Re: Kids say the darndest things

[Guest guest]

Elvira,

Amen to that too. You know it's kind of funny. We don't have alot of money

any more, and so for entertainment we go for rides, look at houses we wish

we could afford, eat an ice cream, critique the landscape, colors they have

chosen and so forth. (didn't use to be as much fun as it now-hehe)

A couple of weeks ago we were in a subdivision where there were some nice

houses and some not so nice. We came up to one very not so nice home,and my

9 year old said to her brother, " Hey Serg (6), what do you think that house

has? " He looked at her and together they said " Stachy. " My parents were

with us. We started laughing so hard I thought I was going to have an

accident. My ice cream went flying on my dad truck seats. So every bad

house they would see, they would make a mold diagnosis. It is funny how

they notice bad roofs, missing siding, wet areas in the yards, and just a

look of yuck. Funny how these things effect kids too. Kids say the

darndest things.

[] Home buyers must check for mold

>

>

> > Home buyers must check for mold

> >

> > Inspecting a house before purchasing helps avoid an increasingly

> > common

> >

> > nightmare.

> >

> > http://www.detnews.com/2005/realestate/0505/03/E06-164492.htm

> >

> > By M. Grieco

> >

> > Comment on this story

> > Send this story to a friend

> > Get Home Delivery

> >

> >

> > Shortly after moving into your dream home, you discover a serious

> > water

> >

> > leakage problem and visible mold, conditions that were not disclosed

> > prior

> >

> > to the sale and that an inspection didn't reveal.

> >

> > A mold-testing company determines the house is heavily contaminated

> > with

> >

> > allergic molds and it will cost more than $60,000 to fix the water

> > problem

> >

> > and remediate the mold. It is recommended your family, which is

> > having

> >

> > allergic reactions, move out until the problem is resolved. Your

> > real estate

> >

> > agent and the seller are unwilling to help. What do you do?

> >

> > This scenario is becoming more common across the country. Many

> >

> > homebuyers, who believed they took all the right precautionary

> > steps, are

> >

> > still shocked when mold is discovered in their dream home and they

> > have

> >

> > little legal recourse.

> >

> > In Michigan, the law of " caveat emptor " applies to a used home

> > purchased

> >

> > " as is, " meaning the seller is not liable for any harm due to

> > defects at the

> >

> > time of the sale, unless the seller made fraudulent

> > misrepresentations before

> >

> > the contract was signed. Even so, fraud claims are not covered by

> > the

> >

> > seller's homeowners insurance, so purchasers may be limited in how

> > much

> >

> > money they can actually collect to compensate for out-of-pocket

> >

> > expenses.

> >

> > Home inspectors may or may not be liable for failure to point out

> > the

> >

> > potential for a mold problem because they are limited in what they

> > can

> >

> > inspect. They cannot do any destructive testing, such as lifting

> > carpeting or

> >

> > removing paneling, and they typically do not move furniture or other

> > items

> >

> > that can conceal hidden conditions such as water damage or mold.

> > Home

> >

> > inspection contracts typically limit the inspector's liability to

> > the price of

> >

> > the home inspection.

> >

> > To avoid this nightmare, the following steps are recommended:

> >

> > . Negotiate a longer inspection period in the purchase agreement to

> > have

> >

> > more than one inspection. The more inspections the better.

> >

> > . Ask about the inspector's experience investigating for moisture

> > and mold

> >

> > problems. Ask that a moisture meter be used to check for water

> > behind

> >

> > walls in basements, bathrooms or wherever there is evidence of a

> > leak.

> >

> > . Consider testing by a certified mold inspector if there is even a

> > hint of a

> >

> > prior moisture problem. This could be money well spent if it saves

> > you

> >

> > from buying a nightmare.

> >

> > . Do not rely upon the seller's disclosure statement. Ask the seller

> > specific

> >

> > questions in the presence of your real estate agent about water

> > intrusion,

> >

> > moisture and mold.

> >

> > . Do not sign an arbitration clause in the purchase agreement, which

> > is

> >

> > never for the benefit of the purchaser. It costs more to file for

> > arbitration

> >

> > than it does to sue, and arbitration costs are usually not

> > recoverable. Once

> >

> > you sign the closing documents, disputes are limited to failure to

> > disclose

> >

> > existing conditions.

