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KL & Group,

The research is NOT there for or against, in my opinion. From the

research that I have read, I am not willing to take the chance of

harming myself or anyone else by using an ozone air purifier that

could cause permanent lung damage or irritate the respiratory track.

There are professionals on this board that I hope will chime in AGAIN,

responding to the ozone issue. KL, I would recommend you take some of

these exact questions of yours and experience with the ozone machine

to the professional board, IEQ. Just to see what their response would

be. I will be watching for your post and their responses.I will post

the link below. I really wish it were that simple that one machine is

a cure all. I also have been made aware that ozone may even stimulate

mold growth and or cause it to release its mycotoxins.

Also Ken, you are doing your best to promote the use of ozone and how

good and safe it is to members on this board. Why won't you post some

of this exact information on the professional board? Until more

research is there (and not just done by the company promoting it)

either fore or against, I am not willing to promote any product that

does not have a proven track record. I could not live with myself if I

caused someone further damage to their health. Could you? I don't mean

to make it sound like I am attacking you personally Ken, it's the

product I have a problem with and would have with anyone promoting it.

I have been dealing with the mold issue for many, many years and this

is not the first time that the subject and/or use of ozone has come

up. So I am still looking for that silver bullet also. And yes, I have

been in an office that used an ozone machine and it did irritate my

wife (who is the one that is ill) and myself and we couldn't wait to

get out of there. The doctor didn't realize and apologized later and

tossed it into the garbage once he read the information about it use.

I will post some links below and also some previous discussions.

Anyone using an ozone generator should be very cautious.

KC

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From: " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...>

Date: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:29 pm

Subject: Re: []^ Ozone educational web sites

Ken,

This is my last comment on this ozone discussion: Ozone is not

enriched oxygen. Ozone is a pollutant. The two have different

properties.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

From: RLLIPSEY87@...

Date: Wed May 28, 2003 8:53 am

Subject: Re: [] Digest Number 1636

Ozone is a toxic chemical whether it is produced naturally in a

thunderstorm or

produced by ozonators or " air purifiers " (or sold by any other name) .

Ozone is an OSHA regulated toxic chemical which is 500 times more

toxic than carbon monoxide (CO) that kills hundreds of people each

year. The federal air standard for ozone is only 0.1 ppm while it is

50 ppm for CO. Ozone attacks mucous membranes, ie the lungs, and

causes chronic respiratory disease.

NIOSH has published that ozone is not very effective in killing

mold or bacteria. Ozone is not " controversial " . It is toxic and

dangerous and not effective in controlling mold or bacteria and should

never be used in a room with people present, even to remove odors ie

smoke damage odors.

Dr. L. Lipsey

Professor and Toxicologist

University of North Florida,

---OSHA HazMat Cert.

U. of Florida Med. Ctr, Jax

Poison Control Center Board

CV--Toxicology And Environmental Health Assoc

From: Joe Klein <epistrophy1@...>

Date: Sun Jun 1, 2003 4:45 pm

Subject: Re: [] criticism of recent comments on ozone

I am concerned that that some of our visitors may be mislead or

misinformed concerning ozone.

Fact: Ozone can have damaging health effects, especially for persons

with asthma and other lung diseases, children and the elderly.

Fact: Ozone generators are NOT recommended by the American Lung

Association:

Fact: Much of the material regarding ozone generators makes claims or

draws conclusions without substantiation and sound science.

Fact: EPA does not certify air cleaning devices.

Fact: " Relatively low amounts(of ozone)can cause chest pain, coughing,

shortness of breath, and, throat irritation. Ozone may also worsen

chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma and compromise the ability

of the body to fight respiratory infections. "

Fact: " People vary widely in their susceptibility to ozone. Healthy

people, as well as those with respiratory difficulty, can experience

breathing problems when exposed to ozone. Exercise during exposure to

ozone causes a greater amount of ozone to be inhaled, and increases

the risk of harmful respiratory effects. Recovery from the harmful

effects can occur following short-term exposure to low levels of

ozone, but health effects may become more damaging and recovery less

certain at higher levels or from longer exposures (US EPA, 1996a,

1996b). "

Fact: Exposure to ozone can cause:

1. Decreases in lung function

2. Aggravation of asthma

3. Throat irritation and cough

4. Chest pain and shortness of breath

5. Inflammation of lung tissue

6. Higher susceptibility to respiratory infection

Fact: Ozone is not the same as oxygen and it is not a benign,

harmless, molecule that is safe to breathe in. Ozone is a molecule

composed of an extra atom of oxygen, in addition to the two atoms

which form the basic oxygen molecule that is safe to breathe in.

However, the third oxygen atom can easily detach from the ozone

molecule, and combine with molecules of other substances, thereby

altering their chemical composition. This is how ozone can destroy

lung tissue. The free radical of ozone, combines with vital lung

tissue essentially forming a new substance and thereby destroying the

lung tissue.

Fact: Ozone's damaging effects do not stop once the ozone producing

machine is shut off due to the production of harmful or irritating by

products such as aldehydes and formic acid.

" For many of the chemicals with which ozone does readily react, the

reaction can form a variety of harmful or irritating by-products

(Weschler et al., 1992a, 1992b, 1996; Zhang and Lioy, 1994). For

example, in a laboratory experiment that mixed ozone with chemicals

from new carpet, ozone reduced many of these chemicals, including

those which can produce new carpet odor. However, in the process, the

reaction produced a variety of aldehydes, and the total concentration

of organic chemicals in the air increased rather than decreased after

the introduction of ozone (Weschler, et. al., 1992b). In addition to

aldehydes, ozone may also increase indoor concentrations of formic

acid (Zhang and Lioy, 1994), both of which can irritate the lungs if

produced in sufficient amounts. Some of the potential by-products

produced by ozone's reactions with other chemicals are themselves very

reactive and capable of producing irritating and corrosive by-products

(Weschler and Shields, 1996, 1997a, 1997b). Given the complexity of

the chemical reactions that occur, additional research is needed to

more completely understand the complex interactions of indoor

chemicals in the presence of ozone. "

Fact: Ozone generators do not remove particulate matter from air

which is causes allergy. Furthermore, even if ozone is used in

combination with an " ionizer " it is still not as effective, as a high

efficiency particle filter. This is supported by information at the

EPA web site.

" Ozone does not remove particles (e.g., dust and pollen) from the air,

including the particles that cause most allergies. However, some ozone

generators are manufactured with an " ion generator " or " ionizer " in

the same unit. An ionizer is a device that disperses negatively

(and/or positively) charged ions into the air. These ions attach to

particles in the air giving them a negative (or positive) charge so

that the particles may attach to nearby surfaces such as walls or

furniture, or attach to one another and settle out of the air. In

recent experiments, ionizers were found to be less effective in

removing particles of dust, tobacco smoke, pollen or fungal spores

than either high efficiency particle filters or electrostatic

precipitators. (Shaughnessy et al., 1994; Pierce, et al., 1996).

However, it is apparent from other experiments that the effectiveness

of particle air cleaners, including electrostatic precipitators, ion

generators, or pleated filters varies widely (U.S. EPA, 1995). "

Fact: " If used at concentrations that do not exceed public health

standards, ozone applied to indoor air does not effectively remove

viruses, bacteria, mold, or other biological pollutants "

Fact: " Whether in its pure form or mixed with other chemicals, ozone

can be harmful to health. "

Fact: The above statements are supported by both The American Lung

Association and The EPA.

Please don't confuse fact with personal testimonials and personal

opinions.

The following has been excerpted from the EPA's web site.

http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html

" Ozone Generators that are Sold as Air Cleaners: An Assessment of

Effectiveness and Health Consequences "

There is a large body of written material on ozone and the use of

ozone indoors. However, much of this material makes claims or draws

conclusions without substantiation and sound science. In developing

Ozone Generators that are Sold as Air Cleaners, the EPA reviewed a

wide assortment of this literature, including information provided by

a leading manufacturer of ozone generating devices. In keeping with

EPA's policy of insuring that the information it provides is based on

sound science, only peer reviewed, scientifically supported findings

and conclusions were relied upon in developing this document.

Please Note: EPA does not certify air cleaning devices. The Agency

does not recommend air cleaning devices or manufacturers. If you need

information on specific devices or manufacturers, one resource you can

consult is the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers (AHAM)

1111 19th Street, NW, Suite 402, Washington, DC 20036 (202) 872-

5955. AHAM also provides information on air cleaners on their AHAM-

certified Clean Air Delivery Rate site at www.cadr.org Also, the

American Lung Association has an Air Cleaning Device fact sheet at:

www.lungusa.org/air/air00_aircleaners.html There are other resources

provided in this fact sheet.

Contents

What is ozone?

How is ozone harmful?

- Ozone Heath Effects and Standards

Is there such a thing as " good ozone, " and " bad ozone " ?

Are ozone generators effective in controlling indoor air pollution?

If I follow manufacturers' directions, can I be harmed?

Why is it difficult to control ozone exposure with an ozone generator?

Can ozone be used in unoccupied spaces?

What other methods can be used to control indoor air pollution?

Conclusions

Recommendation

Additional Resources

- Publications

- Information Sources

Bibliography

Introduction and Purpose

Ozone generators that are sold as air cleaners intentionally produce

the gas ozone. Often the vendors of ozone generators make statements

and distribute material that lead the public to believe that these

devices are always safe and effective in controlling indoor air

pollution. For almost a century, health professionals have refuted

these claims (Sawyer, et. al 1913; Salls, 1927; Boeniger, 1995;

American Lung Association, 1997; Al-Ahmady, 1997). The purpose of this

document is to provide accurate information regarding the use of ozone-

generating devices in indoor occupied spaces. This information is

based on the most credible scientific evidence currently available.

Some vendors suggest that these devices have been approved by the

federal government for use in occupied spaces. To the contrary, NO

agency of the federal government has approved these devices for use in

occupied spaces. Because of these claims, and because ozone can cause

health problems at high concentrations, several federal government

agencies have worked in consultation with the U.S. Environmental

Protection Agency to produce this public information document.

What is Ozone?

Ozone is a molecule composed of three atoms of oxygen. Two atoms of

oxygen form the basic oxygen molecule--the oxygen we breathe that is

essential to life. The third oxygen atom can detach from the ozone

molecule, and re-attach to molecules of other substances, thereby

altering their chemical composition. It is this ability to react with

other substances that forms the basis of manufacturers' claims.

How is Ozone Harmful?

The same chemical properties that allow high concentrations of ozone

to react with organic material outside the body give it the ability to

react with similar organic material that makes up the body, and

potentially cause harmful health consequences. When inhaled, ozone can

damage the lungs. Relatively low amounts can cause chest pain,

coughing, shortness of breath, and, throat irritation. Ozone may also

worsen chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma and compromise the

ability of the body to fight respiratory infections. People vary

widely in their susceptibility to ozone. Healthy people, as well as

those with respiratory difficulty, can experience breathing problems

when exposed to ozone. Exercise during exposure to ozone causes a

greater amount of ozone to be inhaled, and increases the risk of

harmful respiratory effects. Recovery from the harmful effects can

occur following short-term exposure to low levels of ozone, but health

effects may become more damaging and recovery less certain at higher

levels or from longer exposures (US EPA, 1996a, 1996b).

