Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Sue, Get yourself on " jstsayno2vaccs " a List for dogs/cats. We have been discussing this topic the last week. You'll need two references. You can use me and if sagacious on this list ( she's on the Jstsaynotovaccs list) , is willing, as a second. Haven't seen her for a while OMG, I would be furious as H--- at the moment. There's somethings I can suggest. Cancer loves an acidic body so alkalize (lots of fruit and veg) where you can. Give Mishka EPA, the fish oil. I have been doing lots of research on this and it blows my mind why the medical community does not use this normal intervention in cancer. Pubmed has lots of citations on improvement of many types of cancer with EPA. It will for example kill a breast cancer cell in vitro on contact. Try and put his paws in Epsom Salts solution on a daily basis.( If she licks it off, no worries. In small amounts, good for teh gut also.) I am finding higher incidence of cancer in individuals with sulphation problems, that is the homocysteine pathway is not able to manufacture the end result sulphate. ( Sulphate is the substance that attaches to toxins and renders them non-toxic) This is hindered by lead, cadmium, arsenic AND mercury!! Good luck. Keep your spirits up Sue. I'll help where I can! Possible canine sarcoma - x-post > Does anyone on this list have any experience with canine sarcomas? I know > that many of you have had adverse vaccine reactions in your dogs. > > Our beloved German Shepherd, Mishka, may possibly have a sarcoma. He has > a > lump on his shoulder that has recently become a lot larger. It looks > pretty > nasty, and we had him booked in to see our homoeopathic vet next Tuesday. > However my husband sent the vet some photographs of the tumour and she has > replied that we should take him to a vet that has surgical facilities and > get the lump excised and biopsied. She is seriously concerned that it may > be a vaccine-induced sarcoma. > > We are so angry about this. He is 2½ years old and we only had him > vaccinated so that we could bring him with us to Australia. We could have > left him in the UK, but he would have pined for the family and anyone that > rehomed him would probably have vaccinated him anyway. We gave > homoeoprophylaxis at the time he was vaxed to counter any vaccinosis, but > it > appears that despite that, he may still be paying the price for our sins. > My husband is beating himself up over it - he says if he hadn't accepted > his > job here, then Mishka would never have been vaccinated, but it's history, > it's done, now we just have to try and put it right. > > He's going to the allopathic vet's tomorrow morning for an assessment, and > our homoeopathic vet has asked that we obtain some of the biopsy tissue > preserved in alcohol so that she can potentise it. That, to me, seems > like > the best possible treatment but it's going to test my faith in homoeopathy > to the limit. There is still a chance that the tumour is innocuous, but > I'm > not holding my breath. > > Please think of us and if anyone has had a dog or other companion animal > recover completely from this, I'd love to hear about it. > > Love, light and peace, > > Sue > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 I am so sorry to hear this, Sue. Please do check into homeopathy for Mishka. I know of 2 osteosarcoma cases on the TAV/CHP lists that have been cured with homeopathy. Saying a prayer for Mishka's healing! Kay Possible canine sarcoma - x-post > Does anyone on this list have any experience with canine sarcomas? I know > that many of you have had adverse vaccine reactions in your dogs. > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Hi Sue, I don't have any suggestions to help you, I don't know much about dog's health problems, but I just wanted to let you know that I know how worrying this must be for you right now. Sending lots of hugs and love to you and your dog! Ingrid > > Does anyone on this list have any experience with canine sarcomas? I know > that many of you have had adverse vaccine reactions in your dogs. > > Our beloved German Shepherd, Mishka, may possibly have a sarcoma. He has a > lump on his shoulder that has recently become a lot larger. It looks pretty > nasty, and we had him booked in to see our homoeopathic vet next Tuesday. > However my husband sent the vet some photographs of the tumour and she has > replied that we should take him to a vet that has surgical facilities and > get the lump excised and biopsied. She is seriously concerned that it may > be a vaccine-induced sarcoma. > > We are so angry about this. He is 2½ years old and we only had him > vaccinated so that we could bring him with us to Australia. We could have > left him in the UK, but he would have pined for the family and anyone that > rehomed him would probably have vaccinated him anyway. We gave > homoeoprophylaxis at the time he was vaxed to counter any vaccinosis, but it > appears that despite that, he may still be paying the price for our sins. > My husband is beating himself up over it - he says if he hadn't accepted his > job here, then Mishka would never have been vaccinated, but it's history, > it's done, now we just have to try and put it right. > > He's going to the allopathic vet's tomorrow morning for an assessment, and > our homoeopathic vet has asked that we obtain some of the biopsy tissue > preserved in alcohol so that she can potentise it. That, to me, seems like > the best possible treatment but it's going to test my faith in homoeopathy > to the limit. There is still a chance that the tumour is