Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 That covers the point nicely, . My point was merely that ALL toxin-producing mold comes from " outside " , one way or another. When you are outside, you can escape. When you are inside with it, you are stuck. There are areas near here where there's mold all over the place - usually near the creeks and streams. Some times of the year, such as when it rains and the temperature remains high, I could not (and will not) stay in those areas, which are usually near a stream bottom or sinkhole where the water tends to stand. But they level the ground anyway, throw in a sump pump, and build all over it. [the obvious biblical reference about building on rock appears to apply here?] People talk about their sumps going out as if they'd burned out a lightbulb. They typically have their water heaters and HVACS units located in the basement where the sump is. It might be put up on blocks, but the air intake is still sucking in whatever is floating around down there in the basement and delivering it to the living areas. They think this is all perfectly normal, and it completely does not phase them that basically the only thing between them and living in an indoor swamp full time is a little electric motor that quits every so often. But that is a regional practice. So, I'm not arguing what you say. It's just that the main source of indoor spores is still the drywall, which isn't regional at all. The stuff is used virtually everywhere. Serena www.freeboards.net/index.php?mforum=sickgovernmentb --------------------------------- Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 > So, I'm not arguing what you say. It's just that the main source of indoor spores is still the drywall, which isn't regional at all. The stuff is used virtually everywhere. > Serena Oh, I didn't think you were arguing with me, and certainly the drywall is the major player for most. Remember my post of a few years ago called " A Simple Experiement " in which I just collected samples and found that mold had been processed right into the backing on sheetrock? The " greenboard " was among the worst of my samples. I'm just pointing out that mold responders can burn and bulldoze their house completely out of existence and get no relief if the source isn't in their house. They can save an awful lot of effort and misery by establishing whether it is their house or their area BEFORE they sink money into another pit of despair. Did you see my post about the Pau Wa Lu school in Gardnerville? The entire neighborhood is known for symptoms which WE know to be mold illness and the doctors can't figure it out. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 , You are right again and I can remember trying that little experiment with a brand new piece of dry wall. Anyone can do it, just cut a 3 " x3 " piece out of the main board and put it in a sandwich bag with a cup of water. Your outcome will be a beautiful multicolored chi pet. Just to make your point, the spore are already there, just add water. KC > > > So, I'm not arguing what you say. It's just that the main source > of indoor spores is still the drywall, which isn't regional at all. > The stuff is used virtually everywhere. > > Serena > > Oh, I didn't think you were arguing with me, and certainly the > drywall is the major player for most. Remember my post of a few > years ago called " A Simple Experiement " in which I just collected > samples and found that mold had been processed right into the > backing on sheetrock? > The " greenboard " was among the worst of my samples. > > I'm just pointing out that mold responders can burn and bulldoze > their house completely out of existence and get no relief if the > source isn't in their house. > They can save an awful lot of effort and misery by establishing > whether it is their house or their area BEFORE they sink money into > another pit of despair. > Did you see my post about the Pau Wa Lu school in Gardnerville? > The entire neighborhood is known for symptoms which WE know to be > mold illness and the doctors can't figure it out. > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 It seems it is all about humidity and air ventilation, not flooding at all. People with high humidity less amount but still have it growing indoors, perhaps inside walls here and there. I wonder what would happen if you did experiment with drop of water instead of cup of water? I think same thing but less amount. Mold spores are everywhere so all they need is humidity. To get away from toxins, you need stale air and gas escape, ventilation. --- In , " tigerpaw2c " <tigerpaw2C@n...> wrote: > , > > You are right again and I can remember trying that little experiment > with a brand new piece of dry wall. Anyone can do it, just cut a 3 " > x3 " piece out of the main board and put it in a sandwich bag with a > cup of water. Your outcome will be a beautiful multicolored chi pet. > Just to make your point, the spore are already there, just add water. > > KC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 No, sorry, . I wasn't around when you posted that experiment. I did see something elsewhere concerning sticking new drywall in a baggie with some water and what grew in it, though. And I've seen plenty of greenboard covered with mold! About all that can be said for it is that it collapses slower and hides the problem longer. I've almost never seen a shower enclosure come out without a blackened wall behind it. All that happens is, if the bathroom is upstairs, the water slides over the surface of the greenboard, and lands on the wooden subfloor, which rots out and grows mold very nicely all by itself. There's a house downslope from me next door that flooded a couple of times this past year. It was a HUD repo. I was in it once when some realtors came by to look inside and make an estimate for repairs. The previous owners had divided the basement into many rooms (lots of extra drywall). In the room where the HVAC is, there were these huge webs of mold and the floors and walls were black with the stuff. I backed out of there in a major hurry, of course! But now it is occupied by a Korean family with two small children and a puppy. The adults don't speak English. I never saw any contractors show up at all. I'm sure they think they fixed it up themselves. Makes me sick just to think about it. The people across the street spent months clearing the trees from the empty lot adjoining theirs. A shallow stream flows straight through the middle of it, though most of it is spread out and the water table is maybe 6 inches below surface, if that? That same stream comes up in my front yard, and has dug a 10-foot deep channel where it flows. So. There's kind of a lot of water there, no? Yet they were granted a permit to build there. So go figure. I see things like that all around me. There's just no end to it. Serena www.freeboards.net/index.php?mforum=sickgovernmentb __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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