> >

> > . Take photographs of the house during the walk-through visit for

> >

> > comparison to any later evidence of water or mold contamination if

> > you

> >

> > need to prove fraud.

> >

> > . Ask neighbors what they know about the sellers, the neighborhood

> > and if

> >

> > they know of any water or other problems with the house. Neighbors

> > may

> >

> > have seen wet carpeting on the curb before trash day.

> >

> > M. Grieco is a lawyer and shareholder at Sommers Schwartz,

> > a

> >

> > Southfield law firm.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

my kids are noticing the mold spots too- they scan the ceiling tiles

when we go to stores, etc and start complaining-

I say good for them- maybe they won't have to deal with what I have as

far as symptoms when they get bigger-

[Guest guest]

Same here. My kids want to go up to peoples houses and warn them. They

don't quit get the fact that we can't do that. It would be nice though to

be able to walk up to someones door, tell them that they might have a IAQ

problem, and they should have it checked out. Have them thank us, get it

checked, then fix it, and they wouldn't go thru all this stuff everyone else

has to. OOPS!!! think my dreams are setting in again. But, that sure would

be nice.

[] Re: Kids say the darndest things

> my kids are noticing the mold spots too- they scan the ceiling tiles

> when we go to stores, etc and start complaining-

>

> I say good for them- maybe they won't have to deal with what I have as

> far as symptoms when they get bigger-

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

WOW,

This is what I love to hear and something we must all focus on the Kids for the

do say the darndest things and one thing I was always Taught was always listen

to what a child has to say. We need to get as many children involved and it

looks like your are on top of things Great this means they will talk to their

friends I think we should get ourselves a group of kids in a Van and hit all the

nearest beaches every one with a T-shirt. KC we need a design with the face of a

Child School and Mold T-shirts I think You started something great in your

message.

Let'sssssssss Get Busy just think about the greatest Gift god has ever given

us........................ Children I love them so much and they are the reasons

we must change our ways and fight for the Children with all our might.

Lovely Just Lovely

So every bad

house they would see, they would make a mold diagnosis. It is funny how

they notice bad roofs, missing siding, wet areas in the yards, and just a

look of yuck. Funny how these things effect kids too. Kids say the

darndest things.

AMEN

WETHEPEOPLE

Elvira

[] Home buyers must check for mold

>

>

> > Home buyers must check for mold

> >

> > Inspecting a house before purchasing helps avoid an increasingly

> > common

> >

> > nightmare.

> >

> > http://www.detnews.com/2005/realestate/0505/03/E06-164492.htm

> >

> > By M. Grieco

> >

> > Comment on this story

> > Send this story to a friend

> > Get Home Delivery

> >

> >

> > Shortly after moving into your dream home, you discover a serious

> > water

> >

> > leakage problem and visible mold, conditions that were not disclosed

> > prior

> >

> > to the sale and that an inspection didn't reveal.

> >

> > A mold-testing company determines the house is heavily contaminated

> > with

> >

> > allergic molds and it will cost more than $60,000 to fix the water

> > problem

> >

> > and remediate the mold. It is recommended your family, which is

> > having

> >

> > allergic reactions, move out until the problem is resolved. Your

> > real estate

> >

> > agent and the seller are unwilling to help. What do you do?

> >

> > This scenario is becoming more common across the country. Many

> >

> > homebuyers, who believed they took all the right precautionary

> > steps, are

> >

> > still shocked when mold is discovered in their dream home and they

> > have

> >

> > little legal recourse.

> >

> > In Michigan, the law of " caveat emptor " applies to a used home

> > purchased

> >

> > " as is, " meaning the seller is not liable for any harm due to

> > defects at the

> >

> > time of the sale, unless the seller made fraudulent

> > misrepresentations before

> >

> > the contract was signed. Even so, fraud claims are not covered by

> > the

> >

> > seller's homeowners insurance, so purchasers may be limited in how

> > much

> >

> > money they can actually collect to compensate for out-of-pocket

> >

> > expenses.