innocuous, but I'm > not holding my breath. > > Please think of us and if anyone has had a dog or other companion animal > recover completely from this, I'd love to hear about it. > > Love, light and peace, > > Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Sue, My dog was cured of osteosarcoma (bone cancer) by the homeopath who owns the ClassicalHomeopathyPets list (CHP for short - and also the TruthAboutVaccines group - TAV for short). I would get signed up on those lists and inquire there. If you aren't already feeding a diet of raw meaty bones (raw meat, bones, organs) it's something to look into. It is a cancer starving diet - the grains in kibble will feed the cancer (to learn more about this diet the " rawfeeding " list is the best). I think it's one of the reasons my dog is still here (2 years post-diagnosis). The only thing I treated her with was homeopathy - and it was amazing to see the follow-up x-rays after 6 months of treatment show the tumor to be gone. By the way, homeoprophylaxis is the improper use of homeopathy. You can't antidote the harm from vaccines at the time the vaccine is given. The proper way to treat vaccine damage with homeopathy is to treat based on the complete symptom picture AFTER the symptoms appear. You will learn a lot on the CHP and TAV lists - they are great groups. All the best for Mishka, Diane mum2mishka <mum2mishka@...> wrote: Does anyone on this list have any experience with canine sarcomas? I know that many of you have had adverse vaccine reactions in your dogs. Our beloved German Shepherd, Mishka, may possibly have a sarcoma. He has a lump on his shoulder that has recently become a lot larger. It looks pretty nasty, and we had him booked in to see our homoeopathic vet next Tuesday. However my husband sent the vet some photographs of the tumour and she has replied that we should take him to a vet that has surgical facilities and get the lump excised and biopsied. She is seriously concerned that it may be a vaccine-induced sarcoma. We are so angry about this. He is 2½ years old and we only had him vaccinated so that we could bring him with us to Australia. We could have left him in the UK, but he would have pined for the family and anyone that rehomed him would probably have vaccinated him anyway. We gave homoeoprophylaxis at the time he was vaxed to counter any vaccinosis, but it appears that despite that, he may still be paying the price for our sins. My husband is beating himself up over it - he says if he hadn't accepted his job here, then Mishka would never have been vaccinated, but it's history, it's done, now we just have to try and put it right. He's going to the allopathic vet's tomorrow morning for an assessment, and our homoeopathic vet has asked that we obtain some of the biopsy tissue preserved in alcohol so that she can potentise it. That, to me, seems like the best possible treatment but it's going to test my faith in homoeopathy to the limit. There is still a chance that the tumour is innocuous, but I'm not holding my breath. Please think of us and if anyone has had a dog or other companion animal recover completely from this, I'd love to hear about it. Love, light and peace, Sue Diane Ruzzi Ask me about JuicePlus http://www.juiceplus.com/+dr02574 --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Feline sarcoma. A homeless cat we adopted developed cancer on the shoulder of her right front leg, vets acknowledged could have been due to a vax in that leg. With her, the lump also grew suddenly, over a period of about 1 week. We took her to a specialist who removed the leg. She's doing great, though. Toughest cat in the house, chases all the other cats on three legs. -Angie On Wednesday, August 16, 2006, at 06:10 AM, mum2mishka wrote: > Does anyone on this list have any experience with canine sarcomas? I > know > that many of you have had adverse vaccine reactions in your dogs. > > Our beloved German Shepherd, Mishka, may possibly have a sarcoma. He > has a > lump on his shoulder that has recently become a lot larger. It looks > pretty > nasty, and we had him booked in to see our homoeopathic vet next > Tuesday. > However my husband sent the vet some photographs of the tumour and she > has > replied that we should take him to a vet that has surgical facilities > and > get the lump excised and biopsied. She is seriously concerned that it > may > be a vaccine-induced sarcoma. > > We are so angry about this. He is 2½ years old and we only had him > vaccinated so that we could bring him with us to Australia. We could > have > left him in the UK, but he would have pined for the family and anyone > that > rehomed him would probably have vaccinated him anyway. We gave > homoeoprophylaxis at the time he was vaxed to counter any vaccinosis, > but it > appears that despite that, he may still be paying the price for our > sins. > My husband is beating himself up over it - he says if he hadn't > accepted his > job here, then Mishka would never have been vaccinated, but it's > history, > it's done, now we just have to try and put it right. > > He's going to the allopathic vet's tomorrow morning for an assessment, > and > our homoeopathic vet has asked that we obtain some of the biopsy tissue > preserved in alcohol so that she can potentise it. That, to me, seems > like > the best possible treatment but it's going to test my faith in > homoeopathy > to the limit. There is still a chance that the tumour is innocuous, > but I'm > not holding my breath. > > Please think of us and if anyone has had a dog or other companion > animal > recover completely from this, I'd love to hear about