Manufacturers and vendors of ozone devices often use misleading terms

to describe ozone. Terms such as " energized oxygen " or " pure air "

suggest that ozone is a healthy kind of oxygen. Ozone is a toxic gas

with vastly different chemical and toxicological properties from

oxygen. Several federal agencies have established health standards or

recommendations to limit human exposure to ozone. These exposure

limits are summarized in Table 1.

Table 1. Ozone Heath Effects and Standards

Health Effects Risk Factors Health Standards*

Potential risk of experiencing:

Decreases in lung function

Aggravation of asthma

Throat irritation and cough

Chest pain and shortness of breath

Inflammation of lung tissue

Higher susceptibility to respiratory infection Factors expected to

increase risk and severity of health effects are:

Increase in ozone air concentration

Greater duration of exposure for some health effects

Activities that raise the breathing rate (e.g., exercise)

Certain pre-existing lung diseases (e.g., asthma)

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires ozone output of

indoor medical devices to be no more than 0.05 ppm.

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) requires that

workers not be exposed to an average concentration of more than 0.10

ppm for 8 hours.

The National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH)

recommends an upper limit of 0.10 ppm, not to be exceeded at any time.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)'s National Ambient Air

Quality Standard for ozone is a maximum 8 hour average outdoor

concentration of 0.08 ppm.

(* ppm = parts per million)

Is There Such a Thing as " Good Ozone " and " Bad Ozone " ?

The phrase " good up high - bad nearby " has been used by the U.S.

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to make the distinction between

ozone in the upper and lower atmosphere. Ozone in the upper atmosphere-

-referred to as " stratospheric ozone " --helps filter out damaging

ultraviolet radiation from the sun. Though ozone in the stratosphere

is protective, ozone in the atmosphere - which is the air we breathe -

can be harmful to the respiratory system. Harmful levels of ozone can

be produced by the interaction of sunlight with certain chemicals

emitted to the environment (e.g., automobile emissions and chemical

emissions of industrial plants). These harmful concentrations of ozone

in the atmosphere are often accompanied by high concentrations of

other pollutants, including nitrogen dioxide, fine particles, and

hydrocarbons. Whether pure or mixed with other chemicals, ozone can be

harmful to health.

Are Ozone Generators Effective in Controlling Indoor Air Pollution?

Available scientific evidence shows that at concentrations that do not

exceed public health standards, ozone has little potential to remove

indoor air contaminants.

Some manufacturers or vendors suggest that ozone will render almost

every chemical contaminant harmless by producing a chemical reaction

whose only by-products are carbon dioxide, oxygen and water. This is

misleading.

First, a review of scientific research shows that, for many of the

chemicals commonly found in indoor environments, the reaction process

with ozone may take months or years (Boeniger, 1995). For all

practical purposes, ozone does not react at all with such chemicals.

And contrary to specific claims by some vendors, ozone generators are

not effective in removing carbon monoxide (Salls, 1927; Shaughnessy et

al., 1994) or formaldehyde (Esswein and Boeniger, 1994).

Second, for many of the chemicals with which ozone does readily react,

the reaction can form a variety of harmful or irritating by-products

(Weschler et al., 1992a, 1992b, 1996; Zhang and Lioy, 1994). For

example, in a laboratory experiment that mixed ozone with chemicals

from new carpet, ozone reduced many of these chemicals, including

those which can produce new carpet odor. However, in the process, the

reaction produced a variety of aldehydes, and the total concentration

of organic chemicals in the air increased rather than decreased after

the introduction of ozone (Weschler, et. al., 1992b). In addition to

aldehydes, ozone may also increase indoor concentrations of formic

acid (Zhang and Lioy, 1994), both of which can irritate the lungs if

produced in sufficient amounts. Some of the potential by-products

produced by ozone's reactions with other chemicals are themselves very

reactive and capable of producing irritating and corrosive by-products

(Weschler and Shields, 1996, 1997a, 1997b). Given the complexity of

the chemical reactions that occur, additional research is needed to

more completely understand the complex interactions of indoor

chemicals in the presence of ozone.

Third, ozone does not remove particles (e.g., dust and pollen) from

the air, including the particles that cause most allergies. However,

some ozone generators are manufactured with an " ion generator "

or " ionizer " in the same unit. An ionizer is a device that disperses

negatively (and/or positively) charged ions into the air. These ions

attach to particles in the air giving them a negative (or positive)

charge so that the particles may attach to nearby surfaces such as

walls or furniture, or attach to one another and settle out of the

air. In recent experiments, ionizers were found to be less effective

in removing particles of dust, tobacco smoke, pollen or fungal spores

than either high efficiency particle filters or electrostatic

precipitators. (Shaughnessy et al., 1994; Pierce, et al., 1996).

However, it is apparent from other experiments that the effectiveness

of particle air cleaners, including electrostatic precipitators, ion

generators, or pleated filters varies widely (U.S. EPA, 1995).

There is evidence to show that at concentrations that do not exceed

public health standards, ozone is not effective at removing many odor-

causing chemicals.

In an experiment designed to produce formaldehyde concentrations

representative of an embalming studio, where formaldehyde is the main

odor producer, ozone showed no effect in reducing formaldehyde

concentration (Esswein and Boeniger, 1994). Other experiments suggest

that body odor may be masked by the smell of ozone but is not removed

by ozone (Witheridge and Yaglou, 1939). Ozone is not considered useful

for odor removal in building ventilation systems (ASHRAE, 1989).

While there are few scientific studies to support the claim that ozone

effectively removes odors, it is plausible that some odorous chemicals

will react with ozone. For example, in some experiments, ozone

appeared to react readily with certain chemicals, including some

chemicals that contribute to the smell of new carpet (Weschler, 1992b;

Zhang and Lioy, 1994). Ozone is also believed to react with acrolein,

one of the many odorous and irritating chemicals found in secondhand

tobacco smoke (US EPA, 1995).

If used at concentrations that do not exceed public health standards,

ozone applied to indoor air does not effectively remove viruses,

bacteria, mold, or other biological pollutants.

Some data suggest that low levels of ozone may reduce airborne

concentrations and inhibit the growth of some biological organisms

while ozone is present, but ozone concentrations would have to be 5 -

10 times higher than public health standards allow before the ozone

could decontaminate the air sufficiently to prevent survival and

regeneration of the organisms once the ozone is removed (Dyas, et

al.,1983; Foarde et al., 1997).

Even at high concentrations, ozone may have no effect on biological

contaminants embedded in porous material such as duct lining or

ceiling tiles (Foarde et al, 1997). In other words, ozone produced by

ozone generators may inhibit the growth of some biological agents

while it is present, but it is unlikely to fully decontaminate the air

unless concentrations are high enough to be a health concern if people

are present. Even with high levels of ozone, contaminants embedded in

porous material may not be affected at all.

If I Follow Manufacturers' Directions, Can I be Harmed?

Results of some controlled studies show that concentrations of ozone

considerably higher than these standards are possible even when a user

follows the manufacturer's operating instructions.

There are many brands and models of ozone generators on the market.

They vary in the amount of ozone they can produce. In many

circumstances, the use of an ozone generator may not result in ozone

concentrations that exceed public health standards. But many factors

affect the indoor concentration of ozone so that under some conditions

ozone concentrations may exceed public health standards.

In one study (Shaughnessy and Oatman, 1991), a large ozone generator

recommended by the manufacturer for spaces " up to 3,000 square feet, "

was placed in a 350 square foot room and run at a high setting. The

ozone in the room quickly reached concentrations that were

exceptionally high--0.50 to 0.80 ppm which is 5-10 times higher than

public health limits (see Table 1).

In an EPA study, several different devices were placed in a home

environment, in various rooms, with doors alternately opened and

closed, and with the central ventilation system fan alternately turned

on and off. The results showed that some ozone generators, when run at

a high setting with interior doors closed, would frequently produce

concentrations of 0.20 - 0.30 ppm. A powerful unit set on high with

the interior doors opened achieved values of 0.12 to 0.20 ppm in

adjacent rooms. When units were not run on high, and interior doors

were open, concentrations generally did not exceed public health

standards (US EPA, 1995).

The concentrations reported above were adjusted to exclude that

portion of the ozone concentration brought in from the outdoors.

Indoor concentrations of ozone brought in from outside are typically

0.01- 0.02 ppm, but could be as high as 0.03 - 0.05 ppm (, 1991;

U.S. EPA, 1996b; Weschler et al., 1989, 1996; Zhang and Lioy; 1994).

If the outdoor portion of ozone were included in the indoor

concentrations reported above, the concentrations inside would have

been correspondingly higher, increasing the risk of excessive ozone

exposure.

None of the studies reported above involved the simultaneous use of

more than one device. The simultaneous use of multiple devices

increases the total ozone output and therefore greatly increases the

risk of excessive ozone exposure.

Why is it Difficult to Control Ozone Exposure with an Ozone Generator?

The actual concentration of ozone produced by an ozone generator

depends on many factors. Concentrations will be higher if a more

powerful device or more than one device is used, if a device is placed

in a small space rather than a large space, if interior doors are

closed rather than open and, if the room has fewer rather than more

materials and furnishings that adsorb or react with ozone and,

provided that outdoor concentrations of ozone are low, if there is

less rather than more outdoor air ventilation.

The proximity of a person to the ozone generating device can also

affect one's exposure. The concentration is highest at the point where

the ozone exits from the device, and generally decreases as one moves

further away.

Manufacturers and vendors advise users to size the device properly to

the space or spaces in which it is used. Unfortunately, some

manufacturers' recommendations about appropriate sizes for particular

spaces have not been sufficiently precise to guarantee that ozone

concentrations will not exceed public health limits. Further, some

literature distributed by vendors suggests that users err on the side

of operating a more powerful machine than would normally be

appropriate for the intended space, the rationale being that the user

may move in the future, or may want to use the machine in a larger

space later on. Using a more powerful machine increases the risk of

excessive ozone exposure.

Ozone generators typically provide a control setting by which the

ozone output can be adjusted. The ozone output of these devices is

usually not proportional to the control setting. That is, a setting at

medium does not necessarily generate an ozone level that is halfway

between the levels at low and high. The relationship between the

control setting and the output varies considerably among devices,

although most appear to elevate the ozone output much more than one

would expect as the control setting is increased from low to high. In

experiments to date, the high setting in some devices generated 10

times the level obtained at the medium setting (US EPA, 1995).

Manufacturer's instructions on some devices link the control setting

to room size and thus indicate what setting is appropriate for

different room sizes. However, room size is only one factor affecting

ozone levels in the room.

In addition to adjusting the control setting to the size of the room,

users have sometimes been advised to lower the ozone setting if they

can smell the ozone. Unfortunately, the ability to detect ozone by

smell varies considerably from person to person, and one's ability to

smell ozone rapidly deteriorates in the presence of ozone. While the

smell of ozone may indicate that the concentration is too high, lack

of odor does not guarantee that levels are safe.

At least one manufacturer is offering units with an ozone sensor that

turns the ozone generator on and off with the intent of maintaining

ozone concentrations in the space below health standards. EPA is

currently evaluating the effectiveness and reliability of these

sensors, and plans to conduct further research to improve society's

understanding of ozone chemistry indoors. EPA will report its findings

as the results of this research become available.

Can Ozone be Used in Unoccupied Spaces?

