Re: Totally non plagio...anybody know a good argument for having ano...

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Hey Jill. I totally think that you should be able to have at least one more baby if you want. I have met a lot of people who have twins right off the bat that either the husband or wife doesn't want to have another because they were only planning on having two in the first place, and by having twins, it was like an instant family. However, you might ask your husband if you had only had a single birth, would he be so reluctant to try again?

I know what you mean about getting the urge. My just turned 14 months and I am already planning out when I'm going to get pregnant again. This time it will be planned. I got pregnant with while taking the pill four months before my wedding! YIKES!!! (No one could even tell.) We are talking about trying next summer when my husband finishes the state patrol academy.

A friend of mine, her daughter just turned two, and the original plan between her and her husband was that when Sydnie turned two, they would start trying to have another one. Well, now her husband just flat out says, "No, no, no. No more kids." Now she's threatening things like, "Well, accidents happen." And then he threatens divorce if that happens, and then she says, "Well, I can divorce you for telling me before got married that you wanted at least two kids!"

Honestly, I think men have a weird thing with having daugters if they've already had a couple sons. And it isn't because boys are better or they can do more with a boy. I think a lot of men are wary of girls because they are afraid of the worry and responsibility and protectiveness they think becoming the father of a girl will bring. A father seems to doubly worry about things about his daughter, like sending her out on a date with a boy, etc., etc., and while mothers worry too, I think more mothers send their daughters out knowing they taught their daughters right! I know that's how it was with me and my mom and dad. My dad had no clue that I had a brain in my head to choose right from wrong or have any streetsmarts at all! My mom worried about normal things like drunk drivers late at night and car accidents, but she never worried about the choices I was making. My dad worried about everyone else around me.

Anyway, on a last note, I think especially with twins it is important to have other children, because of the fact that twins develop that special bond between each other, and it seems important to me to teach them to interact with another sibling so they know not to revolve around themselves all the time.

Anyway, I really don't know what I'm talking about. I'm just talking from what makes sense to me. You could always just use force and say, "That's it. We're having another one whether you like it or not and no more sex until it's to conceive." See how that grabs em! hehe

Kellie, mom of

Tacoma, WA

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That's funny Kellie, my friend is in the same exact boat, arguing over the

2nd or divorce.......she wants one, he doesn't. He didn't want the first,

but of course loves him. She threatens about the " accident " technique also.

Hubby and I discuss it, but then quickly say, " how " could we possibly handle

two? I can't see it happening for another couple of years, if at all. But I

have felt that urge to at times- and they say, what the heck are you

thinking, you complain about doing everything yourself now, can you imagine

double! Any moms out there with 2-3 kids with words of advice?

' Mom

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Kellie,

You said that perfectly!!!! I'm forwarding this to my husband!! He, too, is saying -- "No more" -- is our first. I had a miscarriage 3 years ago. I also think things would be very different if my first was a girl. I do not think there would be any question as to having another. Butttttt since I had a boy -- well, you know the story.....................

You guys (Kellie and Jill) have a great day!!

AnnMarie (mom to - 13 mos. and starting to get that urge!!)

STAR grad

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PS -- Hey Jill -- you go girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Let me tell you.... your first doesn't have to be a boy for Daddy to be stubborn about a second! My hubby said no, no, no, until it happened. It took him a while to get over the initial shock, but he's happy now! )

Kendra

Re: Totally non plagio...anybody know a good argument for having ano...

Kellie,

You said that perfectly!!!! I'm forwarding this to my husband!! He, too, is saying -- "No more" -- is our first. I had a miscarriage 3 years ago. I also think things would be very different if my first was a girl. I do not think there would be any question as to having another. Butttttt since I had a boy -- well, you know the story.....................

You guys (Kellie and Jill) have a great day!!

AnnMarie (mom to - 13 mos. and starting to get that urge!!)

STAR grad

Tort resolved

PS -- Hey Jill -- you go girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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There isn't that much difference for us with one or two. They are

22 months apart. My mom said there wasn't much difference between

having one kid and having two. She said there was a big difference

with the third. Niki probably can add her .02 here!