it. > > Love, light and peace, > > Sue > > ********** " At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have the ability. " -Ron White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 p.s. sorry, don't want it to come across that I'm recommending surgery. Just telling you that I have related experience and how it ended up for us. If we'd known of any remedy (i.e., homeopathy or other) to get rid of the cancer, we would have done it rather than removed the leg, since she was already missing a body part (an eye that was swollen and had glaucoma when we found her), and we didn't want her to end up a one-eyed, three-legged cat... which she is now, but, like I said, she's awesome, doesn't realize she's " disabled. " Hope your situation has a better ending. -Angie On Wednesday, August 16, 2006, at 10:44 PM, Totten wrote: > Feline sarcoma. A homeless cat we adopted developed cancer on the > shoulder of her right front leg, vets acknowledged could have been due > to a vax in that leg. With her, the lump also grew suddenly, over a > period of about 1 week. We took her to a specialist who removed the > leg. She's doing great, though. Toughest cat in the house, chases all > the other cats on three legs. -Angie > > On Wednesday, August 16, 2006, at 06:10 AM, mum2mishka wrote: > > > Does anyone on this list have any experience with canine sarcomas? I > > know > > that many of you have had adverse vaccine reactions in your dogs. > > > > Our beloved German Shepherd, Mishka, may possibly have a sarcoma. He > > has a > > lump on his shoulder that has recently become a lot larger. It looks > > pretty > > nasty, and we had him booked in to see our homoeopathic vet next > > Tuesday. > > However my husband sent the vet some photographs of the tumour and > she > > has > > replied that we should take him to a vet that has surgical facilities > > and > > get the lump excised and biopsied. She is seriously concerned that it > > may > > be a vaccine-induced sarcoma. > > > > We are so angry about this. He is 2½ years old and we only had him > > vaccinated so that we could bring him with us to Australia. We could > > have > > left him in the UK, but he would have pined for the family and anyone > > that > > rehomed him would probably have vaccinated him anyway. We gave > > homoeoprophylaxis at the time he was vaxed to counter any vaccinosis, > > but it > > appears that despite that, he may still be paying the price for our > > sins. > > My husband is beating himself up over it - he says if he hadn't > > accepted his > > job here, then Mishka would never have been vaccinated, but it's > > history, > > it's done, now we just have to try and put it right. > > > > He's going to the allopathic vet's tomorrow morning for an > assessment, > > and > > our homoeopathic vet has asked that we obtain some of the biopsy > tissue > > preserved in alcohol so that she can potentise it. That, to me, seems > > like > > the best possible treatment but it's going to test my faith in > > homoeopathy > > to the limit. There is still a chance that the tumour is innocuous, > > but I'm > > not holding my breath. > > > > Please think of us and if anyone has had a dog or other companion > > animal > > recover completely from this, I'd love to hear about it. > > > > Love, light and peace, > > > > Sue > > > > > ********** > " At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have > the ability. " -Ron White > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 > > Sue, > > Get yourself on " jstsayno2vaccs " a List for dogs/cats. We have been > discussing this topic the last week. You'll need two references. You can use > me and if sagacious on this list ( she's on the , I'm still here, but things are such that I can get on and read in bits and pieces. And today is one of the bits and pieces. Jackie Noel www.sagaciousairedales.com www.sagaciousdogcountry.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Hello Everyone, (special hello to Jackie, and new JSN member Lynn!) I guess it's time I sat down and made my introduction to this forum. I joined recently and time just seems to get away from me. Anyway, my name is Dianne and I am in Western PA, USA. I have no fur-less children but I am mom to ten four-footed-wonders (seven Collies; one Border Collie mix; and three domestic short hair cats). All of my dogs and cats are no-vaccs/no-chems/no-meds and raw fed. The only exceptions to this are three of my adult dogs who were with me about four years ago when the " rabies police " busted me and I was forced to have them vaccinated or risk losing them. Oh, and I adopted one of my kitties from a shelter where she was shot up with the usual toxic cocktail (my other two cats were four week old orphaned feral kittens when I rescued them so they escaped those insults). I am the owner and co-founder of Jstsayno2vaccs which Wulff-Tilford and myself created over six years ago in memory of my Conor (lost to rabies vaccine induced seizure activity) and her Max (suffering from vaccine induced seizure activity). I have been " in " Collies since birth....this tends to happen when your mom is a Collie person, LOL!! In the past year and a half I have returned to showing my dogs after taking a break from the sport for a few years to get my life back in some semblance of order. In my professional life I am a dog groomer and co-owner of The Canine Connection Salon & Spa. Great to be here!!!! In Light, Dianne Sever jodevincollies02@... Owner/Co-Founder " Just Say No To Vaccines " : Jstsayno2vaccs @ .com Ravette-Jodevin Collies... " A tradition with a family plan " : 724-538-3463 " I've seen