Ozone has been extensively used for water purification, but ozone

chemistry in water is not the same as ozone chemistry in air. High

concentrations of ozone in air, when people are not present, are

sometimes used to help decontaminate an unoccupied space from certain

chemical or biological contaminants or odors (e.g., fire restoration).

However, little is known about the chemical by-products left behind by

these processes (Dunston and Spivak, 1997). While high concentrations

of ozone in air may sometimes be appropriate in these circumstances,

conditions should be sufficiently controlled to insure that no person

or pet becomes exposed. Ozone can adversely affect indoor plants, and

damage materials such as rubber, electrical wire coatings, and fabrics

and art work containing susceptible dyes and pigments (U.S. EPA,

1996a).

What Other Methods Can Be Used to Control Indoor Air Pollution?

The three most common approaches to reducing indoor air pollution, in

order of effectiveness, are:

Source Control: Eliminate or control the sources of pollution;

Ventilation: Dilute and exhaust pollutants through outdoor air

ventilation, and

Air Cleaning: Remove pollutants through proven air cleaning methods.

Of the three, the first approach -- source control -- is the most

effective. This involves minimizing the use of products and materials

that cause indoor pollution, employing good hygiene practices to

minimize biological contaminants (including the control of humidity

and moisture, and occasional cleaning and disinfection of wet or moist

surfaces), and using good housekeeping practices to control particles.

The second approach -- outdoor air ventilation -- is also effective

and commonly employed. Ventilation methods include installing an

exhaust fan close to the source of contaminants, increasing outdoor

air flows in mechanical ventilation systems, and opening windows,

especially when pollutant sources are in use.

The third approach -- air cleaning -- is not generally regarded as

sufficient in itself, but is sometimes used to supplement source

control and ventilation. Air filters, electronic particle air cleaners

and ionizers are often used to remove airborne particles, and gas

adsorbing material is sometimes used to remove gaseous contaminants

when source control and ventilation are inadequate.

See Additional Resources section below for more detailed information

about these methods.

Conclusions

Whether in its pure form or mixed with other chemicals, ozone can be

harmful to health.

When inhaled, ozone can damage the lungs. Relatively low amounts of

ozone can cause chest pain, coughing, shortness of breath and, throat

irritation. It may also worsen chronic respiratory diseases such as

asthma as well as compromise the ability of the body to fight

respiratory infections.

Some studies show that ozone concentrations produced by ozone

generators can exceed health standards even when one follows

manufacturer's instructions.

Many factors affect ozone concentrations including the amount of ozone

produced by the machine(s), the size of the indoor space, the amount

of material in the room with which ozone reacts, the outdoor ozone

concentration, and the amount of ventilation. These factors make it

difficult to control the ozone concentration in all circumstances.

Available scientific evidence shows that, at concentrations that do

not exceed public health standards, ozone is generally ineffective in

controlling indoor air pollution.

The concentration of ozone would have to greatly exceed health

standards to be effective in removing most indoor air contaminants. In

the process of reacting with chemicals indoors, ozone can produce

other chemicals that themselves can be irritating and corrosive.

Recommendation

The public is advised to use proven methods of controlling indoor air

pollution. These methods include eliminating or controlling pollutant

sources, increasing outdoor air ventilation, and using proven methods

of air cleaning.

Additional Resources

Publications:

Copies of EPA's publications are available from the National Service

Center for Environmental Publications (NSCEP)

http://www.epa.gov/ncepihom/ (to order EPA documents online). Use the

EPA Document Number when ordering. Or call 1-800-490-9198/(513) 489-

8695 (fax), or write to:

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

National Center for Environmental Publications (NSCEP)

P.O. Box 42419

Cincinnati, OH 45242

The Inside Story: A Guide to Indoor Air Quality, EPA Document Number

EPA 402-K-93-007. U.S. EPA, U.S. CPSC. April 1995.

Indoor Air Facts No. 7.- Residential Air Cleaners, EPA Document Number

EPA 20A-4-001. U.S. EPA. February 1990.

Residential Air Cleaning Devices: A Summary of Available Information,

EPA Document Number EPA 402-K-96-001. U.S. EPA.

Indoor Air Pollution: An Introduction for Health Professionals, EPA

Document Number EPA 402-R-94-007. American Lung Association, EPA,

CPSC, American Medical Association.

Advisory:

" Health Canada Advises the Public About Air Cleaners Designed to

Intentionally Generate Ozone (Ozone Generators) " , Health Canada,

Canada 1999-19, February 5, 1999.

Information Sources:

U.S. EPA's Indoor Air Quality Information Clearinghouse (IAQ INFO), PO

Box 37133, Washington D.C. 20013-7133; by phone (800) 438-4318.

California Department of Health Services, Indoor Air Quality Section,

Environmental Health Laboratory, 2151 Berkeley Way, Berkeley, CA

94704; 510-540-3022.

Federal Trade Commission , Consumer Response Center, (202) 326-3128.

U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, Washington D.C. 20207; or

call Consumer Hotline, English/Spanish: (800) 638-2772, Hearing/Speech

Impaired: (800) 6388270.

The Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers (AHAM) has developed

an American National Standards Institute (ANSI)-approved standard for

portable air cleaners (ANSI/AHAM Standard AC-1-1988). This standard

may be useful in estimating the effectiveness of portable air

cleaners. Under this standard, room air cleaner effectiveness is rated

by a clean air delivery rate (CADR) for each of three particle types

in indoor air: tobacco smoke, dust, and pollen.

Only a limited number of air cleaners have been certified under this

program at the present time. A complete listing of all current AHAM-

certified room air cleaners and their CADRs can be obtained from CADR

Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers (AHAM)

1111 19th Street, NW, Suite 402

Washington, DC 20036

(202) 872-5955

AHAM also provides information on air cleaners on their AHAM-certified

Clean Air Delivery Rate site at www.cadr.org

American Lung Association Fact Sheet - Air Cleaining Devices: Types

of Air Cleaning Processes

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The following excerpt is from the American Lung Association:

http://www.lungusa.org/press/envir/asnairc.html

http://www.lungusa.org/bin/search/searchit.pl?

query=Air+Cleaners & ichoice=index.swish-

e & ixname=.swish & results=0 & search.x=9 & search.y=9

OZONE PRODUCTION

Some air cleaners (called ozone generators) use an electrical charge

to generate ozone. Although ozone (also referred to as trivalent

oxygen or saturated oxygen) is a necessary part of the upper

atmosphere (10-30 miles above us), in the part of the atmosphere we

breathe, ozone is a potent lung irritant. It can have damaging health

effects, especially for persons with asthma and other lung diseases,

children and the elderly. It is produced directly by ozone generators

and indirectly by ion generators and some other electronic air

cleaners. The FDA has set a limit of 0.05 parts per million of ozone

in indoor air. Ask whether any electronic air cleaner you are

considering buying has been tested for ozone production. The American

Lung Association suggests that ozone generators not be used.

ph P. Klein, Sr, M.D.

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KC

If an Ozone air cleaner is anything like an Ionic air

cleaner, I don't want anything to do with it. Last

year, after I had an Ionic air cleaner in my apt. for

one hour - only one hour, I had such a difficult time

breathing, that I was afraid I would end up having to

go to the Emergency Room.

Barb E.

--- tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2C@...> wrote:

> KL & Group,

>

> The research is NOT there for or against, in my

> opinion. From the

> research that I have read, I am not willing to take

> the chance of

> harming myself or anyone else by using an ozone air

> purifier that

> could cause permanent lung damage or irritate the

> respiratory track.

>

> There are professionals on this board that I hope

> will chime in AGAIN,

> responding to the ozone issue. KL, I would recommend

> you take some of

> these exact questions of yours and experience with

> the ozone machine

> to the professional board, IEQ. Just to see what

> their response would

> be. I will be watching for your post and their

> responses.I will post

> the link below. I really wish it were that simple

> that one machine is

> a cure all. I also have been made aware that ozone

> may even stimulate

> mold growth and or cause it to release its

> mycotoxins.

>

> Also Ken, you are doing your best to promote the use

> of ozone and how

> good and safe it is to members on this board. Why

> won't you post some

> of this exact information on the professional board?

> Until more

> research is there (and not just done by the company

> promoting it)

> either fore or against, I am not willing to promote

> any product that

> does not have a proven track record. I could not

> live with myself if I

> caused someone further damage to their health. Could

> you? I don't mean

> to make it sound like I am attacking you personally

> Ken, it's the

> product I have a problem with and would have with

> anyone promoting it.

> I have been dealing with the mold issue for many,

> many years and this

> is not the first time that the subject and/or use of

> ozone has come

> up. So I am still looking for that silver bullet

> also. And yes, I have

> been in an office that used an ozone machine and it

> did irritate my

> wife (who is the one that is ill) and myself and we

> couldn't wait to

> get out of there. The doctor didn't realize and

> apologized later and

> tossed it into the garbage once he read the

> information about it use.

>

> I will post some links below and also some previous

> discussions.

> Anyone using an ozone generator should be very

> cautious.

>

> KC

>

> The IEQ discussion group has been established to

> provide a forum for

> IEQ professionals to openly discuss issues. These

> issues include

> indoor environmental health, IAQ consulting,

> toxicology, HVAC

> engineering, industrial hygiene, risk management,

> restoration and

> remediation, insurance coverage, legal issues,

> medical issues and

> more.

> iequality/

>

> From: " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...>

> Date: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:29 pm

> Subject: Re: []^ Ozone educational web

> sites

>

> Ken,

>

> This is my last comment on this ozone discussion:

> Ozone is not

> enriched oxygen. Ozone is a pollutant. The two have

> different

> properties.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

> From: RLLIPSEY87@...

> Date: Wed May 28, 2003 8:53 am

> Subject: Re: [] Digest Number 1636

>

>

>

> Ozone is a toxic chemical whether it is produced

> naturally in a

> thunderstorm or

> produced by ozonators or " air purifiers " (or sold by

> any other name) .

>

> Ozone is an OSHA regulated toxic chemical which

> is 500 times more

> toxic than carbon monoxide (CO) that kills hundreds

> of people each

> year. The federal air standard for ozone is only 0.1

> ppm while it is

> 50 ppm for CO. Ozone attacks mucous membranes, ie

> the lungs, and

> causes chronic respiratory disease.

>

> NIOSH has published that ozone is not very

> effective in killing

> mold or bacteria. Ozone is not " controversial " . It

> is toxic and

> dangerous and not effective in controlling mold or

> bacteria and should

> never be used in a room with people present, even to

> remove odors ie

> smoke damage odors.

>

>

> Dr. L. Lipsey

> Professor and Toxicologist

> University of North Florida,

> ---OSHA HazMat Cert.

> U. of Florida Med. Ctr, Jax

> Poison Control Center Board

> CV--Toxicology And Environmental Health Assoc

>

>

> From: Joe Klein <epistrophy1@...>

> Date: Sun Jun 1, 2003 4:45 pm

> Subject: Re: [] criticism of recent

> comments on ozone

>

>

>

> I am concerned that that some of our visitors may be

> mislead or

> misinformed concerning ozone.

>

> Fact: Ozone can have damaging health effects,

> especially for persons

> with asthma and other lung diseases, children and

> the elderly.

>

> Fact: Ozone generators are NOT recommended by the

> American Lung

> Association:

>

> Fact: Much of the material regarding ozone

> generators makes claims or

> draws conclusions without substantiation and sound

> science.

