Re: How Long Must Clothes Soak?

[Guest guest]

I found out the same thing then I started baking my clothes at 200 for 1 hour.I now have no problems but it a big pain.And when I sleep through my alarm clock then I am screwed cause I have to microwave then.I burnt a hole in two shirts and two boxer shorts so far in the microwave.From: vbscribe <vbscribe@...>Subject: How Long Must Clothes Soak?bird mites Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 1:51 AM

It's finally sunk in that I can't get the things off my clothes

through normal wash and dry cycles, so I've resigned myself to the

soak method. How long do you have to soak your clothes to drown them

and/or dislodge the eggs?

[Guest guest]

After you wash and dry your clothes, you wear them. You are still

getting bit so you believe you need to soak. " Been there, done that "

and even boiled them. What is happening is the critters are coming out

of your skin. The big pin prick is (/groups/bodybugs/Photo

section) " Fried lice blue print " who will exit the skin thru the white

hole that is in the blue color. The little pin prick is " flied lice "

who also exits from the white hole in the blue color. These photos were

taken under the skin looking out. WTG...............................---

In bird mites , " vbscribe " <vbscribe@...> wrote:

>

> It's finally sunk in that I can't get the things off my clothes

> through normal wash and dry cycles, so I've resigned myself to the

> soak method. How long do you have to soak your clothes to drown them

> and/or dislodge the eggs?

>

[Guest guest]

I wash my clothes in Dr Bonner's peppermint, borax, arm and hammer

washing soda, chasity's H202 bleach find (color safe) and two shakes of

essential clove bud oil. I do not soak them, I wash in very hot water.

I dry them with two sheets of bounce free that I shake clove oil, with

a few other oils of choice on. Clove oil is suppose to kill dust mite

eggs so I'm hoping it's at least affecting these guys egg casings. It's

not suppose to be great for the plastic parts of the washer though. I

don't think that I am having any problem with my clothing.

bob

>

> It's finally sunk in that I can't get the things off my clothes

> through normal wash and dry cycles, so I've resigned myself to the

> soak method. How long do you have to soak your clothes to drown them

> and/or dislodge the eggs?

>

[Guest guest]

work for socks too? do you get black specks in your socks even with the

windex in your shoes? do you get movement in your feet inside your

socks, or from yhour socks? socks and shoes are a killer for me. can't

rewear hose or socks. not cheap. gonna try the hair dryer thing for

shoes, tho, got an extra plastic tub, the lid's in the garage

someplace...

KJ

* Dr Bonner's peppermint

* borax

* arm and hammer washing soda

* chasity's H202 bleach find (color safe)

* 2 shakes of essential clove bud oil

I do not soak them, I wash in very hot water.

I dry them with two sheets of bounce free that I shake clove oil, with

a few other oils of choice on.

Clove oil is suppose to kill dust mite eggs so I'm hoping it's

at least affecting these guys egg casings.

It's not suppose to be great for the plastic parts of the washer

though. I don't think that I am having any problem with my clothing.

bob

[Guest guest]

I never see black specs anymore on me. Just teeny teeny ones that are

clear, on the surface when I'm in the bath. My baths keep my mite

load way low - just the annoying stage - and no knockout GRRRRRR.

My feet are still a problem but I think it's my feet causing it, not

my socks or shoes. They are in there way deep. I always change my

socks twice a day. I need to do Bill's foot soaks, yes borax...lol. I

also just bought a stiff little scrub brush I'm going to hit the

soles really hard with. My next move, is to windex my shoes after

every wearing and then in addition to menthol them every time I wear

them. I'm going to put an inverted bin over the menthol melter and

give them a really strong, concentrated hit. Then menthol powder when

I put them on. I really want to get my feet under control.

You've pumped me for an all out environment/body attack with all the

success you've been having. Don't be discouraged by the good/bad

days. I think when I was purging really badly, it took me three or

four weeks to get to where I felt I had a light bug load. You're

doing great!

b

>

> * Dr Bonner's peppermint

> * borax

> * arm and hammer washing soda

> * chasity's H202 bleach find (color safe)

> * 2 shakes of essential clove bud oil

>

> I do not soak them, I wash in very hot water.

> I dry them with two sheets of bounce free that I shake clove oil,

with

> a few other oils of choice on.

> Clove oil is suppose to kill dust mite eggs so I'm hoping it's

> at least affecting these guys egg casings.

> It's not suppose to be great for the plastic parts of the washer

> though. I don't think that I am having any problem with my clothing.

> bob

>

[Guest guest]

Actually I'm not discouraged at all. This is great, the first

progress (read: an increase in shedding) that I have experienced in

years when I didn't force it by " burning " my scalp, which I did

almost every weekend by leaving the enzymes on my scalp overnight on

Friday night. By Monday night I was usually peeling and shedding

biters like crazy.

Habitat. That's what the head, feet, hands, groin, under breast area

for women, armpit, provide the critters. For example, when I used to

wash my hair in the shower, back in 1995 in my divorce house, before

I started doing the lice combing in the sink, the critters would grab

hold and hide in every crevice they could to avoid getting washed

down the drain. To a large extent they behave no differently than any

human would if threatened. Fight or flight.

