How to Get Intravenous Vitamin C Given to a Hospitalized Patient

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Here's something I saved from a previous post of Sheri N's:

Kay

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I don't know.........good luck.........I've worked in them thar places and

they are like a fascist empire.

Sheri

Following is a superb check list extracted from the information dense

Doctor Yourself site . It is becoming abundantly clear that the so called

experts will continue to subject us to mostly profitable toxic drugs and

medical procedure when so many simple and safe alternatives are continually

ignored. Dr. Saul's check list is an indispensable practical guide for

dealing with these self serving authorities. All should read and use. It is

clear that we will have to force the medical system kicking, screaming and

shouting to do what they will not do on their own...

Gupta

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2004/11/30/how_to_get_intravenous_vita

min_c_given_to_a_hospitalized_patient.htm

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How to Get Intravenous Vitamin C Given to a Hospitalized Patient

Intravenous Vitamin C Checklist

1) Know before you go. It is immeasurably easier to get what you want if

you contract for it beforehand. Prenuptial agreements, new car deals,

roofing and siding estimates, and hospital care need to be negotiated in

advance. When the tow truck comes, it is too late to complain about who's

driving. Same with an ambulance, or a hasty hospital admission. You have to

pre-plan, and here's how:

2) Get a letter. Yes, a " note from the doctor " still carries clout. Have

you general practitioner, today if possible, sign a letter stating that he

backs your request for a vitamin C I.V. drip, 10 grams per 12 hours, should

you (or your designated loved one) require hospitalization. Have copies

made and keep them handy. Update the letter annually. You now have your

G.P.'s permission. Good start, but not enough.

3) Get some more letters. Obtain a similar letter form every specialist

that you have used, are using, or may use in the foreseeable future. This

sounds cumbersome, but is no more unmanageable than most people's grocery

lists. Keep it in perspective: this is just as important as wearing a

medical alert bracelet or keeping a fresh battery in Grandpa's pacemaker.

4) Make some calls. Telephone a representative or two from every hospital

within one hundred miles of your home. Find out which wants your business

the most. When you find a " live one " on the phone, write down their name

and title, and follow up with a letter.

5) Write for your rights. In your letter, ask for the hospital's permission

to have a vitamin C IV drip, infusion, push or injection, as well as oral

vitamin C, should you or your designated family member(s) come in to that

hospital. YOU MUST GET THIS IN WRITING. Now, do NOT say, " I want that in

writing, " because people do not like that. But if you WRITE to them by US

Mail, they will naturally write back to you. Bingo.

Helpful hint: do NOT correspond by email; you want a real signature on

hospital letterhead. (And no, don't ask for that either! It will happen

automatically if you write first.)

You might be wondering, What if they write back, " No, we won't. " Hold onto

that letter. You can make a real stink with it should you need to play

hardball in court, and I do NOT mean a handball court.

These actions are much more likely, however:

a) They simply will not write back. OK, so ask yourself this: What if your

credit card company didn't respond to your letters? So would you entrust

your life to a hospital that refuses to even answer their mail? Make a

point to go someplace else. If you live in a rural community or smaller

city, you might be thinking that you do not have a choice of hospitals.

Maybe not for the first 24 hours in an unexpected circumstance. But people

can be moved. That's what modern transportation is for. Famous hospitals

get people from all over. How many people do you know that live within

walking distance of Sloan-Ketterling, Roswell, the Brigham, or the Mayo

Clinic?

What is most likely is that the hospital's representative will send you

a garbage answer, with a response so noncommittal as to be unusable. This

may mean that your wrote the wrong person, or wrote the wrong letter. Try

this: have your doctor " write " the letter. The doctor's letterhead and

signature; your composition. Go ahead; you can give a professional a rough

draft of what you want said. I had lawyer ask me to do exactly that when I

sought (and succeeded in getting) a vitamin C IV into my hospitalized

father. I wrote it and faxed it to the attorney; his staff rewrote it on

his stationery and he signed it. It saves time.

Helpful hint: Be sure your (doctor's) letter clearly REQUESTS A REPLY.

Another Helpful hint: FAX wherever you can to save time. Always send a

back-up copy of the letter by postal mail. Then, write again to confirm

that they received it.

c) It is also quite possible that they will ask for more information. This

could be a genuine interest, but it is more likely a stall. If you think

Nero fiddled whilst Rome burned, you should see what medical bureaucrats

can do. To cut through the treacle, you need to understand the nature of

the beast. The first rule of lion taming is, You have to know more than the

lions. Therefore:

6. Know the law. Many states have enacted legislation that makes it

possible for a physician to provide any natural therapy that a patient

requests without fear of losing his or her license. If your state has such

a law, it will make it somewhat easier to get a doctor to prescribe a

vitamin C IV.

7. Know the power structure. Find out who is in charge.

I have heard doctors say that they'd be happy to start a megavitamin C IV

but the hospital will not let them. Then, when asked, I have heard the

hospital say that they allow vitamin C IV's but the doctors won't do them.

To avoid an endless Catch-22 situation, you have to know the ropes and

where everybody stands.