>

> Fact: EPA does not certify air cleaning devices.

>

> Fact: " Relatively low amounts(of ozone)can cause

> chest pain, coughing,

> shortness of breath, and, throat irritation. Ozone

> may also worsen

> chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma and

> compromise the ability

> of the body to fight respiratory infections. "

>

> Fact: " People vary widely in their susceptibility

> to ozone. Healthy

> people, as well as those with respiratory

> difficulty, can experience

> breathing problems when exposed to ozone. Exercise

> during exposure to

> ozone causes a greater amount of ozone to be

> inhaled, and increases

> the risk of harmful respiratory effects. Recovery

> from the harmful

> effects can occur following short-term exposure to

> low levels of

> ozone, but health effects may become more damaging

> and recovery less

> certain at higher levels or from longer exposures

> (US EPA, 1996a,

> 1996b). "

>

> Fact: Exposure to ozone can cause:

>

> 1. Decreases in lung function

> 2. Aggravation of asthma

> 3. Throat irritation and cough

> 4. Chest pain and shortness of breath

> 5. Inflammation of lung tissue

> 6. Higher susceptibility to respiratory infection

>

>

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Barbara,

I'm not sure if the Ionic air cleaner is the same thing as an

ionizer, which I'm sure it probably is, then according to many

experts (not me) this also emits small amounts of ozone. I used to

have several in my house (even before my wife got sick)and now that

I am aware of what they can produce, they are no longer in my house.

I thought to myself, like everyone else before running into this

mold issue of course, why would the government allow anything on the

market that would harm you. Boy was I

nieve/dumb/stupid/ignorant/gullible, etc., etc., etc. lol How things

change.

KC

>

> > KL & Group,

> >

> > The research is NOT there for or against, in my

> > opinion. From the

> > research that I have read, I am not willing to take

> > the chance of

> > harming myself or anyone else by using an ozone air

> > purifier that

> > could cause permanent lung damage or irritate the

> > respiratory track.

> >

> > There are professionals on this board that I hope

> > will chime in AGAIN,

> > responding to the ozone issue. KL, I would recommend

> > you take some of

> > these exact questions of yours and experience with

> > the ozone machine

> > to the professional board, IEQ. Just to see what

> > their response would

> > be. I will be watching for your post and their

> > responses.I will post

> > the link below. I really wish it were that simple

> > that one machine is

> > a cure all. I also have been made aware that ozone

> > may even stimulate

> > mold growth and or cause it to release its

> > mycotoxins.

> >

> > Also Ken, you are doing your best to promote the use

> > of ozone and how

> > good and safe it is to members on this board. Why

> > won't you post some

> > of this exact information on the professional board?

> > Until more

> > research is there (and not just done by the company

> > promoting it)

> > either fore or against, I am not willing to promote

> > any product that

> > does not have a proven track record. I could not

> > live with myself if I

> > caused someone further damage to their health. Could

> > you? I don't mean

> > to make it sound like I am attacking you personally

> > Ken, it's the

> > product I have a problem with and would have with

> > anyone promoting it.

> > I have been dealing with the mold issue for many,

> > many years and this

> > is not the first time that the subject and/or use of

> > ozone has come

> > up. So I am still looking for that silver bullet

> > also. And yes, I have

> > been in an office that used an ozone machine and it

> > did irritate my

> > wife (who is the one that is ill) and myself and we

> > couldn't wait to

> > get out of there. The doctor didn't realize and

> > apologized later and

> > tossed it into the garbage once he read the

> > information about it use.

> >

> > I will post some links below and also some previous

> > discussions.

> > Anyone using an ozone generator should be very

> > cautious.

> >

> > KC

> >

> > The IEQ discussion group has been established to

> > provide a forum for

> > IEQ professionals to openly discuss issues. These

> > issues include

> > indoor environmental health, IAQ consulting,

> > toxicology, HVAC

> > engineering, industrial hygiene, risk management,

> > restoration and

> > remediation, insurance coverage, legal issues,

> > medical issues and

> > more.

> > iequality/

> >

> > From: " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@h...>

> > Date: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:29 pm

> > Subject: Re: []^ Ozone educational web

> > sites

> >

> > Ken,

> >

> > This is my last comment on this ozone discussion:

> > Ozone is not

> > enriched oxygen. Ozone is a pollutant. The two have

> > different

> > properties.

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

> > From: RLLIPSEY87@A...

> > Date: Wed May 28, 2003 8:53 am

> > Subject: Re: [] Digest Number 1636

> >

> >

> >

> > Ozone is a toxic chemical whether it is produced

> > naturally in a

> > thunderstorm or

> > produced by ozonators or " air purifiers " (or sold by

> > any other name) .

> >

> > Ozone is an OSHA regulated toxic chemical which

> > is 500 times more

> > toxic than carbon monoxide (CO) that kills hundreds

> > of people each

> > year. The federal air standard for ozone is only 0.1

> > ppm while it is

> > 50 ppm for CO. Ozone attacks mucous membranes, ie

> > the lungs, and

> > causes chronic respiratory disease.

> >

> > NIOSH has published that ozone is not very

> > effective in killing

> > mold or bacteria. Ozone is not " controversial " . It

> > is toxic and

> > dangerous and not effective in controlling mold or

> > bacteria and should

> > never be used in a room with people present, even to

> > remove odors ie

> > smoke damage odors.

> >

> >

> > Dr. L. Lipsey

> > Professor and Toxicologist

> > University of North Florida,

> > ---OSHA HazMat Cert.

> > U. of Florida Med. Ctr, Jax

> > Poison Control Center Board

> > CV--Toxicology And Environmental Health Assoc

> >

> >

> > From: Joe Klein <epistrophy1@y...>

> > Date: Sun Jun 1, 2003 4:45 pm

> > Subject: Re: [] criticism of recent

> > comments on ozone

> >

> >

> >

> > I am concerned that that some of our visitors may be

> > mislead or

> > misinformed concerning ozone.

> >

> > Fact: Ozone can have damaging health effects,

> > especially for persons

> > with asthma and other lung diseases, children and

> > the elderly.

> >

> > Fact: Ozone generators are NOT recommended by the

> > American Lung

> > Association:

> >

> > Fact: Much of the material regarding ozone

> > generators makes claims or

> > draws conclusions without substantiation and sound

> > science.

> >

> > Fact: EPA does not certify air cleaning devices.

> >

> > Fact: " Relatively low amounts(of ozone)can cause

> > chest pain, coughing,

> > shortness of breath, and, throat irritation. Ozone

> > may also worsen

> > chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma and

> > compromise the ability

> > of the body to fight respiratory infections. "

> >

> > Fact: " People vary widely in their susceptibility

> > to ozone. Healthy

> > people, as well as those with respiratory

> > difficulty, can experience

> > breathing problems when exposed to ozone. Exercise

> > during exposure to

> > ozone causes a greater amount of ozone to be

> > inhaled, and increases

> > the risk of harmful respiratory effects. Recovery

> > from the harmful

> > effects can occur following short-term exposure to

> > low levels of

> > ozone, but health effects may become more damaging

> > and recovery less

> > certain at higher levels or from longer exposures

> > (US EPA, 1996a,

> > 1996b). "

> >

> > Fact: Exposure to ozone can cause:

> >

> > 1. Decreases in lung function

> > 2. Aggravation of asthma

> > 3. Throat irritation and cough

> > 4. Chest pain and shortness of breath

> > 5. Inflammation of lung tissue

> > 6. Higher susceptibility to respiratory infection

> >

> >

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>

>

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Join iequality . It's a professional group of IAQ

experts....and the endorsers of 03 would not like the answers to the

safety/efficacy of 03 from these members.

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, tigerpaw2c wrote:

> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:58:38 -0000

> From: tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2C@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: [] Ozone- Here we go again.

>

> KL & Group,

>

> The research is NOT there for or against, in my opinion. From the

> research that I have read, I am not willing to take the chance of

> harming myself or anyone else by using an ozone air purifier that

> could cause permanent lung damage or irritate the respiratory track.

>

> There are professionals on this board that I hope will chime in AGAIN,

> responding to the ozone issue. KL, I would recommend you take some of

> these exact questions of yours and experience with the ozone machine

> to the professional board, IEQ. Just to see what their response would

> be. I will be watching for your post and their responses.I will post

> the link below. I really wish it were that simple that one machine is

> a cure all. I also have been made aware that ozone may even stimulate

> mold growth and or cause it to release its mycotoxins.

>

> Also Ken, you are doing your best to promote the use of ozone and how

> good and safe it is to members on this board. Why won't you post some

> of this exact information on the professional board? Until more

> research is there (and not just done by the company promoting it)

> either fore or against, I am not willing to promote any product that

> does not have a proven track record. I could not live with myself if I

> caused someone further damage to their health. Could you? I don't mean

> to make it sound like I am attacking you personally Ken, it's the

> product I have a problem with and would have with anyone promoting it.

> I have been dealing with the mold issue for many, many years and this

> is not the first time that the subject and/or use of ozone has come

> up. So I am still looking for that silver bullet also. And yes, I have

> been in an office that used an ozone machine and it did irritate my

> wife (who is the one that is ill) and myself and we couldn't wait to

> get out of there. The doctor didn't realize and apologized later and

> tossed it into the garbage once he read the information about it use.

>

> I will post some links below and also some previous discussions.

> Anyone using an ozone generator should be very cautious.

>

> KC

>

> The IEQ discussion group has been established to provide a forum for

> IEQ professionals to openly discuss issues. These issues include

> indoor environmental health, IAQ consulting, toxicology, HVAC

> engineering, industrial hygiene, risk management, restoration and

> remediation, insurance coverage, legal issues, medical issues and

> more.

> iequality/

>

> From: " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...>

> Date: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:29 pm

> Subject: Re: []^ Ozone educational web sites

>

> Ken,

>

> This is my last comment on this ozone discussion: Ozone is not

> enriched oxygen. Ozone is a pollutant. The two have different

> properties.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

> From: RLLIPSEY87@...

> Date: Wed May 28, 2003 8:53 am

> Subject: Re: [] Digest Number 1636

>

>

>

> Ozone is a toxic chemical whether it is produced naturally in a

> thunderstorm or

> produced by ozonators or " air purifiers " (or sold by any other name) .

>

> Ozone is an OSHA regulated toxic chemical which is 500 times more

> toxic than carbon monoxide (CO) that kills hundreds of people each

> year. The federal air standard for ozone is only 0.1 ppm while it is

> 50 ppm for CO. Ozone attacks mucous membranes, ie the lungs, and

> causes chronic respiratory disease.

>

> NIOSH has published that ozone is not very effective in killing

> mold or bacteria. Ozone is not " controversial " . It is toxic and

> dangerous and not effective in controlling mold or bacteria and should

> never be used in a room with people present, even to remove odors ie

> smoke damage odors.

>

>

> Dr. L. Lipsey

> Professor and Toxicologist

> University of North Florida,

> ---OSHA HazMat Cert.

> U. of Florida Med. Ctr, Jax

> Poison Control Center Board

> CV--Toxicology And Environmental Health Assoc

>

>

> From: Joe Klein <epistrophy1@...>

> Date: Sun Jun 1, 2003 4:45 pm

> Subject: Re: [] criticism of recent comments on ozone

>

>

>

> I am concerned that that some of our visitors may be mislead or

> misinformed concerning ozone.

