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Hi

seemed to think that the patients had done well.

this was presented at Barcelona, and she was reporting

on the report from there - she hadn't spoken to

patients.

jill

--- yakcamp22 <yakcamp22@...> wrote:

> I have always heard that the side effect of

> galvancylovir were very

> bad. Can't remember what they are. So is gal safe

> or what?

>

> Mike C

>

>

> In ,

> " lifelonglearner79 "

> <lifelonglearner79@...> wrote:

> >

> > QUESTIONS and ANSWERS with Dr Klimas

> > From Wellington Patient Lecture date 8th September

> 2006

> >

> > By Jill Diprose

> > What is HHV6 virus ? and what is the therapy?

> >

> > HHV 6 is a virus, there are two types - a and b.

> We are talking

> > about type a.

> > It is the virus that causes measles in childhood,

> usually lasts

> maybe

> > 3

> > days. Therefore all of us have had it, and it is

> usually held in

> > check our

> > immune system.

> >

> > Some believe it to be the set up virus for

> epilepsy and there is

> > large body

> > of work implicating it in MS (at least in a

> subgroup). They are

> just

> > beginning clinical trails of therapy at the NIH

> for MS.

> >

> > Now HHV6 is being studied in CFS and it appears

> to be playing a

> role

> > in at

> > least a subgroup of CFS patients. Remember

> and Knox had

> > showed

> > it in spinal fluid. HHV6 definitely shouldn't have

> been there and

> the

> > big

> > gun treatments for the virus are valid in those

> proven cases.

> >

> > The exciting new research was the work by Dr

> Montanya at the

> > University of Stanford . He is new to the CFS

> world and his first

> > study was

> > based on serology .ie high antibody levels (4 fold

> + incr to both

> > HHV6 and

> > EBV) . He was using the new oral valgancyclovir.

> It was a great

> > small

> > study, titres went down, 9/12 patients improved

> meaning they went

> > back to

> > work.<<<<snip>>>>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

Like you, I seldom get colds, but when I do they seem to be associated

with a time of relative improvement in health. I do seem to regard tham

as a good sign, despite the fact that I really hate anything 'in the

head'.

Rosie

Dr Cheney didn't think so.

His explanation was that the viral infection had us so

overwhelmingly upregulated that common colds don't get a foothold.

He called us " The Invulnerables " when this little quirk of not

catching stuff showed up.

I must say that the " immune-weakness-you-brought-this-on-yourself-

by-bad-diet-drugs-stress-etc " theorists seemed almost gleeful when

they predicted we would all die at the very next cold or flu that

went through. They had this " Just what you deserve " smirk.

So sorry to disappoint them. Haven't had a single cold since 1985.

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[Guest guest]

,

Oh dear. I haven't had a cold in years. So long ago I don't even remember.

Is the TH1 to TH2 something that Dr. Shoe addresses?

Re: This came from cocure....from Dr.

Klimas

" Rosie " <rosiecox@...> wrote:

>

> Hi ,

> Like you, I seldom get colds, but when I do they seem to be

associated with a time of relative improvement in health. I do seem

to regard tham as a good sign, despite the fact that I really hate

anything 'in the head'.

> Rosie

Yes, I've heard that from others too, that the ability to catch colds

again correlates to restoration of TH1/TH2 ability to shift back and

forth as it should.

So I take it as a bad sign that I've never got one stinking cold.

Darn it!

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Thanks Amelia,

I take the whey ImmunoPro, but haven't tried TF. I'll order some soonest. All

I seem to get is the " stomach flu " about every three weeks or so.

Re: This came from cocure....from Dr.

Klimas

> >

> > Hi ,

> > Like you, I seldom get colds, but when I do they seem to be

> associated with a time of relative improvement in health. I do

seem

> to regard tham as a good sign, despite the fact that I really

hate

> anything 'in the head'.

> > Rosie

>

> Yes, I've heard that from others too, that the ability to catch

colds

> again correlates to restoration of TH1/TH2 ability to shift back

and

> forth as it should.

> So I take it as a bad sign that I've never got one stinking cold.

> Darn it!

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>

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If you stay home a lot, away from people, esp kids, a lot, stay in bed a lot, yr

less likely to get colds.

Adrienne

Re: This came from cocure....from Dr.

Klimas

" Rosie " <rosiecox@...> wrote:

>

> Hi ,

> Like you, I seldom get colds, but when I do they seem to be

associated with a time of relative improvement in health. I do seem

to regard tham as a good sign, despite the fact that I really hate

anything 'in the head'.

> Rosie

Yes, I've heard that from others too, that the ability to catch colds

again correlates to restoration of TH1/TH2 ability to shift back and

forth as it should.

So I take it as a bad sign that I've never got one stinking cold.

Darn it!

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Actually, just this evening I feel my throat tickling, and my nose

revving up - interesting, not least as a 'telephone friend' with ME is

in the middle of a stinking cold, and is also (whilst still very

unwell), much better than she has been for a while. I hope it is a good

sign!

Rosie

,

Oh dear. I haven't had a cold in years. So long ago I don't even

remember. Is the TH1 to TH2 something that Dr. Shoe addresses?

Re: This came from cocure....from Dr.

Klimas

" Rosie " <rosiecox@...> wrote:

>

> Hi ,

> Like you, I seldom get colds, but when I do they seem to be

associated with a time of relative improvement in health. I do seem

to regard tham as a good sign, despite the fact that I really hate

anything 'in the head'.

> Rosie

Yes, I've heard that from others too, that the ability to catch colds

again correlates to restoration of TH1/TH2 ability to shift back and

forth as it should.

So I take it as a bad sign that I've never got one stinking cold.

Darn it!

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