You already are doing the stuff that it's not that big of a deal to

add a little more. The big test will come when the get involved in

sports. Yikes! We want 2 more, but not for a while (long while!)

Dane's mom

> That's funny Kellie, my friend is in the same exact boat, arguing

over the

> 2nd or divorce.......she wants one, he doesn't. He didn't want

the first,

> but of course loves him. She threatens about the " accident "

technique also.

> Hubby and I discuss it, but then quickly say, " how " could we

possibly handle

> two? I can't see it happening for another couple of years, if at

all. But I

> have felt that urge to at times- and they say, what the heck are

you

> thinking, you complain about doing everything yourself now, can

you imagine

> double! Any moms out there with 2-3 kids with words of advice?

>

> ' Mom

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rella1234@... wrote:

>But I

have felt that urge to at times

No urge here!!! One and only - trust me! That's one thing hubby & I actually

agree on! hehe.

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

MI

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you complain about doing everything yourself now, can you imagine

> double! Any moms out there with 2-3 kids with words of advice?

>

> ' Mom

,

Just think of it this way, you made all your mistakes on the first

one. By the time you have another baby you'll know exactly what NOT

to do! ;o)

Seriously though, there definitley are some tough moments, but they

are overshadowed by all the good times, which believe it or not,

there are actually more good times than bad! I really don't have any

advice to share since I am no where near being June Cleaver. But I

do want to share this, everytime I go out with the kids someone

always stops me to ask me if they are all mine. When I answer with a

very tired but proud yes, they look at me like they pity me and

say, " Boy, you sure have your hands full " To which I reply, " Yes my

hands are very full. But I would rather have full hands than empty

ones. " And that is what gets me through my days. When the kids are

puking or screaming at each other or spilling their 3rd cup of juice

in the past 10 minutes, I have remind myself that I truly am very

blessed to have these wonderful beings in my life and I would be lost

without them. And whether we have one child or 10, we are all

blessed to have someone call us Mommy.

Oh man, am I a big sap or what?! ;o)

Niki

Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

Phila., PA

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I agree completly about going from 2 to 3 children. It was no big

deal at all when we had our second child but wooohoo when we had our

3rd we were completly overwhelmed. And she is an extremely GOOD baby

unlike my second child Chloe who was a terror at birth (haha but I

love her to death) Mya is 8 months old now and we are better but I

tell you those first couple of months I thought I was going to die.

And as far as the sports thing oh my goodness. Well my 7 year old has

Karate and also baseball and then both my 7 and 4 year old have AWANA

on wednesday nights and my 4 year old is starting ballet class in the

fall. When Mya gets into something I dont know what Im going to do.

And just think we still want more. Are we nuts or what?? Haha

CHristi mom to Mya (DOC band 3/6/02)

and and Chloe

> > That's funny Kellie, my friend is in the same exact boat, arguing

> over the

> > 2nd or divorce.......she wants one, he doesn't. He didn't want

> the first,

> > but of course loves him. She threatens about the " accident "

> technique also.

> > Hubby and I discuss it, but then quickly say, " how " could we

> possibly handle

> > two? I can't see it happening for another couple of years, if at

> all. But I

> > have felt that urge to at times- and they say, what the heck are

> you

> > thinking, you complain about doing everything yourself now, can

> you imagine

> > double! Any moms out there with 2-3 kids with words of advice?

> >

> > ' Mom

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Hahaha thats too funny Debbie

christi

>

> >But I

> have felt that urge to at times

>

>

> No urge here!!! One and only - trust me! That's one thing hubby &

I actually agree on! hehe.