>

> Fact: Ozone can have damaging health effects, especially for persons

> with asthma and other lung diseases, children and the elderly.

>

> Fact: Ozone generators are NOT recommended by the American Lung

> Association:

>

> Fact: Much of the material regarding ozone generators makes claims or

> draws conclusions without substantiation and sound science.

>

> Fact: EPA does not certify air cleaning devices.

>

> Fact: " Relatively low amounts(of ozone)can cause chest pain, coughing,

> shortness of breath, and, throat irritation. Ozone may also worsen

> chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma and compromise the ability

> of the body to fight respiratory infections. "

>

> Fact: " People vary widely in their susceptibility to ozone. Healthy

> people, as well as those with respiratory difficulty, can experience

> breathing problems when exposed to ozone. Exercise during exposure to

> ozone causes a greater amount of ozone to be inhaled, and increases

> the risk of harmful respiratory effects. Recovery from the harmful

> effects can occur following short-term exposure to low levels of

> ozone, but health effects may become more damaging and recovery less

> certain at higher levels or from longer exposures (US EPA, 1996a,

> 1996b). "

>

> Fact: Exposure to ozone can cause:

>

> 1. Decreases in lung function

> 2. Aggravation of asthma

> 3. Throat irritation and cough

> 4. Chest pain and shortness of breath

> 5. Inflammation of lung tissue

> 6. Higher susceptibility to respiratory infection

>

> Fact: Ozone is not the same as oxygen and it is not a benign,

> harmless, molecule that is safe to breathe in. Ozone is a molecule

> composed of an extra atom of oxygen, in addition to the two atoms

> which form the basic oxygen molecule that is safe to breathe in.

> However, the third oxygen atom can easily detach from the ozone

> molecule, and combine with molecules of other substances, thereby

> altering their chemical composition. This is how ozone can destroy

> lung tissue. The free radical of ozone, combines with vital lung

> tissue essentially forming a new substance and thereby destroying the

> lung tissue.

>

> Fact: Ozone's damaging effects do not stop once the ozone producing

> machine is shut off due to the production of harmful or irritating by

> products such as aldehydes and formic acid.

>

> " For many of the chemicals with which ozone does readily react, the

> reaction can form a variety of harmful or irritating by-products

> (Weschler et al., 1992a, 1992b, 1996; Zhang and Lioy, 1994). For

> example, in a laboratory experiment that mixed ozone with chemicals

> from new carpet, ozone reduced many of these chemicals, including

> those which can produce new carpet odor. However, in the process, the

> reaction produced a variety of aldehydes, and the total concentration

> of organic chemicals in the air increased rather than decreased after

> the introduction of ozone (Weschler, et. al., 1992b). In addition to

> aldehydes, ozone may also increase indoor concentrations of formic

> acid (Zhang and Lioy, 1994), both of which can irritate the lungs if

> produced in sufficient amounts. Some of the potential by-products

> produced by ozone's reactions with other chemicals are themselves very

> reactive and capable of producing irritating and corrosive by-products

> (Weschler and Shields, 1996, 1997a, 1997b). Given the complexity of

> the chemical reactions that occur, additional research is needed to

> more completely understand the complex interactions of indoor

> chemicals in the presence of ozone. "

> Fact: Ozone generators do not remove particulate matter from air

> which is causes allergy. Furthermore, even if ozone is used in

> combination with an " ionizer " it is still not as effective, as a high

> efficiency particle filter. This is supported by information at the

> EPA web site.

> " Ozone does not remove particles (e.g., dust and pollen) from the air,

> including the particles that cause most allergies. However, some ozone

> generators are manufactured with an " ion generator " or " ionizer " in

> the same unit. An ionizer is a device that disperses negatively

> (and/or positively) charged ions into the air. These ions attach to

> particles in the air giving them a negative (or positive) charge so

> that the particles may attach to nearby surfaces such as walls or

> furniture, or attach to one another and settle out of the air. In

> recent experiments, ionizers were found to be less effective in

> removing particles of dust, tobacco smoke, pollen or fungal spores

> than either high efficiency particle filters or electrostatic

> precipitators. (Shaughnessy et al., 1994; Pierce, et al., 1996).

> However, it is apparent from other experiments that the effectiveness

> of particle air cleaners, including electrostatic precipitators, ion

> generators, or pleated filters varies widely (U.S. EPA, 1995). "

> Fact: " If used at concentrations that do not exceed public health

> standards, ozone applied to indoor air does not effectively remove

> viruses, bacteria, mold, or other biological pollutants "

> Fact: " Whether in its pure form or mixed with other chemicals, ozone

> can be harmful to health. "

> Fact: The above statements are supported by both The American Lung

> Association and The EPA.

> Please don't confuse fact with personal testimonials and personal

> opinions.

> The following has been excerpted from the EPA's web site.

> http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html

> " Ozone Generators that are Sold as Air Cleaners: An Assessment of

> Effectiveness and Health Consequences "

> There is a large body of written material on ozone and the use of

> ozone indoors. However, much of this material makes claims or draws

> conclusions without substantiation and sound science. In developing

> Ozone Generators that are Sold as Air Cleaners, the EPA reviewed a

> wide assortment of this literature, including information provided by

> a leading manufacturer of ozone generating devices. In keeping with

> EPA's policy of insuring that the information it provides is based on

> sound science, only peer reviewed, scientifically supported findings

> and conclusions were relied upon in developing this document.

> Please Note: EPA does not certify air cleaning devices. The Agency

> does not recommend air cleaning devices or manufacturers. If you need

> information on specific devices or manufacturers, one resource you can

> consult is the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers (AHAM)

> 1111 19th Street, NW, Suite 402, Washington, DC 20036 (202) 872-

> 5955. AHAM also provides information on air cleaners on their AHAM-

> certified Clean Air Delivery Rate site at www.cadr.org Also, the

> American Lung Association has an Air Cleaning Device fact sheet at:

> www.lungusa.org/air/air00_aircleaners.html There are other resources

> provided in this fact sheet.

>

>

> Contents

> What is ozone?

> How is ozone harmful?

> - Ozone Heath Effects and Standards

> Is there such a thing as " good ozone, " and " bad ozone " ?

> Are ozone generators effective in controlling indoor air pollution?

> If I follow manufacturers' directions, can I be harmed?

> Why is it difficult to control ozone exposure with an ozone generator?

> Can ozone be used in unoccupied spaces?

> What other methods can be used to control indoor air pollution?

> Conclusions

> Recommendation

> Additional Resources

> - Publications

> - Information Sources

> Bibliography

>

>

> Introduction and Purpose

> Ozone generators that are sold as air cleaners intentionally produce

> the gas ozone. Often the vendors of ozone generators make statements

> and distribute material that lead the public to believe that these

> devices are always safe and effective in controlling indoor air

> pollution. For almost a century, health professionals have refuted

> these claims (Sawyer, et. al 1913; Salls, 1927; Boeniger, 1995;

> American Lung Association, 1997; Al-Ahmady, 1997). The purpose of this

> document is to provide accurate information regarding the use of ozone-

> generating devices in indoor occupied spaces. This information is

> based on the most credible scientific evidence currently available.

>

> Some vendors suggest that these devices have been approved by the

> federal government for use in occupied spaces. To the contrary, NO

> agency of the federal government has approved these devices for use in

> occupied spaces. Because of these claims, and because ozone can cause

> health problems at high concentrations, several federal government

> agencies have worked in consultation with the U.S. Environmental

> Protection Agency to produce this public information document.

>

> What is Ozone?

> Ozone is a molecule composed of three atoms of oxygen. Two atoms of

> oxygen form the basic oxygen molecule--the oxygen we breathe that is

> essential to life. The third oxygen atom can detach from the ozone

> molecule, and re-attach to molecules of other substances, thereby

> altering their chemical composition. It is this ability to react with

> other substances that forms the basis of manufacturers' claims.

>

>

>

> How is Ozone Harmful?

> The same chemical properties that allow high concentrations of ozone

> to react with organic material outside the body give it the ability to

> react with similar organic material that makes up the body, and

> potentially cause harmful health consequences. When inhaled, ozone can

> damage the lungs. Relatively low amounts can cause chest pain,

> coughing, shortness of breath, and, throat irritation. Ozone may also

> worsen chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma and compromise the

> ability of the body to fight respiratory infections. People vary

> widely in their susceptibility to ozone. Healthy people, as well as

> those with respiratory difficulty, can experience breathing problems

> when exposed to ozone. Exercise during exposure to ozone causes a

> greater amount of ozone to be inhaled, and increases the risk of

> harmful respiratory effects. Recovery from the harmful effects can

> occur following short-term exposure to low levels of ozone, but health

> effects may become more damaging and recovery less certain at higher

> levels or from longer exposures (US EPA, 1996a, 1996b).

>

> Manufacturers and vendors of ozone devices often use misleading terms

> to describe ozone. Terms such as " energized oxygen " or " pure air "

> suggest that ozone is a healthy kind of oxygen. Ozone is a toxic gas

> with vastly different chemical and toxicological properties from

> oxygen. Several federal agencies have established health standards or

> recommendations to limit human exposure to ozone. These exposure

> limits are summarized in Table 1.

>

> Table 1. Ozone Heath Effects and Standards

> Health Effects Risk Factors Health Standards*

> Potential risk of experiencing:

>

> Decreases in lung function

>

> Aggravation of asthma

>

> Throat irritation and cough

>

> Chest pain and shortness of breath

>

> Inflammation of lung tissue

>

> Higher susceptibility to respiratory infection Factors expected to

> increase risk and severity of health effects are:

>

> Increase in ozone air concentration

>

> Greater duration of exposure for some health effects

>

> Activities that raise the breathing rate (e.g., exercise)

>

> Certain pre-existing lung diseases (e.g., asthma)

> The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires ozone output of

> indoor medical devices to be no more than 0.05 ppm.

>

> The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) requires that

> workers not be exposed to an average concentration of more than 0.10

> ppm for 8 hours.

>

> The National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH)

> recommends an upper limit of 0.10 ppm, not to be exceeded at any time.

>

> The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)'s National Ambient Air

> Quality Standard for ozone is a maximum 8 hour average outdoor

> concentration of 0.08 ppm.

>

>

> (* ppm = parts per million)

>

>

>

> Is There Such a Thing as " Good Ozone " and " Bad Ozone " ?

> The phrase " good up high - bad nearby " has been used by the U.S.

> Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to make the distinction between

> ozone in the upper and lower atmosphere. Ozone in the upper atmosphere-

> -referred to as " stratospheric ozone " --helps filter out damaging

> ultraviolet radiation from the sun. Though ozone in the stratosphere

> is protective, ozone in the atmosphere - which is the air we breathe -

> can be harmful to the respiratory system. Harmful levels of ozone can

> be produced by the interaction of sunlight with certain chemicals

> emitted to the environment (e.g., automobile emissions and chemical

> emissions of industrial plants). These harmful concentrations of ozone

> in the atmosphere are often accompanied by high concentrations of

> other pollutants, including nitrogen dioxide, fine particles, and

> hydrocarbons. Whether pure or mixed with other chemicals, ozone can be

> harmful to health.

>

>

>

> Are Ozone Generators Effective in Controlling Indoor Air Pollution?

> Available scientific evidence shows that at concentrations that do not

> exceed public health standards, ozone has little potential to remove

> indoor air contaminants.

