

> > triggered by moisture. After 10 minutes I cleaned my face and

applied

> > my usual DSP cream. I think if the critters are not hard shelled

they

> > will be a goners if they get into this stuff (thanks Rita). If

you have

> > Nano Particles (silicone)as some people believe then boric acid

will

> > turn them into Silly Putty.LOL... .WTG

> >

>

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Thanks Holly;

You are so kind as usual in sharing your experience. I could swear at first I thought it got better, then all heck broke loose, my car looks like a blue snow storm hit on the inside, I got stuff on my clothes and do not care, I just want them dead.

The same in the apartment, you think I should not give up and wait. DO I re sprinkle or blow this stuff on a daily basis and leave it there for a while.?

My lungs are still sort of ok, my face is alkaline burnt from an attempt to apply to my body, I just placed a dab or so on my cheeks and chin, but woke up with the worse ever swollen eyes and face, now the swelling is gone but the pachment paper feel is still there, I messed up, I had less problems in my face etc before, even started to use my beloved Retin A again, used for years and my skin was remarkable, now I have to re-condition my skin until it settles into the Retin A routine, I believe in the cell turnover rate this agent produces at the subcutanous level, promotes collagen production , so therefore not a mite lingering millieu.

right now, I keep my nose to the grindstone with work, then Tuesday I will seriously tackle my place and get rid of these menacing things, to see them constantly is deeply disturbing. I even sold my timeshare deal long ago scheduled for NEW years in Las Vegas on Craigslist, this time I got some interested parties and will use the money to invest into some critter ammo etc.

I want them out of my environment so badly, I deal with my internal stuff glady later even for years if I never SEE or FEEL them again,

Happy Holidays to you and your family.

Marguerite

From: Holly <hollyjane11@...>Subject: Re: flying bugsbird mites Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 9:44 AM

Hi, Marguerite,SOunds like my mom and i have the same bug as you. She can see hers flying around her. I have seen 2 around me. I feel for you, i know it is a hard fight. My mom has been at it for almost a year now as well. Glad to see you are trying new things. Please dont give up. The bugs dont die right away from the roach prufe, but it does eventually kill anything it touches. The more they move the faster they die. You can use the bellow duster to get in all of those cracks and empty spaces, and just leave it there. It says that if Roach prufe is used in new construction, that it will keep bugs out of the building forever. It doesnt lose effectiveness, so instead of swiffering it up, think of more places to put it. You can clean it up when they are all dead. I will be thinking of you. Good luck. Keep on keeping on.Holly > > Last night I used Borax on one side of my face. I wanted to see if it > > dehydrated the skin and pores. Within minutes I could see my face > > (which is usually flushed)become pale. I was purging thing out of my > > skin (white hard) that were mixed with Demodex mites in the cheek area > > (natural)(cheeks are highest consentration of Demodex mites).The > > results would have been the same if I had used Boric acid as both are > > triggered by moisture. After 10 minutes I cleaned my face and applied > > my usual DSP cream. I think if the critters are not hard shelled they > > will be a goners if they get

into this stuff (thanks Rita). If you have > > Nano Particles (silicone)as some people believe then boric acid will > > turn them into Silly Putty.LOL... .WTG > >>

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I am doing the same thing today and tomorrow what you are going to do Tuesday.I am cleaning like a son of a gun then tomorrow after I come home from church I will spray the goat shit out of my place.What a way to spend Christmas..But this is what we have to do Marguerite or we will never get out of this mess. I am going to spray my place every two weeks with suspend and igr. I do read your post Marguerite but don't recall if you are using the esp stuff. If not give it a try it has helped me some.Take

care. tommy

From: Holly <hollyjane11>Subject: Re: flying bugsbird mitesDate: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 9:44 AM

Hi, Marguerite,SOunds like my mom and i have the same bug as you. She can see hers flying around her. I have seen 2 around me. I feel for you, i know it is a hard fight. My mom has been at it for almost a year now as well. Glad to see you are trying new things. Please dont give up. The bugs dont die right away from the roach prufe, but it does eventually kill anything it touches. The more they move the faster they die.. You can use the bellow duster to get in all of those cracks and empty spaces, and just leave it there. It says that if Roach prufe is used in new construction, that it will keep bugs out of the building forever. It doesnt lose effectiveness, so instead of swiffering it up, think of more places to put it. You can clean it up when they are all dead. I will be thinking of you. Good luck. Keep on keeping on.Holly > > Last night I used Borax on one side of my face. I wanted to see if it > > dehydrated the skin and pores. Within minutes I could see my face > > (which is usually flushed)become pale. I was purging thing out of my > > skin (white hard) that were mixed with Demodex mites in the cheek area > > (natural)(cheeks are highest consentration of Demodex mites).The > > results would have been the same if I had used Boric acid as both are > > triggered by moisture. After 10 minutes I cleaned my face and applied > > my usual DSP cream. I think if the critters are not hard shelled they > > will be a goners if they get

into this stuff (thanks Rita). If you have > > Nano Particles (silicone)as some people believe then boric acid will > > turn them into Silly Putty.LOL... .WTG > >>

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M, please vacuum this up asap, everywheere you put it. You know I

care about you and do not want to see you doing anything to hurt

yourself. We will keep fighting to find a safe way to get these

buggers. Your body is telling you this is not good for you, listen to

it.