>

> Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

> MI

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*sniffle* )

Kendra

Re: Totally non plagio...anybody know a good argument for having ano...

you complain about doing everything yourself now, can you imagine > double! Any moms out there with 2-3 kids with words of advice?> > ' Mom,Just think of it this way, you made all your mistakes on the first one. By the time you have another baby you'll know exactly what NOT to do! ;o)Seriously though, there definitley are some tough moments, but they are overshadowed by all the good times, which believe it or not, there are actually more good times than bad! I really don't have any advice to share since I am no where near being June Cleaver. But I do want to share this, everytime I go out with the kids someone always stops me to ask me if they are all mine. When I answer with a very tired but proud yes, they look at me like they pity me and say, "Boy, you sure have your hands full" To which I reply, "Yes my hands are very full. But I would rather have full hands than empty ones." And that is what gets me through my days. When the kids are puking or screaming at each other or spilling their 3rd cup of juice in the past 10 minutes, I have remind myself that I truly am very blessed to have these wonderful beings in my life and I would be lost without them. And whether we have one child or 10, we are all blessed to have someone call us Mommy.Oh man, am I a big sap or what?! ;o)NikiKaylie & Danny (STAR grads)Phila., PAFor more plagio info

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Oh how true Niki! Well put! was my trial run kid. With Chloe I

was wiser not much but some. Chloe didnt fall off my bed nearly as

many times as and Mya hasnt done it yet (just kidding).So I

guess Im getting better. Just think by my 5th or 6th kid I should be

a pro! But anyway

I only have 3 kids (Only haha) and when I go out people ask me the

same are all of them yours? And I say yes and first thing they say is

you are too young to have 3 kids (Im 26 but look about 16) and some

say wheww 3 kids I couldnt handle that. But I too have my frustrated

moments like as you said when the kids are puking or screaming or

spilling juice everywhere. But i agree totally that I am totally

blessed and so completly happy to be there mommy!! I love motherhood!

It is the greatest gift!

ANyway thats my two cents :-)

> you complain about doing everything yourself now, can you imagine

> > double! Any moms out there with 2-3 kids with words of advice?

> >

> > ' Mom

>

>

> ,

> Just think of it this way, you made all your mistakes on the first

> one. By the time you have another baby you'll know exactly what

NOT

> to do! ;o)

>

> Seriously though, there definitley are some tough moments, but they

> are overshadowed by all the good times, which believe it or not,

> there are actually more good times than bad! I really don't have

any

> advice to share since I am no where near being June Cleaver. But I

> do want to share this, everytime I go out with the kids someone

> always stops me to ask me if they are all mine. When I answer with

a

> very tired but proud yes, they look at me like they pity me and

> say, " Boy, you sure have your hands full " To which I reply, " Yes

my

> hands are very full. But I would rather have full hands than empty

> ones. " And that is what gets me through my days. When the kids

are

> puking or screaming at each other or spilling their 3rd cup of

juice

> in the past 10 minutes, I have remind myself that I truly am very

> blessed to have these wonderful beings in my life and I would be

lost

> without them. And whether we have one child or 10, we are all

> blessed to have someone call us Mommy.

>

> Oh man, am I a big sap or what?! ;o)

>

> Niki

> Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

> Phila., PA

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My hubby and I both joke that once you have three, you're already

outnumbered, so what difference does it make how many there are? :-)

Seriously, we have four and want to have another. People already think

we're crazy having more than two! But our kids are the biggest delight

of our lives; they are so precious. Really the only thing I wanted to

say was that more kids do equal more work, but 4 doesn't mean 4 times the

work of one. My kids are a lot of help around the house, even

considering that most of the mess is theirs! Can't wait until my

oldest is old enough to babysit, though.........

I say, go for it, Jill!

Wendi, mom to

Nate 2 1/2 (DOC grad)

Jenna 5

Kelsey 7

9 1/2

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 03:26:11 -0000 " niki_jay175 " <niki_jay175@...>

writes:

>

> you complain about doing everything yourself now, can you imagine

> > double! Any moms out there with 2-3 kids with words of advice?