>

> Some manufacturers or vendors suggest that ozone will render almost

> every chemical contaminant harmless by producing a chemical reaction

> whose only by-products are carbon dioxide, oxygen and water. This is

> misleading.

>

> First, a review of scientific research shows that, for many of the

> chemicals commonly found in indoor environments, the reaction process

> with ozone may take months or years (Boeniger, 1995). For all

> practical purposes, ozone does not react at all with such chemicals.

> And contrary to specific claims by some vendors, ozone generators are

> not effective in removing carbon monoxide (Salls, 1927; Shaughnessy et

> al., 1994) or formaldehyde (Esswein and Boeniger, 1994).

>

> Second, for many of the chemicals with which ozone does readily react,

> the reaction can form a variety of harmful or irritating by-products

> (Weschler et al., 1992a, 1992b, 1996; Zhang and Lioy, 1994). For

> example, in a laboratory experiment that mixed ozone with chemicals

> from new carpet, ozone reduced many of these chemicals, including

> those which can produce new carpet odor. However, in the process, the

> reaction produced a variety of aldehydes, and the total concentration

> of organic chemicals in the air increased rather than decreased after

> the introduction of ozone (Weschler, et. al., 1992b). In addition to

> aldehydes, ozone may also increase indoor concentrations of formic

> acid (Zhang and Lioy, 1994), both of which can irritate the lungs if

> produced in sufficient amounts. Some of the potential by-products

> produced by ozone's reactions with other chemicals are themselves very

> reactive and capable of producing irritating and corrosive by-products

> (Weschler and Shields, 1996, 1997a, 1997b). Given the complexity of

> the chemical reactions that occur, additional research is needed to

> more completely understand the complex interactions of indoor

> chemicals in the presence of ozone.

>

> Third, ozone does not remove particles (e.g., dust and pollen) from

> the air, including the particles that cause most allergies. However,

> some ozone generators are manufactured with an " ion generator "

> or " ionizer " in the same unit. An ionizer is a device that disperses

> negatively (and/or positively) charged ions into the air. These ions

> attach to particles in the air giving them a negative (or positive)

> charge so that the particles may attach to nearby surfaces such as

> walls or furniture, or attach to one another and settle out of the

> air. In recent experiments, ionizers were found to be less effective

> in removing particles of dust, tobacco smoke, pollen or fungal spores

> than either high efficiency particle filters or electrostatic

> precipitators. (Shaughnessy et al., 1994; Pierce, et al., 1996).

> However, it is apparent from other experiments that the effectiveness

> of particle air cleaners, including electrostatic precipitators, ion

> generators, or pleated filters varies widely (U.S. EPA, 1995).

> There is evidence to show that at concentrations that do not exceed

> public health standards, ozone is not effective at removing many odor-

> causing chemicals.

>

> In an experiment designed to produce formaldehyde concentrations

> representative of an embalming studio, where formaldehyde is the main

> odor producer, ozone showed no effect in reducing formaldehyde

> concentration (Esswein and Boeniger, 1994). Other experiments suggest

> that body odor may be masked by the smell of ozone but is not removed

> by ozone (Witheridge and Yaglou, 1939). Ozone is not considered useful

> for odor removal in building ventilation systems (ASHRAE, 1989).

>

> While there are few scientific studies to support the claim that ozone

> effectively removes odors, it is plausible that some odorous chemicals

> will react with ozone. For example, in some experiments, ozone

> appeared to react readily with certain chemicals, including some

> chemicals that contribute to the smell of new carpet (Weschler, 1992b;

> Zhang and Lioy, 1994). Ozone is also believed to react with acrolein,

> one of the many odorous and irritating chemicals found in secondhand

> tobacco smoke (US EPA, 1995).

> If used at concentrations that do not exceed public health standards,

> ozone applied to indoor air does not effectively remove viruses,

> bacteria, mold, or other biological pollutants.

>

> Some data suggest that low levels of ozone may reduce airborne

> concentrations and inhibit the growth of some biological organisms

> while ozone is present, but ozone concentrations would have to be 5 -

> 10 times higher than public health standards allow before the ozone

> could decontaminate the air sufficiently to prevent survival and

> regeneration of the organisms once the ozone is removed (Dyas, et

> al.,1983; Foarde et al., 1997).

>

>

> Even at high concentrations, ozone may have no effect on biological

> contaminants embedded in porous material such as duct lining or

> ceiling tiles (Foarde et al, 1997). In other words, ozone produced by

> ozone generators may inhibit the growth of some biological agents

> while it is present, but it is unlikely to fully decontaminate the air

> unless concentrations are high enough to be a health concern if people

> are present. Even with high levels of ozone, contaminants embedded in

> porous material may not be affected at all.

>

>

> If I Follow Manufacturers' Directions, Can I be Harmed?

> Results of some controlled studies show that concentrations of ozone

> considerably higher than these standards are possible even when a user

> follows the manufacturer's operating instructions.

>

> There are many brands and models of ozone generators on the market.

> They vary in the amount of ozone they can produce. In many

> circumstances, the use of an ozone generator may not result in ozone

> concentrations that exceed public health standards. But many factors

> affect the indoor concentration of ozone so that under some conditions

> ozone concentrations may exceed public health standards.

>

> In one study (Shaughnessy and Oatman, 1991), a large ozone generator

> recommended by the manufacturer for spaces " up to 3,000 square feet, "

> was placed in a 350 square foot room and run at a high setting. The

> ozone in the room quickly reached concentrations that were

> exceptionally high--0.50 to 0.80 ppm which is 5-10 times higher than

> public health limits (see Table 1).

>

> In an EPA study, several different devices were placed in a home

> environment, in various rooms, with doors alternately opened and

> closed, and with the central ventilation system fan alternately turned

> on and off. The results showed that some ozone generators, when run at

> a high setting with interior doors closed, would frequently produce

> concentrations of 0.20 - 0.30 ppm. A powerful unit set on high with

> the interior doors opened achieved values of 0.12 to 0.20 ppm in

> adjacent rooms. When units were not run on high, and interior doors

> were open, concentrations generally did not exceed public health

> standards (US EPA, 1995).

>

>

> The concentrations reported above were adjusted to exclude that

> portion of the ozone concentration brought in from the outdoors.

> Indoor concentrations of ozone brought in from outside are typically

> 0.01- 0.02 ppm, but could be as high as 0.03 - 0.05 ppm (, 1991;

> U.S. EPA, 1996b; Weschler et al., 1989, 1996; Zhang and Lioy; 1994).

> If the outdoor portion of ozone were included in the indoor

> concentrations reported above, the concentrations inside would have

> been correspondingly higher, increasing the risk of excessive ozone

> exposure.

>

> None of the studies reported above involved the simultaneous use of

> more than one device. The simultaneous use of multiple devices

> increases the total ozone output and therefore greatly increases the

> risk of excessive ozone exposure.

>

>

> Why is it Difficult to Control Ozone Exposure with an Ozone Generator?

> The actual concentration of ozone produced by an ozone generator

> depends on many factors. Concentrations will be higher if a more

> powerful device or more than one device is used, if a device is placed

> in a small space rather than a large space, if interior doors are

> closed rather than open and, if the room has fewer rather than more

> materials and furnishings that adsorb or react with ozone and,

> provided that outdoor concentrations of ozone are low, if there is

> less rather than more outdoor air ventilation.

>

> The proximity of a person to the ozone generating device can also

> affect one's exposure. The concentration is highest at the point where

> the ozone exits from the device, and generally decreases as one moves

> further away.

>

> Manufacturers and vendors advise users to size the device properly to

> the space or spaces in which it is used. Unfortunately, some

> manufacturers' recommendations about appropriate sizes for particular

> spaces have not been sufficiently precise to guarantee that ozone

> concentrations will not exceed public health limits. Further, some

> literature distributed by vendors suggests that users err on the side

> of operating a more powerful machine than would normally be

> appropriate for the intended space, the rationale being that the user

> may move in the future, or may want to use the machine in a larger

> space later on. Using a more powerful machine increases the risk of

> excessive ozone exposure.

>

> Ozone generators typically provide a control setting by which the

> ozone output can be adjusted. The ozone output of these devices is

> usually not proportional to the control setting. That is, a setting at

> medium does not necessarily generate an ozone level that is halfway

> between the levels at low and high. The relationship between the

> control setting and the output varies considerably among devices,

> although most appear to elevate the ozone output much more than one

> would expect as the control setting is increased from low to high. In

> experiments to date, the high setting in some devices generated 10

> times the level obtained at the medium setting (US EPA, 1995).

> Manufacturer's instructions on some devices link the control setting

> to room size and thus indicate what setting is appropriate for

> different room sizes. However, room size is only one factor affecting

> ozone levels in the room.

>

> In addition to adjusting the control setting to the size of the room,

> users have sometimes been advised to lower the ozone setting if they

> can smell the ozone. Unfortunately, the ability to detect ozone by

> smell varies considerably from person to person, and one's ability to

> smell ozone rapidly deteriorates in the presence of ozone. While the

> smell of ozone may indicate that the concentration is too high, lack

> of odor does not guarantee that levels are safe.

>

> At least one manufacturer is offering units with an ozone sensor that

> turns the ozone generator on and off with the intent of maintaining

> ozone concentrations in the space below health standards. EPA is

> currently evaluating the effectiveness and reliability of these

> sensors, and plans to conduct further research to improve society's

> understanding of ozone chemistry indoors. EPA will report its findings

> as the results of this research become available.

>

>

>

> Can Ozone be Used in Unoccupied Spaces?

> Ozone has been extensively used for water purification, but ozone

> chemistry in water is not the same as ozone chemistry in air. High

> concentrations of ozone in air, when people are not present, are

> sometimes used to help decontaminate an unoccupied space from certain

> chemical or biological contaminants or odors (e.g., fire restoration).

> However, little is known about the chemical by-products left behind by

> these processes (Dunston and Spivak, 1997). While high concentrations

> of ozone in air may sometimes be appropriate in these circumstances,

> conditions should be sufficiently controlled to insure that no person

> or pet becomes exposed. Ozone can adversely affect indoor plants, and

> damage materials such as rubber, electrical wire coatings, and fabrics

> and art work containing susceptible dyes and pigments (U.S. EPA,

> 1996a).

>

>

>

> What Other Methods Can Be Used to Control Indoor Air Pollution?

> The three most common approaches to reducing indoor air pollution, in

> order of effectiveness, are:

>

> Source Control: Eliminate or control the sources of pollution;

> Ventilation: Dilute and exhaust pollutants through outdoor air

> ventilation, and

> Air Cleaning: Remove pollutants through proven air cleaning methods.

> Of the three, the first approach -- source control -- is the most

> effective. This involves minimizing the use of products and materials

> that cause indoor pollution, employing good hygiene practices to

> minimize biological contaminants (including the control of humidity

> and moisture, and occasional cleaning and disinfection of wet or moist

> surfaces), and using good housekeeping practices to control particles.

>

> The second approach -- outdoor air ventilation -- is also effective

> and commonly employed. Ventilation methods include installing an

> exhaust fan close to the source of contaminants, increasing outdoor

> air flows in mechanical ventilation systems, and opening windows,

> especially when pollutant sources are in use.

