Guest guest Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Hello Sue, To the Vaccinations mailing list (which I joined a few weeks ago), you (<mum2mishka@...>) wrote, Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:30:05 +0800, subject " Horse Antibodies Against The Bird Flu Virus H5N1 Are Effective As Treatment In Mice " : " Right, everyone off to the stables....!! I am sooooo reassured by the fact that antibodies produced by HORSES protect MICE against BIRD flu. What is this stupid world coming to....? " This reply to you I've put at my homepage too, in item NWBC 141 in its section " News with brief comments " , and am sending also to some other addresses (newsgroups, mailing lists etc): I'm very reassured too! At least we can't complain that the ruling persons in the world today aren't sometimes being quite funny! In addition to stupid, I mean. (I'm quoting the rest of your posting further below.) This " new discovery " of theirs is a new twist - pretty ridi- culous too, at least to us who know the basic facts about this thing - in their big attempt to make people believe that there actually is " a contagious bird flu " , that there actually is a " virus H5N1 " , so that " hopefully " , they can get people to accept some mass vaccinations " against " this phantom " virus " . As you oldtimers at the Vaccinations list have known about such things since long, this precisely would cause serious harm to ordinary people - which is what those ruling persons actually want, in this case. As explained also in detail by the German virologist Stefan Lanka in an interview on 27.10.2005, reproduced in English in " UNITE! Info #251en " at my homepage (and there are some excerpts from it at some other websites): [http://www.faktuell.de/Hintergrund/Background367.shtml http://rolf-martens.com/UNITE%21%20Infos/webstyle1/ unite_info_251en.html http://liam.gnn.tv/ http://www.phillyimc.org/en/2006/03/19504.shtml http://indymedia.us/en/2006/03/14902.shtml] " ...Those side effects which are noted on the instruction slips accompanying packages of Tamiflu are almost identical to the symptoms of a serious influenza. On a large scale, thus, medicines are now being stored which cause precisely the same symptoms as those which appear in an actual so- called influenza - and which will discontinue, with a doctor, after seven days, and without a doctor after a week. If Tamiflu is administered to sick persons, then this is likely to cause far more serious symptoms than those of a serious influenza. If a pandemic is stated to exist, then many people will take this medicine at the same time. In that case we will actually have unequivocal symptoms of a Tamiflu epidemic. Then also deaths caused by Tamiflu are to be expected, and this will then be presented as evidence of the dangerous nature of the bird flu and evidence of how anxious is the state that people should be in good health. ... " So, if they do get people, in one or several regions or countries, to accept mass vaccinations, or accept mass " medication " with Tamiflu, then they'll say: " April's Fool! - Now we do have that H5N1 pandemic which we told you about to begin with! So you'll just have to accept even more vaccinations, even more 'medication'! " I recently read somewhere that in one country at least, in Uruguay, there is a danger that the authorities will soon enforce such mass vaccinations - if so, fooled into this by the ruling persons in the USA etc and by the WHO - and have tried to warn against this by sending a certain " News with brief comments " item, No. 133 (of 27.03), at my homepage to several Usenet newsgroups and to other addresses. At worst, there in a few weeks' time will be reports of a (purported) " bird flu pandemic " " having begun in Uruguay " . Let's hope that this will not occur. It seems that the ruling persons won't dare to realize their mass " anti-H5N1 " vaccina- tion schemes here in Europe or in the USA, at least - " too many " there probably already " know too much " about this scam of theirs with the intent of mass murder. Here's the rest of your posting, the part in which you quoted that stupid " report " about the fantastic " horse-mice- bird " " discovery " : " http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/060330084126.htm Horse Antibodies Against The Bird Flu Virus H5N1 Are Effective As Treatment In Mice Antibodies against the bird flu virus H5N1, derived from horses, prevent mice infected with H5N1 from dying from the virus. A study published in the open access journal Respira- tory Research (http://respiratory-research.com) reveals that a dose of 100 µg of horse anti-serum effectively protects infected mice. These results suggest that anti-H5N1 anti- bodies developed in horses could potentially be used to prevent death from H5N1 influenza, or as early treatment for the disease, in humans. Jiahai Lu from Sun Yat-Sen University in Guangzhou, China and colleagues from other institutions in China infected dog kidney cells in vitro with a lethal dose of H5N1 and simul- taneously exposed the cells to horse antibodies against H5N1. Lu et al.'s results show that horse antibodies to H5N1 protected cells against H5N1 in vitro – the cells simulta- neously infected with H5N1 and exposed to horse antibodies did not die. Lu et al. then injected horse antibodies into 40 mice that had been infected with a lethal dose of H5N1 24 hours earlier. The authors also injected horse serum without H5N1 antibodies into a group of mice that acted as controls. The authors found that 50µg of antibody protected 70% of the mice against death by H5N1 and 100 µg of antibody protected 100% of the mice. The mice in the control group died nine hours after receiving the normal horse serum. " Happy 1 April to everybody (except some very few, you know who)! 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