> >

> > ' Mom

>

>

> ,

> Just think of it this way, you made all your mistakes on the first

> one. By the time you have another baby you'll know exactly what NOT

>

> to do! ;o)

>

> Seriously though, there definitley are some tough moments, but they

>

> are overshadowed by all the good times, which believe it or not,

> there are actually more good times than bad! I really don't have

> any

> advice to share since I am no where near being June Cleaver. But I

>

> do want to share this, everytime I go out with the kids someone

> always stops me to ask me if they are all mine. When I answer with

> a

> very tired but proud yes, they look at me like they pity me and

> say, " Boy, you sure have your hands full " To which I reply, " Yes my

>

> hands are very full. But I would rather have full hands than empty

>

> ones. " And that is what gets me through my days. When the kids are

>

> puking or screaming at each other or spilling their 3rd cup of juice

>

> in the past 10 minutes, I have remind myself that I truly am very

> blessed to have these wonderful beings in my life and I would be

> lost

> without them. And whether we have one child or 10, we are all

> blessed to have someone call us Mommy.

>

> Oh man, am I a big sap or what?! ;o)

>

> Niki

> Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads)

> Phila., PA

>

>

>

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Niki,

Very well said!!! Sometimes it's hard not to get caught up in the hectic

moment and say, wow, this is tough, but your absolutely right, even through

the worst (and gross) moments, it is such a blessing to have a child. I love

when gives me this big smile and comes running into my arms, among

countless other silly things that only us parents would know. My sister is

very anti-children (not that she hates them, just doesn't want one and is the

type that will roll her eyes at a screaming child anywhere). I cannot

convince her that motherhood is a blessing, and don't try to. It's a hugely

demanding job and its not for everyone. Thanks for your words of wisdom- and

I love your expression of having your hands full rather than empty- puts

everything into perspective right away!!!!! I tell my sister that its not

all about poop and tantrums, but perhaps if I put it into your words, she

just might get it!

By the way, THREE SETS OF TWINS!!!! YIKES!! My mom had a girl, a boy, and

then us twins, boy/girl- so that sealed the deal for my parents, they were

done!! Have a great day!

' Mom

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My DH and I waited 5 years between our first and second (who is our 3 1/2 month

old plagio baby). Our first was a difficult baby (colic, reflux, pneumonia,

bronchitis, etc.) and I had postpartum which was further complicated by a bad

migraine condition. Needless to say, it was a difficult first year adjusting.

We thought we couldn't handle any more. However, as our daughter grew up [and us

too:)] we decided we wanted another. The perspective of time really made a

difference. Our children were born 5 years and 15 days apart and it's

wonderful. We are much more relaxed and find that we actually get more

accomplished this time than we ever did with one.

Sometimes I think I want to have one more but now my medical condition prevents

this and I'm having trouble adjusting to that. But I am grateful for the two

beautiful healthy ones I have!! Good luck to you!!

(MI) mom to Regan (5) and (3 1/2 mos., helmet in the future)

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In a message dated 03/20/2002 3:11:37 PM Central Standard Time,

dj2kirby@... writes:

<< No urge here!!! One and only - trust me! That's one thing hubby & I

actually agree on! hehe. >>

Here, here! Couldn't agree more Debbie!! LOL! I also have a stepson and even

though he lives far away and we don't get to see him very often :-( we still

pay for him full time and we just don't want to over-extend ourselves for

what we can afford!

Marci :-)

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don't want to over-extend ourselves for

what we can afford!

Marci:

LOL - I just don't want to over-extend myself for what I can

handle!!!

I knew you would agree with me!

I of course love Abby more than anything, but wow, she is a handful

(esp. after I carried all 36 lbs of her 4 blocks back home kicking &

screaming while pushing her stroller last night becuz I wouldn't let

her run in the road, mean aren't I?)! LOL

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

MI

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In a message dated 3/21/02 10:49:37 AM Central Standard Time, dj2kirby@...

writes:

<< (esp. after I carried all 36 lbs of her 4 blocks back home kicking &

screaming while pushing her stroller last night becuz I wouldn't let

her run in the road, mean aren't I?)! LOL >>

Oh my - what a mean mommy!!! LOL - sounds like something Meg would do!

Marci