>

> The third approach -- air cleaning -- is not generally regarded as

> sufficient in itself, but is sometimes used to supplement source

> control and ventilation. Air filters, electronic particle air cleaners

> and ionizers are often used to remove airborne particles, and gas

> adsorbing material is sometimes used to remove gaseous contaminants

> when source control and ventilation are inadequate.

>

> See Additional Resources section below for more detailed information

> about these methods.

>

>

>

> Conclusions

> Whether in its pure form or mixed with other chemicals, ozone can be

> harmful to health.

>

> When inhaled, ozone can damage the lungs. Relatively low amounts of

> ozone can cause chest pain, coughing, shortness of breath and, throat

> irritation. It may also worsen chronic respiratory diseases such as

> asthma as well as compromise the ability of the body to fight

> respiratory infections.

>

> Some studies show that ozone concentrations produced by ozone

> generators can exceed health standards even when one follows

> manufacturer's instructions.

>

> Many factors affect ozone concentrations including the amount of ozone

> produced by the machine(s), the size of the indoor space, the amount

> of material in the room with which ozone reacts, the outdoor ozone

> concentration, and the amount of ventilation. These factors make it

> difficult to control the ozone concentration in all circumstances.

>

> Available scientific evidence shows that, at concentrations that do

> not exceed public health standards, ozone is generally ineffective in

> controlling indoor air pollution.

>

> The concentration of ozone would have to greatly exceed health

> standards to be effective in removing most indoor air contaminants. In

> the process of reacting with chemicals indoors, ozone can produce

> other chemicals that themselves can be irritating and corrosive.

>

>

>

> Recommendation

> The public is advised to use proven methods of controlling indoor air

> pollution. These methods include eliminating or controlling pollutant

> sources, increasing outdoor air ventilation, and using proven methods

> of air cleaning.

>

>

>

> Additional Resources

> Publications:

>

> Copies of EPA's publications are available from the National Service

> Center for Environmental Publications (NSCEP)

> http://www.epa.gov/ncepihom/ (to order EPA documents online). Use the

> EPA Document Number when ordering. Or call 1-800-490-9198/(513) 489-

> 8695 (fax), or write to:

> U.S. Environmental Protection Agency

> National Center for Environmental Publications (NSCEP)

> P.O. Box 42419

> Cincinnati, OH 45242

>

> The Inside Story: A Guide to Indoor Air Quality, EPA Document Number

> EPA 402-K-93-007. U.S. EPA, U.S. CPSC. April 1995.

>

> Indoor Air Facts No. 7.- Residential Air Cleaners, EPA Document Number

> EPA 20A-4-001. U.S. EPA. February 1990.

>

> Residential Air Cleaning Devices: A Summary of Available Information,

> EPA Document Number EPA 402-K-96-001. U.S. EPA.

>

> Indoor Air Pollution: An Introduction for Health Professionals, EPA

> Document Number EPA 402-R-94-007. American Lung Association, EPA,

> CPSC, American Medical Association.

>

> Advisory:

>

> " Health Canada Advises the Public About Air Cleaners Designed to

> Intentionally Generate Ozone (Ozone Generators) " , Health Canada,

> Canada 1999-19, February 5, 1999.

>

> Information Sources:

>

> U.S. EPA's Indoor Air Quality Information Clearinghouse (IAQ INFO), PO

> Box 37133, Washington D.C. 20013-7133; by phone (800) 438-4318.

>

> California Department of Health Services, Indoor Air Quality Section,

> Environmental Health Laboratory, 2151 Berkeley Way, Berkeley, CA

> 94704; 510-540-3022.

>

> Federal Trade Commission , Consumer Response Center, (202) 326-3128.

>

> U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, Washington D.C. 20207; or

> call Consumer Hotline, English/Spanish: (800) 638-2772, Hearing/Speech

> Impaired: (800) 6388270.

>

> The Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers (AHAM) has developed

> an American National Standards Institute (ANSI)-approved standard for

> portable air cleaners (ANSI/AHAM Standard AC-1-1988). This standard

> may be useful in estimating the effectiveness of portable air

> cleaners. Under this standard, room air cleaner effectiveness is rated

> by a clean air delivery rate (CADR) for each of three particle types

> in indoor air: tobacco smoke, dust, and pollen.

>

> Only a limited number of air cleaners have been certified under this

> program at the present time. A complete listing of all current AHAM-

> certified room air cleaners and their CADRs can be obtained from CADR

>

> Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers (AHAM)

> 1111 19th Street, NW, Suite 402

> Washington, DC 20036

> (202) 872-5955

>

> AHAM also provides information on air cleaners on their AHAM-certified

> Clean Air Delivery Rate site at www.cadr.org

>

> American Lung Association Fact Sheet - Air Cleaining Devices: Types

> of Air Cleaning Processes

>

>

>

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> Weschler, J.; Brauer, ; and Koutrakis, Petros. 1992a.

> Indoor Ozone and Nitrogen Dioxide: A Potential Pathway to the

> Generation of Nitrate Radicals, Dinitrogen Pentaoxide, and Nitric Acid

> Indoors. Environmental Science and Technology. 26(1):179-184.

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> Weschler, J.; Hodgson Alfred T.; and Wooley, D. 1992b.

> Indoor Chemistry: Ozone, Volatile Organic Compounds, and Carpets.

> Environmental Science and Technology. 26(12):2371-2377.

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> Weschler, J; Shields, Helen C. 1997a. Measurements of the

> Hydroxyl Radical in a Manipulated but Realistic Indoor Environment.

> Environmental Science and Technology. 31(12):3719-3722.

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> Weschler, J; Shields, Helen C. 1997b. Potential Reactions

> Among Indoor Pollutants. Atmospheric Environment. 31(21):3487-3495.

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> Weschler, J; and Shields, Helen C. 1996. Production of the

> Hydroxyl Radical in Indoor Air. Environmental Science and Technology.

> 30(11):3250-3268.

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> Weschler, J.; Shields, Helen, C.; and Naik, Datta V. 1989.

> Indoor Ozone Exposures. JAPCA Journal. 39(12):1562-1568.

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> Weschler, J.; Shields, Helen, C.; and Naik, Datta V. 1996. The

> Factors Influencing Indoor Ozone Levels at a Commercial Building in

> Southern California: More that a Year of Continuous Observations.

> Tropospheric Ozone. Air and Waste Management Association. Pittsburgh.

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> Witheridge, N. And Yaglou, Constantin P. 1939. Ozone in

> Ventilation--Its possibilities and Limitations. ASHRAE Transactions.

> 45: 509-522.

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> Zhang, Junfeng and Lioy, J. 1994. Ozone in Residential Air:

> Concentrations, I/O Ratios, Indoor Chemistry, and Exposures. Indoor

> Air. Journal of the International Society of Indoor Air Quality and

> Climate. 4:95-102. "

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> The following excerpt is from the American Lung Association:

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> http://www.lungusa.org/press/envir/asnairc.html

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> http://www.lungusa.org/bin/search/searchit.pl?

> query=Air+Cleaners & ichoice=index.swish-

> e & ixname=.swish & results=0 & search.x=9 & search.y=9

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> OZONE PRODUCTION

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> Some air cleaners (called ozone generators) use an electrical charge

> to generate ozone. Although ozone (also referred to as trivalent

> oxygen or saturated oxygen) is a necessary part of the upper

> atmosphere (10-30 miles above us), in the part of the atmosphere we

> breathe, ozone is a potent lung irritant. It can have damaging health

> effects, especially for persons with asthma and other lung diseases,

> children and the elderly. It is produced directly by ozone generators

> and indirectly by ion generators and some other electronic air

> cleaners. The FDA has set a limit of 0.05 parts per million of ozone

> in indoor air. Ask whether any electronic air cleaner you are

> considering buying has been tested for ozone production. The American

> Lung Association suggests that ozone generators not be used.

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ionic breeze emits a SMALL amount according to the manufacturer.

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Barbara wrote:

> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:06:56 -0700 (PDT)

> From: Barbara <floridabound03200@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: Re: [] Ozone- Here we go again.

>

> KC

> If an Ozone air cleaner is anything like an Ionic air

> cleaner, I don't want anything to do with it. Last

> year, after I had an Ionic air cleaner in my apt. for

> one hour - only one hour, I had such a difficult time

> breathing, that I was afraid I would end up having to

> go to the Emergency Room.

> Barb E.

>

> --- tigerpaw2c <tigerpaw2C@...> wrote:

>

> > KL & Group,

> >

> > The research is NOT there for or against, in my

> > opinion. From the

> > research that I have read, I am not willing to take

> > the chance of

> > harming myself or anyone else by using an ozone air

> > purifier that

> > could cause permanent lung damage or irritate the

> > respiratory track.

> >

> > There are professionals on this board that I hope

> > will chime in AGAIN,

> > responding to the ozone issue. KL, I would recommend

> > you take some of

> > these exact questions of yours and experience with

> > the ozone machine

> > to the professional board, IEQ. Just to see what

> > their response would

> > be. I will be watching for your post and their

> > responses.I will post

> > the link below. I really wish it were that simple

> > that one machine is

> > a cure all. I also have been made aware that ozone

> > may even stimulate

> > mold growth and or cause it to release its

> > mycotoxins.

> >

> > Also Ken, you are doing your best to promote the use

> > of ozone and how

> > good and safe it is to members on this board. Why

> > won't you post some

> > of this exact information on the professional board?

> > Until more

> > research is there (and not just done by the company

> > promoting it)

> > either fore or against, I am not willing to promote

> > any product that

> > does not have a proven track record. I could not

> > live with myself if I

> > caused someone further damage to their health. Could

> > you? I don't mean

> > to make it sound like I am attacking you personally

> > Ken, it's the

> > product I have a problem with and would have with

> > anyone promoting it.

> > I have been dealing with the mold issue for many,

> > many years and this

> > is not the first time that the subject and/or use of

> > ozone has come

> > up. So I am still looking for that silver bullet

> > also. And yes, I have

> > been in an office that used an ozone machine and it

> > did irritate my

> > wife (who is the one that is ill) and myself and we

> > couldn't wait to

> > get out of there. The doctor didn't realize and

> > apologized later and

> > tossed it into the garbage once he read the

> > information about it use.

> >

> > I will post some links below and also some previous

> > discussions.

> > Anyone using an ozone generator should be very

> > cautious.

> >

> > KC

> >

> > The IEQ discussion group has been established to

> > provide a forum for

> > IEQ professionals to openly discuss issues. These

> > issues include

> > indoor environmental health, IAQ consulting,

> > toxicology, HVAC

> > engineering, industrial hygiene, risk management,

> > restoration and

> > remediation, insurance coverage, legal issues,

> > medical issues and

> > more.

> > iequality/

> >

> > From: " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...>

> > Date: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:29 pm

> > Subject: Re: []^ Ozone educational web

> > sites

> >

> > Ken,

> >

> > This is my last comment on this ozone discussion:

> > Ozone is not

> > enriched oxygen. Ozone is a pollutant. The two have

> > different

> > properties.

> >

> > Carl Grimes

> > Healthy Habitats LLC

> >

> > From: RLLIPSEY87@...

> > Date: Wed May 28, 2003 8:53 am

> > Subject: Re: [] Digest Number 1636

> >

> >

> >

> > Ozone is a toxic chemical whether it is produced

> > naturally in a

> > thunderstorm or

> > produced by ozonators or " air purifiers " (or sold by

> > any other name) .

