Re: sauna? hydrotherapy? liver cleanse?

July 16, 2006

Steve

I really benefit from saunas and sweating....

although I do not do well in the extreme heat and humidity we are currently

experiencing, I do take advantage of the weather to be out in it long enough

to get a good sweat going and then take a cool bath with EPsom salt.

mjh

" The Basil Book "

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Anyway... I went to the sauna last night (Jimjil-bang in Korean!),

and did quite a few intense sweats and some hot-cold hydrotherapy. I

felt bloody terrible all night and into today, like I do when I

exercise, and stunk like vomit (my girlfriend kept her distance!).

Now later in the next day, I feel perhaps more clear-headed than I

have in awhile. Does anyone here have luck with saunas and or

hydrotherapy in treating CFS?

July 17, 2006

Hi Steve, There is a sauna program for detox in San Francisco that I listened

to an interview on the radio for. It's actually a clinic. Anyway, what the

doctor in charge said about the smell is that saunas will go very deep and pull

toxins, or anything for that matter out. He related that he had been a pot

smoker in college, but had quit years earlier. The saunas brought out the smell

in his pores so much that his coworkers were accusing him of starting up again!

There's no doubt that saunas can be very useful for detoxing things that have

been in your body for ages. Just be sure to rehydrate. And drink plenty of

water for a few hours before you plan on going in. I won't even speculate why

your smell was ....ahem.

stevenhorr <sonofdelbert@...> wrote: Hi,

I've posted a few times recently, and have received a great deal of

help from this site in making crucial health decisions. I have

almost decided to stop seeing my CFS doctor in Seoul, as I just

can't seem to find any convincing evidence that spending $500 a

month to travel to Seoul every month for intravenous immunoglobulin

is doing me much good. I also have little faith in all the pills he

keeps prescribing for me (prozac, prednisone, etc).

Anyway... I went to the sauna last night (Jimjil-bang in Korean!),

and did quite a few intense sweats and some hot-cold hydrotherapy. I

felt bloody terrible all night and into today, like I do when I

exercise, and stunk like vomit (my girlfriend kept her distance!).

Now later in the next day, I feel perhaps more clear-headed than I

have in awhile. Does anyone here have luck with saunas and or

hydrotherapy in treating CFS? Also, my friend and I have been

thinking about trying a liver cleanse like that advocated by Hulda

and s Moritz. Has anyone here had any success with

this ?

Thanks very much,

Steve

July 17, 2006

On Jul 16, 2006, at 11:35 PM, stevenhorr wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I've posted a few times recently, and have received a great deal of

> help from this site in making crucial health decisions. I have

> almost decided to stop seeing my CFS doctor in Seoul, as I just

> can't seem to find any convincing evidence that spending $500 a

> month to travel to Seoul every month for intravenous immunoglobulin

> is doing me much good. I also have little faith in all the pills he

> keeps prescribing for me (prozac, prednisone, etc).

I'd be surprised if anyone here has had reasonable luck with any of

this stuff. (If they had, you'd have heard from them by now.)

> Anyway... I went to the sauna last night (Jimjil-bang in Korean!),

> and did quite a few intense sweats and some hot-cold hydrotherapy. I

> felt bloody terrible all night and into today, like I do when I

> exercise, and stunk like vomit (my girlfriend kept her distance!).

> Now later in the next day, I feel perhaps more clear-headed than I

> have in awhile.

There are quite a few people here who have had good luck using far-

infrared saunas in particular. Personally, I've gotten quite a bit of

temporary benefit from just plain old wet ones, myself. The working

theory is that we're as sick as we are due to our inability to

process the everyday toxin loads most people handle quite easily.

Saunas can help move that stuff out, making us feel considerably

better in the short run.

> Does anyone here have luck with saunas and or

> hydrotherapy in treating CFS? Also, my friend and I have been

> thinking about trying a liver cleanse like that advocated by Hulda

> and s Moritz. Has anyone here had any success with

> this ?

We've had several discussions of liver cleanses -- they seem to be

another popular medium-term support item. I've also gotten some

relief from these.

Sara

July 17, 2006

Steve,

You are on the same path as myself. My genes show problems in the detox

pathways. Saunas make all the difference for me. I am going to go twice a week.

(they make enough of a difference that I can get back on a treadmil!) I am also

looking into a liver cleanse. Haven't made up my mind which one yet. Pro-health

offers one, my doc has one and I am also looking into Standard Process.

Janet

in San Diego

Edy Rayfield <edyrayfield@...> wrote:

Hi Steve, There is a sauna program for detox in San Francisco that I

listened to an interview on the radio for. It's actually a clinic. Anyway, what

the doctor in charge said about the smell is that saunas will go very deep and

pull toxins, or anything for that matter out. He related that he had been a pot

smoker in college, but had quit years earlier. The saunas brought out the smell

in his pores so much that his coworkers were accusing him of starting up again!

There's no doubt that saunas can be very useful for detoxing things that have

been in your body for ages. Just be sure to rehydrate. And drink plenty of water

for a few hours before you plan on going in. I won't even speculate why your

smell was ....ahem.