Guest guest Posted June 15, 2005 Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 Dear Group, I have some thoughts I would like to share about an air cleaner I got on the advice of the allergist. He told me to get an ozone air cleaner and put it in the basement, because it kills mold, and I still have some there. So, after extensive research (online) I decided to get an Aronizer brand, as the company does lots of research (I like that), among other things, like it is supposed to be easier on the lungs than other brands. It is also much cheaper, at least the one I found online. I dutifully put it in the basement, and over some days, it really did improve the air down there. The cool part is this: The upstairs bath is where we had a horrible problem with mold, and we tore everything out and remodeled it last fall. On Monday, the tub was completely plugged up, and since I was feeling good, I thought I would take the drain apart. So I opened the access door to the plumbing behind the shower, sat down, and proceeded to have a reaction to the residual mold that was left over under the tub. Nothing growing, just must have been some spores from before. Of course, I got up and left the room, shutting the door. Then I decided to put the machine in there for a couple of hours and see what happened. So, I left the access door panel off, put the machine in the opening, turned it on full blast, shut the room up, and left. After a couple of hours, I went in and opened it all up to the fresh air- window open and fan on, aired it out for 20 minutes or so, and tried again. YAY! I fixed the drain and had no problem with my allergy! This machine does not just clean the air, it seems to act as a portable decontamination unit. I thought this was so significant, I wanted to share this with you. My allergy was anaphylactic, and I have been under treatment (which is working) to reduce my levels of reaction. If anyone else has had anything like this, I would be interested in hearing about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 The research is very clear that ozone kills mold. No, he doesn't sell anything. There is some information suggesting that the irritation is from nitrous oxides produced by some brands as a by product. Anyway, my doctor said to put it in the basement, turn it on, and Leave. He did not want me around it, but it kills mold. What is not clear to me, maybe the research hasn't been done yet, or I haven't found it, but how much does it decontaminate the other VOC's mold produces. I am conducting my own experiments at home, and only have found out as much as I stated before. However, it really does kill odors, whch can be produced by VOC's, and I don't know what all. The company says it also kills bacteria and viruses. For mold killing a much higher concentration machine is needed than for just deodorizing or killing bacteria and viruses. > > A DOCTOR IS RECOMMENDING OZONE? IS HE SELLING THEM? NO DOCTOR IN HIS > RIGHT MIND WOULD PROMOTE SOMETHING THAT IS A CONFIRMED RESPIRATORY > IRRITANT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Kills mold? Or is it anesthtizing (sp) your trigeminal nerve and intercepting the signal? On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, kl_clayton wrote: > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:08:19 -0000 > From: kl_clayton <kl_clayton@...> > Reply- > > Subject: [] Re: air cleaner > > The research is very clear that ozone kills mold. No, he doesn't sell > anything. There is > some information suggesting that the irritation is from nitrous oxides > produced by some > brands as a by product. Anyway, my doctor said to put it in the basement, > turn it on, and > Leave. He did not want me around it, but it kills mold. > > What is not clear to me, maybe the research hasn't been done yet, or I > haven't found it, but > how much does it decontaminate the other VOC's mold produces. I am > conducting my own > experiments at home, and only have found out as much as I stated before. > However, it > really does kill odors, whch can be produced by VOC's, and I don't know > what all. The > company says it also kills bacteria and viruses. For mold killing a much > higher > concentration machine is needed than for just deodorizing or killing > bacteria and viruses. > > > > > > > A DOCTOR IS RECOMMENDING OZONE? IS HE SELLING THEM? NO DOCTOR IN HIS > > RIGHT MIND WOULD PROMOTE SOMETHING THAT IS A CONFIRMED RESPIRATORY > > IRRITANT. > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 > The above are from: http://www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html > > What concerns me is the statement " some of the potential by-products > produced by ozone's reactions with other chemicals are themselves very > reaction and capable...... " > > Rosie > I put it in my car this am to get rid of some odors. I had it on high for 2 hours, then aired it out for 15 minutes before driving. 20 minutes of airing was reccommended as a general rule before going in an area that had been cleaned in that way. Well, it took alot longer than 20 minutes to get the ozone, etc smell out, it must have been some other byproducts of the oxidation process, and I did have some allergy trouble (not involving my lungs). After all my errands (hours later) I noticed the smell gone, and I hope that's the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 KL, In addtion to what the others have eloquently stated, dead mold won't infect, the least of our concerns, but is still AT LEAST allergenic and an irritant. Mold growth and accumulated mold spores & fragments still need to be removed whether it is dead or alive. Advocating ubiquitous ozone is akin to prescribing prophylactic chemotherapy. Another reason you were slammed is we have all been through this ozone controversy so many times we (wearily!) know it takes a strong response to either educate or to stop the ignorance, innocent or intentional, from those that insist ozone is the answer. They never take " no " for an answer but keep insisting they are the scientific second-coming of environmental exposure salvation. Their persistent e- mails are worse than the anonymous spam that fills our in-boxes to overflowing. I hope this helps to understand what happened to you. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > > The research is very clear that ozone kills mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Carl, There is no such thing as dead mold! If the spores exsist, when the conditions are right for it to grow, such as Stachybotrys, it will come back. If the spores are still present, they are still a concern and should be to everyone. Marcie " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote: KL, In addtion to what the others have eloquently stated, dead mold won't infect, the least of our concerns, but is still AT LEAST allergenic and an irritant. Mold growth and accumulated mold spores & fragments still need to be removed whether it is dead or alive. Advocating ubiquitous ozone is akin to prescribing prophylactic chemotherapy. Another reason you were slammed is we have all been through this ozone controversy so many times we (wearily!) know it takes a strong response to either educate or to stop the ignorance, innocent or intentional, from those that insist ozone is the answer. They never take " no " for an answer but keep insisting they are the scientific second-coming of environmental exposure salvation. Their persistent e- mails are worse than the anonymous spam that fills our in-boxes to overflowing. I hope this helps to understand what happened to you. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > > The research is very clear that ozone kills mold. FAIR USE NOTICE: --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 I have one in each room. It has a hepa filter . Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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