Re: Decreased Number of Natural Killer Cells/ Repost

[Guest guest]

Rich,

Thanks for your vote of confidence. I read somewhere that a reporter

once asked Einstein what constituted " Scientific Proof " and he

replied something like " I'm sorry son, but that is too difficult a

question for me to answer. " He is also quoted as saying " What you can

count, doesn't always count, and what counts you cannot always

count. "

At any rate, from what I have seen and read out there, there is

overwhelming empirical evidence - which supports the theoretical/

hypothetical btw - out there regarding this issue and what it will

take is someone compiling both the quantitative and the qualitative

and putting the pieces of the puzzle together to present a case -

that will appeal to people's common sense regarding the issue.

The lymphocyte " hypothesis " is just one small piece of a much larger

picture.

Coghill, like other researchers who have come out suggesting with

their research that the microwaves are dangerous has been attacked

with attempts to discredit by a paid army of so-called " debunkers "

working for the cell phone industry. But this is also part of the

story. Why is their such a concerted attack on any researcher that

comes out with research that says these things are dangerous - and

why does the cell phone industry pay lots of other researchers a lot

of money to tell me and you that these things are safe?

For me the above is like a murderer hiring his own judge, prosecuter,

and jury to try his own case. Seriously!

One must ask oneself why 6000 German doctors would come out and write

the Freidburger Appeal which states the following:

_ FREIBURGER APPEAL 9 October 2002

Out of great concern for the health of our fellow human beings do we

- as established physicians of all fields, especially that of

environmental medicine - turn to the medical establishment and those

in public health and political domains, as well as to the public.

We have observed, in recent years, a dramatic rise in severe and

chronic diseases among our patients, especially:

? Learning, concentration, and behavioural disorders (e.g. attention

deficit disorder, ADD)

? Extreme fluctuations in blood pressure, ever harder to influence

with medications

? Heart rhythm disorders

? Heart attacks and strokes among an increasingly younger population

? Brain-degenerative diseases (e.g. AlzheimerÐs) and epilepsy

? Cancerous afflictions: leukemia, brain tumors

Moreover, we have observed an ever-increasing occurrence of various

disorders, often misdiagnosed in patients as psychosomatic:

? Headaches, migraines

? Chronic exhaustion

? Inner agitation

? Sleeplessness, daytime sleepiness

? Tinnitus

? Susceptibility to infection

? Nervous and connective tissue pains, for which the usual causes do

not explain even the most conspicuous symptoms

Since the living environment and lifestyles of our patients are

familiar to us, we can see especially after carefully-directed

inquiry - a clear temporal and spatial correlation between the

appearance of disease and exposure to pulsed high-frequency microwave

radiation (HFMR), such as:

? Installation of a mobile telephone sending station in the near

vicinity

? Intensive mobile telephone use

? Installation of a digital cordless (DECT) telephone at home or in

the neighbourhood

We can no longer believe this to be purely coincidence, for:

? Too often do we observe a marked concentration of particular

illnesses in correspondingly HFMR-polluted areas or apartments;

? Too often does a long-term disease or affliction improve or

disappear in a relatively short time after reduction or elimination

of HFMR pollution in the patient's environment;

? Too often are our observations confirmed by on-site measurements of

HFMR of unusual intensity._

Rich, I am of a social scientist per se, since I do enjoy research

and puzzles and making connections which others don't see. I'll leave

the quantitative research to people like yourself. I'm more

interested in the common sense part of it all - in putting the pieces

together. I'll leave the examination of the individual pieces to

others with that kind of inclination.

Regards,

paul doyon

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> > btw, what is so sketchy about the connection? It seems pretty

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> > cut to me.

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> > peace,

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> > paul

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