> >

> > Home inspectors may or may not be liable for failure to point out

> > the

> >

> > potential for a mold problem because they are limited in what they

> > can

> >

> > inspect. They cannot do any destructive testing, such as lifting

> > carpeting or

> >

> > removing paneling, and they typically do not move furniture or other

> > items

> >

> > that can conceal hidden conditions such as water damage or mold.

> > Home

> >

> > inspection contracts typically limit the inspector's liability to

> > the price of

> >

> > the home inspection.

> >

> > To avoid this nightmare, the following steps are recommended:

> >

> > . Negotiate a longer inspection period in the purchase agreement to

> > have

> >

> > more than one inspection. The more inspections the better.

> >

> > . Ask about the inspector's experience investigating for moisture

> > and mold

> >

> > problems. Ask that a moisture meter be used to check for water

> > behind

> >

> > walls in basements, bathrooms or wherever there is evidence of a

> > leak.

> >

> > . Consider testing by a certified mold inspector if there is even a

> > hint of a

> >

> > prior moisture problem. This could be money well spent if it saves

> > you

> >

> > from buying a nightmare.

> >

> > . Do not rely upon the seller's disclosure statement. Ask the seller

> > specific

> >

> > questions in the presence of your real estate agent about water

> > intrusion,

> >

> > moisture and mold.

> >

> > . Do not sign an arbitration clause in the purchase agreement, which

> > is

> >

> > never for the benefit of the purchaser. It costs more to file for

> > arbitration

> >

> > than it does to sue, and arbitration costs are usually not

> > recoverable. Once

> >

> > you sign the closing documents, disputes are limited to failure to

> > disclose

> >

> > existing conditions.

> >

> > . Take photographs of the house during the walk-through visit for

> >

> > comparison to any later evidence of water or mold contamination if

> > you

> >

> > need to prove fraud.

> >

> > . Ask neighbors what they know about the sellers, the neighborhood

> > and if

> >

> > they know of any water or other problems with the house. Neighbors

> > may

> >

> > have seen wet carpeting on the curb before trash day.

> >

> > M. Grieco is a lawyer and shareholder at Sommers Schwartz,

> > a

> >

> > Southfield law firm.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Put On a T-Shirt and Stand outside their Home across the street talk to

neighbors put information on your car and Drive by until you know that they are

some one else has seen it.

What say You about this it's what I do the stickers stay on my car 24 HR and

when I go out I have the larger one I place on the side of the car.

Think that may work

E

[] Re: Kids say the darndest things

> my kids are noticing the mold spots too- they scan the ceiling tiles

> when we go to stores, etc and start complaining-

>

> I say good for them- maybe they won't have to deal with what I have as

> far as symptoms when they get bigger-

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Believe me, my daughter does talk about it. During this whole school thing

she spoke up. The school tried to bring stuff from the contaminated room

into the new room, she freaked out, wouldn't touch it, got histaricle, had

an asthma attack, cried, and so forth. The principal called me and asked

not to talk about this room with her. I said " I have not mentioned a word,

she has lived this for 4 years, she knows more than most of the doctors we

have seen. You don't think she knows what a flooded room can mean for her

or others, or what it means when the county sign off on a contaminated room

means? I am proud of her for knowing, and if she want to talk about it she

has freedom of speech as far as I am concerned! " He didn't say a word.

Never mentioned it again. So kids know more they are given credit for.

[] Home buyers must check for mold

> >

> >

> > > Home buyers must check for mold

> > >

> > > Inspecting a house before purchasing helps avoid an increasingly

> > > common

> > >

> > > nightmare.

> > >

> > > http://www.detnews.com/2005/realestate/0505/03/E06-164492.htm

> > >

> > > By M. Grieco

> > >

> > > Comment on this story

> > > Send this story to a friend

> > > Get Home Delivery

> > >

> > >

> > > Shortly after moving into your dream home, you discover a serious

> > > water

> > >

> > > leakage problem and visible mold, conditions that were not disclosed

> > > prior

> > >

> > > to the sale and that an inspection didn't reveal.

> > >

> > > A mold-testing company determines the house is heavily contaminated

> > > with

> > >

> > > allergic molds and it will cost more than $60,000 to fix the water

> > > problem

> > >

> > > and remediate the mold. It is recommended your family, which is

> > > having

> > >

> > > allergic reactions, move out until the problem is resolved. Your

> > > real estate

> > >

> > > agent and the seller are unwilling to help. What do you do?