I sure appreciate the encouragement from you and everyone else,

though, Bobby, because despite my positive spin on where I am in this

journey, that's a choice, and sometimes I have moments when I still

get very discouraged. When I tot everything up, though, comparatively

speaking, everything is going well and on schedule.

Affectionately,

KJ

>

> I never see black specs anymore on me. Just teeny teeny ones that

are

> clear, on the surface when I'm in the bath. My baths keep my mite

> load way low - just the annoying stage - and no knockout GRRRRRR.

> My feet are still a problem but I think it's my feet causing it,

not

> my socks or shoes. They are in there way deep. I always change my

> socks twice a day. I need to do Bill's foot soaks, yes borax...lol.

I

> also just bought a stiff little scrub brush I'm going to hit the

> soles really hard with. My next move, is to windex my shoes after

> every wearing and then in addition to menthol them every time I

wear

> them. I'm going to put an inverted bin over the menthol melter and

> give them a really strong, concentrated hit. Then menthol powder

when

> I put them on. I really want to get my feet under control.

> You've pumped me for an all out environment/body attack with all

the

> success you've been having. Don't be discouraged by the good/bad

> days. I think when I was purging really badly, it took me three or

> four weeks to get to where I felt I had a light bug load. You're

> doing great!

> b

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

WTG -

Yes, I too believe that our bodies are the primary source of whatever

is " bugging " us, and that is why our first priority ought to be our

bodies - inside and out, followed by the environment. It's like

swatting flies in your house but leaving the windows wide open while

you do it. Close the windows first, then handle what's in the house.

Bessie

> >

> > It's finally sunk in that I can't get the things off my clothes

> > through normal wash and dry cycles, so I've resigned myself to the

> > soak method. How long do you have to soak your clothes to drown

them

> > and/or dislodge the eggs?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Marc Neumann has a wash (laundry) protocol on his website, it is the

most extreme laundry protocol I've seen:

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/

Click on " Treatment Steps " , then " Wash Proposals " .

I soak my laundry for an hour in a mixture of bleach, white vinegar,

and borax, and sometimes laundry detergent if it doesn't dissolve my

laundry. The only detergent I've used that doesn't dissolve my

laundry is Cheer. The organic detergents interact badly with the

bleach and my clothes get damaged. All of my clothing is synthetics

at this point, but I still have to soak them to ensure no bugs are

living on them.

myrtle

>

> It's finally sunk in that I can't get the things off my clothes

> through normal wash and dry cycles, so I've resigned myself to the

> soak method. How long do you have to soak your clothes to drown them

> and/or dislodge the eggs?

>

[Guest guest]

Remember, if you don't want to be calling 911 or having someone else

call 911 for you, read the warnings on the cleaners you use. Some of

you that are using Windex might not know this is ammonia. Mix it with

bleach and you've created Clorine gas. Clorine gas will kill you

dead. WTG.....................................

> >

> > It's finally sunk in that I can't get the things off my clothes

> > through normal wash and dry cycles, so I've resigned myself to the

> > soak method. How long do you have to soak your clothes to drown

them

> > and/or dislodge the eggs?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill,

Thank you for the warning about mixing vinegar and bleach, I wasn't

aware of that. I didn't notice any breathing problems until I

switched laundry detergents recently, so maybe it's the vinegar that's

causing the problems. It is probably the least effective of the

chemicals that I'm using in the wash anyway.

I'm not aware of any 100% polyester workclothes you can buy. The

mechanics jumpsuits I used to buy at Sears were cotton/poly blends. A

lot of athletic wear is 100% poly or nylon, but depending on the type

of work you do, they may not be tough enough. The good quality

athletic wear that I have can tolerate a lot of abuse in the washing

machine, with all the toxic chemical combinations I've been using.

Fortunately, I haven't dropped dead yet from the chemicals.

Thanks again,

myrtle

> >>

> >> It's finally sunk in that I can't get the things off my clothes

> >> through normal wash and dry cycles, so I've resigned myself to the

> >> soak method. How long do you have to soak your clothes to drown them

> >> and/or dislodge the eggs?

> >>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Eh Joe

Gettin' da Aloha Shirtz (polyester)iz hard 2 find, Broda. Not in da

fashion here on da main land N wen get da kind dey in da supermarket

4 6 99. If U get da kind on da web U pay da guy da 35 clams a pop.

Walmart sell da sleeping bag Ozark Trail 75x33 3lb 4 14 99.

Pau...WTG

> >>

> >> It's finally sunk in that I can't get the things off my clothes

> >> through normal wash and dry cycles, so I've resigned myself to

the

> >> soak method. How long do you have to soak your clothes to drown

them

> >> and/or dislodge the eggs?

> >>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill,

I would recommend that you alternate your borax baths with apple cider

vinegar (ACV) baths. Use at least 2 quarts of cider vinegar in your

bath water, the water should taste sour. Either that or bath in lemon

or lime juice, but if that is not easily available to you, the ACV is

almost as good. I found that the acid baths (I bathe in either lime

juice or ACV depending on how many limes I have) did a great job of

killing the worm-like creatures in my skin.

myrtle

> > WOW Bill.  I did not know oxy-clean or dawn

> > had bleach in them.  I thought I was being very careful about NOT

mixing

> > ammonia and bleach together, but I have used ammonia and oxy-clean

together once

> > or twice.  Thanks for that tip.

> > Joan