On the doctor side:

Which physician (as opposed to witch doctor) is in charge? It could be the

attending surgeon; it could be your general practitioner; it could be the

chief resident. One thing is for sure: someone has the power to prescribe.

Go to the person that can do you the most good (or harm) and start your

negotiations there. If you can persuade the king, the castle is yours.

On the hospital side:

Which of the administrators has the clout? Talk to their secretaries (they

are the people who really run things anyway) and you will find out. It

could be that the most influential person for you may be the hospital's

patient rights advocate or V. P. for customer service. It might even be the

public relations director. Who knows? You sure don't, so remove the veil of

anonymity and find out.

On the patient side:

The patient, if conscious, has all the power because it is his/her body. If

a patient insists loud and long enough, s/he can get almost anything. Since

patients tend to be sick, and therefore easily slip into becoming

non-combatants, a family member has to get in there and pitch for them. A

highly experienced nurse told me that she would never leave a family member

in a hospital without a 24-hour-a-day guard in the form of a friend or

family member or other advocate. That is sound advice from a lady who's

seen it.

Next to the patient, the most powerful family member is the spouse. After

that, it would be children. You do not have to have power of attorney to

have power, but it helps. If the patient is unable to speak, act, or think,

it may be essential. Do not wait until the patient is incapacitated to plan

this. Your family needs to come together (difficult though this may be) and

present a preplanned, unified front to the medical and administrative

people. You may think I am overstating the case, but I have seen patients

die simply because NO ONE TOOK THE REINS AND GOT THE VITAMIN C IN THE

VEINS. I have seen vitamin C IV's halted simply because the patient was

moved to (or from) intensive care. Think that one over. I have seen vitamin

C prescriptions over-ridden by a nurse or a pharmacist. You would not think

that possible, would you. Well, it is. There is no nice way to phrase this.

Stay on top of the situation or you will have a premature burial on your

hands.

8. Know your recourse. If you are rich, get your lawyer on the phone.

Better yet, bring your lawyer into the hospital. If you are like the rest

of us, you may simply have to bluff if you threaten to call your attorney.

The purpose here is to save the life of your loved one, not to make a buck

from a malpractice suit. Personally, I think malpractice suits are a sign

of the most abject failure on the part of the family, as well as the

medical profession. In the same way that accident insurance does not

prevent accidents but only pays the costs, so do malpractice settlements

fail to resuscitate a dead family member. " Death control " is somewhat like

birth control in that you have to act before the event takes place. But if

we push the analogy, we realize a grim truth: there is no such thing as a

" morning after " pill for rigor mortis, nor can you abort a funeral.

9. Know the facts about vitamin C IV's. For this, there is absolutely no

alternative to reading up on the subject. Here is what you will want to

begin with:

http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html

http://www.doctoryourself.com/vitaminc.html

http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html

http://www.doctoryourself.com/biblio_cathcart.html

http://www.doctoryourself.com/naturedoc.html

http://www.doctoryourself.com/hospitals.html

Professionally speaking, I am not really all that interested in vitamins. I

am, however, extremely interested in saving life. The reading I referenced

above may make all the difference in your case.

10. Know how to settle controversy and avoid the run-around.

Doctors and hospitals are quick to offer rather bogus reasons why they

would deny your request for a vitamin C IV. Each of these arguments is a

lot of bull, and easily refuted.

Their argument: " We do not have Vitamin C for intravenous infusion in our

pharmacy "

Your response: " So get some. From another hospital; by Fed Ex, by medevac

helicopter. Or, just make it yourselves. Look: here's instructions on how

to prepare it, written by a highly experienced physician.

Their argument: " We have never done this before. "

Your response: " Then this is a wonderful opportunity to learn. I've never

lost a (insert family member's position here) before. "

Their Argument: " The patient is too ill. "

Your response: " That's why we want the vitamin C IV. "

Their argument: " We might get into trouble if we do this. "

Your response: " You will be in legal trouble for sure if you don't. "

Their argument: " There is no scientific evidence that this is safe,

effective, appropriate for this case, blah, blah, blah. "

Your response: " Read this. " (This short phrase is to be spoken as you

produce a large stack of actual medical studies written by medical doctors

who have successfully used vitamin C IV's. See references mentioned above.)

Their argument: " But we do not have time to read all those papers. "

Your response: " That's OK. I already have, and it's my body (or my

father's, or my mother's). Run the vitamin C IV. Start with 10 grams every

12 hours and do not stop it without my written authorization. "

Their argument: " This hospital operates under our authority, these are our

rules, and this is the way it is done. "

Your response: " This is my mother. If you deny her the treatment the family

requests, you will be sued, and we will win. Do you really want to go to

the wall on this one? "

Confrontational? Admittedly, yes. But I have seen too many people die too

soon. Dr. Frederick Klenner was right when he said, " Some physicians

would stand by and see their patient die rather than use ascorbic acid

(vitamin C) because in their finite minds it exists only as a vitamin. "

Don't let it happen to your family.

Reprinted from the book DOCTOR YOURSELF, copyright 2004 and prior years by

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