> > >

> > > This scenario is becoming more common across the country. Many

> > >

> > > homebuyers, who believed they took all the right precautionary

> > > steps, are

> > >

> > > still shocked when mold is discovered in their dream home and they

> > > have

> > >

> > > little legal recourse.

> > >

> > > In Michigan, the law of " caveat emptor " applies to a used home

> > > purchased

> > >

> > > " as is, " meaning the seller is not liable for any harm due to

> > > defects at the

> > >

> > > time of the sale, unless the seller made fraudulent

> > > misrepresentations before

> > >

> > > the contract was signed. Even so, fraud claims are not covered by

> > > the

> > >

> > > seller's homeowners insurance, so purchasers may be limited in how

> > > much

> > >

> > > money they can actually collect to compensate for out-of-pocket

> > >

> > > expenses.

> > >

> > > Home inspectors may or may not be liable for failure to point out

> > > the

> > >

> > > potential for a mold problem because they are limited in what they

> > > can

> > >

> > > inspect. They cannot do any destructive testing, such as lifting

> > > carpeting or

> > >

> > > removing paneling, and they typically do not move furniture or other

> > > items

> > >

> > > that can conceal hidden conditions such as water damage or mold.

> > > Home

> > >

> > > inspection contracts typically limit the inspector's liability to

> > > the price of

> > >

> > > the home inspection.

> > >

> > > To avoid this nightmare, the following steps are recommended:

> > >

> > > . Negotiate a longer inspection period in the purchase agreement to

> > > have

> > >

> > > more than one inspection. The more inspections the better.

> > >

> > > . Ask about the inspector's experience investigating for moisture

> > > and mold

> > >

> > > problems. Ask that a moisture meter be used to check for water

> > > behind

> > >

> > > walls in basements, bathrooms or wherever there is evidence of a

> > > leak.

> > >

> > > . Consider testing by a certified mold inspector if there is even a

> > > hint of a

> > >

> > > prior moisture problem. This could be money well spent if it saves

> > > you

> > >

> > > from buying a nightmare.

> > >

> > > . Do not rely upon the seller's disclosure statement. Ask the seller

> > > specific

> > >

> > > questions in the presence of your real estate agent about water

> > > intrusion,

> > >

> > > moisture and mold.

> > >

> > > . Do not sign an arbitration clause in the purchase agreement, which

> > > is

> > >

> > > never for the benefit of the purchaser. It costs more to file for

> > > arbitration

> > >

> > > than it does to sue, and arbitration costs are usually not

> > > recoverable. Once

> > >

> > > you sign the closing documents, disputes are limited to failure to

> > > disclose

> > >

> > > existing conditions.

> > >

> > > . Take photographs of the house during the walk-through visit for

> > >

> > > comparison to any later evidence of water or mold contamination if

> > > you

> > >

> > > need to prove fraud.

> > >

> > > . Ask neighbors what they know about the sellers, the neighborhood

> > > and if

> > >

> > > they know of any water or other problems with the house. Neighbors

> > > may

> > >

> > > have seen wet carpeting on the curb before trash day.

> > >

> > > M. Grieco is a lawyer and shareholder at Sommers Schwartz,

> > > a

> > >

> > > Southfield law firm.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

,

Right On. If only more kids had her spirit. Give her a hug for me and think God

for her. What a blessing, now we must get to many more children. My grandson

told me he's living in it, his skin WOW it makes me sick to look at it, but he's

also learning. Just wish I could see them more often. My case has been much of a

night mare,also three of my other grandkids have asthma. They also live around a

Toxic Site, Wingate & baby Wingate. When the tall is short then what does the

short man do? When the tall just feed on them meaning the very people we have to

trust.

Forgive them for they know not what they do!?.

I am proud of her for knowing, and if she want to talk about it she

has freedom of speech as far as I am concerned! " He didn't say a word.

Never mentioned it again. So kids know more they are given credit for.

to me she needs a lot more than Credit, she is a jewel in my eyes, she

should become a Poet on the matter.

Peace

Elvira

[] Home buyers must check for mold

> >

> >

> > > Home buyers must check for mold

> > >

> > > Inspecting a house before purchasing helps avoid an increasingly

> > > common

> > >

> > > nightmare.