a look in dogs' eyes...a quickly vanishing look of amazed contempt, and I am convinced that dogs think humans are nuts. " - Steinbeck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 OOps!!! it seems I can't count this a.m., LOL!!! My four-footed-wonders should have been listed as: six Collies; one BCX; and three cats. My apologies.........I've only had one cup of tea so far this morning! In Light, Dianne Sever jodevincollies02@... Owner/Co-Founder " Just Say No To Vaccines " : Jstsayno2vaccs @ .com Ravette-Jodevin Collies... " A tradition with a family plan " : 724-538-3463 " I've seen a look in dogs' eyes...a quickly vanishing look of amazed contempt, and I am convinced that dogs think humans are nuts. " - Steinbeck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Jackie, I was wondering where you were! It's been a couple of years, no? Re: Possible canine sarcoma - x-post > >> >> Sue, >> >> Get yourself on " jstsayno2vaccs " a List for dogs/cats. We > have been >> discussing this topic the last week. You'll need two references. You > can use >> me and if sagacious on this list ( she's on the > > , > > I'm still here, but things are such that I can get on and read in bits > and pieces. And today is one of the bits and pieces. > > Jackie Noel > www.sagaciousairedales.com > www.sagaciousdogcountry.com > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Not to butt in here...but thank you for letting us know about this group. I own a dog rescue (www.secludedhearts.org) and just joined. I first suspected that the vaccines were the cause of my (now deceased) Lhasa's seizures. He started having them a few days after he was vaccinated, but as the year wore on (and the vaccines wore off...), they became less frequent. That was when I started doing research on the vaccines. Then I realized if the vaccines were causing problems in my dogs, they must not be good for my children either. I used to get my children vaccinated (before I knew the bad about vaccines), and I had thought they were all done. Then school sent the letter this year that my children had to receive two new vaccines. I freaked and that is what brought me to this group. Anyway, didn't mean to write a book (hehe), but I appreciate you giving us the name of the " jstsayno2vaccines " list. I also own six rescue groups and think I will pass the link onto my members. Lynn >> >>> >>> Sue, >>> >>> Get yourself on " jstsayno2vaccs " a List for dogs/cats. We >> have been >>> discussing this topic the last week. You'll need two references. You >> can use >>> me and if sagacious on this list ( she's on the >> >> , >> >> I'm still here, but things are such that I can get on and read in bits >> and pieces. And today is one of the bits and pieces. >> >> Jackie Noel >> www.sagaciousairedales.com >> www.sagaciousdogcountry.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Well, Hullo Diane! Nice to see you here. I am glad you have joined this list. What has particularly convinced me about the whole vaccine issue is hearing from animal breeders on your list. Due to the shorter life spans of dogs and cats, one can readily see through generations of them what adverse events vaccines can produce and how nice and healthy are the ones who do NOT receive the vaccines! Oh how I wish I had known about your list BEFORE my dogs were vaxed. My older Jackie is still not right after the last rabies shot...:-(((((( Anyway, it's good to have you here because I think a cross-pollination between here and your list may produce some good discussions! Cheers, Re: Re: Possible canine sarcoma - x-post > Hello Everyone, > > (special hello to Jackie, and new JSN member Lynn!) > > I guess it's time I sat down and made my introduction to this forum. I > joined recently and time just seems to get away from me. > > Anyway, my name is Dianne and I am in Western PA, USA. I have no fur-less > children but I am mom to ten four-footed-wonders (seven Collies; one > Border > Collie mix; and three domestic short hair cats). All of my dogs and cats > are > no-vaccs/no-chems/no-meds and raw fed. The only exceptions to this are > three of > my adult dogs who were with me about four years ago when the " rabies > police " > busted me and I was forced to have them vaccinated or risk losing them. > Oh, and > I adopted one of my kitties from a shelter where she was shot up with the > usual toxic cocktail (my other two cats were four week old orphaned feral > kittens > when I rescued them so they escaped those insults). I am the owner and > co-founder of Jstsayno2vaccs which Wulff-Tilford and myself created > over six > years ago in memory of my Conor (lost to rabies vaccine induced seizure > activity) and her Max (suffering from vaccine induced seizure activity). > > I have been " in " Collies since birth....this tends to happen when your mom > is > a Collie person, LOL!! In the past year and a half I have returned to > showing my dogs after taking a break from the sport for a few years to get > my life > back in some semblance of order. In my professional life I am a dog > groomer > and co-owner of The Canine Connection Salon & Spa. > > Great to be here!!!! > > In Light, > Dianne Sever > jodevincollies02@... > > Owner/Co-Founder " Just Say No To Vaccines " : Jstsayno2vaccs @ > .com > Ravette-Jodevin Collies... " A tradition with a family plan " : 724-538-3463 > > " I've seen a look in dogs' eyes...a quickly vanishing look of amazed > contempt, and I am convinced that dogs think humans are nuts. " - > Steinbeck > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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