L/bob

> > > Last night I used Borax on one side of my face. I wanted to see

> if it

> > > dehydrated the skin and pores. Within minutes I could see my

face

> > > (which is usually flushed)become pale. I was purging thing out

of

> my

> > > skin (white hard) that were mixed with Demodex mites in the

cheek

> area

> > > (natural)(cheeks are highest consentration of Demodex

mites).The

> > > results would have been the same if I had used Boric acid as

both

> are

> > > triggered by moisture. After 10 minutes I cleaned my face and

> applied

> > > my usual DSP cream. I think if the critters are not hard

shelled

> they

> > > will be a goners if they get

> into this stuff (thanks Rita). If

> you have

> > > Nano Particles (silicone)as some people believe then boric acid

> will

> > > turn them into Silly Putty.LOL... .WTG

> > >

> >

>

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Tommy,

If you can, you may want to spray more often in your evironment.

Every 2 weeks won't get 'em. A bird mite can complete its life cycle

in 7 days... if you wait 2 weeks, you'll be right back to where you

started from every time you spray. We sprayed every 7 days for 5

weeks before we could get them knocked down.

Trly

>

> I am doing the same thing today and tomorrow what you are going to

do Tuesday.I am cleaning like a son of a gun then tomorrow after I

come home from church I will spray the goat shit out of my place.What

a way to spend Christmas..But this is what we have to do Marguerite

or we will never get out of this mess. I am going to spray my place

every two weeks with suspend and igr. I do read your post Marguerite

but don't recall if you are using the esp stuff. If not give it a try

it has helped me some.Take care.

>                                                                     

                     tommy

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Ms. M.,

Bob is right. Listen... take a deep breath and listen to your body...

Love ya gal,

Trly

>

> M, please vacuum this up asap, everywheere you put it. You know I

> care about you and do not want to see you doing anything to hurt

> yourself. We will keep fighting to find a safe way to get these

> buggers. Your body is telling you this is not good for you, listen to

> it.

> L/bob

>

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Tommy,

Our PCO used:

Demize CC <sp?> .03% Conc. 3oz.

Suspend SC .06% Conc. 1.5oz.

Precor IGR .0078% Conc. 1oz.

Kicker .023% Conc. 3oz.

per 1 gallon of water.

This was applied = sprayed and fogged once a week for 5 weeks (If I

remember correctly.)

This was back toward the end of April. By Mid June the bugs were

gone...

Hope this helps,

Trly

>

> Trly what did you guys use for a spray if you don't mind me asking?

thanks

>                                                             tommy

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Bobby -

I second that, whole-heartedly. One thing I learned the HARD WAY is

that by focusing on the environment while ignoring my health I made

EVERYTHING worse, including the environment.

I cannot stress enough how important it is to focus your efforts

FIRST on your body, inside and out, with the healthiest products you

can use including those that boost the immune system(beta glucan,

colostrum, pro-biotics, elderberry, vitamins/minerals, etc). On the

skin I recommend any of 3 products: espbotanicals.com

opalinesolutions.com or longlifeunlimited.com (Rapha skin care).

All three have been successful in drawing stuff out of the skin

without chemicals. In the bath, use Dead Sea Salt soaks (big jar for

$15 at TJ Maxx - get the kind with nothing added).

One site that focuses on inside/out as well as the environment is

homeandbodyhealth.com and sells pretty much everything you would

need. The woman who owns this site is a lovely lady, Wanda, who has

overcome the problem herself with 2 brief relapses. Trisha, of

course, at espbotanicals.com has lots of good info, too, as well as

selling the skincare line. Not sure if the environmental products

she has developed are on her site yet.

Of course you will focus on the environment, but work on cleansing

and restoring your body's health FIRST, then work on the

environment. I am not saying that every one of us has internal

infestation and are actually the SOURCE of the things in the

envirnoment, but we are definitely the majority.

And don't underestimate the power of prayer, although I will admit

there have been times when this is difficult. But don't worry about

that - God knows what you are going through and knows why some days

it is hard to talk to Him.

Bessie

> > > > Last night I used Borax on one side of my face. I wanted to

see

> > if it

> > > > dehydrated the skin and pores. Within minutes I could see my

> face

> > > > (which is usually flushed)become pale. I was purging thing

out

> of

> > my

> > > > skin (white hard) that were mixed with Demodex mites in the

> cheek

> > area

> > > > (natural)(cheeks are highest consentration of Demodex

> mites).The

> > > > results would have been the same if I had used Boric acid as

> both

> > are

> > > > triggered by moisture. After 10 minutes I cleaned my face and

> > applied

> > > > my usual DSP cream. I think if the critters are not hard

> shelled

> > they

> > > > will be a goners if they get

> > into this stuff (thanks Rita). If

> > you have

> > > > Nano Particles (silicone)as some people believe then boric

acid

> > will

> > > > turn them into Silly Putty.LOL... .WTG

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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I agree, i wouldnt want you to do anything to harm yourself. I do

think that the using Retin A for years probably did make your face

more sensitive.

> >

> > M, please vacuum this up asap, everywheere you put it. You know I

> > care about you and do not want to see you doing anything to hurt

> > yourself. We will keep fighting to find a safe way to get these

> > buggers. Your body is telling you this is not good for you,

listen to

> > it.

> > L/bob

> >

>

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