> > >

> > > http://www.detnews.com/2005/realestate/0505/03/E06-164492.htm

> > >

> > > By M. Grieco

> > >

> > > Comment on this story

> > > Send this story to a friend

> > > Get Home Delivery

> > >

> > >

> > > Shortly after moving into your dream home, you discover a serious

> > > water

> > >

> > > leakage problem and visible mold, conditions that were not disclosed

> > > prior

> > >

> > > to the sale and that an inspection didn't reveal.

> > >

> > > A mold-testing company determines the house is heavily contaminated

> > > with

> > >

> > > allergic molds and it will cost more than $60,000 to fix the water

> > > problem

> > >

> > > and remediate the mold. It is recommended your family, which is

> > > having

> > >

> > > allergic reactions, move out until the problem is resolved. Your

> > > real estate

> > >

> > > agent and the seller are unwilling to help. What do you do?

> > >

> > > This scenario is becoming more common across the country. Many

> > >

> > > homebuyers, who believed they took all the right precautionary

> > > steps, are

> > >

> > > still shocked when mold is discovered in their dream home and they

> > > have

> > >

> > > little legal recourse.

> > >

> > > In Michigan, the law of " caveat emptor " applies to a used home

> > > purchased

> > >

> > > " as is, " meaning the seller is not liable for any harm due to

> > > defects at the

> > >

> > > time of the sale, unless the seller made fraudulent

> > > misrepresentations before

> > >

> > > the contract was signed. Even so, fraud claims are not covered by

> > > the

> > >

> > > seller's homeowners insurance, so purchasers may be limited in how

> > > much

> > >

> > > money they can actually collect to compensate for out-of-pocket

> > >

> > > expenses.

> > >

> > > Home inspectors may or may not be liable for failure to point out

> > > the

> > >

> > > potential for a mold problem because they are limited in what they

> > > can

> > >

> > > inspect. They cannot do any destructive testing, such as lifting

> > > carpeting or

> > >

> > > removing paneling, and they typically do not move furniture or other

> > > items

> > >

> > > that can conceal hidden conditions such as water damage or mold.

> > > Home

> > >

> > > inspection contracts typically limit the inspector's liability to

> > > the price of

> > >

> > > the home inspection.

> > >

> > > To avoid this nightmare, the following steps are recommended:

> > >

> > > . Negotiate a longer inspection period in the purchase agreement to

> > > have

> > >

> > > more than one inspection. The more inspections the better.

> > >

> > > . Ask about the inspector's experience investigating for moisture

> > > and mold

> > >

> > > problems. Ask that a moisture meter be used to check for water

> > > behind

> > >

> > > walls in basements, bathrooms or wherever there is evidence of a

> > > leak.

> > >

> > > . Consider testing by a certified mold inspector if there is even a

> > > hint of a

> > >

> > > prior moisture problem. This could be money well spent if it saves

> > > you

> > >

> > > from buying a nightmare.

> > >

> > > . Do not rely upon the seller's disclosure statement. Ask the seller

> > > specific

> > >

> > > questions in the presence of your real estate agent about water

> > > intrusion,

> > >

> > > moisture and mold.

> > >

> > > . Do not sign an arbitration clause in the purchase agreement, which

> > > is

> > >

> > > never for the benefit of the purchaser. It costs more to file for

> > > arbitration

> > >

> > > than it does to sue, and arbitration costs are usually not

> > > recoverable. Once

> > >

> > > you sign the closing documents, disputes are limited to failure to

> > > disclose

> > >

> > > existing conditions.

> > >

> > > . Take photographs of the house during the walk-through visit for

> > >

> > > comparison to any later evidence of water or mold contamination if

> > > you

> > >

> > > need to prove fraud.

> > >

> > > . Ask neighbors what they know about the sellers, the neighborhood

> > > and if

> > >

> > > they know of any water or other problems with the house. Neighbors

> > > may

> > >

> > > have seen wet carpeting on the curb before trash day.

> > >

> > > M. Grieco is a lawyer and shareholder at Sommers Schwartz,

> > > a

> > >

> > > Southfield law firm.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > FAIR USE NOTICE:

> > >

> > >

> > >