> >

> > Ozone is an OSHA regulated toxic chemical which

> > is 500 times more

> > toxic than carbon monoxide (CO) that kills hundreds

> > of people each

> > year. The federal air standard for ozone is only 0.1

> > ppm while it is

> > 50 ppm for CO. Ozone attacks mucous membranes, ie

> > the lungs, and

> > causes chronic respiratory disease.

> >

> > NIOSH has published that ozone is not very

> > effective in killing

> > mold or bacteria. Ozone is not " controversial " . It

> > is toxic and

> > dangerous and not effective in controlling mold or

> > bacteria and should

> > never be used in a room with people present, even to

> > remove odors ie

> > smoke damage odors.

> >

> >

> > Dr. L. Lipsey

> > Professor and Toxicologist

> > University of North Florida,

> > ---OSHA HazMat Cert.

> > U. of Florida Med. Ctr, Jax

> > Poison Control Center Board

> > CV--Toxicology And Environmental Health Assoc

> >

> >

> > From: Joe Klein <epistrophy1@...>

> > Date: Sun Jun 1, 2003 4:45 pm

> > Subject: Re: [] criticism of recent

> > comments on ozone

> >

> >

> >

> > I am concerned that that some of our visitors may be

> > mislead or

> > misinformed concerning ozone.

> >

> > Fact: Ozone can have damaging health effects,

> > especially for persons

> > with asthma and other lung diseases, children and

> > the elderly.

> >

> > Fact: Ozone generators are NOT recommended by the

> > American Lung

> > Association:

> >

> > Fact: Much of the material regarding ozone

> > generators makes claims or

> > draws conclusions without substantiation and sound

> > science.

> >

> > Fact: EPA does not certify air cleaning devices.

> >

> > Fact: " Relatively low amounts(of ozone)can cause

> > chest pain, coughing,

> > shortness of breath, and, throat irritation. Ozone

> > may also worsen

> > chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma and

> > compromise the ability

> > of the body to fight respiratory infections. "

> >

> > Fact: " People vary widely in their susceptibility

> > to ozone. Healthy

> > people, as well as those with respiratory

> > difficulty, can experience

> > breathing problems when exposed to ozone. Exercise

> > during exposure to

> > ozone causes a greater amount of ozone to be

> > inhaled, and increases

> > the risk of harmful respiratory effects. Recovery

> > from the harmful

> > effects can occur following short-term exposure to

> > low levels of

> > ozone, but health effects may become more damaging

> > and recovery less

> > certain at higher levels or from longer exposures

> > (US EPA, 1996a,

> > 1996b). "

> >

> > Fact: Exposure to ozone can cause:

> >

> > 1. Decreases in lung function

> > 2. Aggravation of asthma

> > 3. Throat irritation and cough

> > 4. Chest pain and shortness of breath

> > 5. Inflammation of lung tissue

> > 6. Higher susceptibility to respiratory infection

> >

> >

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> KL & Group,

Thank you very much for the extensive information about the hazards of many of

the

ozone machines and of the ozone molecule itself. I was aware of some of this

information,

but I also am aware that the EPA is not the be all and end all of answers about

public

health. Some of their policies are incorrect, but I am not aware of many that

are. However,

I don't pay that much attention, since my health has been so bad for so long,

ly, I

don't have enough energy.

After having many so called medical experts have no idea for so many years what

was

wrong with me, and finally being called a hypochondriac, I am just going to do

what I think

is best, based on my own judgement, taking into account all information I have

been able

to look at. I have a BS in Geology, and am quite able to make informed, rational

decisions

on my own. Something most of the doctors I have consulted don't seem to

understand.

The reason I posted about this topic is that I am having some success with this

machine. It

is neutralizing some of the allergens in my home. I have asthma, have had it all

my life,

and this is not causing any problems with my lungs. It is not the same machine,

it does

not emit nitrous compounds that irritate the lungs. I suppose some other

compound

could, as a byproduct of the chemical oxidations, but I am not experiencing

that.

I am only posting about my own experience with this machine, and did not expect

to be

slammed for expressing MY OPINIONS AND EXPERIENCES.

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KL,

I'm very sorry that you feel you are being slammed and it is not

really you per se, it's these products, the sales personnel and alot

of misinformation that has been given out. I guess some of us may

have come across the wrong way, because we feel so strongly

concerning the ozone machines. We have had and still do have some

people on this board, who read but no longer post, who have had

permanent lung damage from ozone. We are just more concerned about

you and your health. We don't want you to hurt yourself along the

way of trying to recover. I just don't take the word of the EPA, I

have spoken to many scientists, researchers, microbiologist,

toxicologist who have studied and/or worked with these machines for

many, many years. I take into a count what their expert advice and

opinion are. One of them is Dr.Eugene Cole, professior at Brigham

Young University and an advisor to The World Health Organization.

(WHO)

I am not doubting your intelligence or lack of making correct

decisions, I'm just a person that gets very concerned for others

health. I think we have dealt with enough to add more problems to

our already fragile health.

We care,

KC

> > KL & Group,

>

> Thank you very much for the extensive information about the

hazards of many of the

> ozone machines and of the ozone molecule itself. I was aware of

some of this information,

> but I also am aware that the EPA is not the be all and end all of

answers about public

> health. Some of their policies are incorrect, but I am not aware

of many that are. However,

> I don't pay that much attention, since my health has been so bad

for so long, ly, I

> don't have enough energy.

>

> After having many so called medical experts have no idea for so

many years what was

> wrong with me, and finally being called a hypochondriac, I am just

going to do what I think

> is best, based on my own judgement, taking into account all

information I have been able

> to look at. I have a BS in Geology, and am quite able to make

informed, rational decisions

> on my own. Something most of the doctors I have consulted don't

seem to understand.

>

> The reason I posted about this topic is that I am having some

success with this machine. It

> is neutralizing some of the allergens in my home. I have asthma,

have had it all my life,

> and this is not causing any problems with my lungs. It is not the

same machine, it does

> not emit nitrous compounds that irritate the lungs. I suppose some

other compound

> could, as a byproduct of the chemical oxidations, but I am not

experiencing that.

>

> I am only posting about my own experience with this machine, and

did not expect to be

> slammed for expressing MY OPINIONS AND EXPERIENCES.

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KC,

Impressive documentation! Best I've seen. Consider the sources you

cite vs citations on product Web sites, many of which may have a

financial interest in the product.

We must all be careful to separate what we want and desperately hope

for from what is true. Beware of promises of the " magic bullet. " The

only magic is how fast your money flows from your bank account into

theirs. Remember the expression, " laughing all the way to the bank? "

That usually means someone is left crying. The sad part is that the

perveyors of " magic bullets " honestly believe in what they promote,

usually to the point of dismissing any information to the contrary.

Ask them not only what to expect that their product will do, but also

what to expect it won't do. If you decide to try a product, make sure

they have an unconditonal money-back guarantee so you don't end up

with a house full of gadgets, either harmful or useless.

The additional difficulty is that very little works the same for most

of us. The only reliable action I've seen and experienced in my 18

years is to stop the exposure by removing the source or by removing

yourself from the source. The most effective treatment l've seen for

the most people is by Ritchie Shoemaker.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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Do a web search on Mark Boeniger.....his study is the end all of 03

studies.

Also, read up on the trigeminal nerve and how 03 effects it.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, kl_clayton wrote:

> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 04:09:09 -0000

> From: kl_clayton <kl_clayton@...>

> Reply-

>

> Subject: [] Re: Ozone- Here we go again.

>

>

> > KL & Group,

>

> Thank you very much for the extensive information about the hazards of

> many of the

> ozone machines and of the ozone molecule itself. I was aware of some of

> this information,

> but I also am aware that the EPA is not the be all and end all of answers

> about public

> health. Some of their policies are incorrect, but I am not aware of many

> that are. However,

> I don't pay that much attention, since my health has been so bad for so

> long, ly, I

> don't have enough energy.

>

> After having many so called medical experts have no idea for so many

> years what was

> wrong with me, and finally being called a hypochondriac, I am just going

> to do what I think

> is best, based on my own judgement, taking into account all information I

> have been able

> to look at. I have a BS in Geology, and am quite able to make informed,

> rational decisions

> on my own. Something most of the doctors I have consulted don't seem to

> understand.

>

> The reason I posted about this topic is that I am having some success

> with this machine. It

> is neutralizing some of the allergens in my home. I have asthma, have had

> it all my life,

> and this is not causing any problems with my lungs. It is not the same

> machine, it does

> not emit nitrous compounds that irritate the lungs. I suppose some other

> compound

> could, as a byproduct of the chemical oxidations, but I am not

> experiencing that.

>

> I am only posting about my own experience with this machine, and did not

> expect to be

> slammed for expressing MY OPINIONS AND EXPERIENCES.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> I am not doubting your intelligence or lack of making correct

> decisions, I'm just a person that gets very concerned for others

> health. I think we have dealt with enough to add more problems to

> our already fragile health.

>

> We care,> KC

KC, very well said. Personally I wasn't slamming anyone; only wanted to

further open the discussion to look at all the pros and cons of ozone.

Isn't that the purpose of this group; to research and brainstorm without

causing hard feelings of what is safest for us, our buildings and

environment?

I cannot tolerate ozone. Right now we have an ozone warning issued by the

local weather stations for all who have respiratory problems to try to stay

inside as much as possible. I cannot go into a Sharper Image Store for more

than a few minutes before reacting to all the ozone generated by their

machines. I have tried ionizers which same ill-effect.

When my house was damaged from a major storm 4 years ago and we did have

mold I discussed with some very knowledgeable contractors if renting and

using a powerful ozone generator would be appropriate. They also cited the

EPA warnings and indicated unless we are willing to move out of the home,

move all the plants and electrical products with wires then no we shouldn't.

In order for the ozone machines to actually kill mold it must be very

powerful and will have negative effects on plants and wiring plus the added

cost of clean-up from the resulting chemical reaction. Sigh, I was

disappointed thinking I had a quick fix for my problems.

Remember also we all react differently to any and all substances; some are

more reactive than others. I'm like the canary in the coal mine; can detect

dangerous odors before anyone else and my nose and body are always right.

Bottom line; no one was slamming you; only wanting to open the discussion

for further research for the benefit of the ENTIRE group.

Rosie

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> We must all be careful to separate what we want and desperately hope

> for from what is true. Beware of promises of the " magic bullet. " The

> only magic is how fast your money flows from your bank account into

> theirs. Remember the expression, " laughing all the way to the bank? "

> That usually means someone is left crying. The sad part is that the

> perveyors of " magic bullets " honestly believe in what they promote,

> usually to the point of dismissing any information to the contrary. "

Carl, bravo. I'm a clinical herbalist and have warned so many who are

desperate not to try the latest hype products for their condition because of

claims and testimonies. We must research, ask questions, determine if the

products are safe for us, our homes and our environments rather than looking

for a magic bullet as you said. Too often we are so desperate we are

willing to risk our health for a quick fix. How often do I hear and read we

all need to detox? It's not safe; first we prepare the body for the detox

and while using appropriate and well made herbals we must help the body to

eliminate the toxics. I still hear of herbalists laughing when their

clients complain of detox side effects; these herbalists are ignorant and

hurting their clients yet they convince the clients they must suffer through

these detox symptoms because that's a good sign. grrrrrrrrrrrr.

Rosie

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